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Supreme Court Judge Bars Protesters From Zucotti Park, Denies Restraining Order
Not quite the outcome expected by the shower-impaired crowd:
- OCCUPY WALL STREET' PROTESTERS BARRED FROM PARK, JUDGE RULES
- OCCUPY WALL STREET' PROTESTERS RESTRAINING ORDER DENIED
- NEW YORK JUDGE RULES AFTER POLICE FORCIBLY REMOVED PROTESTERS
So... now what?
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Maybe they'll choose not to pay their taxes...
Works for the Fortune 500...
SEC-TRES (former and current) lead by example .....
maybe they will all withdraw money in december...
All they bring to the table is their own demise, as they make the incoherent demand that criminals stop being criminals and act on their behalf. Except they don't realize the extent of the criminal syndicate. Or if they do, they believe they can fix it, making the criminal facade function as a beneficial social system.
Here's a test. Go to your local occupation and look for this flyer.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Bankster-Flye...
You won't find it.
Better yet, take some there yourself, and see how far you get with it. There's not one person in a hundred in this "movement" that has a clue or cares to get one.
This just lets both sides save face. The cops and Bloomberg can say they restored the peace, and the protestors can disband until spring, when it will be better weather for protesting against social injustice.
Win win situations are so bullish. I'd say BTFD, but there won't be any more dips ever again after this.
America Freedom to Fascism
Alex Jones nailed that one!
http://rense.com/1.imagesH/cows_dees.jpg
Well there is Ju$tice for you. 1% continue to steal at will, 99% eat a taser.
Looks like NATO should come dish out some of that good old fashioned Democracy in Zucotti Park.
They are serving it up everywhere else,but None in the good old USSA.
Yeah yeah.... Money talks....
Let's hope they storm the gates with ten times more young people who have nothing to lose!
Thursday, November 17 is the day. This little action will only help advertise.....
...Martial Law. Coming to a polis near you.
Nice idea.
In the absence of a firm leader, who could give a coherent statement of purpose, it was bound to be nothing more than a camp.
The reality is any movement requires a leader. It also requires an astute understanding of the issues, particularily the interconnected way finance and governement work today. I saw nothing to suggest that this collection of people had the understanding required to make this an actual movement with purpose.
To bad.
Hopefully I am wrong, but sometimes I get the feeling that the lack of purpose and coherent statements was intentional. What would be the benefit of that? Draw you own conclusions as this all plays out.
Or perhaps its just that there were too many differing opinions about what is the cause and solution to the crony capitalism we live under. Is it more government control, which ultimately leads to less individual freedoms, or getting the government out of the way so to speak and letting Wall Street and other corporate entities bear the failure of their faulty decision making and wasted investment?
I'm not in any way smart enough to know the all the answers, but seems to me that the FRB is the oil that greases the palms of the crony capitalists and elected officials, and perhaps if the focus was on bringing their role and actions to light 9and to end) it would have gone farther. Who knows.
Sadly, this peaceful movement may be over, or worse yet, the next iteration won't be as peaceful.
Benefit? How about divide and conquer?
Soros is gonna use this to get Obummer reselected (complete with "New & Improved" Hopey Changey lies), while increasing the power of his "philanthropic" efforts.
Meanwhile, without a doubt, the lives of the 99% will continue to deteriorate, as there is no alternative left.
Just in time to throw the roof racks on their X-terras and get some ski trips in on mommy and daddy's dime.
This is incorrect. The ruling is that No tents are allowed in the park but the protesters are allowed to be there, however, the NYPD is not allowing people back in.
So the NYPD are breaking the law?
Correct. But that's hardly new for them.
Hey Alien...do you know Paul Krugman? He could use some help from your kind.
*edit - because he's looking for an invasion force from the ET kind
In the debate ZH covered last night, Krugman said (and I am not joking or sarc phrasing) "Everyone is concerned about the deficit. What is the point of having a surplus? What would the nation do with it unless we had an alien species to export to?"
