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Jon Stewart's Extended Interview With Ron Paul
About a month ago, after everyone in the wholly conflicted media (just ask one question: who pays all that advertising money - nuf said), on both the left and the right, was ignoring the most promising presidential candidate this country has had in decades, Jon Stewart decided to take Ron Paul under his wing, and made it clear that while those who don't matter can pretend to ignore Ron, the one man who does, and who reaches more than most of the legacy "serious media" combined, has certainly noticed Paul. Naturally Stewart could have left it there, especially given his own personal political view. To his great credit, he did not. Instead last night in an extended exclusive interview, he presented Ron Paul in a way that he should have been presented from the beginning: no tricks, no gotchas, no gimmicks, no commercial breaks every 45 seconds. Hopefully this is the beginning of the transition of the Paul campaign to one where he has enough critical mass to be taken seriously by everyone - something "everyone" should be doing regardless.
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I think Schiff is reserved for SecTreas or Chairman of the Fed, for the 2 weeks it takes ot shut it down.
Get a fuxkimg grip. As soon as he picks a fucking retard for running mate he becomes redundant.
Your thought process depresses me.
Paul/Jesus
McCartney?
Is that supposed to be a joke, N_V?
If not, then go back to sleep. Gingrich is one of the largest jokes in politics & I doubt very seriously that Ron Paul even likes being on the same debate stage as that huckster. He has more baggage than Samsonite.
Taking any of those folks as a running mate is like signing his own LITERAL death warrant. The oligarchs would cap him day one and welcome to President Bachman aka Apocalypse Now.
We already had President Johnson. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'....
'Swhy Poppy Bush, a serious bad ass, picked Dan Quayle, who was standing behind the dooor when they passed out the brains.
Ron Paul is already 74. Much more than most presidiential candidates, he will need a running mate that would be considered an ecceptable president him/herself.
Bachman is b@sh*t insane, and Caine has shown himself not to have actually read the constitution.
I'd like Cain, Gingrich (He knows how the sausage is made), Johnson of NM, another libertarian. Frankly, a running mate would be difficult. He will not tolerate a RINO or statist of any sort.
However, he needs to get the nomination before any of this starts. That's a long shot.
Then there's that other little Huntsman problem: he's a personal crony of B.H. Obama.
Huntsman's a Mormon, that means he's pretty much nuts: magic decoding hats, etc. etc.
Huntsman is endorsed by Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild. 'Nuff said.
With Republicans like Huntsman, who needs Democrats??
@kito, blano
exactly my point. pair huntsman with ron we will break the 2 headed 1 brain monstrosity we call the bipartisan system.
@nascent
newt is like general patton, he doesn't know PR and he can't keepth his mouth shut
@milliondollarbonus
that's pretty elitist; point 1-4 are pluses i don't have any problem with them.
ron needs a running mate who has moderating influence; huntsman has a plan for jobs, he can soothe things over with the chinese (in case we default on our financial obligations), he's willing to work with anyone regardless of political affliation; if ron picks one of the other nutters it'll just lead us on the path of revolution and war
We need Ron Paul/Gary Johnson.
Ron Paul/Judge Andrew Napolitano!
How about Ron Paul/Gary Busey?
Now that would be fun to watch.
Lady Rottenchild had a big fund raiser for Huntsman recently. For starters.
Huntsman the younger is an O guy.
Huntsman the elder is one richeous dude who earned his place and fortune the right way and is giving it all away.
Son <<<= the father.
Son .eq. demz favorite candidate.
- Ned
"Huntsman the elder is one richeous dude who earned his place and fortune the right way "
...by selling styrofoam containers to McDonalds and their over 1,000,000,000 served.
God Bless Polystyrene (and the Petroleum from which it's made).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nLiWxmbDNo
R.I.P Polystyrene - OH BONDAGE, UP YOURS!
Wrong, MillionDollarBonus outclassed him.
I liked MDB when he did comedy better. That looked like very sincere dyed in the wool insanity. Here I had thought MDB was working the comedy circuit and this post just makes him look like a fascist idiot and not in a funny way.
