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JPM Pwns Nancy Pelosi

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Last week we had the mispleasure of suffering a subdural hematoma or 7 after reading CA Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi's formal response to the gas price shock, in which it became abundantly clear that the amount of heavy metals in the California water supply is directly proportional to the insolvency of said state. Yet the only thing better than the resulting cathartic post, which had over 57,000 reads, and hundreds of comments, is JPMorgan doing the very same to what some allege is the most corrupt and incompetent legislator in the history of the US Congress. Which, to our and our readers' utmost delight, is precisely what happened today, when JPM Private Bank CIO Michael Cembalest decided to clinically deconstruct her argument into its constituent utterly insane components. Below we present the carnage.

From JPM Private Wealth

Output from the Congressional Centrifuge

...House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi issued the following press release:

“Independent reports confirm that speculators are driving up the cost of oil, hurting consumers and potentially damaging the economic recovery. Wall Street profiteering, not oil shortages, is the cause of the price spike. In fact, U.S. oil production is at its highest level since 2003, and millions of acres have been cleared for additional development. We need to take strong action to protect consumers from this speculation. Unfortunately, Republicans have chosen to protect the interests of Wall Street speculators and oil companies instead of the interests of working Americans by obstructing the agencies with the responsibility of enforcing consumer protection laws. They have also repeatedly opposed our efforts to end billions of dollars in outdated taxpayer subsidies for oil companies enjoying record profits.


We support efforts by the Obama Administration to expand domestic energy resources, including natural gas and renewable sources like wind and solar that create jobs in America and will end our dangerous dependence on foreign energy supplies. This can be achieved because today, the United States currently has more oil and gas rigs at work than the rest of the world combined, and imports of foreign oil have decreased.


We call on the Republican leadership to act on behalf of American consumers and join our efforts to crack down on speculators who care more about their profits than the price at the pump even if these spikes harm the American consumer and our economy.”

I am of course not going to comment directly on this, for many reasons, including not wanting to spend my days at California’s solar-powered detention facility in Chuckawalla Valley. However, for anyone interested in the specific points raised in this press release, I have included some charts on the unfortunately binding constraints of science and energy economics. Enjoy.

Now let’s get to the interesting part. The press release implies that natural gas and renewable energy can reduce American dependence on foreign oil (“end” is the word used). This is an appealing proposition, particularly with Brent oil prices now 5 times higher than natural gas prices on a BTU basis. So, let’s assume that the US wanted to cease all oil imports from Venezuela, Russia and the Persian Gulf. This would reduce oil imports by ~30%. If Americans still wanted to drive around just as much, absent an increase of 2.8 million bpd in US domestic crude production, electricity would have to replace the foregone gasoline. Ergo: how much wind power or natural gas would be needed, assuming electric cars at 200 watt hours per km? And what policies would be needed on fracking, eminent domain, and subsidies for high voltage direct current power lines to transmit electricity at acceptable loss rates?

Note: the charts below only account for the foregone gasoline component of the imported crude oil. Gasoline is only around 45%-50% of total refined products. The US would also have to come up with suitable domestic or foreign replacements for the rest of the barrel: jet fuel, heating oil, fuel oil, lube oils, asphalt, etc. This topic is often neglected in discussions about reducing reliance on foreign oil: we do a lot more with it than just drive cars.


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Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:23 | 2202793 Rastadamus
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Stupid bitch.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:26 | 2202799 redpill
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I was going to comment but Rastadamus has summed it up more succinctly than I could so I'll just give the ZH brother a +1

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:28 | 2202806 ArsoN
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Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:12 | 2202881 DeadFred
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It appears from the red arrow count that Nancy reads ZeroHedge.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:50 | 2202924 Michael
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That deranged fucking cunt Nancy Pelosi, let me stop right there before I really tell you what I think about that hideous Skeksi whore.

That bitch and everyone else knows exactly why gas prices are out of control.

The Federal Reserve bitches devaluing the dollar, flooding the investment banks and the entire planet with watered down Federal Reserve notes.

See Pelosi in this movie;

The Dark Crystal "Skeksis Dinner"

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:13 | 2202950 Michael
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We should really talk about the insurance industrial complex at some point in time.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:41 | 2202981 Michael
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I just thank the powers of the higher realm for giving me a deepening solar minimum.

Solar maximum for 2011, possible solar minimum for 2012


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 05:15 | 2203000 The Big Ching-aso
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Petrol Pelosi.    Catchy. 




Tue, 02/28/2012 - 11:07 | 2203788 Benjamin Glutton
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 Someone has to be the devil's advocate with so many grunting partisan responses. Let me preface by saying that in this case the devil is in fact both party's. Given that we exist in a dysfunctional managed economy, that our political psychopaths believe they can maintain, is understood by most here but fully appreciated by few. Though Mrs. Pelosi so obviously fails to cite the truth of what is wrong in America today we should not ignore the proper context of her statement born of necessity some 40 years ago.

  The system as we know it is 30 years mired in horrible domestic/global economic policy brought about by the collapse of our governments only viable enemy. Once upon a time our politicos were restrained somewhat by the need to appear benevolent in comparison to the USSR but those days are gone. It seems that we are now the focus of previously restrained malevolence  torching all that we understood America to be while the populace is left to argue over which are arsonists and which are firemen.

 I see much criticism of Mrs. Pelosi but I give her credit for attempting to address a real issue that has been aggravated by our own foreign policy regarding Iran. It was not a free market solution to enact fat finger sanctions against Iran yet many here see no merit in free market balancing CFTC position limits. What has the loyal opposition to offer other than trans-vaginal inspections and Tart Reform Hearings on contraceptives conducted by old white men? Leave our sweet tarts alone! In fairness the pipeline to hell might be helpful but will have only a minor impact and none at all on unnecessary bubbles.

You are here...grab a fire hose and deal with it. Take a look at the links which attempt to define and quantify the oil speculation issue or continue to dream that a selective free market for the few using phony fiat hypothecation and derivatives yields acceptable results in a faux market.

