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"Last Train Home" - The Video Documentary Of The Human Cost Behind China's Stunning Growth Story

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We all know that China has the biggest skyscrapers, the fastest growing economy, and the emptiest cities in the world. We also know that there is no such thing as a free lunch. And with every economic success story, no matter how engineered, manipulated, or contrived, comes a human cost. The 2009 documentary by Lixin Fan, "The Last Train Home", is just one such attempt to capture the "human element" behind the glitzy headlines and the 9% GDP growth. The quite synopsis: "Every spring, China's cities are plunged into chaos as 130 million migrant workers travel back to their home villages for the New Year's holiday. This mass exodus is the world's largest human migration, an epic spectacle that exposes a nation tragically caught between its rural past and industrial future. Working over several years in classic cinéma vérité style, director Lixin Fan traveled with one couple who have embarked on this annual trek for almost two decades. Like many of China's rural poor, the Zhangs have left their native village of Huilong in Sichuan province and their newborn daughter to find work in Guangzhou in a garment factory for 16 years and see her only once a year during the Spring Festival. Their daughter Qin, now a restless and rebellious teenager- bitterly resents her parents' absence and longs for her own freedom away from school and her rural hometown, much to the dismay of her parents. She eventually leaves school, against the wishes of her parents, to work in the city. Emotionally charged and starkly beautiful, Last Train Home examines one fractured family to shed light on the human cost of China's ascendance as an economic superpower." We bring the documentary in 6 parts to our readers in hopes of a greater understanding of the dynamics behind the world's biggest economic dynamo.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

 

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Sun, 10/16/2011 - 14:50 | 1779068 Sudden Debt
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Tyler, can you put in the hyperlinks to the movies? My firewall blocks them all.

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:05 | 1779097 sqz
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You only really need the first one since its a series (also a playlist in this case) from the same Youtube uploader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J2Nmk8ZmLqY

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 07:29 | 1780735 Harlequin001
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'Why don't people line up?"

That has to be THE classic line of the whole series...

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 09:21 | 1780971 Harlequin001
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Ok, here's my advice on how to deal with an unruly teenage daughter.

The next time she says 'fuck', and you take her to task, when she throws a right hook, simply move your left arm firmly across your body and connect gently with her upper right arm, pushing it in turn across her own body. Then, swiftly bring the flat of your open right hand firmly up the side of her now half turned torso and connect firmly with the right side of her jaw. She won't say 'fuck' again, ever.

She might say 'uggermawhooftehuff', but she certainly won't say 'fuck'.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:06 | 1779102 narapoiddyslexia
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Straightforward YouTube, isn't it? Not sure, but try this -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Nmk8ZmLqY

Find the others along the right margin.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:25 | 1779446 Bananamerican
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Part 4 was pretty harrowing..made me think that all the nazi's had to do to get the jews scrambling for the trains to auschwitz was to invent globalization...(& for the "thick" junkers and sinophiles among you, I'm on the People's side)

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:58 | 1779860 New_Meat
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I'm thick, just a stupid little piglet.   Who are these "People" you are talking about? - Ned

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 22:16 | 1780106 Bananamerican
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two legs, some soul, no snout

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:15 | 1779240 Temporalist
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If you mouse over the title inside the movie window you can right click and copy the links.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:01 | 1779089 Gully Foyle
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Wait I saw this movie. I think it starred Anthony Wong and Maggie Cheung.

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:15 | 1779127 Lord Welligton
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And that's 130 million people who have to be kept in jobs at the lowest possible wage making goods for export.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:59 | 1779212 Zero Govt
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Beats over 30 million starved to death and the complete impoverishment of the biggest population on the planet under the alternative (Big Govt) system (happened twice in China under Ming then Mao)

the miracle of China is the socialist scum of the Chinese Govt got out of the way and let the private sector breath again

I couldn't give a crap for Mings daughter resenting her parents working away from home.. she's lucky to have food on the table and clothes and some (private sector) opportunity in her life to get ahead instead of terrible poverty and zero chances but what some Communist cunt behind a desk decrees for her 

Could these whining tedious anti-progress morons take a loooong walk off a short pier and naturally de-select themselves?

..the Great Depression we're about to see take another leg down will teach you what Govt intervention gets you (ie. 1 promised step forward, then 2 back into a sewer) 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:44 | 1779326 Lord Welligton
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Was there anything I said that was anti-enterprise?

Was there anything I said that was pro-Mao?

Was there anything I said that was pro-big-government?

Still.

Glad you had the opportunity to get that off your chest.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:00 | 1779351 Zero Govt
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you made 2 posts when i got here... one on 130 million peoples wages having to be "kept down" and the other on "pollution" ...the usual socialist-eco causes

nobody keeps wages lower than Govt wether it be socialists impoverishing everybody or fascists (Govt + Corporates).. China has an unhealthy mix of both fuking up the private sectors progress (wealth creation)

regards pollution there is always a cost (or emission) from any progress or energy expelled... Europe and america both also went through the pollution/emissions problems in order to reach 1st World status.. bleating about Chinas is rather hypocritical don't you think?

The most industrially advanced country on the planet, Germany, is also paradoxically the cleanest. The exact opposite of the Eco-loons hysterical rantings on Western civilisation and Africa and Asia's industrial rise

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:09 | 1779371 Lord Welligton
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I did not say that wages had to be "kept down".

I said they had to be kept as low as possible.

Pollution is neither capitalist, socialist, eco, or anger. It is pollution.

And I think we can agree that pollution has been exported along with the jobs.

nobody keeps wages lower than Govt wether it be socialists impoverishing everybody or fascists (Govt + Corporates)..

Were the people in the film working for the government?

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:51 | 1779451 Bananamerican
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"I couldn't give a crap for Mings daughter resenting her parents working away from home.. she's lucky to have food on the table"

Dear Zero,

fuck you.

-Bananamerican

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:08 | 1779481 Zero Govt
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your country (like here in Europe) is being impoverished by the creep of the big creeps of Big Govt ... strangely that's exactly the same process as the USSR and China (twice) went through ...State intervention in society and the economy (inc agriculture) leads to the destruction of both (simple stuff to folllow this, strange it's not taught in State schools!!)

