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Live Webcast Of Corzine's Third Testimony Where The Questions Pick Up In Complexity

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Following the gotcha moment from Tuesday, fully documented here and here, in which CME Executive Chairman Terry Duffy basically caught Jon Comminglerzine committing an act of perjury, or lying about the chronology of his knowledge of MF Global's commingled loans under oath, today we get the third and last (for the time being) testimony of the former CEO of Goldman and MF Global, this time to the House Financial Services Committee. Grab your popcorn, the hearing is live, and Jon Corzine is about to sound just like Hank Paulson because this time it will be a little more difficult to "recall" events that happened 6 weeks ago, now that the CME chairman has been kind enough to remind him.

Barney Frank preparing to tear Corzine a new one

From Congress:

The Financial Services Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee will examine the decisions and events leading up to the collapse of MF Global during a hearing on Thursday. At the hearing, the Subcommittee will hear from Jon Corzine, the former chief executive officer of MF Global, as well as regulators of the firm and the bankruptcy trustee.

The Subcommittee hearing will also focus on the effectiveness of regulators in overseeing the firm’s activities, the impact that MF Global’s bankruptcy will have on its customers, and the decision by the New York Federal Reserve to grant MF Global primary dealer status.

Since November, the Subcommittee has been at the forefront of investigating the downfall of MF Global. The Subcommittee has obtained hundreds of documents and other materials concerning MF Global and interviewed more than a dozen individuals.  On December 7, the Subcommittee unanimously voted to issue a subpoena to compel Corzine’s appearance.

Subcommittee Chairman Randy Neugebauer said, “Building upon the earlier hearings held by the House and Senate Agriculture Committees, the Subcommittee will continue to pursue any and all facts pertaining to investment decisions that led to MF Global’s collapse and the activities at MF Global in the days and weeks leading to its collapse. Clearly, there is much work to be done in order for the MF Global investors to discover what occurred prior to the firm’s collapse. In order for our financial institutions to have credibility in the global market place, and for our regulatory institutions to have credibility with the taxpayer, the Subcommittee will continue to examine not only Mr. Corzine’s actions, but also the effectiveness of several regulatory entities that at first glance seem to have been asleep at the switch.”

MF Global filed for bankruptcy on October 31, 2011. MF Global’s demise has had a negative impact on its customers. The bankruptcy trustee reported in November that customer funds were not segregated as required by law. The bankruptcy trustee also found approximately $1.2 billion in customer funds are missing.  This is the first time in the futures industry’s history that a customer has suffered a loss as a result of a clearing members’ improper handling of customer funds.  

Click here to view the Committee’s memo for the hearing.

Witnesses Scheduled To Testify:

Panel I:
Jon Corzine, former Chief Executive Officer, MF Global

Bradley Abelow, Chief Operating Officer, MF Global

Panel II
Daniel M. Berkowitz, General Counsel, Commodity Futures Trading Commission

Robert Cook, Director, Division of Trading and Markets, U.S. Securities Exchange Commission

Terry Duffy, Executive Chairman, CME Group

Richard Ketchum, President, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Financial Industry Regulatory Authority

James Kobrak, Jr., Chief Counsel to Mr. James Giddens, Bankruptcy Trustee for MF Global Inc.

Thomas C. Baxter, Jr., General Counsel, Federal Reserve Bank of New York

 

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Thu, 12/15/2011 - 16:53 | 1984719 loveyajimbo
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Questions may be complex, answers will be the same... uh... I dunno.  Prison awaits, make room for Gensler, into this up to his corrupt eyeballs... and Dimon at JP Morgan is all bent to hell a well...  AG Holder is still doing nothing... probably watching Ward abuse the beaver...

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 16:53 | 1984724 divide_by_zero
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Repo105s just came up, Corzine denies they did them.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 16:55 | 1984732 RichardENixon
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I'm familiar with the article.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 16:55 | 1984734 robertocarlos
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Haha, He just called Corzine a God damn liar.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:25 | 1984739 fuu
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Didn't Corzine already answer earlier that he had read the article and had no opinion, and now he just stated that he has not heard of it? Posey and Pearce are after him about this.

 

Posey just called him slippery while dry.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 16:58 | 1984749 Seasmoke
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TREASURY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 16:59 | 1984753 JackB
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Will Corzine be doing the "perp walk"?

He should, but being such a valued crony...and a significant bag man to boot, he'll be saved that embarrassment is my guess, unless it serves Obama's campaign...in which case he'll pledge to fall on his sword.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 16:59 | 1984757 hangemhigh77
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Are you a scumbag kinda guy??