"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves."
-Andrew Jackson

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 12:29 | 2204200 Zymurguy
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Petroleum Jelly Pelosi...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:26 | 2203026 Michael
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The 2012 Pelosi GTxi SS/RT Sport Edition

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:50 | 2203153 schismjism
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the command and control central banks will be joined by the rationing of oil in the not too distant future.....

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 08:24 | 2203188 Fancy_Piglosi
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fucking peasants 

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 08:49 | 2203232 HoofHearted
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It's what you keep trying to do, huh, Nancy?

My, grandma, what a big strap-on you have...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:42 | 2203036 nc551
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She is a sith lord you know, probably paired with Hillary.  Their best media pictures barely hide it.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 09:28 | 2203323 TrulyStupid
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Too much bitch, cunt etc. make these comments seem inspired by the Santorum school of predordained masculine supremacy.

Let's confine our insults to non gender references.. after all there is no extra X chromosome in gasoline. BTW, how do market forces force a rise in prices when demand at the pump for gasoline is off 25% year over year?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 11:59 | 2204045 Matt
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Look at the correlation between central bank balance sheets and net non-commercial WTI contracts. Some of it is investors hedging against inflation, some of it is just pure inflation. There is also the likelihood that global production of oil is declining in a non-transitory way.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 09:28 | 2203324 TrulyStupid
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Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:39 | 2203672 Whatta
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Pelosi is a slunt.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:49 | 2203707 JimBowie1958
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The Federal Reserve bitches devaluing the dollar, flooding the investment banks and the entire planet with watered down Federal Reserve notes.

While I agree that Pelosi is a bitch, I am confused about your point quoted.

If oil is going up solely due to the devaluation of the dollar, then why are nearly all other commodities, except gold silver and a few others, down in price over the last year?

Not trying to start a bunch of shit, just asking about what seems to be a hole in this view you present.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 15:39 | 2205127 Michael
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Inflation in the things you need, deflation in the things you just want cause you don't have a job. 

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:09 | 2202945 AgShaman
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If Nancy keeps "channeling" Hogan's Goat.....they are gonna yank her "private jet to the Climate Conference" priviledges

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:31 | 2202812 rcintc
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That was much better than ANYTHING i could have come up with

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:35 | 2202818 urbanelf
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Stupid bi....   oh, nevermind.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:42 | 2202922 Silver Bug
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Well done. That women is clinically insane.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:25 | 2203025 jeff montanye
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nancy pelosi is neither stupid nor clinically insane.  nor is obama, eric holder, the occ, the sec, the fill in the blank of the crony capitalist system.  nor was the administration that preceded them.

they are self-aggrandizing sociopaths, cynical manipulators of the sadly misinformed and easily "tribalized" u.s. voters.  note still that many posts hit either republican or democratic politicians as if there were a practical difference on such issues as bank fraud, corrupt campaign contributions, endless foreign wars, endless war on drugs, endless coddling of israel, civil liberties destruction, regulatory capture ....  they keep the abortion issue burning to keep the tribes apart, apparently.  works for them.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:19 | 2203130 Colombian Gringo
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Bang on. As long as Americans are trapped into the false left/right republican/democratic paradigm, we are doomed to having the likes of Pelosi ruining our lives whilst enriching hers and the banksters.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 09:33 | 2203336 johnQpublic
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' kill 'em all' as metallica said

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:33 | 2203144 Dane17
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I agree with most of what you said except Pelosi truly does seem to be dumb as a box of rocks.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 09:36 | 2203350 The Andy
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Yeah, she's dumb alright.  Reminds me of a line from Terry Bradshaw:  "I'm so dumb, I had to hire someone to fly my private jet!"

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 12:11 | 2204109 JimBowie1958
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There are many ways of making lots of money and friends that do not require a microgram of intelligence or wit.

Being rich does not prove you are smart or to be envied.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 08:34 | 2203211 connda
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"tribalized" u.s. voters


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 09:34 | 2203345 SofaPapa
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Unfortunately, few people have spent the time or effort to actually look at what a "unit of energy" means.  If more Americans understood how energy is measured and how much energy there is per liter of fossil fuel, we would be able to have an informed discussion, recognizing the extreme technical difficulty in replacing such an energy-dense source.  Instead, politicians traffic in platitudes back and forth at each other, secure in the knowledge that few people understand what they are talking about any more than they do.  Sadly, when people are dumb enough to trust a politician like Pelosi, they are dumb enough simply to accept what she says.  "She's in charge.  She has information we don't have."  Possible only because of what you said: tribalized voters.  Nice phrase that!  If she's against the "others", she must be okay.  Some people are incapable of the reasoning necessary to rationally discuss options, and that's one thing.  But for those who could absorb the information if they simply spent the time and effort to educate themselves... those are the people who are so damned lazy it's just despicable.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:21 | 2203574 SelfGov
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If only we could burn Pelosi and her ilk in our internal combustion engines we'd have the problem solved.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:42 | 2203684 GMadScientist
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Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:56 | 2203739 zanez
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Another point to consider is the poor efficiency of the internal combustion gasoline engine. More energy gets wasted as unburned fuel and heat than gets used by the vehicle.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:45 | 2202831 Problem Is
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"Stupid bitch."


But Barney Frank is an even stupider bitch...

Chris Dodd is an even dumber, stupider bitch...

And Obama Bin Lyin'... The stupid bitch's, stupid bitch...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:44 | 2202925 eatthebanksters
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you're such a racist!    Bwaaaahaaahaaaaa!  

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:58 | 2203748 zanez
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Politicians, Bitchez!!!!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:50 | 2202845 McNoob
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Well put.

Politicians like Pelosi will never hesitate to spout any lie, no matter how stupid or ignorant, if it means she can keep being power broker/pupper master for another day.


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:45 | 2202928 eatthebanksters
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What truly amazes me is that there are so many really stupid people who lap up her bullshit...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:24 | 2202966 AgShaman
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Her sycophants are patiently waiting for the next small idea to come outta her mouth.

I'm betting the gangsters in the "District of Corruption" will talk her into rolling out the first of the "Price Controls" rhetoric.