Mings daughter is indeed lucky to have food on the table. Because it was private sector wealth production that put it there, produced since the Commie Govt of China released State controls over the dead as a DoDo private sector. Had Communist China stayed red, she'd probably be starved or not even born!

Regards the "fuck you" comment Mr Banana i'd return the compliment but far easier i just sit back and let the (your) US Govt do it 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:28 | 1779646 Bananamerican
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"Mings daughter is indeed lucky to have food on the table"

"and weren't the darkies gay

when all they did was play

and eat their watermelons

in that old Kentucky home..."

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:02 | 1780607 Zero Govt
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i'd like a discourse without you putting racist poetry in my mouth ...maybe you could just represent your own argument (properly rather than piss poorly) without the usual ignorant leftie cunt attitude of mis-representing other peoples arguments with extreme hysteria  

you think it gives you the moral high ground but actually it proves what a bunch of weak-minded idiots your worthless socialist religion promotes that they cannot have a solid exchange of points without hysterical arm waving and whaling

I repeat Mings daughter is lucky to have food on the table because under the previous Communist totalitarian regime that ALL socialist Govts head at ramming speed toward she would be lucky to have food on the table, indeed she'd be lucky to be alive under any extreme socialist regime 

if you'd like to counter my argument with your own argument and not yet another fantasy land wild mis-representation of my opinions i'd appreciate it... but i won't hold my breath as you zombie hummers of socialism (in actual fact brainless supports of the Socialist State) fire nothing but idealistic blanks and have been running on empty (ignorant) for Centuries

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:29 | 1779649 Cabreado
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If only you could send your "govt intervention" message,

AND

give a shit about all the "Ming's daughters" in the world...

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:14 | 1780633 Zero Govt
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these scumbag documentary makers could have taken Zao's daughter, Chings daughter or any other Chinese daughter to 'represent' their downtrodden hard-done-by cliche person to then spin their lying political point

the actual person (daughter) is irrelevant, their name is simply taken in vein, a tennis ball for these toe-rags to play with to make their politicised point-scoring statements

Oh look at poor *insert anyones name here* ...if only we had regulation, laws, human rights, Govt intervention wouldn't the world be put to rights.... no actually retards check your history books of ALL intervention in society or the economy... we'd have precisely where that's got every country in history: bankruptcy, oppression of all freedoms both social and economic and non-stop lying, cheating and self-promotion by the bent authorities applying said rights/principles

the road to hell is paved with good intentions ...worth mentioning that road is rammed with little Hitlers behind institutional and Govt desks    

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 23:32 | 1780263 Imminent Crucible
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"I couldn't give a crap for Mings daughter resenting her parents working away from home"

Okay, but if you ever have a daughter I think you'll feel differently. I have two, now a nurse and an attorney, and I feel extremely fortunate to have been there every day as they took their first steps and grew into young women.

Governments and their collusive antics are not the solution. Everywhere you look, government is the problem. Our government is a horribly corrupt and destructive entity (just look into Pelosi's dead eyes for confirmation) but the Chinese suffer under a monstrous government. Tienanmen, One-Child Policy, the oppression of Tibet and the coddling of North Korea--what's not to like?

I hope it all falls to pieces, and soon.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 05:58 | 1780619 Harlequin001
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Man. they are so fucked. To have worked so hard in such conditions and then find out that what you've worked so hard for is suddenly worth jack shit, the riots will be phenomenal, and by that I mean all over the world.

Keep liquid, keep gold and be ready to move at short notice...

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 05:57 | 1780618 dolly madison
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As a mother I do give a crap about the daughter.  I was frankly horrified at the notion of living my whole life away from my children.  We can't want to compete with them.  Better to charge tariffs, so that we can manufacture our own things for ourselves again.  Even if a trade war happened, we'd still be better off than bringing ourselves down to their level to compete.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:16 | 1780634 Harlequin001
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I ran a small manufacturing business at one time and despite cheaper imported products we did quite well. Obviously severely undercut by Chinese and Indonesian goods we sold our products on quality and unique but swift design and delivery. I still shut the business down to do other things in part due to the hefty administrative burden placed upon me by government, but it's difficult to compete on any platform when the only basis for a very impersonal sale at Walmart is to bang the stuff on a shelf at cheaper prices.

At least when you went into a small shop you could happily be sold something with a service that made you feel good, if even for a short while.

You cannot compete with this.  If there's one thing manufacturing did teach me it is that somewhere, there is always someone without capital willing to work cheaper than you. Obviously they can do nothing other. It takes either a strong government to protect you from that or a gold standard, which is the only way that these people cannot raise cheap capital with which to undercut everyone else on the planet. The world needs a gold standard again, badly...

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:26 | 1780643 Zero Govt
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Harlequin  -  at least you tried which is more than 99% of armchair moaners here have done... first you are quite correct big corporates like Wall Mart competes with stocking their shelves with cheap products. They've emptied small shops from town centres.... but the small shops and small manufacturers should have competed on a different strategy/level and found your niche/s

look at Apple... while all the cheapos are falling on each other to get ahead Apple are above it all... ok they manufacture in China but their software etc (brains) are American. 

What i don't understand is a robot costs the same in the West as it does in the East. Labour costs are barely 3% of most companies cost structure so where do people get the idea the west is so much more expensive to make a mass produced product?

There's so much zombied blinkered thinking and blind acceptance of 'norms' ...there's plenty of room and levels for Western companies to compete with and beat their Eastern counterparts.. we're our own worst enemies  

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:57 | 1780662 Harlequin001
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Well Zero, we did try and I honestly believe I would still be there today since my business was personal and didn't rely on credit. Whether it would survive now is a different matter; I don't believe it would since markets are imploding and consumers must inevitably go with it.

The reason I shut it down is government interference. Too many overheads what with minimum wages, sky rocketing health and safety costs and other such employment 'benefits' all paid for by me. Hell, I even had to absorb the cost of collecting taxes for the government and administering personal pensions for grown ups who should be capable of doing it themselves. We won't even look at increasing redundancy benefits.