Strike one MDB is a comic theory!
Watching his later posts I may have to withdraw this comment. He's either a genius troll who NEVER breaks character or a world class ass. His name always leads me to the former, but damn if that post wasn't out of this world lunatic and bone dry too.
The whole interview was much different than what they showed on the tube last night...
I also thought that the audience was terribly liberal, to the point where there were several crickets when there should have been an audience reaction... Didn't help that the audience was primarly Teachers from all over the country
That's because it's New Fucking York (aka Babylon).
Canucks need to go here: http://dailyshow.thecomedynetwork.ca/#player-area
What happened yesterday with the Obamacare appeal? Was the full 11th court petitioned for review or was is tossed to SCOTUS?
By the way, where is the fucking coverage of NYPD stating they have agents worldwide and the ability to shoot down aircraft? No goddamn mention anywhere, well except "fringe" sites.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/can-the-nypd-shoot-down-a-plane-...
I saw that NYPD article on the front page of that "fringe" site Yahoo yesterday.
and Drudge
and NY Post
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ray_flight_of_fancy_eWgKINaGmp7aOwc00...
Add Congressional Record, AttackWatch and Whitehouse.gov,
It was covered on Fox Business Freedom Watch yesterday.
love rp - stewart unwatchable...
A whole bunch of FED questioning could be happening right now on Ron's watch.. Yet he does nothing..
He's an empty suit. Tea Party is stuck in the monkey trap..
He's questioned the Bernank himself, what exactly do you want him to ask that hasn't already been asked?
He could shake down the rest of the Board for starters.. Then call in JPM and GS and ask them some questions.
I actually do like the guy. But running for POTUS on integrity with the constitution in your back pocket won't win an election.. Not in this environment of truly scumbagish politicians. Ron simply can't compete, he doesn't have it in him..
Instead of wasting time running, or writing books, he should be soliciting questions from the public of who and what to ask.
As it is he'll keep running, not get the nomination, and retire from congress.. Having missed the opportunity of his lifetime to expose FED inter-workings more then anyone there could.
I hope to see one more Obama/Ben show.. If there is to be a crash. It might as well end spectacularly..
ya you're right, he should just ask questions to which people would plead the 5th instead of running for president where he could actually make any kind of meaningful changes...
That's what focus groups are for :p
#41
Or he could spend all fucking day asking me questions.
What are you talking about? There are countless tubes of Ron grilling the Bernank. The Bernank sits there sweating with quivering lips and voice in fear of Ron's questions.
Who wrote the "Audit the Fed" legislation?
Who wrote the book "End the Fed"
WTF have you done to get rid of the cartels?
you don't actually believe that the masses will get a chance to vote for anyone who could possibly challenge the bankers? Ron Paul is a hoax and its all show. The game is rigged, the people lose no matter what. His candidacy is a set up, for what, I am not totally sure yet. but it should be obvious by now to everyone that the banker elites only offer the illusion of choice.
I have been following Ron Paul for 15 years.
A hoax? Sorry. Wrong. Ron Paul is not a hoax.
The game is rigged? The people lose no matter what? That I agree with. But RP isn't part of the game. And maybe something will change.
i/d/k, methinks RP is a part of the Game and loves the Game. where i think RP is different is that he plays the Game like those who do not care for the Game would play the Game if they would choose to play. if all of THIS is an illusion, then maybe the only thing that matters then is how one maneuvers through the dream.
heheh, you pulled me out of stealth tip e.
if one can truthfully answer the question: how long has RP been a Rep. politician?
then yes, he's definitely part of the Game, whether he "cares" for it or not.
as to what his role might be - he's giving "hope" to his fans, who will dominate the discourse as they rally to vote, yet a-fuckin-gain. . . I watched this with Obama, people who didn't ever vote having home-parties to rally the votes (and the monies), and this is the SAME, just for the other fictitious "side" to have a turn.
RP will be SEVENTY-SEVEN years old on election day. of course, his son will benefit greatly from the publicity, but I doubt there will be a chance for him to run for head of the class, as this place will be chaos sooner rather than later.