First comes gas and fuels....then comes food

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 08:28 | 2203194 r00t61
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Come on now, give the good citizens a pass.

Politicians, after all, display nearly all of the same behavioral traits as sociopaths, including glib, superficial charm, and a masterful ability to manipulate people through speech and oratory.  It's no wonder they can make people believe their lies.

After all, whenever the neighbors of a convicted serial killer get interviewed, the reaction is always:

"Oh, but he was such a quiet, nice young man! He helped me carry my groceries in!  There's just no way he could be a serial killer!"

In much the same way, for politicians, it's:

"Oh, but she was such a good speaker, and well-dressed, and she graduated from Harvard!  She sounds really sincere when she talks about wanting to help us little people!  There's just no way she could be a lying politician!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 09:05 | 2203271 Vlad Tepid
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The only people that do live in one half of the smallest "big city" in the US - SF.  Everyone else knows what she is...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:31 | 2202974 FlyPaper
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McNoob:  ELECTIONEERING:  Members of the current ruling party are DEPENDING on the economy not getting worse.  Increases in fuel costs get the public cranky.  This particular administration is well known for blaming everyone else, because it couldn't be the PRESIDENT's policies.  To wit: His present policy of pressuring IRAN is leading to threats to cut off oil supplies; and in fact they have already "cut off" exports to several European countries preempting their imposition of further sanctions.   Environmental policies of current administration = not helping.  Obama even said he wanted the price of oil to rise as part of his environmental scheme.   Add FED printing....

So now we need they need a boogey-man.  In this context Nancy's statements make perfect sense from the political lens.  Remember: we have to pass the bill to see what's in it!   

I wonder if her broom is more enviornmentally friendly than flying a plane back and forth to California at public expense...?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:30 | 2202904 non_anon
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here, here, now to kill some mutants in Fallout 3

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:35 | 2202910 francis_the_won...
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Rasta, this is possibly the best and most accurate comment I've seen in 3+ years of reading ZeroHedge.  Very succinct.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:27 | 2202968 Esculent 69
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This woman has lots of kids. who would fuck this woman? Thing, alien, whatever the hell she is. I still wouldn't fuck it

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:54 | 2203159 Mareka
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"JPM Owns Nancy Pelosi"

They should take her to the Antiques Road Show.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:20 | 2203570 rsnoble
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Cunt Disorderment is more like it.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:26 | 2202801 Scribbles
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Yeah....but....Wall Street is greedy.  So...graphs....Republicans......oil.......

OBAMA 2012!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:40 | 2202919 Bay of Pigs
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"The public sucks, fuck hope".

Campaign slogan, George Carlin.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:15 | 2202954 AgShaman
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That's a Bad Attitude....and you'll never be a part of their Club


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 08:00 | 2203166 BeetleBailey
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1. Apt Nom De Guerre - perfect for the Obamazombies

2. No. Pelosi is greedy. Trouble is, she's permeated your porous brain (what there is of it), with her serial lies and deceit.

3. See cliff. See feet. Run to cliff. Run fast. Jump over.

Good boy.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:27 | 2202805 jubispupper
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The only problem is that we will have no drinking water left in our Nation's water tables with all the fracking!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:46 | 2202838 CrashisOptimistic
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 Whether or not this poster knew what he was saying does not matter.

Don't care about fracking contaminating water table.  That's not likely.  Hugely different depths.


Fracking requires a lot of water.  A LOT of water.  For the fracking process itself.  So the poster wasn't all that wrong.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 08:30 | 2203199 Fedaykinx
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ups for being logical and not buying into the hysteria.


recycling at least some of the water isn't that big of a deal, it just costs more than injection and the equipment isn't readily available yet.  obviously geography and climate are key.  in many areas where shale is produced, water isn't scarce at all.  where i live many operators contract water supplies out of private ponds and lakes, or pay the state to pump out of rivers etc.  the amounts used might sound like a lot, but trust me even a smallish river would never notice.  the daily flow of a decent sized creek would easily have several times sufficient volume for the entire fracturing process of a nearby well.


then there's alternative methods such as using propane instead of water, i have heard results are encouraging but i don't know how expensive it is.


natural gas is a bridge we had better use, because the other ones are either rotten or burning.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 12:13 | 2204120 Matt
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So what you are saying is:

1) the risk of any wells contaminating drinking water, active or shutdown, is 0%?

2) ALL water is ground water; there are NO artesian springs ANYWHERE near any shale? No deep sources of water at all?

As the other poster mentioned, there is water recycling and also methods that don't use water, so water consumption will fall of fairly quickly. Imagine if water cost $0.10 per gallon, how little would be wasted?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:29 | 2202807 i_fly_me
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The pimp hand striketh.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:40 | 2202813 greyghost
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stratfor has sent out an email about the hack job. short is to fucking good...will never close down!!!!!! can't keep a good propaganda machine down for long. now where is the u.s.s. geo. bush the first??????

yes and i wonder how the wicked witch of the west and husband are making out with the business of buying forclosures is going? yep...this pair of slime balls went from war profits since 2001 to the forclosure property business since 2008. wonder how much farm land in the central valley in california they bought up? seeing how she helped shut off the water flow to the valley. we will know when the buying is done...when the water is turned back on!!!!!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:45 | 2202837 Bear
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I'm George Friedman, founder and CEO of Stratfor. 

As most of you know, in December thieves hacked into Stratfor data systems and stole a large number of company emails, as well as private information of Stratfor subscribers and friends. Today Wikileaks is publishing the emails that were stolen in December. This is a deplorable, unfortunate -- and illegal -- breach of privacy. 

Some of the emails may be forged or altered to include inaccuracies. Some may be authentic. We will not validate either, nor will we explain the thinking that went into them. Having had our property stolen, we will not be victimized twice by submitting to questions about them. 

The disclosure of these emails does not mean that there has been another hack of Stratfor's computer and data systems. Those systems, which we have rebuilt with enhanced security measures, remain secure and protected. 

The release of these emails is, however, a direct attack on Stratfor. This is another attempt to silence and intimidate the company, and one we reject. As you can see, emails sent to many people about my resignation were clearly forged. 