I got out whilst I thought the going was good ten years ago and will not go back or put my capital at risk anywhere until the environment is more friendly to us 'entrepreneurs'. Till then it stays in gold and silver and by that I mean until democracy is dead, and until I have some defence against a system in which two redundant employees without capital can vote themselves all my money through electing bent politicians.

Which is going to be quite some time I'm afraid...

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:35 | 1780648 Zero Govt
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Dolly -  you've had the opportunity (in your lifetime) to live in a country that put up tariffs and made all their own gear ...you could have jumped over the Berlin Wall anytime you liked and lived in uncompetitive, self-sancitfied, in-bred ignorant Nirvana ...you could have had the delightful opportunity of being on 5 year waiting list for the tragic pile of junk on wheels Trabbant while the more open (nearly) free markets of the West produced cars of infinite variety, performance and hundreds of times better quality and more advanced

Why did you spurn such an opportunity honey, Eastern Europe was calling to you all those years???

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:30 | 1779297 DormRoom
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Watching this is inspiring. To see how ppl will suffer, and endure for family.

 

  I think about how half of the dudes in my dorm spend 8 hrs a day playing ps3, the remaining 4 hrs drinking.  And when they are in trouble, phone mom & dad for help.  It's like my generation doesn't ever have to grow up, because our parents will always take care of us.  We have it so good.  Thanks mom & dad.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:05 | 1779886 New_Meat
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DormRoom: U must be far away from any "Occupy <Your City Here>" crowds if the folks who are hangin around are doing as you say.

Of course, they could complete their 4 or 5 year "course" of study, then bitch about the debt that they incurred while, well, behaving as you say.

Then, they will realize that the debt incurred is  not dischargable in BK, they, they b on the streetz too.

If you are seeing this and actually are in college, then, bless you and your folks.  The crash is a'commin' towards you and yours because, in part, the behaviors of your dorm-matez  and their "parents."

- Ned

{and a greenie on ya.}

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:27 | 1779955 Paul E. Math
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The cake is a lie.

They were suffering and enduring for an idea.  That idea was family.  But did they get it?  Not even close.  Their suffering was utterly in vain.

I watch this and think 'there, but for the grace of God, go I'.  Our global economic system screws these people every day of their lives. 

Ralph Lauren and Calvin Klein pay these people very little, not because that's what their labor is worth.  The fact that we pay so much for designer jeans is testament to the fact that their labor is worth much more than they are paid.

Why do Ralph Lauren and Calvin Klein pay these people so little?

Answer: because they can.

It is the system that promotes this modern-day slavery, enriching the .1% at the sacrifice of workers' lives.

Don't kid yourself, no one is free while others are oppressed.  We are living in a dystopian nightmare.  We are living in Plato's cave.  We are living in the matrix.

The cake is a lie.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:18 | 1779134 Lord Welligton
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You've probably seen this before.

One of the other "costs" of the Chinese export boom.

http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:05 | 1779245 Zero Govt
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Hello Lord Wellington,

in your Video collection have you a film on the "costs" of an import led boom? Do you have the costs of a service based economy hollowed out of manufacturing??

Have you known any country on the planet that has got rich on services and a trade imbalance???

You must be an academic or crone of the State-banking cartel because you sound like a complete moron M'Lord

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:55 | 1779335 Lord Welligton
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I think you will find that the link provides pictures not video.

Again.

I am happy you were able to get that off your chest.

Have you considered anger management?

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:12 | 1779380 Zero Govt
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Yes I already have an Anger Management plan in place Lord Wellington...it's called the 'Getting Things Off My Chest' Course where if I see something dumb, stupid, or corrupt i express myself on the spot

It's brilliant, you ought to try it some time in between gibbering Western ideological pompous crap about pollution and wage suppression in China

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:22 | 1779394 Lord Welligton
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Excellent.

You might go for a post graduate in "Recognising Dumb Stupid & Corrupt or Take Your Pills before You Shoot Your Mouth Off".

I'm led to believe they are offering PHDs in it.

 

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:14 | 1779493 Zero Govt
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Lord Wellington  -  I'm not into PHD's myself and nor are you from the looks of it. You keep reaching conclusions before the debate has started and giving lofty advise before you've demonstrated any knowledge of the course work. Before another of your hollow quips from that pea shooter of yours would you like to demonstrate where your snotty obnoxious advise is coming from regards Chinas pollution and suppressed wages if you'd be so kind?? 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:26 | 1779510 ForTheWorld
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Hi Zero Govt, I've got a phone call for you. It's the Pot, and he wants to talk to the Kettle about something that's black.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:02 | 1779536 Zero Govt
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Hi FortheWorld, I've got a peanut on the line and it wants to talk down to someone intellectually inferior (a socialist) with the memory of a Goldfish (a socialist) ....i suggested you fit the bill nicely, will you accept the collect call ?

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:19 | 1779626 ForTheWorld
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Haha man you're hilarious. I needed a good laugh.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:40 | 1780651 Zero Govt
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if you need a good laugh get a mirror and look at the stupid clown in it

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:36 | 1779528 Lord Welligton
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You keep reaching conclusions before the debate has started

What debate?

You are an idiot.

You spout "ZeroGovernment".

You don't do debate.

You excel in self contradiction.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:47 | 1779555 Zero Govt
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It's hard to debate with a retard but here goes, i'll try to point you toward the talking points you yourself raised :

what's the problem with China making pollution? ...pollution is a small cost to pay for industrial advancement that leads to ever cleaner lifestyles and ever less environmental side-effects?? Have you an alternative path that's realistic or do you moan daily about people having a crap in the toilet too?

Point 2 which you raised was about wage suppression. Again who do you think suppresses wages more

a). the private sector who creates (all) wealth in society and enriches people or

b). the public sector who destroys wealth in society and systematically bankrupts countries and their peoples (see your history books, read present day newspapers for current affairs examples) 

when you're ready Einstein????

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:29 | 1779650 Lord Welligton
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You are one sad fuck.