(p.s. folks - all the way to *here* in the thread, zero mention of the abortion issue - dudes much?)
haha, aura, i see the spell worked ;~)
also saw this with 0. but it was easy to see right thru him if one listened carefully to what he actually was sayin. RP not so transparent to me yet, tho one should never discount personal unconscious cognitive dissonance. fool me once...you know how that goes.
as for abortion issue, see deeper down in the thread for sumthin to chew on...
This is where you conspiracy types outsmart yourselves. You think he thinks I think but we don't think so the real stuff appears to be real but is not real because the real stuff behind the apparently real stuff is making it look real...blah...blah..blah.
At some point you need to make a judgement call and go with it. If you like what he says, support him and give him a chance. Then build evidence about what he really represents. If you think he's a schill, yet agree with his ideas...what the hell are you going to do?
The last libertarians were at the founding of the nation. Let's try those guys again.
holy retard...this guy hasnt changed his stance or views for about 2 decades...probably the most consistent politician out there
The only thing Ron Paul has ever 'flip-flopped' on is his stance on the Death Penalty. He used to be in favor of it - but with the advent of DNA he's realized too many innocent people have been put to death. And he realized how hypocritical it is to be pro-life and pro-death penalty.
And you whisper on, "go back to sleep."
I'm extremely dubious about any kind of publicity Jon Stewart gives to Ron Paul. I'd bet my silver stack that Stewart just wants raise up another Perot to split the Republican base as much as he can, and let Obama win by default.
Quite possible, but there's always the off chance that it would backfire.
Besides, if the alternative is Romney or Perry, what have we got to lose?
or he thinks that ron paul would be a great guest on his show, generate alot of hits and publicity and just make for a very good episode...
and he didnt exactly give him good publicity, he was discrediting alot of what ron paul was saying and he somewhat makes him sound like a looney at times
+1
Oh for shit's sake.
The guy is a comedian- and if you can lighten up for a minute, he's actually pretty funny, and does a better job interviewing his guests than most of the mainstream.
Not everyone is part of some secret agenda to destroy you. As Freud said, Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Prome - how 'f'd is it that the only one doing the serious interviews is ... the comedian?? No need for MSM to do any heavy lifting and everyone can chuckle when fed the bad news.
It's like some mind-warp left out of movie Brazil
You probably enjoy Jon Stewart.
ron fuckin" paul.....
Refreshing to see the respect and honest dialog about some very serious topics. Why can't we have this kind of real discussion on a national level? Great stuff! Thanks for posting this - I've sent the link to many people!!
Imagine having someone in the WH that actually understands basic economics, human nature, and has an honest desire to do the right thing for this country! Go Ron and good for Jon!!
paul/tylers
yeah, thats the ticket...
Ron Paul/Steven Tyler?
Refreshing to see the respect and honest dialog about some very serious topics. Why can't we have this kind of real discussion on a national level? Great stuff! Thanks for posting this - I've sent the link to many people!!
Imagine having someone in the WH that actually understands basic economics, human nature, and has an honest desire to do the right thing for this country! Go Ron and good for Jon!!
Ron Paul to Bernanskum: "I'm the MFWIC...mother fucker what's in charge"
(new favorite movie line: Killer Elite)
...saw the interview, just to see how Paul would get treated by Stew, it reconfirmed why I don't care for the pathetic ''Daily Show'' or most of the current comedians. I would rather gaze upon a Banzai Tree. Lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7bNfbbtACs
Stewart giving Ron Paul airtime helps Obama by highlighting the fundamental split inside the Republican vote between the middle class and the corporates.
However it's still good to see him get time to talk.
...it's always good to hear the Truth spoken, even if it's done from the black hole of the Daily Show dipshits. Stewart did not ''give'' a thing to Ron, Paul gave them exactly what they wanted, a higher rate of return than they would get from the typical dipshits that they invite and get lesser ratings from. Stew is shrewd, he is not going to vote for Paul. Lol. Did you hear Stew saying he will, or that he voted for Paul last time around? Lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jArBBx2zINA&feature=related
our numbers indicate that ron is likely it win and we hope that he does. just what we need. the soft on tyranny policy will have to go though.
http://expose2.wordpress.com
Ron Paul 2012 FTW Bitchez
looking forward to watching this
This is a candidate that will produce real "Change"...