We do not know what else has been manufactured. Stratfor will not be silenced, and we will continue to publish the geopolitical analysis our friends and subscribers have come to rely on. 

As we have said before, Stratfor has worked to build good sources in many countries around the world, as any publisher of geopolitical analysis would do. 

We are proud of the relationships we have built, which help our analysts better understand the issues in many of these countries through the eyes of people who live there. 

We have developed these relationships with individuals and partnerships with local media in a straightforward manner, and we are committed to meeting the highest standards of professional and ethical conduct. 

Stratfor is not a government organization, not is it affiliated with any government. The emails are private property. Like all private emails, they were written casually, with no expectation that anyone other than the sender and recipient would ever see them. And clearly, as with my supposed resignation letter, some of the emails may be fabricated or altered. 

Stratfor understands that this hack and the fallout from it have created serious difficulties for our subscribers, friends and employees. We again apologize for this incident, and we deeply appreciate the loyalty that has been shown to Stratfor since last year's hack. 

We want to assure everyone that Stratfor is recovering from the hack. We will continue to do what we do best: produce and publish independent analysis of international affairs. And we will be back in full operation in the coming weeks. We look forward to continuing to serve you.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:53 | 2202850 Problem Is
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Do I really have to suffer from off topic Infomercials now?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:35 | 2202909 Vic Vinegar
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Stardate February 27, 2012: today we learn the CEO of Stratfor doesn't know how to buy gold online.  LOL

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:55 | 2203005 zhandax
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Stratfor is not a government organization

Neither is the Federal Reserve.  You do seem to provide the more available and value-add service though, and we appreciate your allowing Tyler to share it with us here.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:38 | 2202913 crazyjsmith
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"secrecy, the very word is repugnant in a free and open society...

...We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.

...Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment"


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:51 | 2202934 James T. Kirk
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Transparency marks the true strength of any political entity. People can be extraordinarily forgiving, if they are just told the truth in the first place.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 05:53 | 2203082 UP Forester
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How's this for transparency?

The keywords that'll get you flagged by .gov data-miners, and put on a watch list.  How many can you hit?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:20 | 2203131 spankfish
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Two things about computer security Stratfor and you don't understand:



Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:34 | 2202817 Bud Denton
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Fuck yeah! Stupid crooked lying greedy thieving elected democrat bitch from San Francisco.  Doncha just love her?  One more facelift and her nose is going to split right down the middle.  I wish the plastic surgeons could do something about all those turkey wattles in her neck.  She grosses me out.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:20 | 2202890 DeadFred
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Be a little more understanding please. It's a well known fact that Reptilians are very hard on their host bodies. Blame the implant not the host!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:38 | 2202821 cranky-old-geezer
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All people have to do is vote her ass out of office.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:34 | 2202907 Bringin It
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San Francisco also had that creepy war monger Tom Lantos.  Further proof that democracy stopped working.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:40 | 2202825 flyonmywall
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Every time Pelosi opens her mouth, it's either some deluded lie, or some idiotic speech.



Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:49 | 2202841 Problem Is
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That face lift is so tight I don't think that idiotic pie hole opens per se...

But on the other hand... it never closes...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:40 | 2202827 Bear
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I see nothing wrong with Ms. Pelosi statement ... it is precisely what Mr. Obama and most liberals believe. They neglect to understand that we live in a world of greedy, evil speculators that happen to live in almost every other country in the world. She is just quoting the Democratic talking points of 'evil oil' vs. the common man and we (Pelosi, Reid, Obama) have done more to get oil flowing that any other administration (ever)!

Just remember that it's Bush’s' fault ... not one iota of a thought that Greenspan and the Bernack had anything to do with it. This purposeful obfuscation is the evil we are now forced to live with.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:39 | 2203033 jeff montanye
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of course it's bush's fault, and reagan's and ghw bush's (and clinton's and obama's).  who appointed and reappointed greenspan?  first reagan, then the rest at four year intervals.

who appointed/reappointed bernanke?  g.w. bush, then obama.


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:40 | 2202828 PrintPressPimpin
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Kinda hard to beleive that she is perpetually elected here.  I talk lots of politics and I dont think i have met one person other then my grandma who has ever voted for her.  She is a parasite that there is no cure for.  she just wont go away or get sick and die.  I would strongly advise folks to look into getting a cord or two of wood stacked up and ready.  I sell a little firewood to help pay for my gas and always explain to people how in a grid down scenario you can use the firewood to cook any food you might have.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:37 | 2202980 Raymond Reason
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She is the mightiest fundraiser in congress.  That's how she keeps her seat at the table. 

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:44 | 2202829 bob_dabolina
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Her constituents can blame her for paying some of the highest prices at the pump in the country.

On natural gas I have a friend who works in the industry out in PA and says they have so much natgas they have no where to store it so they end up just burning a lot of it.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:43 | 2202834 rehypothecator
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Is Michael Cembalest the one honest and honorable person in the den of putrid lying psychopathic soul-less criminals which comprise that lesser vampire squid otherwise known as JP Morgan?  Because the article seems spot on, although they happily raped the MF Global customers as well as homeowners and a lot of other people in their rather criminal-yet-quotidian way of going about their business.   

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:49 | 2202844 tdogg
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she might be a stupid Biatch.

but she's also a dumb cunt.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:29 | 2202970 Vic Vinegar
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8 greens to zero as of this moment.  Really?

You know, I have this weird fantasy whereby Tyler gets to see all the greens and reds we give people and kicks people out accordingly.  

Maybe that fantasy won't come true, but here's to hoping your fantasies won't come true either!  LOL

Thanks for nothing, tdogg.  It's been anything but special.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:03 | 2203004 UP Forester
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Tue, 02/28/2012 - 10:19 | 2203549 Doña K
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Vic Vinegar's avatar implies sour push and savoir douche

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:47 | 2203038 DevilsPrinciple
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"8 greens to zero as of this moment.  Really?

You know, I have this weird fantasy whereby Tyler gets to see all the greens and reds we give people and kicks people out accordingly.  