I am not joking. he said that. I would find the exact minute second mark but they took the video down.
A Nobel PhD in economics cant figure out a reason to not run a deficit. I am one of the dumbest people in the world, but I was thinking, "Hey if we had a surplus, we could lower taxes on american citizens. The Aliens didnt complain when the US has surpluses before"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/watch-rosenberg-and-krugman-debate-larry-summers-and-ian-bremmer-whether-us-turning-japan
I watched it and I believe you are incorrect. While I dislike the philosophy of Krugman and will insult him I do prefer to be honest. I believe during his opening statement he was discussing the flow of goods and the U.S. would need another planet to sell to because there are no places indcluding emerging economies that the U.S. can create a surplus to sell to. It was more a comment about the current global problem as compared to the Japanese lost "duodecade" (my word not his).
I am willing to stand corrected, but I dont think he purely meant a trade surplus. his whole speil is stimulus through deficit spending so that nations would be enticed to repatriate the dollars to america buying our "surplus goods" which is primarily a service economy and real estate.
We tried this trick before on the japanese. they bought high end real estate here, but then had to sell it all back a drastically reduced prices. The chinese are not going to fall for that trick again. whether here or in europe. When they do start using their USD/UST/EUR they are going to buy assests that produce a high ROI and have low taxation/nationalization risks.
Again, I am willing to stand corrected and will try to find the video/transcript.
Here is the youtube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMvhac6qQgg
At about the 31 min mark Krugman's opening statement. He discusses that during Japan's downturn they could pull themselves out of it by exporting to more prosperous nations which, in the debate comparison, the U.S. doesn't have as a luxury unless they find another planet to sell to.
No, silly, they are the law. What they break is skulls, given the opportunity.
Nature is the Law... Survival of the fittest, bitchez!
Jeez they get of the butts and do something about how f*cked up everything is, they get respect. I support em.
Kick ass OWS peoples. F*ck the armchair theorists...tedious.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Ok, I'll bite. Which law did Congress pass that violated anyone's rights in Zucotti Park?
I keep seeing people going on about the 1st Amendment, but damned if I can see how it applies. Or did I somehow miss the United States STFU and GBTW Act?
This question isn't directed solely at Rockfish. Anyone with an opinion is free to jump in.
I guess you didn't read the rest of the 1st amendment. You know, the part about the right to peaceful assembly.
That's the problem with 'Socialism' in general...You give up your instincts...Then where are you! This 'movement' was no different...It was all 'Superego'
"Socialism" that thing enjoyed by ever state, federal, and local worker. Thats right folks, every police, firefighter, post office employee, politician, judge, many lawyers, DOT workers, DOJ, DOD, government contractors, all have been enjoying them some socialism for a long, long time.
If folks are serious about getting rid of socialism, we're really going to have to dump the military. There are few things as socialist as that big ol'heap of mismanagement and waste.
Private industry could do it better and it would save a fortune in the long run. Hire some guys to go kill someone somwhere, write 'em a check, and DONE. No need to help pay for benefits or housing or families or whatever.
indeed, the Dick'd Chain'y govt did just that, hired the Xtian Crusader corporation to inflitrate both THIS nationstate and others - despite the Prince relocating to Dubai, the rats he left behind in amrka are still drawing paychecks. . . here.
mercenaries.
Srry, banksters warped to communism, since the first appearence of General Secretary Of Fiat Republic of Wallstreetistan, commrade Allan Grünspan ....
LAUNCH OPERATION IRON CONDOR
I hope operation 'Iron Condor' has a leader or a meme that can be understood or disseminated with coherence...All those people and all that technology and what do ya' get...Confusion!!!
Here in Seattle should they try to shut us down we die hard rebels will be retreating to the forests, hills, and mountains.
If the government is trying to force civilian militias into existence they are doing a pretty excellent job.