Yes. The question is, are Americans ready for that 'Change'? Can you take responability for your life as well everyday choices you make?
Time will tell.
No. amerikans are ascairt to death of that nasty old LIBERTY thingy. The rapidly disappearing "greatest generation" is being replaced by the "worst generation". RIP
The "Greatest Generation" failed to destroy the FED after it threw us into the first great depression. I think that removes them from contention for greatest generation, I still think that goes to the founding fathers generation.
#41
Valid Point. But somebody is going to end up having to take responsibility for the current spending spree... and impeachment isn't going to be enough.
That's secondary. The point right now is, that US cannot go bust ending as it always does in case of empires, with biggest war of all times nor EU should broke into pieces.
And I can assure you, behind the scene there are forces that were very close accomplishing new “narration” if you know what I mean by that. Overall, both projects - in the long term - are good, though theirs foundations are based on fraud, political and financial corruption. To be frank, by looking at the BIG picture ... into the future, I am very optimistic what I see. The question is, do the "shareholders" want the same?
And one more thing. As the old saying goes. Never bet against America as well American People and their wisdom to make right decision in right time and never underestimate European Solidarity in time of need. We'll come out from this mess much stronger and better at least spiritually. But first, short term pain for long term gain for Europe as well (less) United States.
And here we go again. Funny how you can look into the future while refusing to look into the past.
Sorry, you don't know a shit. "BIG picture"...this is ridiculous. And sad.
Read the law that governs your life! And fuck your "optimistic" "wisdom".
"Funny how you can look into the future while refusing to look into the past."
This is the reason I am so optimistic. I did may historic due diligence and not only that. It took me quite some time. Question is did you?
Read the law that governs your life! And fuck your "optimistic" "wisdom".
Well, That's your point of veiw. Go to nearest pharma and buy prozac. You'll feel much better..... or just buy new Ipad!
I'd rather have 6 million people in my state set the rules and regs that I should live by than several dozen Investment Bankers--- of one nationality--- on Wall Street do it.
Glass-Steagall would never have been overturned nor would CFTC trading rules been changed to favor only Goldman Sucks and a few others in secret, "creating" the biggest destruction to global wealth---not destruction, but a confiscation moving tens of billions in bonuses to the Stephen Freidmans, Lord Blankfeins, and the other members of the Tribe---in history.
And right now they are concocting ways to do it again on some other asset.
It's not so much what I personally want but I think I could get 1,000,000 voters to agree that Investment Banks should be forbidden to take my pension and retirement funds and pyramid them into a ponzi scheme which will bust me out while they pay themselves billions of that money for failing utterly. Banks need to return to Glass-Steagall, state by state, or region by region, because the Investment Banks can convert to bank holding companies at the drop of a pen and have the taxpayer absorb not only their losses but then the monstrous bonuses they pay themselves.
Are you ready for that "Change"? Since this is (once again) about Ron Paul, I would like to repeat my question nobody replied to the last time:
If his brother Wayne is right and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is only a corporation installed to process the bankruptcy of the United States of America, then Ron Paul would be nothing more than another corporate whore, wouldn't he?
Please refer to this video, starting at 0:30min:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws
Wayne quote:"[...] and you and I and our children and our children's children were pledged as collateral on the debt of our government to the Federal Reserve. And that's where we're at today. Took 20 years to make this country bankrupt and since then our government has operated under emergency powers [...]. How do they get away with it?"
I love this shit...
How would anyone be ready for future "Change" when noone tries to understand the changes that happened in the past?
Seriously, "how do they get away with it?" They made it the law!
Ever consider laws can be repealed? Or, if onerous, ignored? If a law is not enforced, is it still a law? Is the law legal, or lawful?
