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Live Feed From Syntagma Square
With Greek politicians on the verge of selling out the population more than ever before only to preserve the country's ability to be an ECB toll stop, where it takes Troika money and promptly pays Greek creditor banks, the time to return to the Syntagma Square webcam has arrived especially since tonight is the night when the population learns if Greece will comply once again with Troika demands for record austerity or finally cut the cord. Because with the latest round of troika demands being that "the minimum wage be cut to less than 600 euros ($790) a month and that at least one holiday allowance, the so-called 13th and 14th wages, be abolished, Mega TV said" and that "pensions paid by supplementary funds should be cut by 35 percent" it the local population believes that waving goodbye to one's retirement to fund a bank's bonus is worth it, then it deserves all the bending over it gets.
Watch live streaming video from stopcarteltvgr at livestream.com
And for those wondering, here is a reminder how out of every euro in bialouts, only 19 cents actually goes toward the country (and of that we assume a big portion is to fund European military purchases).
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Greek financials? I thought that was mythology.
Only Greek financials are mythology?
I don't know. It is all Greek to me.
Geez, this is gross but everytime I see Syntagma Square I dyslexia it as Smegma Square. It's cheesy I know.
But... but... they need BANKS, and ROADS. Where will the people get their money from if all the banks close down? And nobody will ever again be able to drive anywhere if the government can't build more roads! /sarc
Sh*t Statists Say to Libertarians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJLmkC2-lw
I think of Stygmata Square, dripping with the blood of a "Hail Mary".
The Superbowl epitomizes the incredible nauseating narcissism of Americans! Because who ever wins today they call themselves "World Champions?? .... Last we checked no one else plays your fucking barbaric game apart from the Canadians! And you can bet your teleprompter too, that celebrity wanna be Obamwana will get his photo op next week With the winners!
Giants 4 Pats 1, I have that on good authority...
Buddy, I agree with the narcissism part, but let's get a few things straight:
1) Canadians play Canadian football, which is slightly different from American football. There's no Canadian teams in the NFL.
2) Well, if the only people who play this game in the world are the Americans - then guess what? The winners are the "World Champions". It annoys me when they do it for the NBA or in baseball, because there are other countries who play basketball and baseball at a very high level, but not for the NFL.
As for "fucking barbaric" - I think rugby or Australian Rules football are more intense and harder than NFL. NFL players strike me as a bunch of primadonnas compared to rugby union or AFL players.
I think rugby or Australian Rules football are more intense and harder than NFL. NFL players strike me as a bunch of primadonnas compared to rugby union or AFL players.
no equipment, weight differences between players can be 100 lbs and the idea is to create overlaps whereby the 165 er has to take down a 265 lb rhino....aka Jona F>>> Lomu
NFL is for wanna be's. Fucking helmets, bunch of panty soilers sucking from the tit on the sidelines every five minutes. 80 fkg minutes non stop organized MMA = rugby
NFL is for wanna be's. Fucking helmets, bunch of panty soilers sucking from the tit on the sidelines every five minutes. 80 fkg minutes non stop organized MMA = rugby
Hahaha, wouldn't have expected anything less from a Kiwi! +1 for Jonah Lomu - still remember him taking on 6 French players in the 1999 RWC and scoring a try.
One of the great things about rugby - no matter how hard and physical it gets, the minute it looks like a brawl is imminent, the ref steps in. Fighting is a strict no-no. Same in AFL and even NFL for that matter. Unlike hockey - hockey is a great game, but the fights take away from the game.
All bankers should work for minimum wage! They take no risk but are paid for taking huge risk.
When the banks are really just a laundering operation for the international drug cartels, I doubt they'll ever compromise this institution.
and along comes 'Sparta'
its a well played game.... with the unknown outcome.
Just like Greek Sex. Also a mythology (at least according to my wife)...
thoughtful wife...
Is your wife Greek, or are you?
"They" will bend over, as usual! Rioting won't help, unless it's NATIONWIDE and absolutely VIOLENT! Military may then "take over" once again and DO THE DEAL anyways...they need to eat too, right?!
BUT(there alwways seems to be a "but") if, only if, there is no bending over, tomorrow all will be LIMIT DOWN, and that, folks, quite violently! BUT..Never Mind...Bending Over to Bancheros seems to be national sports these days! I personally won't bet on it!
Yeah, miltary is so efficient (killing your own and enemies at the same time) that they should take over and fix that shit. As all of us know military are usually big thinkers, bright and open minds, finding the best solutions.
Don't they call it riding the greek saddle...bitchezzz????
Assume the position...
At least they have plenty of olive oil for the post-bending application.
do they know the Super Bowl starts in 6 hours !
Time to go all in on the Greek 30 year!