I do hope you get help soon.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:11 | 1779907 New_Meat
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Let's see: Yep--that's on Page 54 of Alinsky's book.  When you don't know what you are talking about, then make a) personal accusations about the other individuals' situations, then b) be really condescending about those folks' situations.

Makes the discussion go so very well.  Happening all over the world these past few days.  Ain't improving shit, in your case nor in the world's case.

Don't cha' know.

- Ned

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:21 | 1779938 Lord Welligton
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Yeah.

Ned. You did see the conversation?

Bye the bye.

Who's Alinsky?

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:45 | 1780654 Zero Govt
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Alinsky is the Marxist toe-rag that taught President Obumma all he knows... which ain't alot as can be seen in the 'results' of his $1 Trillion spending programs

So your current affairs is piss poor as well as your historical knowledge ..i've mentioned you're behind the curve, i've tried debating points regards your debating issues and yet you still come up with blanks and sit your fat worthless arse on the high ground calling others names like they know jack shit

another fuking ignorant socialist bites the dust (haven't they all?)

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:44 | 1779325 ForTheWorld
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When people think "yeah, this is really awesome that I get this huge television for only $300" or contractors exclaim "shit yeah! super cheap steel to use in my hundred storey building!", they neglect to think that the cost of manufacturing those items, and everything else that's made in China, has a hidden cost applied to it, and not necessarily monetary in nature (at first glance).

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:08 | 1779365 Zero Govt
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FortheWorld  -  you're very welcome to set up your own business and pay 20-40% more for your supplies ...you will of course go out of business following your idealogical, as apposed practical, path in life 

...so until you set up your own business and show us all how it's done, why don't you mind your own business uh?

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:12 | 1779379 Lord Welligton
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Take a chill pill and go have a lie down.

If you get more angry than you are you'll do yourself a mischief.

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:25 | 1779505 Zero Govt
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i always avoid taking a chill pill, euphoria is much more my style actually ...and your un-welcomed and uninvited advise, like the China stuff, is once again off the mark and behind the curve

you may not have noticed out of your Lordships stately windows a certain boiling up of anger across the globe... anger and aggression is a fine thing actually, they make the world turn (in sport, business, you name it). Chilling and 'finding peace' is for the lazy, unproductive and parasitical. Nobody ever built anything sitting on their arse being quiet, meek or chilled out.

OK i'm not as angry and pent up as members of a dozen or more countries but i get their rising temperature at the con merchants and fraudsters of politics and banking ..i like being angry, it's very trendy at the mo' and i fully intend to retain this mind-set for a good few years or more... so stick your stupid advise up your arse 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:40 | 1779541 Lord Welligton
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Are you the creation of a test tube?

Are you aware that you are not the only human living?

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:51 | 1779563 Zero Govt
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if you could stick to the debating issues (keep to the points) and avoid your speculative garbage please as i'd like to cut you to pieces on the issues you raised before i retiree for the night 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:57 | 1779583 Lord Welligton
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Go to sleep.

It's ok.

It's allowed.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:06 | 1779601 Zero Govt
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i'll accept your wimping out of the debate on account of you wouldn't have lasted long having peddled the usual anti-industrial China garbage of most socialist windbags in the media (they fed you, you swallowed... good little zombie)

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:11 | 1779614 Lord Welligton
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Grow up.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:21 | 1779634 Zero Govt
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Wise Up ...you might be able to have a grown-up debate when you do

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:32 | 1779656 Lord Welligton
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Get some sleep.

Wake up.

Go for a walk.

Smell the roses.

Talk to the animals.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:53 | 1780657 Zero Govt
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for the 2nd time, stick your advise up your arse (your head is already rammed up there and needs plenty of advise on getting out)

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:54 | 1780658 Ghordius
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he is not going to engage in your debate

leave him - you've made your point

perhaps you should remember that the pity for the single human problem is too strong for most to rise the head and see the whole picture

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:24 | 1779507 ForTheWorld
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It amazes me that you can speak with such apparent self assuredness that you know each and every persons background, what they have and haven't done, and whether people know how to run a business or not (which is quite a left field point considering I only spoke about an unseen cost).

Perhaps if people actually had ideals that they stuck to, rather than going down the cheapest path in life and encouraging rampant consumption, we might have a better quality of product that lasts longer and doesn't require new models every year.

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:56 | 1779522 Zero Govt
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the fact you think higher input prices and slower model replacement also leads to "higher quality" shows how little you know about business (and the consumer) and what a moron i'm talking to

regards "sticking to ideals" underlines what an impractical person (twat) you are too.. every decade socialists bankrupt their countries yet every decade a new generation of young socialist students take sup the stupid bankrupt mantra (of idealism)

you need to replace humming a tune you've learnt from some peanut brained leftie retard (your economics teacher) and replace that idealistic failed garbage between your ears with some practical knowledge, real history of the world and actual human experience.. namely replace a sordid bankrupt dream (the socialist State) with a shining productive reality (the free market)

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:23 | 1779641 ForTheWorld
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Again... so many assumptions, about so many things.

Why do you think I'm a socialist? Why do you think I learnt what I'm talking about from my economics teacher? Does one have to be involved in an economic-based field, or have studied it at a tertiary level to come to this site? It seems as though those that are have placed us firmly in the mess we currently find ourselves in.

At any rate, it's as if you're looking at what people are writing, and then making baseless assumptions without any thought, or even wanting to invoke some sort of meaningful discussion. I'm glad I haven't learned anything from you.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:51 | 1779840 pavman
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After watch this and reading through these comments, I now appreciate my $28 Walmart tennis shoes even that much more. I could have gone for the $19 brand, but I wanted to splurge!

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:18 | 1779136 JoBob
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I saw this through Netflix and it was decent entertainment. One discussion on the train with another passenger about making blue jeans to be sold in the USA made an impression. The Chinese sewing-factory worker had a more detailed knowledge of American buying habits and finances than most Americans seem to have about their own behavior. Poor does not always translate to ignorant.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:41 | 1779203 Fish Gone Bad
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One only has to know the life of Niccolo Machiavelli (author of The Prince), to know how true that is.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:18 | 1779272 Shocker
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+1

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:36 | 1779192 imapopulistnow
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tragically caught between its rural past and industrial future

What a load of crap.  They are in transition - little different than any other nation that transforms from impoverished to developed nation status.  It cannot be done without a transition phase.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:12 | 1779261 Zero Govt
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Spot on Ima'

China is climbing the industrial rung, the path all nations need to take to wealth, progress and comfort

Since those thick idealistic morons, Regan and Thatcher, the 'establishment' (ie. bwankers, economists, academics etc) have perpetrated the BS services could replace manufacturing. These past 3 decades of increasing Western impoverishment were built on that lie and the other lie, credit (debt) would build us castles in the sky.