Plus, corporations can be broken up, or corporate papers rescinded....
One name - JFK.
Enjoy.
Ron Paul getting JFK'd = 1776.
Ron Paul not getting elected = 1776.
There is a pattern developing here.
You'll be gunned down and not even remembered in the history books of a New World Order.
Naw, in the newspeak history books Paul would be labelled a Nazi terrorist Islamfascist KKK racist. He's white afterall.
Right... Like the Afghans have been defeated by the British, Soviets and US... oh wait...
Um, what?
And this spells out Boobies, on my calculator when turned upside down = 5318008.
If he finds a way to completely disregard the other 2 branches of government, yes, we would be able to do so.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one, however.
...no my friend, more to the ''point of order'', Paul would attempt to restore order if we could prevent him from getting assassinated by the usual suspects. The Light of the Truth does not ''change''. The ''change'' we are now suffering is based on the same (usual suspects) ''new world order'' globalist bullshit now being sold as ''change'' to the deceived dipshits that think The Truth is choice and have fallen for the offer of temptation. The Government has not issued orders to the Military etc... to serve the Republic, under the Constitution, for which it stands. The Fed is still fiat freaking and the flesh in the field is still falling for it ...without any possible rate of return beyond destruction and death. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdsQu99XLrw&feature=related
OK. I am counting all entries. We'll see, how fast will you fill first page.
Time 16:35
Entries: 5
Paul/Christie
That's a winning ticket!
On a side note, does anyone else want to punch BoB Pis-on-you in the F'ing face. If that shitbird says, "3 day rally!" one more time...
I would prefer to see a camera pan with only good ole Bob's shoes at the top of the screen, lazily twisting in the A/C.
My personal fantasy ticket and a way Paul could "outnigger" Uncle Tomobama....drum roll...
Paul/McKinney '12
I like what Ron is saying but the question is ... how would he implement all of those points concidering our genocidal senat and congress.
One thing is to say, another is to do it. Look at the BO, promissed the world to the people- delivered nothing.
Path to hell is build with good intentions.
He wouldn't. He would do what he could in the short time he will be there, but he will reverse what is happening and get the vector pointed in the right direction. What do you want? A dictator?
Today, i would prefer a dictator, all those half efforts don't bring the result, if it cant be done in 1 presedential term- it may be very well reversed on the next one.
Our democracy looks cool on paper.
Some1 with strong balls has to come in and change it.
Yeah, but which way does his dick swing?
More likely it hangs to the left and fascism, the way we are going, than to the right and freedom.
"left and fascism" "right and freedom"
dumb much?
"Today, i would prefer a dictator"
The Sheeple Have Spoken. So Sayeth The Shepherd, So Sayeth The Flock!
"Today, i would prefer a dictator..."
Holy fuck, that is disturbing on many levels.
I'm pretty sure if we sterilized your gene pool, we'd be a lot better off.
Woman to Ben Franklin, outside Constitutional Hall: "Mr. Franklin, what kind of government do we have?"
Franklin to woman: "A Republic, if you can keep it."
erm, "woman" didn't have a say in the "Republic" as Mr. Frank didn't acknowledge her humanity way back then.
Itz the only way. Coming soon, to a country near U.
I'D HAVE no problem with a dictator that had the people he governs as his first concern, and not instead, the contributors, a mere handful of people which have rendered our Democratic Republic extinct anyway.
It's a testament to the power of the elite to have the masses, for decades now, THINK that their vote actually matters when it is a complete waste of time.
Better a benevolent dictator than a few fat-cat plutocrats rigging the system to favor only themselves and who won't give it up unless it's by a dictator with awesome power to take it away from them.
I'll have neither please...
Be careful what you wish for - there's a dozen Caesars for every Cincinnatus.
A benevolent dictator? Sheesh--I'm pretty sure that Pol Pot thought he was doing exactly the right thing for his people.
He doesn't have to do much. The veto pen is mightier than the sword.
Question: doesn't the Federal Reserve charter expire within a few years (during Paul's first term)? A stroke of the pen could slay the beast!
