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Jon Stewart On The Ron "13th Floor In A Hotel" Paul Media Blackout
Over the weekend, following the Iowa straw poll result, we posed a simple question: why does the media continue to ignore Ron Paul (on both the left and right)? We followed up with none other than Paul's own response to this curious status quo. A few days later, it appears that the media itself has finally caught on to this ironic 'house of mirrors' effect, and while Paul is still not a household name, the self-effacing sarcasm this topic has garnered, has been captured best by none other than Jon Stewart in this entertaining clip that mocks the established mindset of the legacy media to not dare disturb the status quo, confirming that everyone, left and right, are really all just the same. For those who have not seen it yet, this is a hilarious must watch.
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13th floor "classic"
Jon Stewart is a horse's arse
I've been down on Jon Stewart for a while with his shameless misinformation campaign, but I gotta hand it to him, he stepped up on this issue.
I am a huge Jon Stewart fan, and this was a classic. This morning, one of the MSM shows was talking about the Ron Paul Blindness. Their conclusion was classic: he is simply not relevant. That is why he is not getting air time. As Reagan would say, "There you go again."
Ron Paul is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. My thoughts is the Tea Party will eat everyone's lunch.
Ron Paul? Ron Paul can't save us! Only an alien invasion can! (Krugman actualy thinks this)
http://azizonomics.com/2011/08/16/krugman-calls-for-alien-invasion/
Ronny "The Conservative God" also mentioned the "Aliens could bring harmony the world" routine and he was loved by all on the right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfejBpD_wm4
Aliens to left, aliens to the right. Take your pick on which alien references make you feel better.
Have you seen the size of some of those people? They've been eating everybody's lunch for a while.
The "deep fried twinkie" sign behind the bus says it all. I think it applies to the MSM as well as all the candidates and their supporters other than RP. This is so embarrassing, this country is fucked.
Ron Paul is the only candidate who has intelligence and wisdom of substance that doesn't just pertain to mere political strategy.
I would love to see RP decimate Oblahma (the former constitutional law professor) in a debate, which he most certainly would.
Ron Paul not willing to gt on his knees and to choke/gag on a 12" "corn dawg like the rest. Can't have that now can we. Folks, he's the only option left. If we're going down, we may as well go down swinging.
Hey TD - how bout a ZH presidential tracking pole of your own?
ShankyS,
Agree. Ron Paul is for real.
US public has grown up on the "Boob Tube" and been brainwashed until needs the kind of actors that have populated the tube during the last few decades.
Except for Paul, the current political scene scares me. There are none in this current crop that I want to turn loose with my future.
I second that.
The Rest: "I never had sexual relations with that corndog..."
Reality check: Never, EVER go full corndog...
Have you seen the size of Hillary and Barney Franks asses?
Proof positive not all the corn is going into gas tanks.
I am really starting to believe this "ignore Ron Paul" tactic is going to backfire in a big way. Amercians generally love an underdog, and when a seemingly decent, honorable old guy like Ron is getting kicked around by TPTB, it will cause people to take notice, that otherwise wouldn't have given 2 shits.
Unofficial anecdotal evidence: My block in central Austin (which is a dot of blue amoung a sea of red) has 5 Ron Paul yard signs (including mine and soon to be 6 as I'm picking one up for a neighbor who wants one). My block 4 years ago was all Hope and Change Obammer signs. For what it's worth.
I Got Worms,
Good work!
Look, the MSM have been owned by the banksters since the 1930's: See Congressman Charles Lindbergh and Congressman Louis McFadden. Both read into the Congressional record how the Fed, working through the NYT syndicate, bought the editorial viewpoints of the nation's newspapers, and eventually the televised news.
No one paid attention to Ron Paul ten years ago. Everything seemed to be going okay. Today, his message about the Fed and the corporatocracy are more than relevant; they are a burning torch in a fireworks factory.
Let's hope the whole dump goes up like Hiroshima. BTW, this was one of the best segments ever from Jon Stewart.
The MSM clearly believes America is not ready for an honorable, principled politician.
But I really hope you are right, I want this "Ignore Paul" tactic to become so fucking blatant that more and more people wake up to the fact that democracy is a lie....
Nice theory, but is tripped up by the fact that Boobus Americanus will most certainly be led by the nose. Paul's candidacy requires the voter to think, and that is something We The People, the bottom 99%, will not do.
That's a good thing, the more they ignore him, the more popular he will become.
-- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
Excellent quote. I sincerely hope it works out that way.