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:00 | 1984760 hangemhigh77
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Expertize?  Like lying and stealing?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:01 | 1984764 No One
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I fear that Corzine will be the only tarred and feathered. MF Global will be labeled as the one and only bad apple, and the rest of the looting will proceed uninterrupted.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:08 | 1984795 SqueekyFromm
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Mr. Durden,

It seems to me like a lot of these congressmen have little idea what they are talking about and this stuff is over their heads.  Sooo, I wonder if maybe people here could cooperate on a list of questions for them to ask Corzine and others??? Maybe it could be an open thread or something, and people here could put their questions in and the good and relevant ones could be forwarded to different people in Congress prior to the hearings.

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:10 | 1984817 RichardENixon
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I have a question for Mr. Corzine: Where can I get a printout showing the debits and credits posted to your client's accounts? If you were using Quickbooks, this could be produced in a matter of hours. If you don't know, and I'm sure you don't, do you think you could get me the name of someone who does?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 20:06 | 1985572 karzai_luver
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They have about 100 sets of books.

 

What they don't like to tell you (both sides of the table) is that most of these super duper financial titans don't have any idea what entries are made around the world at all their various skimming joints.

 

That is why the claims they all make as to their super key man status is bullshit.

 

Any bum with a purty mouth and a smooth line will do.

 

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:13 | 1984832 Geruda
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!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:13 | 1984834 Geruda
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sqeeky, your idea would be having more influence if you would be having a list of questions for being an example of the questions other peoples should be writing and having too.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:38 | 1984933 SqueekyFromm
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Geruda: I will try:

Mr. Corzine, is it true that your increase in holding European debt would have been a zero sum game, whether you won or lost?

If so, then wasn't the collapse of MF simply due to what could be categorized as a huge bet???

Does any SMART gambler you know bet his entire stake on a risky hand, or is that a sign of a compulsive gambler???

Isn't this why MF had a "risk manager" . . . to make sure the firm was not over-invested in a single bet???

Are you Mr. Corzine, a compulsive gambler???

Mr. Corzine, where are you sleeping tonight??? It isn't in your automobile is it???

Aren't you aware that some of your employees and customers may well be put into that danger due to your recklessness?

How much cash and assets do you personally have at this time???

Mr. Corzine, how much extra bonus or compensation did you stand to make if your "bet" had paid off???

Mr. Corzine, if you picked up $6 Billion in EuroSovBets, what percentage of the equity of MF global did that represent at the time???

Mr. Corzine, did you bet any of your PERSONAL wealth in the same bets you picked for MF global???

Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

 

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:46 | 1985052 Burr's 2nd Shot
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If I may?

How many accounts were out of reconciliation for each of the days in the week beginning October 24, 2011? 

When the accounts failed to reconcile, was this across all acounts, or were the failed reconciliations confined to a few accounts?

If the process was to repo out the cash in the customer accounts and replace them with treasuries (or other, similar assets), did the reconciliation fail from the substitution or the replacement?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:08 | 1984801 jmcadg
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Don't cover for scum like Dimon, go down a hero by landing the heinous shit face first in it.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:08 | 1984804 hangemhigh77
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Ask him the same question 50 times and see if you get a different answer.  Ask him questions where if he admits it he's incriminating himself. Ask him questions where he has to LIE to answer them.  Stop having BULLSHIT conversations with him.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:09 | 1984811 RopeADope
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If these pretentious pontificating bastards would just ask Corzine how much of the shortfall is due to slippage in the collateral transfers and how much was siezed by creditors (JPM) through margin calls after the firm was technically bankrupt we would not be subjected to to the drivel coming out of Frank and Baca's orifices.

 

Anything else is just politicians masturbating in public.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:23 | 1984897 hangemhigh77
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he just asked your question

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:24 | 1984899 fuu
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He was just asked your exact question by Canseco.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:09 | 1984814 jmcadg
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ug ug ug ug Abelow. You stuttering moron. Bubba will knock that stutter well and truly out of you.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:11 | 1984819 hangemhigh77
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Call him a fucking liar.  Call him a fucking thief. INTIMIDATE HIM instaed of KISSING HIS ASS.  It isn't FAIR??!!!  This guy robbed innocent people and this fucking clown is worried about being FAIR????  

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:12 | 1984825 hangemhigh77
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who is the other clown who all he says is "I don't know?"  Where do you sign up for his job??

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:18 | 1984864 fuu
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He got a $3,000,000 guarantee for that work out.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:12 | 1984830 jmcadg
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Mr Abelow - "Can you tie your shoelaces?"

Ug Ug Ug I don't know!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:13 | 1984835 Seasmoke
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JP MORGAN !!!!!!!!............JAMIE OWNS EVEN CORZINE

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:14 | 1984842 Kasperfx
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PUT THEM IN JAIL RIGHT NOW, THSES GUYS ARE PLAYING DUMB!! 