That and the ability to remove prior EO's even though he's stated that he would not want to use them at all to make policy. As CiC he can recall troops effectively closing down theatres and stopping instances like Libya and probably bases for that matter, although I think Congress has a hand in that as well. Would be interesting too if he yanked our commitment to NATO and moved to throw the UN off-shore somewhere. It's going to be interesting to watch what happens with him and also see what the rumors on Christie bring to the GOP pool. RP 2012
Yeah, because becoming the only 1st world nation without a central bank would be awesome for investor confidence in America.
Massive and crippling capital account outflow FTL!
no, a strong and stable currency (sound money) invites hordes of capital into the country. Ron Paul has pointed this out numerous of times.
You believe the FED is worthy of existence after debasing our currency 98% since its inception?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHP2Jw_Zo5o
Yeah, because that's worked so well since 1913 and the ECB is doing a 'bang up job' in the EU. And frankly where's the need for investor capital from overseas if the US has a strong economy and currency? Do you know jack shit about economics? Troll on loser...
Fractional reserve banks commit fraud. The cashier's checks they issue are fraudulent. If you write bad checks in excess of the amount you possess, you are committing the crime of fraud even if the recipients don't cash them in all at once and discover the fraud.
This is no less criminal than other bailment operations (e.g. grain elevators or private storage companies) that lend your items away hoping you don't try to redeem them.
Such criminal outfits should be shut down, along with the Fed and FDIC.
Fractional reserve banks also harm the economy. Creating vast amounts of credit money causes inflation and instability. Creating social tokens of exchange does nothing to bring real goods into existence.
There can be banking without fraud: money warehouses.
I think initially they had a 100 year charter, but if i'm not mistaken sometime in the seventies congress voted to remove the charter altogether and make the fed permanent. I've been a Ron Paul supporter since 08, the more I watch and see how they treat him on the MSM though, the more I realize they are never going to let him win. I'm just wondering why they even allow him to speak still concidering how big of a thraet he is to there status quo?? I fear his only usefulness to the PTB is that if you support RP, then they know who the dissidents are, we may just be marking ourselves for the round up. IMO
Any sources to back up that? genuinely curious, cause i see the 99 year charter brought up a lot but never this point.
Let me shed some light: only an act of Congress can end the FED. That, or a "forfeiture of franchise for violation of law."
The original Federal Reserve Act of 1913 did indeed provide for expiration of the corporate "power" of the twelve Federal Reserve Banks to exist in 20 years from the banks' organization (not the adoption of the Act).
However, this 20-year corporate life was changed to perpetual in 1927 by the Act of Feb. 25, 1927 (44 Stat. 1234) as follows:
This is codified in the United States Code, Title 12, Chapter 3, Subchapter IX, § 341. See:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode12/usc_sec_12_00000341----0...
To re-cap, the FED operates in perpetuity, or "until dissolved by Act of Congress or until forfeiture of franchise for violation of law."
"I've been a Ron Paul supporter since 08, the more I watch and see how they treat him on the MSM though, the more I realize they are never going to let him win. I'm just wondering why they even allow him to speak still concidering how big of a thraet he is to there status quo??"
And how big a threat is he, really?
I like Dr. Paul, and wrote him in in 2008 (he wasn't even on the ballot in my area.) But, even if he wins in 2012 by a landslide, he can't change the world overnight by himself. A politician with less scruples might be able to- but we're talking about a guy who does not wish to use executive orders, and advocates following the Constitution. Unless he has a super-majority of congress to back him up, his power will be somewhat limited.
More likely, Dr. Paul is a safety valve of sorts for the existing system- I actually believe that he means what he says, and is not a treasonous puppet playing a role, but that does not mean that he isn't being used as a method of control without his knowledge.
My assertion is that TPTB use a policy delphi method (http://is.njit.edu/pubs/delphibook/ch3b1.pdf) to control the outcome of elections by offering choices that are just plausable enough to act as pressure-relief valves, but not overwhelming enough to raise enough flags to spark outright revolt if the real results are buried.