Maybe that fantasy won't come true, but here's to hoping your fantasies won't come true either!  LOL

Thanks for nothing, tdogg.  It's been anything but special."


Vic Douchewash

At the rate your reds are stacking up,Vic your fantasy should come true for you in about 15 minutes. 

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 06:05 | 2203088 Lednbrass
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Arent you the twerp who wants to be hall monitor?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:50 | 2202847 alfred b.
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I think she deserves to be mounted....I mean by a taxidermist, of course!     Along with probably many others from congress.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:07 | 2202876 bonin006
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Thanks for clairifying your statement. At first, I thought you were proposing something vile and disgusting.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:17 | 2202885 Problem Is
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"I think she deserves to be mounted"

At your own risk alfred...

Like I have said before... The only thing tight on Pelosi is that face lift...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:51 | 2202933 eatthebanksters
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shes should end up in the dogfood factory...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:56 | 2202995 Vic Vinegar
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Why are so many of you grey bags unable to write proper English?  

Trying to find a grey bag who knows how to write is like trying to find an honest Jew or an intelligent black amongst the ZH crowd.

/joking for some; an all-too-real truth for others

Anyhow, keep on logging onto ZH with an "eatthebanksters" ID, you lunatic.  Do you do that before or after your first Eggo of the day?

Inquring minds want to know, you know.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:04 | 2203009 UP Forester
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Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:15 | 2203018 Vic Vinegar
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You are a great commenter on ZH, UP Forester.  Keep commenting b/c you have great stuff to offer and there's more to life/ZH than just being witty.

I mean that in all sincerity.  And believe you me, I'm looking for a fight right now!  

Until then, I offer this:

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:31 | 2203029 UP Forester
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Danke schoen!  Ich kanne einer bischen werden schreiben!

Where's the umlaut button, again!

Well, at least we know your boss hires the handicapped 'cuz they're fun to watch!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:24 | 2203024 Vic Vinegar
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I love how I got junked but "eatthebanksters" did not.  Sure!

Tyler, either "eathebanksters" is total bullshit or I am.  There is no middle ground.   

Here's another classic Yoopers song to listen to while you think on this.

History will be our judge, bitchez!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:12 | 2203125 jcaz
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Most of the edgy people on here are interesting...

You're just boring.....


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:51 | 2202848 adr
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As just a hypothetical. Only allow actual producers and consumers of a barrel of crude to trade for one month and see what the volumes are. The average contract changes hands what, 10,000 times before it finaly ends up in the hands of a refiner? Are we supposed to believe that this does nothing to the price?

One company I worked for bought its product from an international division of the company, which bought it from the manufacturer. The US division then sold the product to distributors which then sold it to retailers. A product that cost less than $1 to manufacture ended up with a wholesale cost of $14 with a $32 retail. That is how chinese garbage ends up selling for a lot of real money.

The price ended up becoming massively inflated because too many hands touched the product. Commodity contracts aren't any different. Yes demand would have sent the contract higher than $30 per barrel but it probably wouldn't have even come close to touching $50.

When oil started its climb I remember reading stories posted by oil companies stating it would be profitable to drill for oil anywhere on earth at $40 per barrel. Somehow that price kept going up once oil skyrocketed above $40 on its way to $147. All of a sudden what cost less than $30 couldn't be pumped out of the ground profitably for less than $60. But, if you were in their place you would probably change your story as well. Why not fib in the age of the 30 second attention span. You guarantee yourself massive profit for that nasty obligation to maximize revenue for shareholders.

I also remember reading a story saying that middle east oil was sold to the international exchange for less than $9 barrel, which made sense when oil traded on the exchange for less than $20. When oil started its massive rocket ride the midle east nations lobbied for an increase. They got $15 set as the price. I don't know if that is true. What I do know is the cost of $6 per barrel to pull out of the ground told to me by an engineer friend of mine working for Exxon hasn't really changed that much.

$90 cost to pull oil from Bakken shale is pure propaganda.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:23 | 2202893 Catullus
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Cost does not equal price. It never has.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:42 | 2202923 Axenolith
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First, you cover a timespan in that rant that ignores minimum 75%+ inflation.  Second, it's obvious that you are clueless on the financial and technical mechanics of operating large projects.  One of the things governing whether or not it's PROFITABLE to extract something in a given area and at a given cost is how and when a competitive concern will firehose product onto the market to destroy your initial investment.  There is a large intitial outlay on bringing a large area into production.  You NEED $90/barrel minimum in an area like the Bakken for X amount of time to manage the risk of possibly having to labor under a depressed price from competitors trying to drive your production off the market (in oil, often by government run companies who are willing to eat losses to keep their market share up) and crush you.

Besides, oil is freakin' cheaper than it has been in history.  You just need to hedge the wealth needed to purchase it in something besides FRNs.  Measured in silver coinage, it costs about $0.15-0.17/gallon.  When it gets over ~$0.32/gallon as measured by that, then you can bitch...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:57 | 2202853 CrashisOptimistic
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JPM doesn't usually do good analysis on oil.

There are a few nits to pick in this one, but overall the graphs are what they are and this is a nice rebuttal presentation to Pelosi.  Too often, though, graphs are presented to mean something they do not and JPM comes close to that here.


"This is an appealing proposition, particularly with Brent oil prices now 5 times higher than natural gas prices on a BTU basis."

Never ever in physics is this a good thing to say.  A barrel is 42 gallons of volume.  Fill it with natural gas at room temperature and 1 atmospheric pressure and your BTU contents is 1/1000th that of one barrel of crude.  Was the price difference based on that?  Or . . . 

But suppose the NG was pressurized and jammed into that barrel.  Or suppose you burned up some energy to cryocool it down so that it becomes LNG.  One barrel of LNG is an appreciable fraction of the crude barrel's BTUs.  Was that the price basis?

Anyway, be careful.


It's always popular to do some oohs and ahhs about how other things derive from oil than just fuels.  Don't ooh and aah too much.  Only gasoline (or diesel) pushes the trucks around that brings food to the shelves.  Only jet fuel pushes jets around the sky.  Only tractor fuel grows food that gets put on the shelves and keeps you alive.

