Mad Cow Slaughters Cattle Bulls As Animal Spirits Doused

UPDATE: via Bloomberg:

*MEAT FROM ANIMAL DID NOT ENTER FOOD CHAIN, USDA SAYS

*COW WITH MAD-COW DISEASE CONFIRMED IN CALIFORNIA, USDA SAYS

Rumors of the return of bovine spongiform encephalopathy - or mad cow disease - in the US as the USDA conducts a conference to discuss the potential find of an infected animal has sent Live and Feeder Cattle futures limit-down and back to almost 8 month lows prices. The find has been confirmed, according to The Farmer-Stockman. Now, where is that zombie survival chart?

Live Cattle Futures...

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Charts: Bloomberg

Comments

[buzzsaw99]

Cheap steaks. Good.

[Unprepared]

That's what happens when one is exposed to MAD MONEY for too long.

[ihedgemyhedges]

Good way to distract the masses............

[SheepDog-One]

Anything for a distraction these days even if its only for a few hours.....theyre fukin desperate.

[mophead]

Oh no! MAD COW!

Well, I guess they're just going to have to slaughter lots of cows. Gee, I wonder what that will do to prices?

[spiral_eyes]

Organic, locally-sourced food, bitchez.

[NotApplicable]

Long pig, it's what's for dinner.

[knukles]

Date line April 24, Stockaton, CA

Farmer Brown
who was bald on top
said he wished he could
rotate the crop

Farmer Brown, after offering his fence posts  naming rights to Burma Shave for sinage to recapture lost revenue from his now semi-quarantinened dairy herd supposedly being purchased by AID for distribution to rocket scientists in N Korea and Iran, revealed today that his cow found infeced with BSE had been of late frequently taking meals in the Senate Dining Room.

[harlanaladd]

Lots of comments here mentioning prions as settled science.  Not so sure, myself. To get you started, see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Purdey

Purdey found a link between BSE and soils depleted of copper and selenium while simultaneously abnomally high in manganese. Interesting enough to make me question the standard "prion" story. 

That Mush for brains has a nutritional component, and that "conventionally" raised cattle should suffer health effects should surprise no one.  Pastured meat is the way to go.

[JeffB]

Did he postulate a cause for soils depleted of copper and selenium while simultaneously abnomally high in manganese? If that is a naturally random occurrence wouldn't pastured meat has the same or similar issues?

Btw, did he do his research in Washington D.C.? There's obviously a high concentration of mush for brains there, but may be too small a sample size.

[mophead]

Here's another one:

"Tree disease threatens $2 billion California citrus industry

(Reuters) - California orange and lemon growers are bracing for a deadly bacterial disease that could ravage the state's $2 billion citrus industry after the first infected tree in the state was identified in a suburban Los Angeles yard."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/20/us-usa-citrus-california-idUSB...

It's all orchestrated. Pure Keynesians desperation. Anything to make food prices go up.

[mophead]

"Never in our history have we dealt with a disease that is this persistent, and we have searched the world for 50 years and have not been able to find resistance to this bacteria," Batkin said.

Make the lie BIG!

"State agricultural officials have set up a quarantine area of some 20,700 square miles (53,600 square km) to prevent potentially infected fruit from leaving a region that spans six California counties."

Translation: state agricultural hitmen are going to stage a quarantine in a large area, then infect those trees while no one is looking.

"Growers are worried that if the disease spreads north it could wreak havoc on the prized orchards in California's Central Valley, the heart of the state's $2 billion citrus industry, causing significant losses in revenue and jobs."

But smart growers and land owners know that prices will rise as a result, so in the long run, they'll be more profitable. They just need to weather the storm. Got cash?

"The March 30 detection has sent growers racing to set up bug traps, hoping to stave off the advance of a deadly pathogen that already has cost billions of dollars in damage to citrus crops in Florida since 2005."

This alone will make prices go up.

"The state and the industry have spent millions of dollars to curtail a potential outbreak of the disease, according to the California Department of Food and Agriculture."

Why would the state spend money to curtail the problem? I'm baffled. If they let the trees get infected, then production will go down (temporarily) and prices will go up. Eventually production will return to normal, yet prices will stay high. If prices are higher, then revenue goes up, and if revenue goes up, growers will pay more in income taxes. And, property values will go up, higher property values = higher property taxes.

Can someone please explain why it is in the state's interest to save these trees?????????? You'd think they would try to destroy the trees, right??? Don't you think??

NAH - THEY WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT!

THE STATE WOULD NEVER:

* BURN THE CROPS

* SLAUGHTER THE HOGS

* DUMP THE MILK

...TO MAKE PRICES GO UP! NEVER!

[PersonalRespons...]

Well, you know, when cows, crops, trees, fruit are all laced with cesium and plutonium, you'd better burry it all.  Good luck.

[A Nanny Moose]

Don't mandate spraying of mala-fucking-thion from hueys in the middle of the night, then ask why all the goddamed bees are disappearing.

/facepalm

[JeffB]

That doesn't sound all that Keynesian to me. Why have deadly bacteria do all the work? Even if they're highly paid, it would only take a mad scientist or two to grow the bacteria which would really do all of the dirty work.

Unless maybe they're planning on hiring thousands of workers to dig up the trees and thousands more to fill in the holes, of course.

[Buck Johnson]

No kidding, what else happened today that wasn't reported well or put on the back page.