They need some raison d'etre for all of those high-tech toys that they're just itching to play with.
now what ??.....beat the shit out of the midget
Everywhere else in the civilized world "Supreme Court" means the highest and final court, but in New York it means the lowest trial court.
Why? You ask? Because 100 years ago when Supreme Court judgeships were given as favors to friends of Tammany Hall everyone wanted to be a Supreme Court Judge. So they changed the name of the trial courts (circuit courts in most places) to Supreme Courts, and they made the highest court of New York the Court of Appeals.
Political corruption, it's a way of life!
Point well taken about the not so Supreme Court's odd name.
One other point of local color - although the park is privately owned, there is an easment in favor of public use 24 hours a day, which is broader than the rules governing publicly owned public parks. New York City often requires a developer to do something like this in exchange for permission to do something like build a taller builder than the zoning rules would normally allow, or to block off a public alleyway.
So Bloomberg FINALLY grows some balls. He should have ordered the NYPD to clear these libtard hippies out of that public space months ago. If he's shown some resolve back in September, like police in Australia and elsewhere, these lazy, dirty clowns would never have been to generate as much unwarranted attention as they have. If the NYPD had busted a few heads early on these little cry-baby 'occupiers' would have run sraight back home to mommy and daddy and people who live and work around Wall Street would have been able to get on with their lives without having to put up with this noisy, smelly disgrace.
Lets be clear: these 'protesters' don't understand capitalism at all. To them Jamie Dimon and Llloyd Blankfein are some sort of anti-christs -whereas the reality is that these guys provide the liquidity that keeps our system working, and sustains our standard of living. But 'working' is something these punks will never understand.
Can't work so easily if you can't find a job.
It's hard to get a job when one is kicked out onto the streets having little to nothing at all.
You need a little lesson in humility.
There's plenty of jobs out there. The problem for these 'shower-impaired', as Tyler correctly labels them, is there laziness and sense of entitlement. Sitting in their tents waiting for a government handout is their idea of work - that and sneering at those walking by on their way to real jobs in Wall Street and elsewhere.
Many if not most of us have jobs, dumbass. It is you idiots who are the useful tools of the oligarchs, but self reflection was never a strong suit amongst you. It's you who feel entitled to a larger share of the wealth of this world than the rest of humanity. It's you that perform useless work for the most part, for far too high a compensation. And has it ever occurred to any of you that Zerohedge may be a coopted tool of the media controlling oligarchs? What better way to control the thought process than to pretend to be the opponent exposing the deceptions... keeps you lap dogs well trained to continue to believe in the system that's strangling everyone next to you.
Anyway, who gives a shit. Do what you want, what you deserve will be waiting for you in the end, good or bad.
There is so many jobs out there, eh?
I'll remember that reflecting on the 25% national unemployment rate along with all the under-employed like myself who can only get three days a week of part time work despite wanting but unable to work full time.
I'll also figure that with higher living standards and raised taxes which further exscalates things.
You sir, are a idiot.
Well shit butch.. to bad a couple dozen citizens didnt get killed in the process? would that make your day?
The war is over.
It's not over until the fat lady sings.
Meant that in the "you're not in 'nam anymore" sort of way.
I'll just take a wild guess that butchtrucks thinks Joe Pa is the greatest coach ever, a true hero and legend in his own time.
Jamie Dimon provides liquidity? Really? Same argument as HFT? Surely you can do better.
Lets be clear: these 'protesters' don't understand capitalism at all. To them Jamie Dimon and Llloyd Blankfein are some sort of anti-christs -whereas the reality is that these guys provide the liquidity that keeps our system working, and sustains our standard of living. But 'working' is something these punks will never understand.
Diamond Jim and Darth Blankfein lead the institutions that have provided the fraud that has taken the financial system off the edge while political and regulatory capture has allowed socialization of their losses and kept their criminal enterprises in business.