In this case, it needs to be assumed that the method is being used as a means of control, and not as an earnest attempt to build consensus on policy. Here's how it works- the initial phases of the political process are actually open to anyone who can meet the minimum criteria, and those candidates enter into the race to win their party's primaries. Debates are held in public forums, and then methods of voting on the results of the debates are made availible to either a selected group (straw poll) or to the public at large. The questions are phrased and controlled in a way that limits any real debate on issues, and reduces the process to a virtual horse-race.
As in any election, the most important factor in the process is who counts the votes. In the past, polls had a little more time to be analyzed and released in a sanitized format, but the recent advent of web polls with real-time results has really not been controlled yet. That is why we're now seeing polls where Dr. Paul is winning by huge margins, right before the results are yanked or moved to an obscure corner of a website- it's not what they're intending, just what they're failing to control.
I'm going to narrow the scope of this, as it's easier to explain on a smaller scale. Let's say you wanted to create a study group that you could force to reach a specific conclusion, but wanted to preserve the illusion of democracy. As a for instance, let's say that you want to create a result that says that 70% of people support abortion in a randomly selected segment of the population.
To do it, you would randomly select 100 people, and keep the selection process honest. You would then put those 100 people into a room where they would be exposed to speakers who represent the "for" and the "against" viewpoint. After the presentation, you would then break the group into 10 smaller groups for further discussion, and allow each smaller group to vote by secret ballot at the end of the discussion period. After voting, you could then collect the results, and move to a different location to count them, promising to release the results of the vote at a future period- perhaps the next day. There is no need to even look at the results, you can then create any result you like, and everyone who voted will attest to the fairness of the proceedure.
There is another variation on this, where debate is held in the full group using a minimum of three to four shills. Four shills can inject enough doubt into a group to make any result appear to be valid. The trick is to seperate the four into the four quadrants of the crowd, and ensure that they each have the opportunity to speak in favor of the desired result. People will tend to turn their heads to look at the person who is speaking, and this creates the illusion of being surrounded by opposition reinforced by the physical action of rotating one's head.
The psychology works because the participants see what they consider to be a transparent and fair system- they can see that the group is random, they have been presented with information that expresses the views of boths sides of the argument, they were allowed to discuss what they had heard with others, and they cast a vote. When the results are released, no one who participated can refute the findings, because even if every group of 10 built a consensus that voted "against," they have no way of knowing that everyone cast a vote that was in line with the group consensus, and, more importantly, they have no idea what discussion or consensus the other 9 groups engaged in.
The delay of results ensures that the discussion of the event immediately afterwards would be speculative at best, and it is not very likely that anyone will take the time to speak to all 100 of the other participants and record the results. The random selection ensures that the participants will not easily or accidently find one another when the results are released to take notes.
After being subjected to this technique, most people may not change their mind about the subject at hand, but they will be far more likely to accept a result that is at odds with their personal convictions because they believe that it is the will of the majority.
Having Dr. Paul in the debate allows people who would otherwise be very restless and angry to be mollified slightly, as they can at least look back and reminice about how they had their say, and only lost because others are ignorant. It shifts the blame away from the people who committed the fraud, and redistributes it to the others in the focus group.
The only way he is going to win is if he builds an absolutely overwhelming momentum that can't be silenced by any means, and has his supporters watching and auditing every polling station. TPTB have ways of working around this, and if they can, they will.
My best prediction is that Dr. Paul will get very close to getting either the presidency or the GOP nomination- which it is will depend on how much of a valve TPTB feel they need to keep the process civil. It will turn into an apparent dead-heat right up to a photo-finish, in which Dr. Paul loses by an incredibly slim margin. They'll recount at least once, but it won't change the result. They don't care what we want- this is just pagentry to make it seem as though we are getting what we vote for.
your comment's pure gold, prom
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Daily Show "Exclusive" = MSM "Excluded"
You gotta love the power of the "alternative media"...... more people take Stewart seriously than they do the talking hairpieces (you notice?..it's creepy) at Fox
Kudos to Stewart for sticking the middle finger to the MSM and giving Ron Paul camera time. This can be a great country again when we ditch the Feds, CBs and their media lap dogs.