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:14 | 1984843 hangemhigh77
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What a SHAME this scumbag didn't die in that car.  Damn.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:15 | 1984849 GrinandBearit
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I remember Hank Paulson stuttering squirming when questioned, but Corzine does not appear to be squiming at all.  

Unfortunately, I predict he will walk and nothing will happen to him... maybe a small fine. 

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:18 | 1984865 hangemhigh77
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thats why we need lynchmobs and hit squads.  Justice  REAL justice

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:21 | 1984880 Seasmoke
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can you believe those 2 fuckers were in charge of goldman Sachs AT THE SAME TIME

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:16 | 1984852 hangemhigh77
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WE NEED LYNCHMOBS!!!!!!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:17 | 1984860 hangemhigh77
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1.5 MIL!!!!!  FUCK THIS CLOWN MOTHERFUCKER!!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:17 | 1984861 hangemhigh77
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3 mil for that JERKOFF??!!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:18 | 1984866 Seasmoke
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$3 Million for Abelow !!!.........Someone was robbed !!!!!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:19 | 1984869 sabra1
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Corzine about to star in the next epic film, "Treasury Island!"

 

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:21 | 1984877 hangemhigh77
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Tattoo IDK on his forehead.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:22 | 1984887 hangemhigh77
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the 3 million dollar man speaks.....I don't know. I don't know  ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!  KILL THIS ASSHOLE

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:22 | 1984888 jmcadg
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Slippery when dry.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:23 | 1984893 Seasmoke
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i have changed my mind, let corzine go, hang that prick Abelow

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:23 | 1984900 jmcadg
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Corzine is scum. But Abelow is retarded scum.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:24 | 1984908 hangemhigh77
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If ANY of you ASSHOLE politicians are reading this, you're all a bunch of stupid motherfucking lying crooks.  FUCK ALL OF YOU!!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:26 | 1984916 hangemhigh77
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If ANY of you little PRICKS ave anu balls get up off your ass and punch that motherfucker Cockzine in the fucking mouth.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:26 | 1984919 stopcpdotcom
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Is 'I don't know' the new 'I take the Fifth'?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:28 | 1984934 Seasmoke
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the slime think it makes them look better............after watching this, it does NOT

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:28 | 1984931 jmcadg
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Having the word "fucking" in the words you are writing is making you having a bad impression.  It is a signal of bad intelligences to be using words that are having such bad sounding.

Trust me using 'fucking' does not show a lack of intelligence, just anger.

PS. I think you mean't to type

'Using the word 'fucking' in the comments you write, give a bad impression. It is a sign of poor intelligence to use words that are obscenities.

Just saying. ;)

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:33 | 1984964 hangemhigh77
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whatever.  If ever there was an appropriate time to us eht e word FUCKING it's in reference to this BULLSHIT panel and anything to do with jon COCKzine.  FUCK HIM.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:29 | 1984935 navy62802
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This guy is lying his ass off. Should have taken the fifth and been done with it. He's cooking his own goose with this testimony.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:34 | 1984971 twotraps
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Exactly, we don't have a 'crisis' here, we have fraud and someone will get prosecuted.  He sits there with absolutely no fear.  Long fall from Goldman to MF....just like Refco.  I thought the 200 million they were hiding was bad, lets see how much jail time anyone gets for 1.2Billion.  

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:36 | 1984985 hangemhigh77
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Jailtime for a bankster?  R U smoking crack or shooting heroin or dropping acid? Or all three??

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:32 | 1984953 hangemhigh77
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This whole thing is just a fucking JOKE!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:33 | 1984960 jmcadg
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Did you clock the smug lawyers grinning on their way out.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:35 | 1984975 hangemhigh77
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Does ANYONE expect ANYONE to believe ANY of this BULLSHIT!!???  Just because I don't have power doesn't mean I'm STUPID.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:36 | 1984983 vincent
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He may be choosing words carefully

He may be trying to save his own ass

He may  be a liar and a criminal

He is afraid.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:37 | 1984994 hangemhigh77
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seriously he looks like he KNOWS this is just a dog and pony show and nothing will happen to him. It looks like he's trying to keep from laughing.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:37 | 1984990 jmcadg
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Phew, all done.

Corzine is back to the hotel to do a few lines, fuck some hookers.

Abelow off to his hotel to take it up the arse from his lover.

Allegedly

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:39 | 1985002 hangemhigh77
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I think Abelow doesn't know if he's gonna take it up the ass tonight.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:39 | 1985004 hangemhigh77
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SEC- Head Porn Surfer

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:40 | 1985009 hangemhigh77
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he's a dic smoker.  Bwaney Fwank must love this guy.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:41 | 1985021 hangemhigh77
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this guy couldn't identify his own cock if he held it in his hand

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:43 | 1985031 jmcadg
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Hangemhigh77

I think Abelow doesn't know if he's gonna take it up the ass tonight.