What the f*ck do you smoke? whatever it is, it's rotting your brain. Look OWS have guts to say yeah "We all got gamed." They know about capitalism, I am capitalist, if I make a terrible trade I take the pain. I don't get bailed out out or given a free lunch. Wall Street did, Goldman a disgusting bank, got bailed out, and had a year of guaranteed stock/portfolio/trade profits (i.e they didn't lose a $ in 2009!) thanks to crackpot Obama/Fed underwriting the US indices. Yeah, that is grand plan of equality. No, that is communism for the loser wealthy elite F*ck that. Look Wall Street should have failed, Lehman failed, majority of America failed but Wall Street didn't...it gamed the system/government and the people. The banks should have been broken up, restructured and reset. Till the next boom. Didn't happen. The next bust, which is very very soon will obliterate Wall Street and yes, they will go to Congress again and ask for cash. Whilst you and others struggle to cover overhead costs, fuel, lifestyle or whatever. You think that is fair?
You think that is fair?
What are YOU smoking?
"Fairness" is the greatest delusion of all.
If you think that the system we now have is "Capitalism"...then it is YOU that clearly does not understand Capitalism.
butchtrucks obediently bleated talking points thusly:
Let's be clear: you're chugging a keg o' Kool-Aid if you believe our system is anything close to "capitalism". To you, Jamie Dimon and Llloyd Blankfein are some sort of benevolent angels working diligently to protect and preserve freedom, justice, the American way, and your precious bodily fluids, whereas the reality is that these guys are parasitic welfare whores, sucking off the government teat and turning this country into a withered, dried out, lifeless husk.
Go fuck yourself, you pompous prick. I hope you're next in line for poverty. Grin and bear it mother fucker.
This never happened to Tea Party protesters.
Is this a racist move?
At the two Tea Party rallies I went to I saw NO evidence of any racism or violence. And the ones I went to were majority Latino. All seemed like pretty normal Americans who just wanted Big Government out of our lives.
it's important to note that many tea party protests are armed. that appears to be a good deterrent against authoritarian zealotry. in those states that still allow carry.
Reread the comment. That's not what (s)he said.
The tea party wasn't a camp-out.
You know what they say when peaceful protest is made impossible....
Zuccotti Park is privately owned. I realize that OWS protestors reject the ownership or creation of any private property (not just land), but at the moment we are still living in the United States of America.
The owners have Improved this place to make it a nice park for which there is public access. We don't have to pay a dime to enjoy the place. But that doesn't make it ours.
Yes, I realize they have a contract with the city and that differentiates this private ownership from your own backyard. If your argument is with their contractual obligations then you should argue the points in the contract specifically.
Is it a public park or not? Yes or no?
Open to the public doesn't mean you can live on it.
No, it is not a public park. It is privately owned. The owners allow the public to access and use the park while the owners have paid for all improvements to the land.
The "Park" is a concrete and stone slab plaza. There are...some trees...
That would explain the Ron Paul supporters that I saw at Zucotti when I checked it out... Pretty big brush you use eh?
If Ron Paul supporters think they have a right to live there, then they are misguided. The owners have allowed people to visit and use the park. Today the people there were asked to leave. Any Ron Paul supporter that argued with that request is an idiot.
to make these protesters as honorable citizens is what is cracking me up...they are dirtballs...I am sorry..they just like to "protest"...and boy does an anti capitalist protest sound like a good one to them...the press loves it...but they are a waste of skin..they will add nothing to civilization in their lives...only take and complaign that its not enough...this is the "New World Disorder"...anarchy..smoke some dope..sing a song...and ask for free shit man...evolution will take care of these animals when the SHTF...
And I hope these animals eat your sorry ass. Must be nice to wear a robe and slam the gavel and holler "guilty" all day.
They won´t eat my ass...but they might get a chance to eat som of my copper and lead at some point if this escalates and they think they can take what I have earned and worked for...I am sick of the Gimme generation...the daddy´s credit card crowd....the "its so cool to be protesting" protestor...I want Bankers to go to jail...I want them to lose money too...but being a hippie does not do it for me as the alternative..