[Sauk Leader]

This article just doesn't make sense. I thought "happy" cows come from california

http://www.realcaliforniamilk.com/advertising/happy-cows-spots/ 

[mkkby]

Time to short MCD?  It just got a lot more dangerous to eat pink slime burgers.  Too bad the sheeple will never notice or care, unless a contestant on survivor or dances with the stars mentions it.

[Iwanttoknow]

Brilliant.

[ShankyS]

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[GeneMarchbanks]

Exceptionally clever, only problem is I now have splattered cow all over my post and as you can see I'm a vegetarian.

Thanks for nothing.

[mayhem_korner]

I now have splattered cow all over my post

Never heard it described quite like that.  Is that what you tell your wife when she walks in on your little party of one?

[GeneMarchbanks]

Vegetarian five years now, in other words, I care not.

[francis_sawyer]

<golf clap>

[Gully Foyle]

GeneMarchbanks

Been there, added seafood and eggs for the protein. Already ate Cheese/Milk.

Then again I have been one since I was fifteen, over thirty years now.

You can feel the difference in the diet with and without the added protein.

[steve from virginia]

Vegetarian/vegan for 30 years now:

Don't care, eat meat and die stupid.

[Paul Atreides]

Ever get the feeling that vegetarians consider themselves morally superior to you? Like they think that not eating meat makes them so special that their shit doesn't stink? As if when someone stops eating meat, they suddenly become holy and dignified and it excuses them for the years of inconvenience and frustration they inevitably inflict upon their friends, family and co-workers who just want to go to a restaurant and order a damn steak without constantly being reminded that they're going to hell for eating an animal that spends most of its life shitting in a field. There are those of us who don't have a hyperactive sense of guilt and we don't give a shit about your mixed up self-righteous moral vegetarian agenda.

[mayhem_korner]

Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."  For why should my freedom be judged by another's conscience?  (1 Corinthians 10:25-26, 29)

[Paul Atreides]

"Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food"- 1Cor.6:13

Here is a little more humour for your day:

Theo The Angry Vegan

[Pure Evil]

They've yet to ponder that all their veggies are fed bone meal.

[LFMayor]

I can't wait,  vegans will be like veal after the collapse.  So tender and full of taste.

Wendigo Meats, LLC.

[NotApplicable]

They're awfully damn bitter, though.

[Pure Evil]

Better stock up on Heinz 57!

[Divine Wind]

Look up the word 'vegetarian' in any Native American language dictionary.

Here is the old Navajo definition:

 vej-e-'ter-e-en. noun.  Definition of VEGETARIAN:   BAD HUNTER

[i-dog]

Vegetarianism is no different from any other religion ... it's just a belief system. If only they wouldn't try to convert others to their cult!

Here's how to deal with them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ

[BoNeSxxx]

If God did not intend for us to eat animals, He would not have made them out of meat...

Disclaimer: I am an atheist and the above means nothing to me except I saw it on a bumper sticker and it made me laugh... seems appropiate for today's little distraction.

[Pure Evil]

Without proselytizers we have no converts for the cult.

[Stuck on Zero]

Frankly speaking, I'm a 2nd order vegetarian.  Yes that's right.  Second order.  That means I only eat animlas that are vegetarians.

[Pure Evil]

At least you're getting your veggies second hand.

[fasTTcar]

Word to my veggie friends.  

My food shits on your food.  

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_akLHpeO7qyA/TAQ7e-MTdUI/AAAAAAAABSQ/mdLaCLtJDm...

[john39]

or, don't eat meat and die.  hmm....

[daveeemc2]

and whats protecting u from [omni|carna]vores?

Ecoli on spinach, listeria on cantaloupe.

Disposal practices of human sewage sludge is an important issue to anyone who eats.<p>

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/29274403/detail.html

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h254/show

Maybe think about voting for food saftey if u give a chit....literally.

[GeneMarchbanks]

Those seem to be mostly a US phenomenon. Local food would take care of many problems yet the Burger King is mighty convenient. You choose.

[NotApplicable]

Funny, other than choosing the restaurant where my dollar goes, I've never been given the opportunity to vote for safe food. Part of me would think it's a waste, as I can't imagine who would vote no.

But hey, I've seen sillier things on ballots.

[daveeemc2]

You'd be suprised.

In gubamint, u can redefine things to make them safe.

Toxic sewage sludge is now called biosolids, so its now safe.  Rep. Mick Mulvaney says so.

Only in america can u change the legal definition of chit to be something other than.

A rose by any other name....  http://vimeo.com/24854061

www.amazon.com/Toxic-Sludge-Good-For-You/dp/1567510604

[WillyGroper]

>>>>>>>Part of me would think it's a waste, 

 Funny, your superior intellect greases the wheels of the criminal enterprise because you can't imagine who would vote no for safe food as though choosing a restaurant would be your only exposure. Perhaps your normalcy bias is what's retarding your imagination or critical thinking ablilty. 

I thought it impossible from my unrealistic perspective, but I'm truly thunderstruckfuck amazed again.

[A Nanny Moose]

Either way, this is why we drink.

/cheers.

[blu]

You'll change your tune once they discover an instance of mad aspargus disease.