LMFAO

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:45 | 1985044 hangemhigh77
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glad you likied it and I didn't even use the word "fuck" although I do think it would have added some emphasis.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:43 | 1985032 hangemhigh77
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How do people like this get into positions of power??!!!  I guess BJ's are a pretty powerful thing

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:44 | 1985038 jmcadg
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Duffy's up

Let's have some more juice.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:44 | 1985040 Madcow
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Jamie Dimon threatened to KILL Corzine if he didn't take customer money to post as collateral to JPM ???

Isn't that against the law?

Fri, 12/16/2011 - 04:39 | 1986259 TruthInSunshine
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Not their law - post hac Devil drafted contract signing/soul pledge, in the land where men make money their god.

In fact, it not only enforceable, but customary.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:46 | 1985048 jmcadg
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No you showed far more intelligence than me. Hats off.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:46 | 1985049 hangemhigh77
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CFTC informed someone of something?  Incredible!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:47 | 1985056 hangemhigh77
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CFTC "investigated"?  No way.  Really?  No way.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:48 | 1985059 Number 156
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Somebody just served him papers during the break time!  HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:48 | 1985060 hangemhigh77
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Being under control of MF management must have been like watching cartoons on Saturday morning.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:49 | 1985068 hangemhigh77
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work with congress?   Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:50 | 1985075 hangemhigh77
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WHY do these guys STILL have their jobs?  NOBODY gets fired anymore!!  FIRE THESE ASSHOLES AND THROW THEM IN JAIL!!!!!

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:53 | 1985090 davepowers
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sorry this is off topic but it looks like QE 3 has started after all

the new Fed balance sheet shows a sudden bump in MBS to the tune of $31 bn. This asset category has been largely quiet for a long time.

This does not appear to be related to the Euro swaps, which now appear as a sep. line item asset wise (up $52 bn this week).

On balance, the FED added $81 bn in assets.

The Fed paid for this by typing up bank reserves (shows as a liability on the BS) by $65 bn. Paying for MBS purchases by this form of printing is pure QE.

The rest of liability side offsets came from the stellarly opaque 'other liabilities' which increased by $12 bn.

QE = back

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 18:43 | 1985175 divide_by_zero
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Coincidentally he just told Congress he wouldn't bail Eurobanks. He started the  first round of monetization right after he told Congress he wouldn't monetize debt, no?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 19:08 | 1985363 blu
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Nice catch.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 17:55 | 1985104 ThisIsBob
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Wouldn't it be cool if it was Venezuelan/Iranian hackers that blew them up?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 18:05 | 1985142 Joebloinvestor
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Baxter needs to be fired.

 

What a bunch of horseshit.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 18:23 | 1985202 saints51
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You know what? It doesn't matter anymore. It really doesn't. Its all horse shit until we start seeing TPTB arrested. This is nothing more than the fall guy while the elite run away with the loot. This is not justice, it really isn't. Thats why this upsets me. Fucking assholes. Give me 5 minutes alone with the pricks who really run the game. Thats all I want. sigh..

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 18:34 | 1985250 Madcow
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not to be flip but - how can i track a $5 paypal purchase across the globe - while MFG 'loses' over a $ Billion?   I'm not a trader so i have no idea how this works.  Are these trades not written down somewhere ?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 18:39 | 1985265 Watts_D_Matter
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If Congress wants to save taxpayer dollars and find out what happened to the assets and who did what....I say WATERBOARD FUCKIN CORZINE!  It will take ten seconds to get a full confession...Then have Barney Frank ass fuck him for shits and giggles...

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 19:05 | 1985357 blu
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No way Barney would do that. He's retiring from public service.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 18:51 | 1985309 RopeADope
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As it is now legal to detain FEDNY, MF Global and JPM officials indefinitely without due process I am quite confident Mike Capuano, Quico Canseco & a Taser can find a truly bipartisan solution.

 

And they won't spend 2 years debating who should go first.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 19:21 | 1985403 Arkadaba
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What district does Capuano represent? I like that guy.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 18:57 | 1985325 silverserfer
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"many of the clients who lost money were farmers"

 this may take a little more time to build up steam but people WILL be gong to jail for this. It is an election year.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 19:02 | 1985345 eblair
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Did they get Baxter from central casting?

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 19:17 | 1985388 I am a Man I am...
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the only one that appears to be straight up and honest is no college degree duffy

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 19:31 | 1985441 NotApplicable
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So, what you're saying is that they'll charge him with perjury for saying mean things about Corzine.

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 19:33 | 1985448 The Fonz...befo...
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Haha look at me I'm not a suit I'm one of the 99 per centers please don't string me up a lamp post when TSHTF

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