Ron Paul's biggest supporters will be the S&P500, DOW, RUT and friends. When the S&P speaks even Fox News will listen.
Nope.
If we actually had a free market capitalist system in the world that would be the case. But we have a crony capitalist system where the ownership of government power is essential. As a result, those you mention are not for him but are arrayed AGAINST him and THAT is precisely why the corporate media intentionally ignores him.
I have said since the results were announced that the way the straw poll turned out was THE BEST POSSIBLE outcome that could have happened for Ron Paul. If Ron would have flat out wont the poll, the poll would have been cast aside as a farce. A <1% loss makes the media focus on how relavent the poll was, thus adding to the fire that he is a relavent canidate.
The hypocrasy is exposed, and more people are seeing it. It's all a scam, and people are waking up. This poll did more for Ron's cause than a first place finish would ever have done.
Ron Paul 2012!
+1
This poll is only relevant and credible in the eyes of the establishment media because the corn dogging milf won it. If Dr. Paul had won, the poll would have been silently dismissed as irrelevant, would have received no news coverage.
Hell, as the Stewart episode points out, they've tried to marginalize Paul in the MSM anyway. WTF is up with the "Top Tier" repeated over and over? They were all merely briefed by their producer on the talking points of the day handed down by TPTB and blurted them out on TV. How fucking irrelevant can television "news" get?
Ron Paul 2012!
nevermind
Someone should do a youtube video calld; "Anatomy of a Mainsream Media Conspiracy to censor Dr Ron Paul."
In a coordinated effort, the MSM conspired to censor Ron Paul of any discussion concerning his virtual win at the Iowa Straw Poll.
The MSM's corporate job is to brainwash and deceive people through Orwellian omission of facts, and to select the people who they deem fit for you to vote for.
The video should be about the blatantly obvious attack on Dr Paul this past weekend as 100% proof of the conspiracy, and Reporters, who are virtually all card carrying members of the CFR, and the role they play in our lives to socially engineer us and our decisions.
Thank God hardly anyone watches them anymore.
Stewart is a lib tool for bilderberg/rothschild scum.
BUT he is entertaining (albeit for a short bit)
"I've been down on Jon Stewart for a while with his shameless misinformation campaign,"
This was great RP piece. Yes, know what you mean. After Stewart secret meeting with Geithner he change. Now maybe he back.
Like your broken English?
Lol
Nigger....CON-JEW-GATE.
Best Jon Stewart segment I think I have ever seen.
sunnydays on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:34 #1565441
Best Jon Stewart segment I think I have ever seen.
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Not a CHANCE in Hell that Stewart is going to VOTE for him though ...
SO it's really all pretty moot.
Good show segment though.
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+ 2012
Love him or hate him, he's a good comedian.
It is refreshing that Stewart brings attention to the issue, but there is ulterior motive somewhere. Smell that?
i'm not a fan of his either, buuuuut... that was pretty well done.
I'm not liking it because it was most effective advertising. The writers lost a lot of us over the last year or two and know this will help regain those losses. Sucker punch, yo. Plus, it was really empty in that even now John is free to mention Ron or not.
I admit some times Jon doesn’t show his colors but to call him a horses ass?
When he tells it like it is he is worth watching. A few years back he had that piece of shit Jim Cramer on the show and hammered the shit out of him, it’s sad to see freedom of the press such a failure that the court jester has to bring to light that the MSM’s responsibility as Americans are to not misinform the public.
It’s fucking treasonous
must see
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-12-2009/jim-cramer-pt--1
I'm in my 60s...seen a lifetime of propoganda....I shit on the msm.
+1
All the media is shit.
I bet you didn't even watch the video.
Not gonna listen to someone who speaks the truth if his political bias is different from yours, huh?
YOU STUPID AMERICANS ARE BEING BENT OVER AND FUCKED!!!!!!!!
Ron Paul can stop it and your saying no thanks.
FUCKING IDIOTS DESERVE YOUR PEARL NECKLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The entire world is being bent over because the crony capitalism is multinational. Virtually all governments are corporate owned with only a few exceptions, small countries like Iceland who bravely told the bankers to go fuck themselves as we should have. So, unless you live in one of those countries, expect a pearl necklace yourself.
"I am not bound over to swear allegiance to any master; where the storm drives me I turn in for shelter" - Horace - 68 BC
Yes he's an ass, but that doesn't change the fact that he nailed this one.
Where is Baby Blythe? This stick would make her orgasmic?
Hmmm ... a 'must see' ...
Stewart nailed it out of the park.