[earleflorida]

The bee colonies are all vanishing fast, with the farmers nervous  - no polination = no crops -- but, Monsanto, and Dow Chem, et.el. say not to worry. Their hy-brid one season , two-season max seeds are insect repellent,... but fail to tell us that the residual insecticides that leech out from within crop soil are toxic pollutants mutations reinventing their genetic map as fast as the farmer can til --- every  coming seasons grows worse as the bee's feed on the toxic pollen loosing their internal gyroscope mapping system, literally flying in circles --- just like a mad cow chases his tail before it collapses. time for organic farming, or their will be no juice to go with your veggies --- or evening wine?  

[francis_sawyer]

bee colonies are vanishing... Thanks BAYER!

[NoClueSneaker]

Anything to eat without a proper Monsanto label will be considered as an terrorist act .Soon.

[bobola]

Gone,

Same here.  Haven't eaten meat for years.

Two wheel push biker as well.

Let the gas price rise and the mad cow spread...I care not....

The more relaint sheeple are on corporate control, the more they will get fucked with.  

Free yourselves...live outside the influence of corporate control....

[mayhem_korner]

live outside the influence of corporate control

...says the nuts & berries dood as he types on his Toshiba satellite using Verizon wi-fi network and Netgear router through a Cisco server with Google ad banners all around. 

[HardwoodAg]

In this day and age, I'd be leery of dining on just stuff that food eats.

[JeffB]

Vegetarians could be affected as well, at least according to some:

"Not even vegetarians are immune: white sugar is bleached with cow bones, and McDonalds French fries, advertised as prepared in “pure vegetable oil,” are seasoned–like many products with “natural flavors”–with beef fat."

"Not only meat, but many processed foods, drugs, vaccines, surgical instruments, dietary supplements and even cosmetics may carry this plague,"

Even if the disease isn't a threat to you personally, it could certainly affect family, friends, loved ones, employers, employees, customers etc.

There could also potentially be an economic effect on health care, bailouts for ranchers, and might even make the cost of your fruits and vegetables jump if consumers suddenly run from eating meat.

[Gully Foyle]

I guess you all missed this

https://leisureguy.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/or-is-it-not-alzheimers-but-...

Or is it not Alzheimer’s, but mad-cow disease?

The March 21, 2007 edition of the New York Times featured an article called “Prevalence of Alzheimer’s Rises 10% in 5 Years.” It began: “More than five million Americans have Alzheimer’s disease, a 10 percent increase from the last official tally five years ago, and a number expected to more than triple by 2050.” Alzheimer’s disease, it seems, now afflicts 13% of people 65 and over, and 42% of those past 85.

The piece also reported “the startling finding that 200,000 to 500,000 people younger than 65 have some form of early onset form of dementia, including a rare form of Alzheimer’s disease that strikes people in their 30s and 40s.” The Times adds: “Apart from early onset cases, the primary risk factor for Alzheimer’s disease is age.”

But, dear reader, there’s a cow-shaped risk factor sitting in the corner-ignored by the newspaper of record (and essentially all major media outlets). And it’s a very mad cow.

Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) has earned the pithy nickname “mad cow disease” thanks to the invidious symptoms presented in affected cattle, i.e. staggering, tremors, involuntary muscle spasms, bewilderment, hypersensitivity to auditory and tactile stimuli, and other examples of seemingly “mad” behavior.

Like BSE, Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD) is also a transmissible, invariably fatal spongiform encephalopathy with a prolonged incubation period that leaves sponge-like holes in a victim’s brain. CJD, however, is the human version and this includes a newly identified variant of CJD, linked to BSE in British cattle.

“In humans,” says author and environmentalist, Peter Montague, “the BSE-like disease is called ‘new variant Creutzfeld-Jacob disease,’ or nvCJD for short. CJD has been recognized for a long time as a rare disease of the elderly—very similar to Alzheimer’s disease—but nvCJD is different. It has somewhat different symptoms, a different pattern of disintegration in the brain, and it strikes young people, even teenagers. Between 1995 and early 1998, at least 23 people died of nvCJD in Britain and at least one in France, the oldest of them age 42 and the youngest 15.” (Yet the Times is “startled” by the rise in dementia in younger and younger people.)

“CJD robs victims of lucidity, control and life over a period ranging from six months to three years from the onset of symptoms, which can take from 10 to 40 years to manifest,” writes journalist Gabe Kirchheimer. According to Nobel Prize winner Stanley B. Prusiner, fatal neurodegenerative diseases of animals and humans (like BSE and CJD) are thought to be caused by infectious proteins called “prions.” Perhaps what is most disquieting about this hypothesis is that, unlike viruses and bacteria, prions remain infectious even after being baked at 680° F for on hour (enough to melt lead), bombarded with radiation, and/or soaked in formaldehyde, bleach, and boiling water.

“CJD is 100 percent fatal,” adds Kirchheimer. “There is no treatment or cure. As no blood test for the living is available, CJD has been definitively diagnosed only through brain biopsy.”

Studies cited by Kirchheimer indicate it is likely that “tens or even hundreds of thousands of people are dying right now of undiagnosed or misdiagnosed CJD.” Government figures estimate approximately 200 to 300 cases of CJD have been diagnosed in the U.S. Before you take comfort in that modest figure, bear in mind the findings of John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton. The authors of Mad Cow USA learned that while some four million Americans (at the time) had been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease, autopsies revealed roughly 25% of alleged Alzheimer’s deaths were caused instead by other forms of dementia. One percent of these misdiagnosed deaths have been ultimately attributed to CJD. If this trend is extrapolated and one percent of the now five million Americans with Alzheimer’s actually have CJD (or nvCJD), the nationwide estimate rises dramatically from 200 to 50,000 cases.