IceLand
I wish that livestream feed on the right was in english, I'd love to know what the people are saying
They're saying "If you muppets put us under german slavery for half a century, we'ill cut your heads off!!!!!!!!!!!!!1"
source: my one year of private greek lessons.
I'm short and hopeful that the talks will collapse.
Deflaut bitchez!
Deflaut? (de rule of law?)
btw I'm tall...and long........baby
As someone pointed out, Super Bowl is starting in 6hrs. While everyone is watching the big game, Greece might be declaring bankrupcy... Talk about announcing when nobody is paying attention.
Well, in Europe we don't have Super Bowl. The sheeple watch other stupid games here...
It's interesting how the reporter refers to Papademos as "so called Prime Minister"...
The bitch of it is that it's not only Europe who is paying for this shit. The American taxpayer is also bearing the burden via IMF funding. Most Americans, even reasonably well-educated Americans (yes we do have a few of those), have absolutely no clue because this fact is intentionally obscured from public scrutiny.
So is the Canadian taxpayer. Flaherty our Fin Min tries to make it look like we're not involved though.
I dont get it. If they cannot afford minimal wage at 600€ cause its too low why the hell Slovak republic have to finance them. Minimal wage in Slovak republic is 327,20€. This is sick.
Whom exactly do you mean with "finance them"? Nations? Umm yeah, you indeed "don't get it".
SR is part of EFSF and ESM. Without next blackhole package for Greece they are toast. I don't believe in monstrous conspirations. If they want the same live, they deny reality. Look at them Greece politics are bigger speculators than hedge funds.
Don't use terms of which you have no clue what they mean.... among them, the term "speculator", propaganda bitch.
There will be blood.
There will be ouzo.
and baklava !!!
and finally dancing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6cW779sBF8&feature=related
One of the great endings to a movie.
"Zorba is able to convince Bates that failure is an inescapable part of life, and that only by constantly tasting defeat can one truly enjoy life's victories."
It looks like Occupy: A group gathering discussing how they lost their homes, they don't drink expensive alcohol anymore, their wives left them.
When the We won't get any traction until the movement changes from "me, me, me" to we.
One person can throw a cocktail, but when everyone marches in unity for not just themselves but others, we will have the change we seek.
MLH: "their wives left them"! Say it isn't so. You mean when the money goes out the door the romance isn't far behind?
This is the Super Bowl: The Troika vs. The Greeks. The loser (or maybe the winner) gets to go into default and then bankruptcy. Greek foods and retsina go well with this superbowl.
The third superbowl is over in Syria where it's the Sunnis vs. the Alawites and the loser gets to be exterminated. Recommended refreshments for this super bowl include Syrian and Lebanese food along with strong tea and coffee (You can sneak a shot into the coffee but don't let the mullahs catch you)
Seeing how good you are at parroting state propaganda, you might be better suited to the Super Bowl crowd.
Syria isn't Sunnis vs. Alawites: it's Sunnis, Alawites and remaining minorities united against the NWO-backed al-CIAda 'rebel' thugs that have been assassinating thousands of innocent police officers and civilians.
=> far better Assad's socialist regime than the attacking NWO/bankster/Israeli neo-liberal regime.
Can't tell how many people are there but they appear to be extremely calm...is there some kind of time as to when they will know?
I think the Super Bowl is being broadcast for the people of Greece. Everyone is tailgating and standing around trying to find a good seat for the game. It's so exciting because the entire world is getting ready for the Super Bowl right now and watching them prepare is televised.
is there some kind of time as to when they will know?
10 Tomorrow (at the latest)
20 Goto 10
EKM, EKM are you here, please help translate
no news. what a pain.
He said they have been in their 4 hours and they some rumors w/out confirmation. He won't tell what the rumors are
Not one rumor today...oh thats right..the markets are not open yet.....forgive me..please forgive me....
A little bird told me they're waiting for the Super Bowl to start and the nachos are starting to get soggy.
Scoreboard: Euro up.
Are you really gonna have me believe Bernake is gonna let the Greeks undo all his manipulation work of the last 3 months? C'mon!
Ooooohhh, gold's gone up a bit too :O)
dallara is inside the parliament.
And I'm outside :-)
Molotov in hand?
Just playing, all the best buddy.
No, just another anti-climax. I'm afraid when the real climax comes, we won't have any sperm left.
Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnJDaqT3-0
Common thoughts of:
1) Troika watching Greek politicians.
2) Syntagma Square Greek people watching Greek politicians.
3) Greek security watching Syntagma Square Greek people.
Interesting take on the 'deal' from an Athens professor about to have his pay cut. He compares the Troika's package to the allies imposing the Treaty of Versailles on Germany.
http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15716817,00.html
The denial of reality of a Greek
So how much does a Greek private in the army get paid? Is it minimum wage? What about a colonel or a general?
greek default during superbowl. america too drunk to notice. brilliant.
ekk! ...blood on the streets
..i started looking at Greek property today, still not cheap enough, not long to wait before a scouting mission there
Meanwhile..."back at the White House":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDzxn66W3uM&feature=player_detailpage
TOMORROW. AGAIN. LOL.