Jon Stewart is way smarter than anyone on-camera at Faux News and for that matter, most all other mainstream media taling heads. And, unlike most of those other propaganda mills, he will invite people on his how who have opposing opinions. That act alone goes well beyond what pro-fascist media outlets like Limbaugh's show allows.
Huh. Like you'd know ...
True. I don't watch mainstream media. But the same goes for you...like you'd know...prove me wrong genius.
by GeorgeHayduke
on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 13:04
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... And, unlike most of those other propaganda mills, he will invite people on his how who have opposing opinions.
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Proof you're a moron; Policy on the Limbaugh show is NOT to have guests .. it's a CALL-IN FORMAT. Opposing views are WELCOME to call in though. Infact, libruls are put to 'the head of the list'.
Proof, again, that you "don't know" (as I said: "like you'd know' b/c I knew you DID NOT know).
Q.E.D.
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Jon Stewart would destroy Rush.Besides, I don't see Jon Stewart as a liberal, just a mainstream kind of guy.
It's not about liberals vs conservatives, it's about rational human vs ideologues. So, you are right, I don't play in the liberal vs conned game since it is futile.
In case you didn't know, Jonny-boy needs WRITERS for his material; Rush does not.
Stewart would be lost in a one on one debate, Librul.
Do you remember how just Chris Wallace had Stewart squirming and uncomfortable in his chair?
How SOON you forget ... a trait of LIBERALISM (short memory of events in history) I might add.
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Gawd!Give it a rest already. I've been hearing that liberal vs. conservative crap since the 60s and it's nothing but 2 sides of the same coin. Think outside the box for just one second...it's quite refreshing.
The choice you are given is whether you will be fucked by a democrat or a republican. I am glad you feel so vehemently about the political lean of your dominator/dominatrix.
... which you obviously love to suck on, clueless economist.
You must be clueless in more things than economics. Jon Stewart is far more informative than any foxcon crap you listen to. You are horses ASS!
Awesome!
“Ideas are very important to the shaping of society. In fact, they are more powerful than bombings or armies or guns. And this is because ideas are capable of spreading without limit. They are behind all the choices we make. They can transform the world in a way that governments and armies cannot. Fighting for liberty with ideas makes more sense to me than fighting with guns or politics or political power. With ideas, we can make real change that lasts.”
— Ron Paul (Liberty Defined: The 50 Urgent Issues That Affect Our Freedom)
“And yet even among the friends of liberty, many people are deceived into believing that government can make them safe from all harm, provide fairly distributed economic security, and improve individual moral behavior. If the government is granted a monopoly on the use of force to achieve these goals, history shows that power is always abused. Every single time.”
— Ron Paul (Liberty Defined: The 50 Urgent Issues That Affect Our Freedom)
“A citizen walking through the airport today is bombarded with 1984-style propaganda messages that are designed to make us fear some amorphous threat and also be suspicious of others. The government designs these messages to make us feel dependent and heavily lorded over in every aspect of our lives. These messages are becoming ever more pervasive, hitting us even in grocery stores when we are shopping.”
— Ron Paul (Liberty Defined: The 50 Urgent Issues That Affect Our Freedom)
There's a sea change in the politics of the Republican Party -- for those who follow such things.
http://thereaganwing.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/the-problem-is-not-obama/#...
Also see
"MEDIA: Mainstream-Embracing Disappointingly Ignorant Advocates"http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/media-mainstreamembracing_b_...
(from the Huff Po today0
THe detractors of Jon Stewart are intimidated by his mastery of comedy. It is a genetic signal to woman of intellectual superiority, which makes those who attack his person feel smaller by comparison.
He is favored by women and men alike, the masses, the popular people. Calling him names just reveals you as the failure of natural selection that your genes and upbringing have produced.
Signal your own intelligence to friends and new people by being as interesting as Jon Stewart, or you're just an antipode holding a grudge.
And it wasnt the 13th floor of a hotel. It was the 9th floor of a epartment store, where the manekins and puppets would take turns coming to life and have a vacation in the real world.
Just saw that the other day. Gotta love Anne Francis.
Bloomberg = CNBS
wall to wall Buffett today on Bloomberg with a Charlie Rose climax Buffett interview tonight
"banks are in great shape" "corporate profits in great shape" "economy continues to grow"
"all we need is to have household formation exceed housing starts, which it is doing and get starts back to 1 million"
"it was housing that caused the recession"
no mention of derivatives, bailouts, Wells Fargo money laundering and its cozy relationship with Mexican drug cartels,
Or the 16.1 trillion in emergency loans granted by The Fed to US and foreign institutions between Dec 1, 2007 and July 21, 2010.