[JohnKozac]

My Mother told me masturbation causes my problem...you mean it's Mad Cow Disease?!

[Gully Foyle]

JohnKozac

No, in your case your mother was right.

You may wish to consider the treatment Asian gangsters gave the Accountant on Sons of Anarchy.

[Obadiah]

I cry bullshit.

More propaganda bullshit.

Beef rulez if you do it right.

Thats how GOD wanted it.

[Mercury]

Yeah well apparently the Devil wants prions.

You think Spirochaetes (Lyme disease) are bad, prions are like five wrinkly, evil proteins strung together (doesn't even have DNA)  which can force surrounding proteins into morphing into their crooked state.

[NotApplicable]

Why, somebody should outlaw the DNAless bastards!

[NewWorldOrange]

It takes a temperature of 1000 F to destroy prions.

[SemperFord]

I agree, maybe the hormone juiced cattle will affect us in the long run but I eat meat and I am healthy and far from being a fat American. But let the propaganda continue, more meat for me!!!

[greensnacks]

"I cry bullshit."

Someone needed to supress inflation in softies.

[bobola]

Ob,

Agreed, but only if you know the source and quality controls.

Buy from a local farmer and all is well.

[hedgeless_horseman]

Be a local farmer and all is even better.

[daveeemc2]

Unless your neighbor is a dick and uses human feces sludge as fertilzier.

[Oh regional Indian]

Hmmmm.... if you eat a bull you cry bull-shit?

Man, if i were you I'd have my pipes checked. ;-)

And howsoever it might have been for all these centuries and millenia, NOW is a good time to go vegetarian. Totally. Buy a cow. Raise her calf too. Milk+Butter+Buttermilk+Yogurt+Ghee (clarified Butter, awesome stuff)......

Even the ROI works..... 10 steaks or 15 years of all fo the above? 

No contest at any level really. 

I'd recommend My year In Meats by Ruth Ozeki for anyoen interested in an ugly peek.

remember oprah Eating Cow a few weeks after she dared to take on Beef?

That is power. If your stuff was just good for people, you would not need it.

ori

[WillyGroper]

GF----It amazes me that our gbmt won't allow BSE testing of cattle. You might be interested in a docu "Under Our Skin". I got it thru NFLX, but u can watch it in segments on youtube. Numerous neurological diseases have been linked to lyme disease caused by a spirochete. My mother died a long grueling death from Parkinsons & I also have a cousin stricken by it. In this docu, it links this to not only Parkinsons but also Alzhiemers & numerous other maladies. 9 doctors connected with drug, insurance companies & universities came up with the CDC treatment protocal lasting only 2 weeks which is all that health insurance will pay for. Most doctors can't even diag much less treat lyme. A friend in VA got it & had to go to a dr. in MD to get it treated properly. The insurance companies are literally bringing suits against drs. ignoring the 2 week treatment protocal & successfully getting their licenses revoked & driving them into bankruptcy. In the docu it shows a young girl in her early 20's with Parkinsons symptoms. A Harvard doctor studied the brains of 10 alzhiemers patients & linked 7 out of 10 to lyme. Ironically, b4 he could complete his research, he too got alzhiemers. When u see how ins. co's, univ's & the ama have the witholding of treatment sewn up lock stock & smoking barrel it will make ur blood boil. It's well worth ur time. 

http://www.truthaboutlymedisease.com/

[NotApplicable]

It's not so amazing once you replace "our government" with "those bastard criminals."

Until you adopt a realistic perspective, you're going to experience this sense of amazement quite often. Afterwards? It becomes so perfectly clear, you can predict their every move (just not necessarily the timing).

[catacl1sm]

Note to self: don't eat people with dementia. check.

[Miffed Microbio...]

Well, if you're ever in a situation when you have to, just remember to remove the brains and spinal column carefully to not contaminate the rest of the meat (most likely place the prions concentrate). Hey, I was just thinking that in a post Apocalyptic world we may need all the usable protein we can get! This is why I'm wary of the pink slime....to easy to throw these "hot" parts in and grind it up. Yeah and then dousing it with ammonia if that would do any good. Prions scare the hell out of me.. Basically game over.

Miffed :-)

[Escapeclaws]

Richard Rhodes said much the same thing 15 years ago. See his book, "Deadly Feasts".

http://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Feasts-Controversy-Publics-Health/dp/B005SN...

Be sure to read the Amazon comments as well--fascinating stuff!

[Mercury]

Nah, this is just to kick start the next leg of Michelle's healthy eating campaign.

...or possibly a cash-for-cowlunkers stimooolus.

[blu]

or possibly a cash-for-cowlunkers stimooolus.

I'm pretty sure they have a special ring in hell reserved just for you.

[Mercury]

Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I'm no central planner.
And no, you shouldn't put it past them.

Let me be perfectly clear...this administration won't stand around when cows are falling down!

[Darth..Putter]

All this information was available in Scientific American a decade ago.

[Vincent Vega]

Know why it's called mad cow disease? Because PMS was already being used.

[the not so migh...]