This is why talk of electricity and NGLs and palm oil and coal and nat gas . . . there is no energy crisis.  There is an oil crisis.  Don't always think that when talking about oil you have to talk about energy, too.  You don't.  You can have all the electricity you want, and you'll starve.



Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:46 | 2202929 Augustus
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Convert that barrel of oil to an energy storage basis, #BTU/barrel at STP.

Conver the mcf of NG to an energy storaage basis, #BTU/mcf at STP.

Energy basis is that 7 mcf will be about equal to bbl on a BTU basis.  $100 bbl oil = $15 mcf NG.

Then NG at $3 = about 1/5th of the energy value relative to oil.


Canada followed the Bush plan of Drill Baby, Drill.  It worked and they want to send 800,000 bbl / da to US.

O'Bama won't allow it as it would demonstrate the the idea works. 

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:03 | 2203008 Jim_Rockford
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High-five Augie.  I know it has been awhile...  I guess while I have been gone the Gulf has exploded in a massive mud-fireball and Egypt has accomplished more in a few weeks than the US Military has accomplished in 10 years.

Glad to see someone here is keeping it real.


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:56 | 2202854 cdevidal
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And then I saw this on Chris Martenson's blog:

Never mind the fact that the United States is actually a net gasoline exporter because of lower domestic demand. A contributing factor in the price of oil, and subsequently gasoline prices, is speculation, so in some ways it's all a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's talk of high oil prices that causes high oil prices. Read more...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:03 | 2202866 CrashisOptimistic
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Dood, production of crude&condensate, the good stuff, has been more or less flat since 2006.  FLAT.  No significant increase.  Any talk of increases you see is bullshit "all liquids" talk and all liquids don't power tractors or trucks.  Crude does.  

We've added about 1 billion people to the planet since 2002.  That's 1 / 6 = 17%.  China has 100 million more cars now than in 2002.  India about 50 million more.  Global (not US, GLOBAL) consumption of oil is up a solid 10% over the last 5-10 yrs.  Population is up 17.  Consumption no longer equals demand.  Those extra people want to burn oil And They Can Not.

Jack up consumption of something 10% and produce nothing additional of it and price will go up.  Not only will price go up, the low bidders won't get any.  Demand is greater than consumption.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:25 | 2202895 Problem Is
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Oil Drum had an excellent analysis on that. Since non C&C liquids have less than 70% of the energy as sweet crude... all petroleum liquids have basically hit a plateau since 2005...

See the chart " World liquids in millions of barrels of oil equivalent" in comments. Very interesting analysis...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 06:11 | 2203090 CrashisOptimistic
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The comment threads there are usually better than the articles, but you do have to train yourself to ignore all the climate warming and organic gardening babble.  The site is about oil, and only about oil one would hope, but others try to pimp their agenda on someone else's traffic.

Where have we seen that before?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 01:58 | 2202856 Bear
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Think about this ... Nancy Pelosi was elected Speaker of the House ... what does that say about those who elected her?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:06 | 2202871 bob_dabolina
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"Best argument against democracy is a short conversation with the average voter"

-Winston Churchill

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:26 | 2202900 Problem Is
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It says every bitch needs douche bags...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 05:40 | 2203074 jomama
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you mean Diebold?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 06:37 | 2203106 Boxed Merlot
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Chalk another one up to gerrymandering.


Where's Corzine?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:07 | 2202873 HungrySeagull
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Why get worked up?

I have made peace with the fact that Time itself will heal and bind old wounds. Wait a few years, even Nancy shall be replaced.

Maybe I take her old Job yah?

Cannot do no better or worse than the rest of em suits.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:10 | 2202879 streetcrawler
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If anyone gave a flying fuck, they would have invested a lot more money in the "electric car" after the 1970s gas crisis. My uncle has a book documenting all the cars of the 60s and 70s and all the American auto makers did have electric car prototypes, which I'm sure lead to their immediate firings. Fucking idiots. Nobody needed a 1976 Cadillac El Dorado.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:28 | 2202896 tdogg
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hold on hold on streetcrawler.

a 76 cadillac el dorado is a pretty sweet ride.

as a nation, we flew to close to the sun that's all.  and a 76 cadillac el dorado is a stunning example of that, but she sure is a pretty thing.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:41 | 2202921 snblitz
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Not to mention my 68 Cadillac DeVille Convertable. 472 cu inch engine. got 14 to 17 mpg.   It had factory calibrated cruise control.  You just dial 80, er I mean 65 mph and 65 you went.  And the heater?  It pre-heated before it started blowing out the air, so no cold air blowing on you while you waited for the warm air.  And road safety? 

Heck I crushed some honda thing beyond recognition and could not even find a distortion in the gloss of the mega chrome bumper.   In a nearby town the same model car was stopped at a red light and got rear ended by a semi going 35 mph.  Half the car was folded into the back seat, but the woman driver walked away from the accident.  What car built today offers that kind of protection?

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:15 | 2203127 jcaz
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You must be nicer than I was-  my '70 Convert never got over 12 mpg or so on the highway, and I distinctly recall the glorious 7mpg around town....

Wish I still had it.

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 03:00 | 2207051 HungrySeagull
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That there Friend is honest to god American Steel.

We had a 500 CID caddy in a two door... That thing.. essentially heaven.

At the time we had any number of very large cars to choose from. The heavier and bigger the better.

Not a seatbelt in sight back then and 5.00 filled any of them up at .29 And no choking emissions...

Yes there were tears in mandatory parking practice about the time Compact parking became mandatory in the parking decks of the time.

My buick today will neatly fit into the cabin of a 66 car we had at the time and to park said buick in a tower yesterday required some care.

Frankly to be blunt, today's nice cars are fucking compacts.

And those wonderful old cars were geared to run 70+

They are still around. I took on a Buick convertable filled with kids (LeSabre 4 door barge with what turned out to be a 500+ high torque big block)

I took off reaching for top end on my old Ford with it's Cobra V8 and had no chance. The damn Buick walked away from me and was 1/3 mile ahead by the time I started hitting the right gear and power curve to use the top end.