Or this hilarious chart I have titled "pushing on a string"
Excess Reserves of Depository Institutions
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/EXCRESNS
This one also is further evidence of "pushing on a string"
M1 Money Multiplier
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/MULT
We're running out of bullets to artificially buoy asset prices; the divergence between asset prices (as measured by the stock market) and the real economy cannot last.
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Man, I am so sick of the company line. This is all bullshit, unadulterated.
JOBS, JOBS, JOBS (and wages, wages, wages), and NOT housing, is ground zero.
Even guest post articles on Zero Hedge (Charles Smith, among others) have alleged the housing bust and depression is a cause, rather than a symptom, of the disease we have.
The disease we have isn't bustedhouseitis.
The disease we have is FewerJobsAtLowerPay/BenefitsItis.
Everything else is a symptom, including sick housing and retail markets.
The housing boom was an inflated bubble that served as the Tylenol that suppressed the fever and symptoms of the gutting out of quality jobs that has now been taking place for decades, and which accelerated at warp speed in about 2000.
Don't tell that to the monkeys that run the place; they're convinced they're better than anyone else and that they can pay everyone less while taking more. They'll scratch their heads, wondering why houses aren't being sold, or why cars aren't being sold -- or why consumption is down.
Eventually, one of the numpties will figure out that paying people more will increase consumption, and that will be revolutionary--even though it's all been done before. Where the fuck is Henry Ford? I mean seriously? Why the hell do we have to even discuss this shit 100 years later?
Oh.. I guess we're supposed to be mouthing our prayers to the great capitalistic gods? Paying more is never good! More profits--may fortune smile upon me, so that myself [and the people I care about] get more, while everyone gets less.
The folks who run the joint don't care about jobs. They don't NEED jobs.
The Fed and it's thumb on interest rates, Corporate myopia-kill U.S. jobs, create Chinese jobs, and political whoring, all combined have created the cesspool we now call an economy.
Exactly.
"CNBS" "NOBAMA" "OBUMMER" "REPUGLICANS" "REPUBLICANTS"
Wow look how clever we are! You almost don't need an argument when you can convey such massive savvy with a few letter swap like that.
Very hilarious ...but disturbing.
Put some tits on Ron Paul.
and a corn dog in his throat
and give him a frontal lobotomy.
I'd go with the more progressive "bottle infrontofme" option...
Then have Kissinger Associates pick his dress...
Celebrity rehab, just for a little extra window-dressing?
BANZAI!
OT: is it me or does the chick in the peer1 hosting ads always appear to be stimulating her nipples or at least pointing them out? "Peep1 Hosting, Tits and Shoulders above the rest!"
Oligarchy
Main Stream Media now officially and formally only for entertainment - no informational validity. Quite distressing. Thanks to ZH!
from the daily paul......
Jon Stewart's REAL NAME, and what he does not want you to know...
jonstewartsce...
Production Assistant
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Posted: 07-04-2011 2:24 AM
Jon Stewart, I hope you read this.
I have enjoyed your show for a long time, and long considered you one of the more informed media personalities. I cannot believe that you didn't even mention Ron's name in episode 86 (season 16)
Pretending like Ron Paul doesn't exist, you are just as bad as Bill O'Reilly. I hope Bill's writing staff jumps right on this, and, in the words of Sarah Palin, "shoves it down your throat," and calls YOU out for being a capital P, Patsy. You deserve to be publicly humiliated just like you attempted to do to him, FOR THE EXACT SAME THING HE DID. (I can hear that last capitalized part in your voice because you have taught me to view the news with the loud, ironic, candor of your voice, something I used to enjoy, but now I am so utterly disappointed in coming to the full realization that you are as fake as margarine covered in saccharin eaten by Heidi Montag on one of Abu Dhabi's palm tree islands, that I feel like I hate you.)
You are an impediment to the democratic system Jon. By marching with the rest of the corrupt, corporate media and propagating fragmented information to suit whatever your intentions may be, you are doing the people of the United States of America a great injustice. You pretend to be better than Fox news, and for a long time we kind of bought that. The truth is, you are something far more conniving and evil than Fox news as illustrated by your gross disrespect for a politician and blatant hypocricy.
Is the joke that you're a joke? Is the joke that you called Bill out on his snubbing of political candidate Ron Paul, to then do the exact same thing, and laugh yourself to the bank on the profits of the evil dumbing-down of America that you knock Fox for?