Time to eat your peas americans

Obama 2012

[i-dog]

It worked for him. He ate so many that he won the Nobel Peas Prize!

Become a millionaire overnight ... eat your peas!

[JustObserving]

Good for inflation.  Fed can do QE3 now.  Or is it QE4?  

[lolmao500]

Titor right again!

Fact is, they've cut the money to look for mad cow disease (because the FDA are bought and paid for by the meat industry) and the whole ``we can detect it just by looking how cows walk`` is total bunk.

Most people have probably already eaten mad cow disease infected meat.

And guess what, it might take up to 30 years for symptoms to appear... and the symptoms are the SAME ONES as alzeihmer... so probably a whole lot people have died from it and don't know it. Thing is, mad cow disease wasn't around 20 years ago... so me thinks in the future we'll see a shitload of people with mad cow disease from all the contaminated meat eaten from the last decade...

[Gully Foyle]

lolmao500

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/9347413-andrew-carlssin-the-ma...

On January 28, 2003, A man named Andrew Carlssin being led by the FBI at the request of the SEC (Security and Exchange Commission) for interrogation on suspicion of insider trading. Suspicions that began when the SEC learned that Carlssin managed to increase their portfolio worth $ 800 to $ 350,000,000 in just two weeks. He put on 126 portfolios of risky trading decisions without even fail.

For years, the greatest trader on Wall Street suffered heavy losses due to exceptional market volatility. So when Carlssin experiencing an extraordinary gain of 126 trading decisions, traders become suspicious.

In his interrogation in the presence of the FBI, 44-year-old Carlssin provide exceptional explanation how he got such wealth. He admitted that he was from the year 2256.

The FBI says, "We're still trying to ferret out the source of it in trading. He will remain in jail until we get d information. "

During four hours of interrogation, Carlssin say that he is a time traveler, a native of the year 2256. He said, "I can not help myself, and I have been trying to look natural, to make me lose a little here, a little there. But it seems I get carried away with the atmosphere. "

Carlssin admitted that he came from the year 2256 in which knowledge about stock market volatility is something that is so common that every person who knows the history of the stock market to take advantage of it. To prove his claim, Carlssin provide predictions about the exact date the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and he gave the exact date. Carlssin also offers to let you know the location of Osama Bin Laden and cure for AIDS. All he wanted was released and allowed back into his time machine.

When asked, Carlssin refused to tell the location of machine time or discuss how it works for fear the technology could fall into the wrong hands. Of course the FBI does not just believe the story Carlssin. But a source from the SEC acknowledged that no one can trace the origins Carlssin before December 2002. Carlssin as if it never existed before.

However, the story of Carlssin not stop there. Carlssin story suddenly disappeared and never tilt again. Similarly existence. No media covered it again. The SEC and the FBI even then deny that they ever catch Carlssin. His lawyer said that Carlssin should meet with him to the hearing in court on April 2, 2003, but he does not appear, go away.

[Ag1761]

So GF, does that mean the can kicking goes on until at least 2256 and I wonder how many trillions in debt have been accumulated by then. One thing is sure, Silver will still be suppressed and bouncing along the low 30's.

[Axenolith]

But that'll be in Quatloos...

[NewWorldOrange]

Carlssin was lying. He wasn't a time traveler. He just had The Device.

As you may know, light can travel at many times the speed of light in a VACUUM if instead it travels thru certain other substances. If a laser is sent thru a tube of cesium vapor, it can travel 300 times or more faster than does in a vacuum ( http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v406/n6793/full/406277a0.html ). Due to relativistic effects, it therefore exits the chamber before it even enters, but the "prelay" (opposite of delay, also referred to as the "gain" in time) is very short. By feeding the exiting beam back into the input, and so on and on in an endless loop, prelays of much longer can be achieved. Carlssin had a close relationship with someone who worked in the secret lab at DARPA. She would encode test beams with stock market data, and retrieve them...up to 8 days BEFORE she sent them. She would then give the data to Carlssin.

Any questions?

(/sarc)

[catacl1sm]

Rise of the zombies. Coming to your neighborhood in 20 to 30.

[NewWorldOrange]

There could be some truth to that. According to a lot of scientists in the UK, millions there are likely already infected, and anyone who is ultimately falls ill (a few decades later.) I was in England about ten years ago after a major outbreak of Mad Cow and people were terrified everywhere you went. There were stories in the press almost every day about people killing themselves because they believed they were infected, or maybe knew they were. Everyone even came up with some name for such people, can't remember what it was.

[cossack55]

QUICK. Send it all to DC area restaurants.  Ooops. Did that 30 years ago.

[daveeemc2]

as they dump virulent human sewage on farm fields that contain any number of unimaginable diseases and virii, we wonder why the animals raised there might get sick.

Al Quaida aint nuthin - Human race, specifically americans, are their own worst enemy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sludge

[Obadiah]

I ve been around beef cattle since birth.

I know NO ONE that does this bullshit.  Do you believe eveything you read bro?  Was Carl a beliver in that?  Not a chance.

Do I have an axe to grind? effin A

[BLACK_DOG]

the sewage plant "solids" in my town go right out on the hay fields!

my father in law is a dairy farmer.

[daveeemc2]

U're father in law needs to read this

http://www.sludgenews.org/resources/documents/McElmurrayTestimony.pdf

300+ acres now so polluted it can no longer be used to grow food for humans.