Services and the entire financial sector does not create a single penny (or Cent) of real (productive) wealth. They merely shuffle what's already in the pack

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:36 | 1779425 Freddie
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LOL!  Another C-S'er Obama voter pops his head out of the rabbit hole.  Reagan and Thatcher?  Thank open borders for bankrupting the west.  Thatcher was clearly opposed to turning England into Pakistan.  The Labour Party after her did that.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:41 | 1779204 Stevious
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In 2008, with no jobs in my part of my state, I took a job some hours away, and rented an apartment near my job.

That job is gone and I'm now unemployed.  Again, there are no jobs within commuting distance of my house, and that is unlikely to change for many years.  So, I"m faced with taking a distant job again, which I would take but all I now find is what was a full-time job is now a 16 or 24 hour job. It is not economically feasable to rent a second home (apartment) on a part-time, non-benefitted position.

When working at a distant location I too returned to my hometown for holidays.  Perhaps in time this will become the norm for many Americans.  It's socially devastating.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:37 | 1779278 Zero Govt
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having suffered 5 weeks of relative impoverishment (cards, phone, cash, passport etc stolen) i have every sympathy with how you must feel.. it is fuking stressful !!

If i can offer some advise look outside of the official job channels you've blinkered yourself to and seek wider opportunities like setting up your own trading business (from your car boot, a wheelbarrow, whatever)... Your 3rd option is to look for work in 'un-official' channels. The black market is pure cash (ie. no debt or credit cards or parasites such as politicians, Govt Depts, regulators and bwankers sticking their peanut brained jack-boots in).

The black market will be considerably more stable, efficient, profitable, flexible and creative than the inept, taxed and regulated to hell Govt bled and strangled zombie businesses. The black market is afterall a free market (ie. free from Govt intervention)  

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:45 | 1779214 mick
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Gook-fest I won't be watching.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:09 | 1779253 Conman
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Post on the wrong board by accident? You must have redneckheaven.com in your other browser.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:00 | 1779469 Cliff Claven Cheers
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I hate these racist fuck stains too.  The Chinese people are just like us. Wanting the best for their families.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:02 | 1779593 Vlad Tepid
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I'm not an expert on these matters but the racial slur you used applies to Koreans...the Chinese have a different one.  It's a bad day when you're so ig'nint you can't get your racial epithets right.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:37 | 1779665 Schmuck Raker
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Third or fourth time I've seen it this week, from different posters.

Relatively common man.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:53 | 1779699 Pure Evil
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Actually 'gook' was first used by US forces in the Phillipines during/after the Spanish-American War.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:54 | 1779852 pavman
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ROFL! I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that comment!  hahahaha

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:48 | 1779217 acabrer
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Thanks Tyler! Great article and documentary. Keep this site alive and well please.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 15:49 | 1779223 joebren
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This is hardly news. Travel thoughout Asia and three or four times a year cities like Bangkok, Phnom Penh & Hanoi are abondoned by their city dweller residents to return to the towns and villages of their birth and often to visit children that are being raised by grandparents, supported by parents in the cities. This has been going on for decades, but to us in the west it seems unusual behavior. It's nothing more than Clark Kent heading back to Smallville, Kansas to see his mom at Christmas.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:06 | 1779474 Cliff Claven Cheers
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Wow, thanks joebren for telling us this is hardly news.  You saved me from watching it and wasting my time.  I am glad you travel there 4 times a year, you must be some big wig important capitalist, you must be very important in your own mind.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:06 | 1779603 Vlad Tepid
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Is this a Really, Really Bigman's way of saying that all Asian people are the same?  The video is about CHINA.  With a C.  Not Thailand, Cambodia, or Vietnam.  The demographics, transportation infrastructure and economic realities are different so please just sit back and enjoy learning about a country you don't regularly jaunt to.  China.  With a C.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:02 | 1779243 Temporalist
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I think this is a clear example of how the world needs more people, more police, more military and certainly more consumers buying more stuff.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:09 | 1779255 Hyper Entropy
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One sub theme in the movie happens to be a resentment toward Americans. The Chinese think we're fucking stupid.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:07 | 1779606 Vlad Tepid
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So far they seem to be right...

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:15 | 1779267 Vendetta
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I have moved 6 times in 8 years chasing jobs including leaving the country.  Its called an unstable and unsustainable economic model and nicknamed globalism.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:24 | 1779282 G-R-U-N-T
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The Chinese don't make a bad product...I'm wearing a pair of their drawers right now and so are most of American men and women.

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:49 | 1779332 Zero Govt
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the only crap Made in China is the usual garbage produced by the public sector (trains, roads to nowhere, empty towns and shopping centres and other mal-investments from which every country on Earth suffers)

I attended a couple of Expos in China as long as 15 years ago and the products on display were mainly Western design copies but the quality was excellent and about 20% the price of Western products. This constant dissing of China as cheap and crap comes from the same channels that are fighting a financial war with them i presume to make them out to be the enemy

Anyway is anyone familiar with Americas Microsoft? Surely the biggest load of garbage ever sold to any country, let alone across the globe, for not a year or two but they've been getting away with peddling expensive crap for decades 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:53 | 1779342 Lord Welligton
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Anyway is anyone familiar with Americas Microsoft?

And the "government" "owns" Microsoft?

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:40 | 1779431 Freddie
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They do now.  Gates and Buffett are stooges for Hussein,  The phone companies and software companies provide hacks or access for the US govt to spy on the public.  The phone companies always have.  All of TV sucks the left and provides the left with 24x7 brainwashing to get the sheep what they want them to do.  Anyone who watches TV is a moron.