Your schtick systematically knocking every single candidate except Ron was completely see-through and offensive Jon. Unfortunately not see through for everyone, and just like Fox news, people use you for real news, you know it, you receive nominations for news awards. Tonight I saw you display the corporate psychopathic trademark, no integrity.
You're the fat girl that tells everyone to lose weight Jon. You're the heroin dealer that only smokes pot Jon.
You're the patsy newscaster with nervous energy (selling your soul obviously leaves you a shaking shell) misinforming the people about the presidential election because your brother is Larry Leibowitz (your real surname!) the CEO of the New York Stock Exchange, and the truth would be bad for your family business. Isn't that right Jon? Gosh, what would Ron Paul's ending the Federal Reserve do for your brother's fat salary, paid for with the anguish of the proletariat prisoners of the Corporate American Machine? You must have to employ magical thinking, just like Bill O'Reilly, to keep the stomach acid down when you see your insincere reflection in blood-money bathroom mirror. (Ron Paul will bring all our soldiers home from the blood bath, but you didn't mention that either)
You've got kids Jon, do your part to not leave them on a corrupt sinking political ship, please, help us newsman. Be more than a shill. Be more than a scoundrel. Be more than a pittering, puny, patsy. Use that booming voice of yours to tell the damn truth Jon Stewart Leibowitz!
In your own words Jon, "stop hurting America."
Stewart is knob worshipped by the Huffpo crowd and mindless sheep
it is amazing how anyone would give his show the time of day. amazing. it shows how far this country has fallen in some respects. imagine that. this man, makes fun of things that are in reality very sad, yet the subservient sheep laugh at his mindless drivel while he makes a joke out of our predicament. so one must realize that they are laughing at you and that the joke is on you, but many of you will not understand this.
HPD, I enjoy and agree with many of your posts. And I generally dislike Jon Stewart and the mindless liberal sheep that make up his audience. But every now and then, he hits a grand slam and this is one of them. I promise this video will go viral and pull back the mainstream media curtain a bit for some people, no matter wheter they are CNBC or Fox veiwers. This is a big boost for Ron Paul's campaign, regardless of how much a douche/disinformant the messenger is.
Edit - I know this video is going big time viral, because it's getting so much traffic, it's won't load or takes forever. This is a great development for Paul's supporters!
Wow, where did you find that bombshell... I mean, for anyone without a functioning TV this will come as quite s shock!
You do know it's a comedy show, right?
High Plains Drifter is scared of the Jew. Any jew reference he find it. What happen when you young boy, did jew scare you? WTF?
Good work man.
High Plains enjoys getting up each morning, brewing a cup of joe, and thinking about the "evil doers". It gives him energy and spark.
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the problem is tribal. do you understand this?
yes, you may be right, but maybe you also should consider that the true tribal bonds may not be specific to racial, ethnic, social or religious "boundaries".
why do you think the nwo is having such a hard time with libya? it is because in their society , in their culture, their bonds within their people are held together by tribe. there are many tribes in libya. they all act and are controlled by their own tribal elders etc. this is the way it has been for a long time perhaps going back to ancient times. as the old green beret says on the radio station program i listen to from time to time, with any high tech weapon, you can defeat it with a low tech weapon. tribes are low tech so to speak. when we speak of white western european cultures we were at one time all divided into tribes but as time went by, this force was combined into one, a white western european culture that this country was founded upon. so the enemy decided that this culture must be destroyed in order to prepare the way for the nwo. so it is happening now. jon stewart is doing his part. after all, how can one ascertain anything good coming from a guy who works for the enemy. i mean who it is that owns the comedy channel? don't you find it strange how people derive their news from a comedian? the joke is on us and we had better get with the program and understand that any white man walking around now, has a target on his back and all of this racial desparity that is continually brought up etc, is done for a reason, that reason is distraction from what is really going on behind the curtains. so that when the races fight each other, they are just doing what they are told more or less and the real enemy gets stronger while we get weaker. end game is now in sight........there will be no tomorrow. there will be no more middle class. there is no hope unless we as a nation and a country and a people seize that hope and reach for the gold ring and take victory out of the jaws of defeat................amen?
a white western european culture that this country was founded upon
And slave labor. Don't forget to give the slaves a shout-out too, dude.
well we are all slaves. if you are talking about blacks, i must say there were more white slaves than black in this country and they were treated worse than the blacks. but such a small little known fact (courtesy of the history book writers) should not stand in the way of politically correct behaviors should it? on a side note, did you know that north african slave ships raided the coastlines of europe all the way north and on to iceland , searching for white slaves to kidnap and to sell? these were the same bozos that tried to get fresh with american ships and this caused president jefferson to send some marines over to deal with them?