USA - trying hard every day to become more like china

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15618700

[BLACK_DOG]

great article, thanks "daveeemc2"

[daveeemc2]

!

[daveeemc2]

Wake up bro.

http://lehighvalleywithlove.com/post/14933670982
http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/politics/local/x435839884/L-A-others-sue-Kern-County-over-sludge-again
http://www.heraldonline.com/2011/05/29/3105363/sludge-spreading-raises-stink.html

There's money involved.  Profit at all cost.  Farmers dont give a rats ass - if gubamint says its safe AND free, it is.

[steve from virginia]

Transmission pathway is through rendering industry. There is a BSE analog that effects deer and other hoofed animals/downer cattle/road kill. Carcasses are rendered into animal feed supplements particularly bone meal. this is fed to animals in CAFOs including chickens.

USDA prohibits spinal viscera and spinal column material in food however bone-stripping technology puts this material in 'pink slime'. Ammonia does not effect BSE prions: diseased 'products' are fed to school children.

Problems in UK were centered around knackers, who rendered cattle bones and connective tissue, this material found its way into hamburger.

The same disease is scrapie in sheep, it's been around for a long time.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0107-07.htm

[hedgeless_horseman]

Grass fed. 

It is the only way to be certain.

[NewWorldOrange]

Mad Cow Disease is the result of a fungus that grows on .... grass.

[Hulk]

cowshit, its caused by cows eating brain/nerve material of other cows...

[NewWorldOrange]

Thanks for the correction on that. You are pretty much correct. About 10 years ago I was in England not long after a big outbreak there. It was widely believed then that the grazing lands themselves were contaminated with the fungus (that's the "spongiform" in bovine spongiform encepholopathy) because it had been shown that the fungus was present in the urine of infected animals and so it spread by there urinating and eating grass. That's why they banned feed made from the remains of ruminants (animals that graze - and it's still banned in England.) But as I just learned, more current research seems to indicate that it seems to more often come from eating bone meal and other products derived from infected animals. However, the fungus has been detected in numerous tests on grass. Google this and most any source you'll find says the jury is still out and that it can be spread in all these ways, but that most scientists believe it is most often spread by what you stated. Thanks.

[Papasmurf]

Not really.  You may want to look up prion

[carlnpa]

This would actually explain the brain decay of the american population.

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy ( BSE), causes Creutzfeld Jakob disease in humans ie mush for brains.  Turns your brain into something resembling swiss cheese.

Another of our governments failures to protect us from the unscrupulous.

Anyone who has eaten fast food probably has it, now we know how the elite intend to get rid of us. 

Mush for brains.

"Pink slime" would be the perfect way to get it into our food system.

[NewWorldOrange]

"Anyone who has eaten fast food probably has it, now we know how the elite intend to get rid of us."

Highly unlikely, but not impossible. If that's the case, then hundreds of millions WILL DIE horrible deaths within 20 years or so. Zombie Land.

Man, all this talk about beef... I'm heading out to get a Jumbo Jack.

[carlnpa]

Creutz Jacobs was also highly unlikely in all those who got it in England also.

Pink slime would be an easy way to get BSE/Creutz Jacobs, and other interesting things, into the general population.

[NewWorldOrange]

You're right. Everyone will die horrible deaths within 20 years or less. Hope you feel better now.

[bunnyswanson]

I've had been a wife of a cattle rancher in California, central valley. 

In fact, the corrals where the cattle are kept, from birth to milk production or slaughter, have waste that is drained into a holding pond which is used to irrigate the nearby fields.  The hard waste is collected with a bulldozer, treated and used as fertilizer.  The soil is depleted from decades of planting crops around the year (winter wheat).  The cheapest fertilizer is the waste from the cattle.  The corn grown in our fields is used as feed.

I don't know how you could argue this point unless you have never seen a ranch in California. 

http://beefmagazine.com/sectors/feedlot/0801-california-feeders-stay-competitive

[Obadiah]

I thought we were talking HUMAN waste not cattle waste.

Cattle waste= good stuff bunny

wiki
Manures contribute to the fertility of the soil by adding organic matter and nutrients, such as nitrogen, that are trapped by bacteria in the soil. Higher organisms then feed on the fungi and bacteria in a chain of life that comprises the soil food web.It is also a product obtained after decomposition of organic matter like cow-dung which replenishes the soil with essential elements and add humus to the soil.

[CoolBeans]

No, no - not human waste...Corzine, etc.  You can find them in another ZH story.

[Papasmurf]

This is satisfactory recycling unless you recycle animal ruments.

[Joebloinvestor]

Do you really think the US is gonna admit to any potential health problem?

Remember AIDS?

England ignored it for as long as they could and it blew up in their faces.

Want to scare yourself, dig up the old 60 Minutes exposure of the beef inspection in the US.

Ya, watch Obamacare deal with a bunch of terminal Americans.

Expect "Death Panels"

[CoolBeans]

RE:  The 60 Minutes story --

I remember that story distinctly.  I was recovering from sinus surgery I had that day and made the mistake of watching it most of the way thru and it made me barf.  I couldn't eat meat for a long time thereafter.

[blu]

Ha. Very clever. I had to actually read the summary to make any actual sense of the title.

[monopoly]

Trading commodities is a death bell for most. Good way to get a heart attack at 35 if you are a commodities trader. Never, ever go there.