Right, because the OWS crowd is so much worse than the 350LB, IQ75, food stamp guzzling, backwater baby factories that exist in the US like in WV. But some young, out-of-work folks go and protest the banking industry and they're the scumbags that need killin'. Riiiiigggghhhht.
And instead of seeing an opportunity to educate, as in, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, you deride them and call them hippies. And you know, most of them weren't even alive when that hippie ball got rolling.
That is why they llok so stupid doing it all over again....the Che sweater around their necks..the goates....the chilean hats...its sooo elitist communist man...."your looking cool comrade"....protest the banking industry...read their signs...look at the videos of them..they are wanting a lot more than that...
I don't need to watch the videos, I work down there and have been watching them for two months. They aren't what you think they are.
Has it ever occured to you that your opinion exactly mirrors that of the mainstream media and the coporatocracy? This doesn't give you pause at all?
All this really is to me is a bunch of boomers refighting a thirty year-old culture war that has absolutely no contemporary applicability.
none of the OWS crowd have the balls to do anything hardcore. remember these are the spoiled kids of the boomer generation mostly. they whine a lot but when they run out of axe body spray and styling gel they will move on to something else.
OMG shut the fuck up. You think you're the only sorry ass that works in this world? You imbecile.
Does this judge's ruling have any sway in Portland, Oakland, Miami, San Francisco, Atlanta, Amarillo, Denver, Baltimore, Austin, Baton Rouge, Berkeley, Europe, Asia, Middle East...........................................................
#OWS = those little bubbles on the edge of the pot just before it begins to boil.
America was formerly known as the great melting pot. Now it's the great boiling pot.
Too bad it's boiling apathy. My son's girlfriend is all into OWS, so he's been to the local occupation a few times. His attempts at discussing fiat, fractional-reserve banking and sound money have gotten nowhere (eyes glaze over). If he mentions gold or silver, he's suddenly one of the evil 1%, and thus ignored (or talked over).
They actually went to Zucotti for the weekend, so it will be interesting to hear his contrast between the two events. Even better so, since she wanted to go "where people were doing something real" instead of the sitting around bickering they saw at the local general assembly.
I am pretty sure that MSG has some extra space after the recent 41 cancellations. Will Melo join the OWS movement?
Now that FatherLand Security has had a chance to photograph them all, and run the images through face recognition software cross-referenced with state ID databases, they will quietly and anonymously be dragged out of their homes in the middle of the night, never to be heard from again.
Duh.
We're not quite to that point yet. However, they may find themselves having lots of extra fun trying to clear airport security.
Looks grim. One enormous long-term problem is that there are just too many people. After the Black Plague, there were suddenly a lot fewer workers in Europe. Therefore, due to the Law of Supply and Demand, with the supply of workers being low and the demand virtually the same (due to wars), the workers who survived suddenly had a lot more bargaining power, which they immediately used to get much more freedom. Nowadays, planetary population is increasing by many millions every year, so that the supply of humans keeps increasing. At the same time, due to mechanization and computerization, the demand is not increasing. So, in accordance with the Law of Supply and Demand, humans become worth less every year. That makes it easier every year for elites to push workers further and further down. And, one might notice, many so-called "churches" have long acted and are still acting in the interest of elites, and against the interest of workers, by telling workers to do the things that increase population ever more: have lots of babies, and don't use contraception or abortion.
Once again...The Masters no longer need the Slaves...+1000...Be prudent, be frugal, and be smart...
Underpopulation - The Real Problem
I don't agree with the OWS movement purely on ideological reasons. But I hate corruption even more. It's too bad that people's rights can be violated just because somebody else owns a judge.
The problems in our country are largely due to the mixing of races and religions.
This is not arguable. It is factcual.
Yes...people should only bread with their own sisters so more people like you can be spawned.
brilliant.
How are you comparing incest to what I'm talking about?