It's "little-known" because it's not true.
Legislation about slavery was very specifically designed to apply to "negroes," and treating "white" folks as chattel was a crime, even in 1800. "Indentured servitude" wasn't slavery, it was just exchange of labor/services for a loan.
That said, it's easy enough to make a case that any form of capitalist importation and exploitation of a non-native workforce is slavery. That's a classic Marxist argument, actually.
not true???? go read...
.http://www.revisionisthistory.org/forgottenslaves.html
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/white_slavery.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvo7eVI_eIc
http://bobsblahblahblogs.blogspot.com/2009/04/there-is-so-much-untold-history-out.html
when the english king would get pissed off from time to time, he would order the streets cleared of beggers etc. they would round them up,put them in chains and put them on boats to amerika to be used as slaves.........
dude you need to get out more and get away from the government books...at first slavery here was a totally white thingy, but they discovered the the black slaves could work harder in the heat and bad working conditions and could last longer too , so they started bringing in blacks...which also cost more.....
just who was it that was in the slave business?
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Walter.White/Who.Brought.the.Slaves.to.America.htm
of the 22 million black slaves brought to north amerika on jewish owned slave ships about 20 million of them perished. i know i can be funny about this stuff but to me that could be called a holocaust could it not? but if i was living in germany i would be arrested and thrown in jail for saying such a thingy....
kind of weird doncha think, coming from a people who always talk about being slaves in egypt etc...........
this is your hpd and i am standing by reading the mail..............
Where are the footnotes?
I've read some history, and yes there were slaves of every race and color pretty much everywhere.
Let's get specific:
"we are all slaves" = common Marxist trope, ok, impossible to establish a truth value
"more white slaves than black in this country" = false, bullshit, no way. The (completely unverifiable) assertions made in the links ALL predate "this country." You fail badly, whether at reading comprehension or skepticism or precision is unclear. British slavery was well established, so of course there was white slavery in a British colony, but that's not something I'd take issue with.
"Jewish owned slave ships" = sure, some were. They could only be Jewish owned or Christian owned, and there were plenty of both. Picking out the Jewish-owned ones makes sense for a racist bigot.
You can find claims by anyone about anything on the Internet. It's not a difficult thing to cross reference competing claims when you have access to a decent library and some time to invest. But if you're expecting anyone with even half a cent of common critical reasoning, you have to bring some well-sourced information to the argument. If you weren't such an obviously rabid anti-semite, you could potentially pique my interest enough to look into this myself.
But...well...that's that, then.
Some truth here. Extensive raids for centuries by Arabs into white Eastern Europe capturing slaves. That's why they became known as the "slavic" countries.
HPD, {replying to myself just to try not to hog too much bandwith}, on the level, cannot disagree with anything you wrote there. but as you hinted, there is indeed something going on behind the 'tribal' curtain. now what if behind the curtain (or rather the curtain behind the curtain), there was another conflict going on? that between 2 tribes, represented as follows:
-those who respect life & those who embrace death.
-those who choose to create & those who seek to destroy.
-those who always want to express love & those who can't stop the hate.
-those who who are anxious to become awake and those who are happy inside the dream.
-those who are willing to accept responsibility & those who are always looking for a way out of being responsible.
-those who are considerate of others' suffering & those who are inconsiderate of anything but their own selfish pleasures.
-those who understand the truth must be discovered for oneself & those who believe their version of The Truth Must Be Accepted By All.
-those who choose to believe it is possible to survive through giving & getting and those who are certain the only way is through having & taking.
-those who wish to live as equals with everyone on the Earth & those who are bred to believe that only they and their Kind came from the Heavens.
-those who want to cooperate with some to compete with others on a level playing field & those who endeavor to conspire with a few to exploit everyone else by titling the board in their favor.
-those who see themselves and everyone around them as potentially more powerful than most of them realize & those who always looking for the angle to play the victim in order to justify all of the above in their Mind.
...and so on and so on... if you got 10 mins to spare, i invite you to watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsak0fG6WE4 not asking you to agree with it, just to consider what he's saying. (and if you got another 10 mins & want to go deeper down the rabbit hole, watch part 3).what he had to offer (since he is hell now awaiting final judgment) does not speak to me. my bs detector went off early in this speech. it is a distraction. what i speak about is very simple to understand but oh so unbelievable to the sheep who have suffered and been under the century of self for so long now that they cannot see it............therefore to them it is complex............but a hundred years ago, many would listen to hpd , and 200 years ago, i would be the one listening while someone else spoke about it all.......such is the way it was and the way it is now. it is easier to go off on tangets instead of pointing the finger of blame where it needs to be pointed. it is much easier to believe distractions than it is to say what needs to be said. the hpd missle is locked on target and will not be shaken off..........
so be it amigo. see you on the other side.
by SRV - ES339
on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:24
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You do know it's a comedy show, right?