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:46 | 1779441 Lord Welligton
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Gates and Buffett are stooges for Hussein

And not the other way round?

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:40 | 1779800 Schmuck Raker
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"Anyone who watches TV is a moron."

That's why I only listen to Talk Radio.sarc

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:39 | 1779537 ForTheWorld
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Microsoft peddling expensive crap? Some of their software may be expensive or lack proper functionality (Dynamics GP, Windows Millenium), but a great deal of their enterprise software is far above what many other companies can produce (SQL Server, Dynamics XRM, Windows Server 2003 & 2008 etc) and unless you're running a Linux or Unix varient or Mac OS (which is a port from BSD anyway), you're using some of their software right now - maybe Windows XP or Windows 7, and it's probably working quite well.

Plus, you can build software that runs anywhere from reasonably well to extremely well without having to pay to develop (unlike Apple).

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:27 | 1779292 ricocyb13
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I lived and worked in China for over a year and also travelled by train a bit.

Honestly, the chinese people are very smart and very kind folk. I walked around in the middle of the night in Shanghai - not dangerous at all.

If you have not been there, go for it! It`s just great!

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:19 | 1779501 redcorona
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Thats because they dont have blacks or mexicans.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:34 | 1779304 TheLooza
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Watched this side by side with the 49ers/Lions game.  It's just amazing how Harbaugh has these Chinese guys playing so disciplined.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 16:47 | 1779334 Quantum Future
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I never click on U-tube links because they never play through without hanging up every 10 seconds. I am on Windows XP OS using IE browser and I believe Adobe Flash Player 11. Can anyone suggest a setup so U-tube videos play normally?  

TIA

QF                                 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:28 | 1779514 Temporalist
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Goto the video and pause it immediately.  Along the bottom right of the player window with the play bar there is a number like 240p, 360p, 480p; click that number you can change the resolution to the lowest number there if it isn't already and also change the settings by clicking on settings in that same number menu.  In settings you can select quality to never play high resolution video.  Otherwise pause the video and let it load, the gray bar along the bottom buffering, and when it gets more than half way start to watch it.  I would also open all the videos in this series at once in different tabs, pause them all and let them load and return to watch at a later date if you find it incredibly slow.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:05 | 1779363 lolmao500
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Saw that last year... was great.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 17:06 | 1779364 delacroix
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mozilla firefox

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:11 | 1779485 PulauHantu29
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Extreme hardship so others can have inexpensive geegaws. China is still a 3rd world country despite the upper 0.01% who are new Billionaires there.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:29 | 1779515 Hooter Shaker
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Thanks for sharing.  That was eye opening...

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:32 | 1779521 dark pools of soros
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gotta be grabbin so much china ass in those crowds!!  pinch pinch!

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:40 | 1779540 Use of Weapons
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Fleeting post, since I'm working on something else atm, and officially sacrificed this alt on the pyre [previously on ER] - I hate it when the audience just don't get it though. For the purists, this mirago was sacrificed both with blood (his and mine, gotta watch the left hook Howard, full adult consent garnered for it, beautiful - hope you kept the girl, sorry about the nose), and with full triple reference to this site. If only the 'chess players' I met were up to the challenge, but.. meh. Rule #8 chumps.

Lions this time, isn't it? My full name as a gematrix, amusing cosmic joke. Old memes are more ingrained than I imagined. Oh, and Disney references to "Up" grate, they really do. We're not 12 people, nor do we respond to Circe and animalistic inaccurate labels. Child indeed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo   ... we apologise for any interference in your scheduled transmissions.

 

#1) ZH - you're taking the King's coin now it seems, so yes we all understand the costs of industrialisation in China, and the weaknesses in the economy, and so forth. How's about a redirect? One child / family for how many years to maintain stability? However coercive, at least it was proactive in preventing disaster. Reference that against the unholy lack of responsibility in the USA during industrialisation [buffalo wings anyone? *cough*].

#2) Do a bit of research - I suggest the meat industry in the USA, circa 1920's. Rocky Balboa didn't come from nuthin, and his blood and roots are more socialist than you'd want to imagine, young Libertarians. Just 'cause you shipped 'em out doesn't mean the US doesn't bleed red as China when the circumstances are right (or rather: redder - China's blood has always been tinged with blue, the weight of history & all that porcelain demands it).

#3) Cost in all the protectionist tariffs, please, as good economists. e.g. India - garments - USA $2.4 billion subsidies on cotton production [damn those niggers for getting all emancipated on you!] which is then price protected on the way back in via Corporate $ penny pinching to the last dime. Hypocrisy is never edifying - do a grep on industrial workers rights as well, while you're at it. Unless your /snark was robber barons, circa 19th/20th C - at which point, I salute you.

 

@T.eI.Pee.

Rocky reference: Sept/Oct was round one, called "judging the opposition". Hint: he gets punched a lot, doesn't fight back and takes a beating. It helps him later on. Late Oct/Nov we start to play. Oh, and fuck off with your "ID lost / stolen" nonsense seeing ones - not my fault you're lost in translation, nor do you understand the references. Hint: Hamlet was rich, in his way, and look how confused the court was about that little episode. [Lit.]

Move faster. 3.0 ain't all psychopaths - your measuring tools are blunt & old. Move faster. They do have good camouflage though & hate bad scripts. Don't attempt to game a gamer (bearing aliefs & loaded up on mimetic poisons from the wilds of the intarweb).

“...Men do not sufficiently realize
that their future is in their own hands.
Theirs is the task of determining first of all whether they want to go on living or not.
Theirs is the responsibility, then, for deciding if they want merely to live,
or intend to make just the extra effort required
for fulfilling, even on this refractory planet,
the essential function of the universe,
which is a machine for the making of gods.”
? Henri Bergson

 

 

Crystalline. That's the word for 2012.

 

 

 

p.s.

 

Economically, you're still in OZ. Aka, totally fucked, with Dorothy about to pull back the curtain. But have fun, that's only the side-show to the real show going on.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:22 | 1779636 Cliff Claven Cheers
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WTF

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:43 | 1779662 Use of Weapons
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You junked a post you didn't understand?