You are obviously liberal and vote for people like Pelosi and Obama
because only a brain damaged spawn of incest could arrive at and agree with the asinine conclusion your post arrived at.
The problem with this county is racial mixing? What kind of depraved moron could make such a claim other than an inbred racist?
And of course, you further prove your stupidity by concluding that I must be a Obama supporter to think what you said is stupid?
Spare me.
It's been proven by many studies that the mixing of races/religions creates distrust in a society.
Who do you support politically?
It sounds like you would be much happier living in an Apartheid nation. The door is open and I'm sure they'd love to have you. There currently exist only one...but no doubt...they'd love you.
If segregation makes you happy, then you should seek a place that does not allow niggers (as I'm sure that's how you view them) to come near your precious self. I mix. And I like it.
As far as who I support, despite my belief that the two party system is a sham, given the current choices, the only person worth a fuck is Ron Paul.
Who said anything about niggers?
See you're trying to bait me and that's cool because that's the type of person you are.
You just proved my point. I'm done with you on this conversation.
Yah know what's really funny about blacks? They LOVE enjoying the fruits of slavery but will NEVER admit it.
you're only insulting your own intelligence with that tripe. might as well make a new avatar to spit your vitriol from. this one has been outed on so many levels.
I have nothing to hide.
i didn't say that.
i said you have a lot to be ashamed of.
Like what?
/Stop beating around the BUSH. 1913 was the turning point of our country... the FEDERAL RESERVE and the ZIONIST that cooked it up. If you do a careful analysis of WAR FINANCING throughout recent history, you get an indisputable picture of just who and what theoligy has usurped our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. The MIXING is not the problem as much as it is the SCAMMING BANKING FAMILIES. The MIXING is part of the recepi for what we have today however... " DEVIDE AND CONQUER"
History shows us the FIAT money never lasts very long.. Fiat societies also do not survive very long.
The difference this time I sence is that we have the INTERNET and the like of Dr Aln Sabrosky, Dr Norman Finkelstein, Dr Shlomo Sands, Dr July Woods, Dr Ron Paul and Dr LOVE!!!
To put it directly and to the point... If we need to rid ourselves of money monopolies like the Federal Reserve and not allow manipulation to occur in our courts such as what we have now... three out nine supreme court judges are Jewish , Zionists and it was a Jewish judge that allowed the Israeli mossad agents arrested on 9/11 to be deported to Israel without much fuss... even though they blew up a car-bomb on King st NYC.
So it is not so much MIXING it is WE THE PEOPLE being total idiots and allowing ourselves to be manipulated with floride ease.
There are problems in Japan too, you know.
Interesting that the people here have been to Zucotti park so much that they have a very clear demographic analysis of the players there. Because otherwise, you know, all you would have is hearsay from the mainstream media. But that makes sense since we all know how honest they are.
We must trust our television. Our television enlightens us. Our television teaches us the ways of the world. Our television does the hard work of thinking for us. Our television knows what is best for us. We must watch more television.
If this has something to do with property rights it would be alright...they stayed longer than they expected but I think more and more people have no choice but to go to streets anyway.
here an opportunity to design and market the
expandable poncho that becomes a one person tent,
should include multiple inflatable pillow type
design features.
takes too damn long. Just give them some 30 gallon leaf n litter bags to play in and asphyxiate. The ones without the anti-darwin safety warning printed on them. Problem solved.
Capitalist!, or entreprenuer.........
I'm not happy I live in a fucking police state with a crony legal system, a crony banking system, and a crony government. Just bend over and grin.
Booh hoo.
You're the kind of guy I'd like to run into at a bar, sitting there running his mouth talking shit. I'd give you three seconds to get out before I laid a country ass-whipping on you. Fucktard.
oOoOoOoOoOOOOOO
You're such a tough guy. You must have muscles that would make stone turn to dust.