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"Farcical" ?
far·ci·cal (fär s -k l). adj.
1. Of or relating to farce.
2. a. Resembling a farce; ludicrous. b. Ridiculously clumsy; absurd. ...
Ooookaaaay ...
JOOS!
here you go fufu. since you want to get smart assed. nothing like an apostate to set you straight. when in doubt go to the source. down through the middle ages, jews would from time to time for some reason go against their tribes. such is the situation with kapner. one would do well to listen to him and what he has to say. nobody can know a jew better than a jew himself it seems. in his videos he attempts to lay out the plan as crafted by his former fellow tribal members. the truth is there for anyone to listen to and make up your own minds on it. truth is truth. this nation will die unless we wake up about all of this.
the great amerikan disconnect...
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=641
Looks like the sock puppets are coming after you hard today HPD.
it never ends. they do not understand what they are up against ...............what was it carlin said. what the state does not want is people who are capable of critical thinking. they have been robbed in the government schools and many of them do not understand or know it........sad really, very sad.
Why not go with the International jew? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_International_Jew
Or the Protocols of Zion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
You are still fighting the last great war .
This war is about criminal greed. Who cares if the criminals are Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, or Agnostics. It doesn't matter. The religion of the criminals is of no consequence.
But keep spinning that yarn.
each tune has its own words and its own music. if you can't hear it , then you don't understand it. go back and listen to alex jones. he is best place for you and the place where you will always be..........some people do not learn and some people do not understand and they are comfortable with the place they are in. fine. there is no time to worry about it now.
Always have to laugh when posters claim Fox is some right-wing mouthpiece, as can be seen in the video they tow the oligarchy line quite well. Oh they may pander to the right but that is well controlled.
They play their role. The purpose of the MSM is to keep the public divided and on edge.
"The purpose of the MSM is to keep the public divided and on edge."
and that is why the MSM is in its death throes, they are quickly becoming irrelevant, thanks to places like ZH!
I think you underestimate their hold on America. I notice it each election cycle.
on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 11:11
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"They play their role. The purpose of the MSM is to keep the public divided and on edge."
All this, while the Crony Capitalists & Kleptocrats enabled by Friends of Obama/Congress/TheBernank/TheDudley and the non-Regulators steal American Taxpayers blind and jeopardize the future of their children (born and not yet born).
divide and conquer strategies make it so easy, yet many play along like want to be part of it............they take their places and say their lines like the good little slaves they are, not even knowing the truth or even knowng that what they do destroys themselves, their prosperity and their people.
As a cog in the distraction machine you should be proud.
fufu i work for God and country and my people. call it what you like. it matters not what you say. you have no idea what is coming.
No I have a good idea what is coming. A return to ignorance where people are swayed by fear and hated.
This has all happened before.
a return you say. so please explain such a statement if you can?
I do not believe intratribal violence in America is homogenous. I believe it ebbs and flows. I see us in another period of FUD when demagogues easily mislead the sheep into attacking the bogeyman instead of the true source of suffering.
I will concede that perhaps you believe Zionists are the root of all evil. I see it as a smoke screen of the elite in general. I see the pendulum of blame swing from one group to the next as time goes by. Yet very rarely is the blame placed where it should be, the sociopathic criminals of today.
Since you made me think quite a bit this afternoon I have decided to let you win at this point. I think you are wrong but I also deeply believe you should say what you think. I was wrong to mock you.
How about you bigots STFU, buy a Ron Paul bumper sticker, and be part of something constructive?
Been there, done that, became a delegate and precinct secretary.
It's funny, they are definitely trying their best to ignore him. But if they overdo it too much, his counter-cultural appeal may want up causing it all to backfire. In the end though, all of these pieces that have a stake in the establishment status quo will do whatever is necessary to stop this guy from winning the nomination.
Now if people would only realize that is precisely why he is worth supporting.
Anyone Google that name lately? For years it has been an obscene reference. Google must have altered the search engine to keep it the number one result as well it should be, but I checked and it is still:
Santorum
Santorum: 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the
byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.