[Memphis10]

Good news for anyone who went short on Pink Slime...

[Papasmurf]

LONG HOT DOGS

[SheepDog-One]

Looks like T-bone grillin this weekend.

[blu]

You know cows got their madness from -- wait for it -- eating sheep.

So go at it sheep-thang -- cuz what goes around goes around or summat like that.

[Christoph830]

Bullish?

[sbenard]

Cattle futures now rebounding, have cut losses about in half.

[firstdivision]

Anyone know how much Hilary Clinton made off on this one?

[Dr. Engali]

When I first read the headline I thought it was going to be an article on the Apple bulls getting killed.

[sbenard]

Time for me to become a vegetarian!

[BLACK_DOG]

the commodities trader next door is eyeing up my dog.

[Dr. Engali]

I have a freezer full of deer meat. It's mostly natural , except for the genetically modified Monsanto corn it feeds on occasionally.  

[Pinktip]

I planted 5 acres of Heirloom corn last year next to a 70 acre field of GMO corn.   Tropical storm came thru in late Aug, early Sept and leveled most of it.  By the time I got into the field to pick it, most ears had been cleaned out by deer, turkey, racoons...etc.  I walked over to the GMO field after the chopper had gone thru, and there were  ears all over the ground that were untouched.

On the Mad cow.....renderings have been put back into commerical feeds.  IMHO, it has to have a negative impact.

[Jena]

Not so fast.  Check out chronic wasting disease, or cervid chronic wasting.  It's a prion-based transmissable spongiform encephalopathy of deer, elk and moose, first seen in the middle of the country (Colorado and Wyoming but now spreading into Canada and as far east as New York.  I've followed the incidence through Pro-Med but I don't know how it started.  If you hunt and dress your own deer, you should probably read up on this.  I know you ought to be very cautious about avoiding all contact with lymph and brain tissue and dumping any knives or implements that come into contact with them because prions cannot be removed via any sterilization method.

[NidStyles]

Cannibal Cows.

[davood]

The real cause of "mad cow disease" and almost all the new neuro-degenerative diseases such as MS, Parkinson's, "Chronic Fatique Syndrome", Fibromyalgia, Alzheimer's, Crohn's Colitis, etc., etc., etc. is something called the "mycoplasma" or "prion" which was specifically created by the U.S. military (at Fort Detrick* and elsewhere) to slowly kill the people of the West, especially the women:

http://d1161650.domain.com/01_25_01_hr1_donald_w_scott.mp3

http://d1161650.domain.com/01_25_01_hr2_donald_w_scott.mp3

http://d1161650.domain.com/01_25_01_hr3_donald_w_scott.mp3  (this is the most important segment and it explains why women are more affected than men starting at 2:40 or 7:00)

*Fort Detrick, Maryland is where both AIDS and Mycoplasma were engineered and perfected since it began its chemical and biological warfare research in 1942, and was converted to fight the so-called "War on CANCER" in 1971 by Presidente Tricky Dicky.

The "CANCER" they were fighting and ARE fighting are the "USELESS EATERS" of the world.

For an explanation of how AIDS (specifically created to kill off the people of Africa and other resource rich nations) and the Mycoplasma are related:

http://www.blackopradio.com/video/scott1a.wmv

http://www.blackopradio.com/video/scott1b.wmv

[Jena]

I admit I haven't checked your links out but there's a real difference between mycoplasma and the stubborn diseases caused by that class of infectious agent and prions, which cause the holes in brains -- which is why it is called a spongiform encephalopathy: literally a sponge-forming brain disease.

The other things, I think the jury is still out and I'm willing to bet that there is an infectious agent in there for some that sets off the immune system but let's not conflate extremes.

[davood]

Listen to this radio show.

You will come to the realization and conclusion that the effects (be it holes in the brains, diseased colon, etc.) are only dependent on the genetic disposition or genetic weakness of the victim, be it cows or humans, upon which the Mycoplasma or prion attacks.

[Jena]

That isn't true of everything but it's true of many things.  We all have genetic variations that make us sensitive to different bugs, true.  However, prions are such a primitive form that I think most of us would succumb were we to be exposed.

[TheGardener]

Cannibals are said to have a gene that protects them from prions.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3615-cannibalism-rife-among-prehis...

[Jena]

Interesting.  I guess it was one way for the species to survive.

[davood]

You bring up an interesting point in history that nobody knows about.  And no, cannibals do not have a gene that protects them from prions or Mycoplasma.

This whole "mad cow disease" really started with the Japanese (Unit 731 under General Dr. Ishii Shiro) experimenting on the Fore Tribe in New Guinea in 1942. They inoculated the tribe members "with a minced-up version of the brains of diseased 
sheep containing the visna virus which causes "mad cow disease" or CreutzfeldtJakob disease."

The Fore Tribe were cannibals who would eat the brains of their loved ones as a tribute to them when they die.  As the following article explains (http://www.whale.to/m/scott7.html):

"About five or six years later, after the Japanese had been driven out, the poor people of the Fore tribe developed what they called kuru, which was their word for "wasting", and they began to shake, lose their appetites and die. The autopsies revealed that their brains had literally turned to mush. They had contracted "mad cow disease" from the Japanese experiments.  