I'm not so much a tough guy as you are a pussy. And a fraud. Yeah, that's right, you've been outed and we all know your deal. Pussy and a fraud. Go make some imaginary trades, bitch.
Have to admit, that was a classic! Forgot who posted the takedown, but he had all his facts, screenshots, the works...masterful! I am surprised Bob decided to show up even after that. Perhaps he thought no one read it. A lot more people read the posts than add to it, and they all KNOW.
That was a classic. You can tell Bob's a dumbfuck by reading his posts, but a fraud on top of it. Classic.
take a number, sparky.
Don't forget to vote!
Foot Sniffing Fetishists hardest hit.
Where's the "fundamental transformation" when you need it??
Where is Occupy the FED?
It's real simple really...
Close the park at 10:00pm each evening... let the useful idiots go home and sleep and crap in their own toilets... Then allow them to return each day to resume their right to protest peacefully... repeat...
I'm confused a little here, are the protestors banned from the park or just not allowed to set up a tent city?
There are always limits to free speech (yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc) so are they just saying they can't take up residence there but can continue to protest, or that they cannot be in the park period?
Plenty of other parks to play in. We'll see how comitted the fellas are and won't this be telling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaEjdLkMCfg&feature=related
now what?
for the average Joe: buy silver en masse. prepare for harsh times.
protests are useful. that they're now prohibited is proof enough, there's some value.
i'd say to the ppl. saying they need AR-15s or AK-47s; sure I agree on the arms issue.
HOWEVER....The BIG problem is of course the police is MUCH better equipped, and has been training for a decade for this.
TPTB are just itching to call Martial Law. They FAILED in enticing the protesters to use violence.
Martial law comes three hours after the ATMs run out of money, because all of the banks have died.
good luck ows.... it may well be they self destruct before your campaign reaches critical mass..lets hope...they are proper screwing each other now... inevitable unavoidable result of free markets with referee absent...i say that as not a call for more bad regulation but implementation of the simple rules like allowing a failed business to die... rack and stack.. buy some popcorn and watch them devour each other...
This is a constitutional issue – the right to assemble and the right to protest; and this action has been taking place on public property. If private landowners in New York have issues and are trespassing on private property, that’s one thing. But neither Mayor Bloomberg nor any other single individual owns the park; it’s a public park.
Michael Stallman with his 25 years on the bench needs to learn the Constitution.
It's private property that has been turned into a park for public access 24/7 in order to build a skyscraper somewhere else. They are allowed to institute rules, and can call the police to aid with trespassers who don't follow them.
That’s why you protest; you protest the rules they make that aren’t constitutional.
You mean no more pooping on the street, lice? Darn
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
If only they had put this in the constitution. Oh wait....
As I asked above, which law did Congress pass that denies any of those things to OWS participants?
The Supreme court overruled this part :
or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I have an idea. Give them a mop and broom. Make them clean up. Then they can leave.
Fuck you Tyler...the useful idiot
Mako! They missed you.
Re: Student loans - Seems to me that the universities have awarded degrees to people who can't read a contract or calculate compound interest.
FTW. I like the recent influx of pirate avatars. Maybe the tide be turnin' (pirate voice).
I'm just waiting for all those who think everybody else but them is stupid to find out different.
Good luck with that!
IMHO It is the gear, machinery ,food and stuff that opens the way for the city to remove the assembly. This needs to be done in shifs that you eliminate food, bathroom, sleep.
Of course that would reqiure more people.
You are correct. I've been waiting for this solution to emerge, but it seems everyone is too busy demanding the right to freely deny the rights of others, never bothering to stop and notice the incoherence. But such is politics.
It's almost as if its intentional.
In the meantime, shit like this gets to go on.....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/congress-shocked-find-being-ceo-bankrupt-c...
Amanda
Occupy the supreme court. Those dumbasses at the supreme court can't even strike down NY anti-second amendment laws when they are clearly unconstitutional. They don't know right from wrong. So ignore those dumbasses at the supreme court and continue to occupy.