I really don't know why it matters, even a depression will see Obama reelected I think, the right has just gone too far off the rails with their social anti everything, the religious bullshit. Paul is the only one near to the top in their party that is not thumping a bible and promising to turn America "back" into a theocracy as if we ever were one. But as much as I like his sincerity and his position that government is corrupt and banking is corrupt, and the Fed is a kleptoctopus, he is also probably too old to get elected to a first term, and his personal views on social issues are not a lot better than the others running, so how could a patently unqualified candidate with questionable citizenship status have won in 2008? Simple, the right has turned greed and paternalistic WASP 19th century morality into a religion every bit as much as HuffPo treats Obama or Global Warming as religions, and the country is now too diverse to tolerate it.
+100, a lone voice in the team spirit rally. . . it's gonna be a looooooooong 15 months of this electioneering sports playoffs, even more stale & repetitious posts in these threads as we go. . . remember RP has a politician son too, so we've got the "keep it in the family" royalty baton being passed as well - nothing like electioneering to raise the "brand name."
oh, & thanks Dan Savage! lol. . .
Why TY handsome, you are obviously a man of taste and intelligence, about time someone appreciated the labor I go to for this board! :)
The US media has developed symptoms of senility...
No, they know exactly what they're doing. Anyone who fights the conventional "wisdom" is a nut case. I don't agree with some of what Ron Paul says, but I agree with most of it and I KNOW that all of the other candidates are nothing more than photogenic yes-men power junkies to be vetted by the oligarchic selection process and who will ignore all campaign promises after being elected. SNAFU. But, of course, the idiot voters never sem to learn learn. They should have listened to one of the idiots they didn't elect: "There's an old saying in Texas: Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again!"
carbon @ 11:06,
Senility?.........
Maybe more like ONE entity in a dark room is the source for ALL their talking points.
Sad actually, But like I said in an earlier post. America is afraid of Ron Paul because they don't want to hear the truth...that America is not nearly as great as we think we are and we have a tough road ahead.
America doesn't KNOW Ron Paul, and you can see why.
Someday things will change. My great consolation in these dark days is knowing that the downfall of governance and civilization in the West will also destroy the modern media empires.
I really wish his son would run. He is younger, just as bright and has almost the same politics.
Yep, the avg sheep CAN'T hear him anymore.
That's the problem. Do you think one of the FSA wants to hear that you need to get out and work to eat.
Do you think that one of the oligarchs feasting on the murderous crimes that are committed in the name of "de-fense" wants to hear him?
Nope. The whole system is now full of feral scum and more are coming every day that care not a bit for anything other than what they can get the gvt to steal from the productive and give to them and their scum friends.
Vote for him or whomever. No diff. Hellhole are in most every big city now *not much more than 3rd world slums* and they are feral in nature.
Night night sleep tight, you earned it baby.
Wow.
New respect for Jon Stewart for even covering, in a relatively fair way Ron Paul. Not what i expected this morning.
Now let's see if Stewart actually invites Ron Paul on his show. I can hear the chirping noises now...
Whether one likes it or not, Ron Paul is going to be identified more and more as an "anti-establishment" candidate.
And that's going to have increasing appeal among a large swath of frustrated voters.
I think he has been on there before. I know he was on Colbert. Real, non-dogmatic liberals tend to love Paul, from what I have seen. At least, they love him when there is a Republican president.
What exactly is there not to love for progressive/socialist/"freedom from fascist oppression" leaning types?
We just need him to explain what "sound money" means to the american people. And he can even dig up Keynes ghost. Even Keynes would be aghast at our half-ass implementation of keynsianism. Yogi Berra is a better economist than (the current) TPTB.
"If you see a fork in the road, take it"
every fukin point you listed is hated by the elites that run this place and the FSA and or the church going that suck the ass of either side.
NO CHANCE NO CHANCE. I don't mind dream states but you best not be driving while dreaming.
"Ron Paul thinks that the federal government should NOT subsidize OR disincentivise people no matter which side they are on in the social issues debates. (Life/Choice, non-traditional marriage/marriage, marijuanna, etc)."
+1 live and let live baby.
Ron Paul has been on the Daily Show multiple times. The Daily Show is often much more nuanced than people here seem to think.
Damm right, Jon will piss on the right AND the left extremes. Mostly he makes fun of media though. People think he's bias because he picks on FOX quite abit, the thing is FOX spouts far more propaganda the rest of media combined.
Anyone who watches Fox News and thinks they're getting a balanced view is a moron. For that matter, anyone who watches the mainstream media at all and thinks they're "informed" is a moron.