Good going there, at least you're in tune with your avatar.

 

Some posters will get the theme, if you need a signpost, here's a tale:

In Iceland, recently, I saw that one pane of glass in the Harpa building had been shattered - not so great going for a $150 million project so early on (for a windy, gale swept island, non-toughened glass is a recipe for disappointment, but I digress). It took an entire month before (drum-roll) a Chinese team came and fixed it. I watched them do it - two Chinese men up a cherry picker fixing the new pane, five more on the ground surrounding a single (giant, to them) Icelandic male over-seeing (or being seen to over-see) the project.

Riddle me this: for a project that was half completed when disaster struck (and Krugman is there on the 27/10 to tell them how wonderfully they handled it) Iceland sacrificed a lot to get it completed. Like the entire arts budget for a few years, and the possibility of developing the surrounding building sites at all. Does the general population realise that it came with a Chinese project management / repair contract? If not, they're going to be mighty pissed when they do find out.

 

There's Europe in a microcosm - hint: fixing Europe will take longer than a month, and every economy is also built of non-shatter proof glass. GS has a history of rooting for David, given their background. Related.

 

Cheers version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1W0F0yObg  [hint: Aliens are already here, and Krugman is going to meet them on the 27th ;) ]

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:48 | 1779689 knukles
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WTF?

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:55 | 1779706 Use of Weapons
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We could run with this theme, but I know you're a weight class above the sniping, since I've seen your comments around:

 

Define an issue, I'll focus. Or we can end with "WTF?"

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:01 | 1779715 Pure Evil
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                                   WTF?3   Be-atcheZs

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:07 | 1779724 Use of Weapons
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Ok, you get a +1 for that.

Do I have to fight, tonight? Only had a month off, and unlike most of you pussies, I did it real-time, and decked a large 6'2" player in consensual violence to seal the end of a play. Even after he stipulated [post-my-nose-bleeding-out-everywhere] "No right arm, no uppercut, no movement". Straight left jab still works...

 

When was the last time another person made you bleed?1 ;)

  • 1. Your ex-wife's lawyer doesn't count
Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:59 | 1779713 Pure Evil
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WTF? Duex!  Be-atcheZ's

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:37 | 1779666 earleflorida
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funny how china made 'one child policy', but here in the good old states we make a one child policy ourselves

and coversely russia pop is decreasing exponentially - is it the vodka?

thankyou tyler

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:50 | 1779691 Use of Weapons
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Actually, no.

23% of graduate females in the USA don't breed. The same cannot be said for the lowest economic classes - well documented state of play, I'm afraid.1

Russia is different - average male age is 53 (vodka / hard drug deaths), and the general 'death of hope' and Communist rule lead to abortions & unwillingness to breed. Still hasn't been sorted, but it is a historical problem unlike the Western issue. (And Japan, well - ugh.)

 

Note: Iceland treats their children like proper human beans, and doesn't Disneify them - this is crucial, and important to a species. I think Henry V was 15 when he conquered France; pretty sure he wasn't worried about what his class mates thought of him (although, Barons, probably so).

 

 

  • 1. I can source this easily enough, but its worth finding / reading it for yourself
Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:33 | 1779978 Vlad Tepid
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You sure do like Iceland tonight...and I can say as a reasonably intelligent person that I have no idea what the hell those first two posts were.  If you had a point you didn't make it, but it sounded important.

Henry V was 29 during his first French campaign and the Battle of Agincourt.  Not at all sure what your point was there about kids and Disney and Iceland and Henry V...but he was 29.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 22:10 | 1780054 Use of Weapons
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Less than three years later, Henry was in command of part of the English forces—he led his own army into Wales against Owain Glynd?r and joined forces with his father to fight Harry Hotspur at Shrewsbury in 1403.[4] It was there that the sixteen-year-old prince was almost killed by an arrow which became stuck in his face1.

 

Henry V was 15 when he assumed command of a military force, and was 16 when he gained his first "purple heart". His military career began at 15, was halted briefly during his Oxford years and quickly resumed in France. 

 

Move faster.2

  • 1. The reference to 1066 is deliberate, of course
  • 2. The lesson is that Henry V was shaped for warfare at the age of 15. His subsequent attacks on France and so forth were a direct result of his upbringing. Ergo, the Icelandic lesson on how to bring up children - compared to the USA model of Disney & treating them like the unholy fuckwit version of Princes/Princesses until they hit 18, at which point you expect them to magically transform into 'involved adults'; Newsflash - doesn't work. And thus your society is royally fucked at the moment, and 'hipsters' are the product of your best education and monetary systems. Or do you want me to spoon feed you some more, little pumpkin? ZZzzz
Sun, 10/16/2011 - 22:51 | 1780191 Vlad Tepid
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So you junked me because you were wrong about Henry V conquering France at 15 and pointing it out to you.  the descriptions of his Welsh campaigns were an interesting mea culpa though.

Your method of communicating through hyperlinked citations is odd to say the least, and I agree that the modern model of US parenting is build on a sugar cereal commerical and is not the basis for a sustainable culture, but I still don't know how they do it in Iceland.  So let me ask you directly:  How do they raise kids in Iceland and what does that have to do with the China story.  Please connect the dots for Young Vlad.  You lost me at crystalline.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 14:39 | 1782296 Use of Weapons
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Henry V - sorry, I was elipsing his life; at one point I knew a lot about the man (including his mother-in-law, who is a fascinating creature - eventually held for witchcraft, in order to get to her wealth, from memory). He's renowned for young military campaigns, esp. as the Black Prince.

They treat children as 'mini-adults' & expect them to make their own mistakes. Yes, the children get away with being tear-aways (not big on heavy discipline) but they sure allow them to make their own mistakes. Around here it'd probably be labelled 'Libertarian'. Oh, and they're not big on health & safety, in that nanny state kind of way - the upshot is that there's individuality coupled with fairly intense family ties, which extends into the larger society as a whole. In China, there's a dichotomy between the rural model [traditionally lots of children due to poverty, work them young] and the statist banning of large families, but with the 'respect your elders' communitarian model of society. Iceland's model seems to be one of the most healthy I've seen, which goes for most of the Scandinavian countries.