"When World War II ended, Dr Ishii Shiro--the medical doctor who was commissioned as a General in the Japanese Army so he could take command of Japan's biological warfare development, testing and deployment--was captured. He was given the choice of a job with the 

United States Army or execution as a war criminal. Not surprisingly, Dr Ishii Shiro chose to work with the US military to demonstrate how the Japanese had created mad cow disease in the Fore Indian tribe.  

"In 1957, when the disease was beginning to blossom in full among the Fore people, Dr Carleton Gajdusek of the US National Institutes of Health headed to New Guinea to determine how the minced-up brains of the visna-infected sheep affected them. He spent a couple of years there, studying the Fore people, and wrote an extensive report. He won the Nobel Prize for "discovering" kuru disease in the Fore tribe."

[rosiescenario]

Kuru found among the cannibals of New Guinea....they apparently were susceptible to that prion based brain disease.

[blu]

Prions are malformed proteins, or perhaps something only slightly more complex than that. They are not alive and do not appear associated with any kind of virus. They are the smallest disease-forming particle known. Since they have no cellular features nor any kind of genetic component they cannot reproduce normally, not even the way that virus do. Instead prions spread in the host only by inducing the same malformation in normal proteins, sort of a "borg assimilation" kind of thing. The resulting increase in a malformed protein overwhelms the hosts ability to function normally.

Prions are found naturally and harmlessly in yeasts and fungi where the purpose of the protein (if any) is unknown.

They are fascinating subjects, and challenge our definition of what is alive and what is not. But I don't see how it is reasonable to assume they are the product of mad science at the Pentagon.

Mycoplasma on the other hand are altogether a different kind of thing and unrelated to prions. They are bacteria without cell walls (and so somewhat immune to antibiotics that target the walls) but otherwise having proper genetics and the ability to reproduce in the usual manner of living organisms, via cellular division. The first mycoplasms were isolated from a woman with untreatable pneumonia, named Henrietta Lacks, and it killed her. However the cells from her lungs proved exceptionally hardy in the lab and were studied at great length. The discovery was named after her, called HeLa. HeLa are so hard to detect and so resistant to decontamination that cancer research centers are on constant lookout for HeLa infections in their research samples, and not uncommonly radical new discoveries of cancer cells turn out to be nothing more than HeLa having slipped into the glassware. Thus making Henrietta Lacks the most studied and feared woman on the face of the earth. Funny if sad, and very true.

As a matter of fact I did write a paper on the subject in graduate school.

[davood]

Listen to the radio show before you write another word.

[rsfish]

HeLa cells were derived from a cervical cancer, not pneumonia infected lungs and have little to do with mycoplasma. 

[Axenolith]

If you wrote a graduate paper on it, did you fail?  Because HeLa is the cell lineage of her cervical cancer which is utilized in cancer research and the cervical cancer is what killed her...

[Axenolith]

Or, I should say both, since both cancerous and non cancerous cells were taken from her.  The primary research lineage is actually her healthy ones...

[rosiescenario]

From the small amount of research I have done, prions were around long before anything was ever done by the U.S. army.

Kuru as a disease of cannibals in New Guinea predates Fort Detrick by a century or two.

[davood]

Kuru disease or "mad cow disease" or CJD, etc. were not found in the Fore Tribe until 1957.  If they had it for a century or two, there wouldn't have been any members left for the Americans to discover in 1957.  See my comments above.

[CoolBeans]

Thank you for posting these links.

I am a sufferer of one of these afflictions and have always felt that it was something simple that cascaded into something worse. No, I don't feel that I'm a victim of neuro warfare...I do think that there are toxins we encounter that spiral into disease if the body is compromised.  I might have to look into an appropriate antibiotic protocol (or ?) just to see if symptoms improve.

[davood]

You're welcome. Everyone in North America now has it, the Mycoplasma pathogen, in their bodies. The only thing that stands in the way of exhibiting the symptoms of these neurosystemic degenerative diseases is one's immune system, or lack thereof.

Antibiotics only works for some people during the short period after the onset appearance of these diseases. Listen to the entire 3-part radio show for the protocol.

There are at least these 4 natural, non-toxic means to improve one's immune system and/or kill the Mycoplasma pathogen:

1. Essiac Tea, the best liver detox ever discovered. A company in Arkansas called Herbal Healer Academy sells them (4 herbs you cook, not the liquid form).
2. Liver-gallbladder flush using Phosfood Liquid and olive oil, cleans out the liver and gallbladder by naturally and safely removing the stones. The liver is THE key organ to help improve one's immune system.
3. Miracle Mineral Supplement or MMS, discovered by Jim Humble, which may kill the Mycoplasma in the blood cells.
4. The Rife Machine, if the manufacturer knows the resonant frequency that kills the Mycoplasma.

[Shleprock]

Don't make fun of my wife.

[Spastica Rex]

My family hasn't been able to afford beef for over a year. Now I don't even care; squirrel is fine for me.

[rosiescenario]

...Gray squirrels founf in the CA foothill regions are carriers of plague.....

[falak pema]

try reindeer meat; its free on north pole. If you make it there you'll make it anywhere NY NY! 

Squirrels were Davy Crocket's best friend. Chipmunks to be precise.

By the Book - David Sedaris, the Author of ‘Squirrel Seeks Chipmunk,’ on His Reading Habits - NYTimes.com

[carbonmutant]

Actually this is not new California has had Pelosi for years...