Even today, the memory of that race was quite clear and educational. Even though the race was already lost. What think it will requires is a winding mountain road or flat open spaces where I can get up into 140 or so and stay there.

Maybe one day when the over the hill gone crazy bites me, I will get something good and enjoy the hell out of it.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:21 | 2202892 oldman
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I recommend that US citizens continue to spend the two years between elections subjected to listening to the promises of the pols in the 'coming election': no vacations, no sick leave, no holidays from this at all.

It has worked so well for the country, guaranteeing a solid uncorruptable system of government that has never been equalled by any other nation.

I have so much confidence and trust in this political system that I no longer find it necessary to vote.


HOORAY                    om

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:27 | 2202901 dcb
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still no mention of federal reserve interst rate policy, the fed remains untouchable.

dem blame banker, banker blame dem, no change, fed priceless.

if raising margins causes prices to drop, by definition speculation plays a role. plus one could argue that if not take delivery speulation a role, according to some assets that don't have an income stream associated with them are by definition speculation

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:38 | 2202915 sbenard
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What else would we expect from Nazi Pelosi?

And we would expect nothing better from President Perfidious, either!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:44 | 2202918 mark mchugh
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"We support efforts by the Obama Administration to expand domestic energy resources, including natural gas and renewable sources like wind and solar"

Excuse me, but when did Obama include natural gas?  I don't even think he said "natural gas" once his first two years in office, and I know he rejected fast-tracking the Keystone pipeline.

I bring this up because with nat gas prices at ten year lows, I might consider a compressed natural gas (CNG) car, like the Honda Civic GX (which would cost 80% less to fuel)....except the nearest open to the public filling station is 30 miles away.   Hell, I'd even consider opening a CNG station myself if I knew where to start.  Great energy policy, Nancy & O!

(and before I get lectured on fracking, let me remind everybody that we had nat gas before fracking and I want people that destroy the enviorment held fully accountable, so don't get the idea that I have a position on fracking one way or  the other.  Don't blame me for fracking and I won't blame you for foreign wars for oil, okay?)

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:51 | 2202932 snblitz
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If you already have NG plumbed to your home you can put an NG to CNG compressor/liquifier in your home for about $2000.  The downside is that now you have to pay for the electricity for the converstion.  Does that make your car electric? /sarc

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 08:31 | 2203201 mark mchugh
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I don't have NG to the home, but thanks for the info.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:45 | 2202926 Vic Vinegar
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Just as I was reading this article a commercial came on my tele with Super Bowl MVP Drew Brees pitching for JP Morgan.

Bullocks I thought!  Surely that could not be true!  No way a good guy from Purdue is pitching for the EE.  But a quick Google search reveals that it is true.  

Not only that, but 3.368 million people like the Morgue's community giving on FB.  

Guess I've been more disconnected with reality than I thought.  How about you?  Check it out for yourself

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 02:47 | 2202930 snblitz
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Go nuke.  4th generation Thorium reactors.  Nice and safe, no weapons grade uranium.  No uranium at all.  It is the only way to free ourselves from Oil and stop tormenting the rest of the world.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 05:06 | 2203054 Ghordius
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+1T - you mean weapon grade plutonium - yes, we should have enough of that stuff for a while

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:00 | 2202937 DevilsPrinciple
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Drew Brees is a second tier QB. Be concerned when Eli Mannng starts shilling for them.

As for Nancy Pelosi there is no torture or form of living death that's too good for that poor excuse for a human bean. Her face could make a freight train take a dirt road on a rainy night.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:08 | 2202943 Vic Vinegar
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Do U know how to reply to me?  'Cuz I think you want to (deep down).

Unless you want to get us off-topic and have it drift into a discussion re: quality of NFL QB's and the quality of Nancy Pelosi's face?

Surely you don't want to get off-topic, DP. I mean, you are a random space-monkey, reading ZH for all the right reasons.  


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:09 | 2203014 UP Forester
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Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:52 | 2203044 DevilsPrinciple
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LOL. Consider the source.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:51 | 2203028 DevilsPrinciple
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Well, Vic, it appears I've hit a sore spot with you. Was I actually replying to you with my remark about Brees or Pelosi? No. but somehow, I think you're offended by my remark about Brees. You must be a Perdue fan ? A Perdue wannabe grad ?

How smart could you POSSIBLY be making this statement ?


" Surely you don't want to get off-topic, DP. I mean, you are a random space-monkey, reading ZH for all the right reasons.


I mean really, Vic, an intelligent person wouldn't be so quick to call others names now would they ? ( Hint : answer is no )

Vic I suggest you evolve a bit more educationally and mentally. Are you capable of evolving, Vic ?

I also imagine you want to discuss Eli's stats vs. Brees stats. There is simply NO comparison. Manning kicks his ass hands down. Why? Manning's won TWO SB's, Brees ( gulp)ONE.( But..but..but...Vic stammers mentally...Breees is a Perdue graduate.) Regardless, you can cite all of the Brees stats you'd like. Eli's won two SB's, Brees ONE. This places Brees in a second tier status having only ONE win in an SB. To deny this, Vic is to deny that  SB wins are the ultimate stat PLUS Manning has beaten Tom Brady ( possibly the best all-time) TWICE. In the ultimate TEAM sport in the ULTIMATE Championship.Brees can't say that . And never will.

This board is often off-topic. If that offends you, I suggest you find another venue to masturbate mentally.

Don't be offended by the fact that you don;t control topics here @ ZH.(I suspect that you will, however) 

I'm sure that you will have some other dumbass comment to direct to me, like your first one. I suspect that you're a defensive anger junkie.

I'm sure your needy passive~agressive response ( not unlike your first one ) will be the confirmation.





Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:11 | 2202946 Youri Carma
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If I would say 'It's too stupid to even respond' I would still respond. So, I won't say 'It's too stupid to even respond'.


Damn! This stuff is weirding me out man!