 

For the record - I didn't junk you. I assume someone did it to encourage you to stop feeding the trolls.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:49 | 1779686 Schmuck Raker
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-1

Not fleeting

enough; carry-on luggage ATM

happy audience, they don't read,get

S.P. 'U o Weap' book like. Shame is heren't

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:58 | 1779711 Use of Weapons
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My shame is tied to love, but there's a different tale.

Unpack, Tupac?

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 18:51 | 1779564 dark pools of soros
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perhaps it is just pro-austerity NWO propaganda for the western world???   See serfs??  you can manage on less and less...

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:01 | 1779591 dark pools of soros
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ok i am tlaking to myslef here..  must be the patron, but why do those rural china families give a damn about the cities??  all that great land who cares about manufacturing and money??   Are they gettin conned with the dream of bright lights and big city dreams??  McMansions??  Don't they realize they can work 100 hour weeks and not get a better life than what they already have?

 

 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:04 | 1779722 Ricky Bobby
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I was wondering the same thing, the land they were working appeared to be very fertile. What is the draw to working in a factory and living in a dormitory.  The crowds were everywhere in the city sufficating yet the countryside appeared quite and lush.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:37 | 1779997 Vlad Tepid
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My understanding is that it has partly to do with inheritance laws and if you are the son that doesn't get the farm, you are pretty much screwed.  And yes, Chinese policy allows rural farming families more than one kid because of the manual labor required.  I think it may also be that "Streets are Paved with Gold" illusion about urbanization that caused people to move to London, NYC, Hollywood, etc. thinking or being told they could make more of a buck easier and then finding it hard to go back permenantly to their old life.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:08 | 1780629 dolly madison
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Same reason we abandoned the farms.  In my little old town, I found little old books with little old stories about how the young left.  How the money looked better than the land to them.  I think it could have to do with the instinct to separate from the family in the teen and young adult years.  Leaving allows them to separate really well.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:02 | 1779595 no2foreclosures
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"If he would be alive today, Mr. Ponzi would be amazed at and extremely proud of the greatest Ponzi scheme on the planet and in the history of the world: the ability of the United States to create money and credit from nothing and, here is the kicker, its ability to exchange that monopoly money and fake credit for real goods and real services produced by the little people from the rest of the world, and its ability to rape and pillage the natural and human resources of the developing world in broad daylight under the guise of spreading democracy and freedom!"

Enjoy the free ride while ya can . . .

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:02 | 1779598 htp
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A film that shows how slaves live, and how Americans will be living twenty years from now, if the New World Order has its way.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:38 | 1779669 bentaxle
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Just wonder if it's actually meant to suggest how Americans have already been living this way for years (only the cage is much more gilded now) and how the Chinese have somehow been persuaded that living this " American way of life"  is what they should also aim to achieve. The problem being that the goal "blinds" them to what is wrong.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:47 | 1779685 Flatchestynerdette
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Work is work. Whether its on the farm where Qin had something to eat that she liked or the stuff she didn't like at the factory she threw out. Then where did she land? The bar scene which quickly for women becomes the hooker scene. She's got no support in that town whereas in the other she had a friend she could bunk with. She's lost to the glitz and thinks there's an easier way to make a living. Sort of like the Americans who think its their right to have an ipod, free access to any information including movies, have their school loans paid off, etc. Yep, we're right up there in delusionville.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:57 | 1779708 htp
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Americans are being brainwashed, conditioned to accept slave wages ("right to work" for $5/hour while the banksters print trillions for themselves). Not quite slaves yet, but quickly moving in that direction.

Chinese peasants are already there.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:11 | 1779735 Use of Weapons
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You get it.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:29 | 1779775 Incubus
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Ever been to any small to moderate sized town in the US?

 

We're not too far off from this shit: outside of Big cities and designated routes for the outflow of "money" from the commerce centers,  America is a very depressing place. 

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 06:02 | 1780623 dolly madison
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I live in a small town, and it's still a whole lot better to live here than it looks like it is to live in China.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 19:42 | 1779679 Flatchestynerdette
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2 things: I feel like crap now to my own dad when I was growing up and this film had no happy endings which meant it wasn't hollywood bullshit. Tragic - just tragic.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:17 | 1779924 New_Meat
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u can fix thing-one

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 20:13 | 1779737 reader2010
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Can they update one with those bourgeois flying last plane home from Guangzhou airport, the largest airport in the entire southeast Asia? I am sure you will get a glimpse of Jim Rogers' hope for longing China that way. 

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 21:56 | 1780037 monopoly
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Starting to get a little testy here. Looks like we are a little closer now to the solution.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 22:20 | 1780115 Mauibrad
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These working and livelihood standards and government control are what the corporations would like to eventually see in America, else they would not find it so acceptable in China.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 22:35 | 1780155 bob_dabolina
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I've served in the US military and I've worked my ass off my entire life. 

These videos made me feel like I was lazy

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 22:54 | 1780156 bob_dabolina
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dup.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 02:42 | 1780526 saladinw
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Its simple, China cant print money like the US and most of Europe now that the EU has decided to do so.  The day is coming fast when China will trade only with the commodity countries goods for commodities and the west no longer will be able to get real goods and commodities unless they seize it like in libya.  Dam shame libya didnt have nukes.  Without the ability to print which is coming fast our lifetime we will see how the lifestyle adapt.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 03:51 | 1780556 Mr.Sono
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Why can't China print money like US?

 

China has 1.3 billion of people vs US 300 million. that scares the shit out of me.

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 04:02 | 1780563 unky
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who wants to watch on megavideo, here: http://www.megavideo.com/?d=4PXK1CUV

Mon, 10/17/2011 - 05:58 | 1780620 dolly madison
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I've only had time to watch the first one.  My thoughts on it are that the country living looks much better than the factory living.  We'll see what I think after I watch the whole thing.

Thu, 10/20/2011 - 07:53 | 1791973 woolly mammoth
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Worth the time and effort it took to watch. Thanks for posting Tyler.

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