Stewart's motive ...split the Republican vote.
Oh! Wouldn't that suck. The entire crew of candidates absolutely blow. I can't (won't) vote for any of them in good conscience. If Paul doesn't make it I am staying home thank you very much.
..at least that's what the redstate and new republic types would have you believe.
Fear! It's what for dinner!
Same old left/right pardigm that gets trotted out whenever another alternative is presented.
How does it split the Republican vote to influence the primary, exactly? The Republican vote is already split, but they're only running against one another to see who gets to run in the Presidental race with party backing. If Dr. Paul wins the primary nomination, any other candidate that splits off to run as an independant will be the "vote splitter-" not the endorsed candidate.
Anybody know how this can be seen in Ireland?
Mozilla Firefox and use an addon called 'stealthy'. Works a treat, it simulates your IP as being from the country where the video is streamed.
Thanks.
Looks like I'll have to load Mozilla Fox.
Firefox "stealther" add-on. First it said not available for 4.0.1. I update to 7.0 and it STILL said not available. I would sure like to use it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcrybSxF_Vg
Thanks.
That's easier than loading Mozilla Firefox.
Much appreciated.
Both.
Thanks again.
Got a fair crack of the whip there.
I suspect the reason that MSM won't give him air time is that he would make mince meat out of the rest of the GOP contenders and then eat Obama for breakfast.
No probs, I'm an avid Ron Paul fan too even though i'm from England. I guess it's because in England we don't have 1 respectable politician
What about Nigle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6bVckO_CM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNDKzqZh768
You beat me to it. Who is Van Rumpy the Dishrag?!? Where did he come from? Out of no-where. Just like our current POTUS. Very entertaining.
you also have Daniel Hannan. Remember "devalued prime minister of a devalued government"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
And as Perry sinks himself (booze and pills last debate?) and Mitt is trying to be everything to everyone by saying nothing, the cartel desperately pushes Cain, who doesn't really have any answers to many things except 999.
9 pizzas with 9 topping for 9 dollars!
If they ever let Ron speak its over...
Ron Paul is the front runner.
Problem is that they do let him speak but he sounds like a rambling/angry grandpa (I'm talking about at the debates). I don't mind it personally, but it isn't received well by others.
He cannot contain a sheeple/slave paradigm changing meme in a 30 second debate response.
For example when he says "End the Fed" the vast majority don't even know what the fed is, let alone understand how it came to be in 1913, why it came to be, what sound money is, why inflation hurts the poor etc. Go ask someone on the street, "What is the Federal Reserve" and you'll see what I mean.
Again, if the cartel wants to shove their contrived shit down our throats again they are going to be on the receiving end of grandMa Deuce's angry lead spittle.
RANsquawk broke the front page again.
Fuu, your monkey's gun went off. Your hitler guy is bleeding.
Ah, what a relief, hitler guy is gone...
Back to normal.
The significance is this: Paul has enough money and enough mass support so that TPTB begin to regard him as a threat. So the domestication process begins. Incidentally, John Liebowitz' (aka Stewart) bro is a player on Wall St (SEC).
If the US does not elect Ron Paul president next year, then we can all kiss our asses goodbye!
The candidates put forward and promoted by the Wall street/Washington cabal, either 'blue' team or 'red' team are equally useless. Ron Paul is not perfect by any means, but he is the best person for the job, at this critical time for the country to survive and go forward.
Elect Ron Paul and survive or not. Simple.
electing ron paul doesnt mean we are saved. it would just mean the great reset would come quickly and acutely as opposed to a longer, more drawn out implosion. and i mean no disrespect to mr. paul (as he has my vote), its just that this country has reached the point where nobody can make the country's situation necessarily better in the short term. there HAS to be pain before gain. its just a question of whether the country can be honest with itself so that we clean up and move forward.
Exactly, and Paul would likely influence the reset to push power back to the states and local governments, which is a far better outcome than a centralized dictatorship, which clearly is what the TPTB are aiming for.