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 05:38 | 2203072 jomama
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i once said something so stupid they thought i was being sarcastic.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:15 | 2202953 EmileLargo
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The real solution would be state of the art nuclear plants (which are actually nothing like the Fukushima plant built on 70s technology) to replace gas powered plants and then use the gas to replace some of the oil for transport. That, to me, seems the only sensible solution. Renewables won't ever be able to replace gas or coal. But the greens have their unique set of obsessions which leaves us with the choices we have - i.e. no real choices, just hot air and posturing. 

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 09:51 | 2203419 css1971
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Decade of stagflation before they even think of something like that.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:17 | 2202956 Nobody For President
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"JP Morgan pwns Nancy Pelosi"


Pot calls kettle black.


99% ZHers fall for the bait.

Pelosi WORKS for JPM you assholes.

Stand back a few yards from the game - YOU have been pwnd...

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:04 | 2203006 Vic Vinegar
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You should probably STFU right now b/c you've been here a long time despite never saying anything meaningful.  

Pot = kettle black.  Sure, buddy.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:37 | 2203032 DevilsPrinciple
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Project much,Vic ? I suggest that you find employment or a POA of some kind to tone down your passive~agressive behavior. You're rapidly becoming tedious and troll~ish.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:19 | 2202959 A_MacLaren
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You might want to take a look at the Political Games and Misdirected Systemic Liquidity that are also affecting oil prices.

Chris Cook: The Oil End Game

By Chris Cook, former compliance and market supervision director of the International Petroleum Exchange. Cross posted from Asia Times

The end game is about to begin. On the one hand you have the noise and rhetoric. Greedy speculators gouging gasoline prices; mad mullahs preparing to wipe Israel off the map; bunker buster bombs and fleets being positioned; huge demand for oil from the BRIC countries; China’s insatiable thirst for oil; the oil price will head for $200 a barrel and will never again fall below $130 …

On the other hand you have the reality.

Oil Markets

The oil markets are completely manipulated and orchestrated, and the conductors of the orchestra have the benefit of having already held a rehearsal in 2008.

History never repeats itself, but it does rhyme. This time around it is not demand from the United States that is collapsing, but European Union and United Kingdom demand, as oil prices in euros and pounds sterling have never been higher. In the meantime, the US is awash in oil as domestic production quietly increases, flushed out by the high prices.

As I have outlined in previous articles, the culprit for the high oil prices between 2009 and 2012 – with the exception of the speculative “spike” between March 2011 and June 2011 driven by Fukushima and Libyan price shocks – has been passive investment by risk-averse investors, which enabled producers to support oil prices at high levels.

Much of this passive money underpinning the market and enabling producers to monetize inventory pulled out of the market in September 2011, and another wave pulled out in December 2011.

What is now happening is the end game: an orchestrated wave of noise that is drawing in speculative money. This is enabling the producers who are actually in the know to hedge by selling production forward during what they confidently expect will be a temporary – and pre-planned – managed fall in the oil price.


ystem Fragility

The markets in oil have never been so fragile and susceptible to shocks. Private inventories of oil are low. The investment banks interpret this – as they interpret everything – as a sign of physical demand and therefore as bullish for the oil price … oh, and by the way, here are some oil funds they have to sell you.

The reason inventories are low is that private intermediary buyers will only store oil if they can both finance it and lock in a higher forward sale price. Bank financing is scarce and getting scarcer, while forward prices are below current prices; the result is that inventories are low.

The systemic shortage of finance capital means that neither physical oil traders nor the remaining proprietary traders of banks can afford to take into storage much of the approaching flood of oil onto the market.

Also, derivative market risk has become concentrated – since intermediaries are no longer capitalized to take it – in centralized clearing houses, which have for commercial reasons become fragmented silos.




Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:22 | 2202962 jabu
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Nanci Pelosi--->Elmira Gulch.  No amount of plastic can hide that.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:39 | 2202983 ClassicalLib17
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When MillionDollarBonus can't come up with something creative you know the author hit a homerun.  Long live MillionDollar!    

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:43 | 2202988 Vic Vinegar
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Why did you write this?  I don't ask this question to be mean, to troll, or as an attempt at humor.  I am genuinely curious as to why you decided to type these words into the box.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:14 | 2203017 ClassicalLib17
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I was in the process of editing when you clicked reply, rendering my rewrite for naught.  I wrote that because MDB's skillful contrarian point of view never fails to elicit a chuckle.  He is very good at contrarian writing composition.       

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:33 | 2203030 Vic Vinegar
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K.  Nice reply.

I'm wondering if these are the types of comments we'll see on ZH 20 years from now.  Because if they are, the good guys most definitely lost.

Until then, CL, remember that internet comments are totally academic and are absolutely meaningless.  

Those that can, do!  

Those that can't post Katy Perry videos on doomer sites.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:56 | 2203050 ClassicalLib17
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I think you missed a comma in your last sentence.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 07:52 | 2203154 farmerjohn2112
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Laughing my fucking ass off...

+1 for keeping your shit together and good grammar skills.

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 05:11 | 2203034 ClassicalLib17
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I don't believe you are Vic Vinegar,  or, your point of view has changed 180 degrees from your former self.  Who are you?   Because you aren't fooling anyone here. 


Tue, 02/28/2012 - 03:53 | 2202996 kito
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Maybe if jpm brought back all that oil it purchased from the governments strategic reserve, our energy crisis could be solved. Jpm and nancy pelosi-lose lose situation for america. .........

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:01 | 2203002 laosuwan
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I once met Nancy Pelosi when I was a student in California. She was at a dinner at the university and I as token minority was seated at her table. When she finally did bother to speak to me she asked, among other things what I enjoyed about California and I told her the freedom to possess firearms as I had become very fond of sport shooting since living in California. She mumbled something about firearms being something people should not be allowed to own and did not speak to me again or say good bye at the end of the dinner. It was a long night for me sitting at that table but I could see that these liberals are more elite than the people they pretend to be a part of and that they are as facistic as any republicans or others in their society, if not more so.


But Jackie Mason said it best about Pelosi:


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