So the announcer thinks their meeting to decide how to tell the Greece people their decision and that their
has been keep very secret
The big secret? This is worse than all the years of "Days of Our Lives" on tv. Surely there will be a rumor before the market opens..
The people of greece are powerless to do anything except gather at T square. All the ass ra**ing is being done behind closed doors with plenty of security. Just like in the US, the cops are too stupid to realize the people they are protecting are gonna fuck them over as well by diluting the shit out of their pensions (the true thing they all really care about).
Talked to a friend in Chalcis (Greece) about 7 (his time). Says the pop is more dispirited than mad - rampant corruption, crazy politicians, insane pensions, the "effing" EU. People are stocking up on fuel and food - first sign of an impending crisis. He said there's support for a coup just to "bring order" but more and more, people (especially in the business) are praying for a devalued drachma that will bring back tourism - their only hope.
What a sad ending for an ancient country. Pay the banks, screw the people. Cannot believe they will approve this plan.
And back here where all is well. There is not enough room to park all the football corporate jets that are arriving for the super bowl. Now that is sad, poor billionaires.
47 million on food stamps. Unemployment near 16% and jobs created at $9.00 an hour and we are out of jet parking spaces. America. While it means absolutely nothing to most I will not be watching this farce of a game with all its splendor, advertisments, "intelligent" football players and their slave lords. Makes 0 difference but for me this is what I need to do.
On and on it goes.
75% of those players will be bankrupt within 5 yrs of retirement, per NFL stats.
Why watch future deadbeats? These people are scum. Not icons. They'll be sticking their landscaping service and plumbers and electricians for work they won't be paid for.
Why would I watch them?
Greece is the cradle of so many things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jswv93YmZKQ
Keeping with today's football theme: Greece punts in a push to overtime:
(02-05) 10:55 PST ATHENS, Greece (AP) --
Leaders of parties supporting Greece's coalition government say crisis talks for huge new debt deals will continue Monday.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/02/05/financial/f105508S21.DTL#ixzz1lXTrBlnaSo nice of them to let us enjoy the Superbowl. Could you imagine if NBC had to break away and tell everyone their money in the big 5 banks may be at risk due to sovereign debt, CDS, and counterparty losses? This also should let everyone put on some positions. Will this really be a non-event? Certain, a Greek Default has been talked about by everyone for over a year, but the real question will be whether the system is really firewalled for such an event.
Remember, "Housing Bubble impact will be contained...."
The EU will NOT allow it to be called a default. i'd bet all the discussions are about just that - how to default without declaring a default.
I hate advertisements!
That must suck given they are everywhere; tin foil hat, or no tin foil hat.
Use adaware and record every TV program in advance that you intend to watch. Fast forward. No hat required.
My prediction is the market wont even flinch on news of a bankrupt greece the great fb ipo will come to the rescue two more months and then comes the crash remember you can buy seeds on food stamps so grow a garden
Greece, Schmeece. Indianapolis is hosting The Running Man today. And the Sheeple shall be pleased!
"bending over"...NO!
Not this time!...Your turn!!
How you like me now?
Navy 60802: As an "educated American" you should know that US taxpayers have never ever lost a penny through IMF's actions. In fact over the IMF's 65 years life, the US has made over $1 billion. Please check your facts and sources.
But, but, but, but US citizens of A hard earned tax money is bailing out the world...
Ah, yes, education has no bearing on duplicity.
Navy 60802: As an "educated American" you should know that US taxpayers have never ever lost a penny through IMF's actions. In fact over the IMF's 65 years life, the US has made over $1 billion. Please check your facts and sources.
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The Greek people really don't care. They will be happy unwitting slaves. Their sheepish behaviour is what got them into this position in the first place. The "riots and resistance" you are seeing is just the anarchist black block children and communist throw backs. The mainstream Greeks know that central world banks and government will take care of this problem.
The article is clearly biased. I will not comment on the 13th & 14th monthly salaries that are considered to be a default right of every greek employe (regardles of whether the employee is in the private or government sector). That is aside form bonus benefits.
"pensions paid by supplementary funds should be cut by 35 percent" it the local population believes that waving goodbye to one's retirement to fund a bank's bonus is worth it."
Make no mistake, these retirement funds are NOT a form of personal savings. They are funded thru the social security system (taxation) and deficits are funded by the government budget which borrows.
So, if you ask me with or without EU, Greece government budget CANNOT exist the way it is. They will have to go thru austerity one way or the other. They need a reset of their system.