It's Official: HFT Breaks Speed-of-Light Barrier, Sets Trading Speed World Record

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Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:05 | 1688776 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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liquidity biatches!

No crime to see here.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:07 | 1688781 markmotive
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Faster than time itself? Did I read that right?

The average man is f@$!ed

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:10 | 1688797 Falcon15
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You read that right. Prepapre the market for LUDICROUS SPEED!

They've gone to PLAID!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:16 | 1688844 fuu
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We are going to need to drag out our copies of "Time Traveler's Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations "

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:23 | 1688891 slewie the pi-rat
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beam us up, tyler

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:56 | 1689010 Pladizow
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Doc Brown would be proud!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:06 | 1689050 Ahmeexnal
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back to the future.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:48 | 1688991 Drag Racer
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'pre-crime' has now officially been defined.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:01 | 1688867 Manthong
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So.. who really runs Dodge when the law is shoot first, ask questions later?

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:33 | 1688934 Johnny Yuma
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"Prepapre the market for LUDICROUS SPEED!" My brains are going into my feet! 

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:54 | 1689007 NotApplicable
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Front-running has entered a whole new dimension.

Question is, are either side of these transactions even real, or is an HFTbot trying to generate the appearance of a real market? At this point, they could be trying to replace the casino with a mere facade.

If Cramer starts getting his calls right, then it's time to get suspicious.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:38 | 1688956 bankruptcylawyer
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smokem if you got'em

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:41 | 1688972 Nascent_Variable
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Ye cannae change the laws of physics!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:50 | 1688994 newworldorder
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Karnac the maginificent has risen from the grave and is predicting answers to questions not asked.

Thu, 09/22/2011 - 16:58 | 1698863 gojam
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Business @ the Speed of Thought - Bill Gates.

Comment @ the Speed of Ignorance - gojam


Tue, 09/20/2011 - 13:00 | 1689294 New_Meat
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"Ye cannae change the laws of physics!"

It's just scientific consensus.

- Ned

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 13:26 | 1689383 Fanatic
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Laws of physics are just "tradition". :-P

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 15:03 | 1689728 Cathartes Aura
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scientific consensus.

couldn't give you a + vote "up there" New_Meat, so have one here! 

and to the consensus, I'll add "paid for" since most science is funded. . . outcome decided, ayups!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 16:14 | 1689981 The4thStooge
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It's the Large Hadron Collider. They can bend the laws of time and space to place trades in the future by observing the wave function BEFORE it collapses...

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:47 | 1688990 bankruptcylawyer
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whats' a matter colonel sanders, chicken?


Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:14 | 1689086 Bruce Flea
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Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:17 | 1688850 Translational Lift
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The vacuum tubes are not only reading the headlines but now predicting them............

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:19 | 1688866 scatterbrains
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so let me see if I got this right.. by the time my limit order goes through the HFT bots have traded, gone to lunch, came back traded some more, the closing bell rang and they all left the building and I never got filled ?


Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:30 | 1688915 Dr. Richard Head
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And you too can retire through a well-diversified 401(k) equity investment strategy.  Just shift your pre-tax DOHllars into the account, your employer will match your contributions, and you too will live in the lap of luxury during your golden years.  Buy and hold.  It's so easy a computer can do it.  HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:35 | 1688928 slewie the pi-rat
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that's the same thing that happened to me!
then i changed the limit, and it got filled..., too!

now that the SEC has gotten into studying these hi-freek algoz, anything can happen

once tyler, via art_C, went into the future generations wanting to stay unborn, the SEC simply HAD to try to protect their future midgets!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:51 | 1688997 Chaffinch
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Yep. And you might even get stopped out at a price that hasn't happened yet, and when it does happen it will be gone so fast that you cannot do anything about it.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:02 | 1689031 Debt-Penitent
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There seems to be a crack in the porcelin of what the MSM has been touting.

Obviously, the bids are being interupted, somewhere along the line allowing the HFTs to be faster than the time stamps are allocated.

Question:  How many coincidences does it take to manifest a conspiracy?

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:48 | 1689246 fuu
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Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:21 | 1688876 johnQpublic
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looks to me like the webbot project is spot on

seeing the future...not just for clairvoyent humans anymore

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:31 | 1688921 TheFourthStooge-ing
Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:19 | 1689080 tip e. canoe
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i see you also got the new HPH report hot off the presses and read through to the conclusion.   was just thinking the same thing.   uncanny, huh?    what's really odd is that it was scheduled to be released tonight and he released it last night instead.   or maybe it was tonight last night and today is yesterday tomorrow?

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:30 | 1688916 CosmicBuddha
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They must have employed tachyon pulses rather than light pulses to communicate the information, either that or they are swindling fraudsters.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:43 | 1688976 DeadFred
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At the nanosecond and shorter level time starts behaving as a probability function so these bots may actually be able to react with future bids and offers but I'm at a loss to see how the the time stamp can be applied without collapsing the wave. Consequently I'm going with the 'swindling fraudsters' option.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:18 | 1689108 Nascent_Variable
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Perhaps if we fire an inverse tachyon pulse into the HFT servers, we may be able to prevent the imminent crash.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:34 | 1688939 madgstrader
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does that mean they can sell the stock a few fanta seconds before they buy it? wow, neat trick

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:35 | 1688940 madgstrader
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2x post deleted sorry

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:58 | 1689020 SoCalBusted
Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:22 | 1689126 Don Birnam
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Jim Kirk invested with one of these HFT shops with less than adequate results. Algorithmic error precipitated a backwardation of trade execution. Stale trades -- going back to the late 17th Century, and the London 'Change, as it were. 

The SEC is still investigating, but progress is slow, due to the inability to depose the Cromwellian stockjobbbers in question.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 15:51 | 1689895 Ponzi Unit
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Hey Don, nice avatar -- Lost Weekend!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:28 | 1689152 Azannoth
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We're deep into quantum physics here, it is very possible for mass less object to break the speed of light, electrons in the 'vacuum tubes' are mass less (according to modern physics) so  trading faster than the speed of light is theoretically possible

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:08 | 1688806 jdelano
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It's like when Butch found Marty's sports almanac....

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:34 | 1688941 catacl1sm
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Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:38 | 1688955 jdelano
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damn.  and it won't let me edit for some reason.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 13:02 | 1689305 New_Meat
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locked after u get a reply.  otoh, if you had one of them magical time thingiez, u could go back and get it the way u want it now.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:09 | 1688808 SteveNYC
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Busted computerized zombie market custodian of your IRA/401k, bitchezzzz!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:16 | 1688848 SMG
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Tue, 09/20/2011 - 15:15 | 1689766 Cathartes Aura
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it is a crime, but who will prosecute?  act accordingly.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 20:50 | 1690643 StychoKiller
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Bailed out in March-2010 -- golden parachute!  Saved by silkworms!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:19 | 1688862 RemiG2010
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The new level of self destruction has been reached.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 15:53 | 1689908 viahj
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Morpheus : the desert of the real...We have only bits

and pieces of information, but what we know for certain is

that some point in the early twenty-first century all of

mankind was united in celebration. We marvelled at our own

magnificence.... as we gave A.I.

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