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Magnitude 5.8 Quake Hits Virginia, Shakes Manhattan

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And so even the ground in Manhattan is shaking. Now... who is the lucky one to pull the short straw and check up on Indian Point? In other news, we are now long continental plates and short granite bedrock.

Magnitude 5.9
  • Tuesday, August 23, 2011 at 17:51:03 UTC
  • Tuesday, August 23, 2011 at 01:51:03 PM at epicenter
Location 37.975°N, 77.969°W
Depth 1 km (~0.6 mile) (poorly constrained)
  • 6 km (4 miles) SSE (152°) from Louisa, VA
  • 6 km (4 miles) SW (236°) from Mineral, VA
  • 26 km (16 miles) SE (133°) from Gordonsville, VA
  • 66 km (41 miles) NW (318°) from Richmond, VA
  • 134 km (83 miles) SW (219°) from Washington, DC
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 10.9 km (6.8 miles); depth +/- 7.4 km (4.6 miles)
Parameters NST=390, Nph=390, Dmin=57.9 km, Rmss=1.17 sec, Gp= 47°,
M-type=regional moment magnitude (Mw), Version=6
  • Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
    Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID usc0005ild

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Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:59 | 1591107 Ahmeexnal
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And so has begun.

China has it's own HAARP and is sending a message to the idiots in DC: we want our money GOLD!


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:03 | 1591158 Ident 7777 economy
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The most over-used 'conspiracy' excuse on the planet ...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:05 | 1591196 101 years and c...
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solar flares rampant the last few weeks, destabliziing the core.  hasnt anyone seen "2012". 

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:09 | 1591238 john39
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yeah, but...  what's interesting...  the Mayan calender actually resets in oct/nov 2011 according to expert Dr. Calleman.  but for some curious reason, MSM wants us to think dec 2012.   the Mayans, btw, did not predict an end of the world, but rather a universal energy shift occuring about that time.  fill in the blanks from there.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:13 | 1591270 kridkrid
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during college football season?  I think not.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:31 | 1591399 I Got Worms
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My Aggies in the Top 10 for the first time in forever, so I pray the Mayans have miscalculated Doomsday, at least until the end of bowl season.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:38 | 1591452 Robot Traders Mom
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Are you long sheep right now?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:57 | 1591570 Pladizow
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Perhaps you meant to ask: Is your long, IN sheep right now?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:51 | 1591820 spiral_eyes
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earthquake bullish. more broken windows and garden furniture. good for aggregate demand >> bullish for growth and equities


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:57 | 1591864 AldousHuxley
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Bullish only because Fed will bring more QE (debt printing for political goals) not because of natural economics.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:45 | 1592109 Rahm
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George W. Bush Fault Line

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 19:17 | 1592578 TheTmfreak
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Just took me 5 fucking hours to get home.

For some fucking reason that old addage that you can't stop a freight train is bullshit. Mass transit is nice, except when it isn't.


Edit: Time to read all the hedge that I've missed.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:21 | 1592009 hunglow
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Now that was funny!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:44 | 1591493 john39
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its only doomsday for TPTB.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:49 | 1591531 Shell Game
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If the Mayans miscalculated, Gig'em..

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:26 | 1591700 LibertyIn2010
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Maybe TPTB are stepping up the pace in getting those underground bases activated in Virginia and Colorado.  You anticipation of the impending SHTF.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:08 | 1591939 AldousHuxley
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Egyptians built a pyramid

Mayans built a pyramid

Americans built a pyramid (look at the back of the dollar and not the food pyramid)


Dates are not certain, but end is. NYC will just be a tourist spot Chinese overlords will visit to laugh at American "civilization" circa 2000.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:32 | 1592043 Shell Game
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Welcome to the jungle..


p.s. to you both, gig'em is an aggie reference.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 21:32 | 1592909 Prometheus418
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Nah, if America built a pyramid, you could tour it for $39.95, and there'd be an all-you-can-eat buffet right next door.


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 18:18 | 1592435 smlbizman
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i live in md, were a 2 inch snow storm gets 24 tv, what a disgusting lame society, oh no over 90 out, don't go out you'll die..go talk to the japenese than get bact to me ...i am embarrassed as a 54 yr old man at the fucking cowardise of the people in this country...this earthquake is a non-event compared to maybe 50 other things going on in this planet...please go interview one more asshole who was scared......  the earth reserves the right to be the earth and do earth things ...grow a pair please....

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:33 | 1591411 SilverRhino
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Magic, elves, dwarves and freaking dragons will be coming back.   Happy happy joy joy. 

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:47 | 1591514 LFMayor
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FUCKINAY.  The jocks and cool guys all laughed, but I KNEW all those hours of D&D would pay off some day.  Roll 2d12 for damage, bitches!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:27 | 1591710 pods
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Now where did I place my critical hit charts?


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:04 | 1591913 Bring the Gold
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I think you wants lots of D6 that looked like a Shadowrun reference to me. :P


Short jocks, Long nerds.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:58 | 1591574 wisefool
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Not so fast. your plan would be okay except John McCain ordered homeland security to round up the Tea Party Hobbits. (In JRR Tolkien's books the hobbits were the stubborn, humble, little creatures who saved the world from evil dragons, orcs, evil men, masters of the universe, etc)

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:23 | 1591683 Incubus
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beats "social life" = getting drunk and pissing your life away 'cause a part of you is "missing" that is only fulfilled by various stimulants/intoxicants. 


Humanity depresses me.  Bring on the fucking dragons, then.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:42 | 1591768 BandGap
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That made me cry.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:11 | 1591961 AldousHuxley
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You want meaningful life? Get drunk and shoot the entire Bush Cheney clan. American people will make you a hero.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 19:37 | 1592643 Chupacabra
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Sounds good to me.  But don't forget 0bama, the Hilldebeest and Pelosi while you're plugging away.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 17:36 | 1592307 wisefool
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That is a pretty nhilistic response. We have already have sin taxes for the many of the evils you describe. Why dont you become a central planner and fix humanity then? How about making a positive impact to fixing humantiy by adding a few more pages to the US tax code. we have not reached 66,666 pages yet. But hopefully for Timmay this quake absolved him.

"I used turbo tax, but a minor tremor made me hit the wrong keystroke and that is why I filed the wrong income"

- Tim "Turbo" Geithner.

Or if you really want humanity to find out what meaningful life is, discard the social engineering via hegelian dialiects. Tax consumption. Not work product. That might vindicate Keynes from the heretical douchebags that call themselves economists now adays.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:20 | 1591672 Metropolis_Minx
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Oh Yeah, Dr. Carl Calleman. The ninth wave is supposed to usher in Unity Consciousness on Oct. 28th 2011. And we have the comet Elenin whizzing past us around the middle of October and it's conspicuously "blue" which is prophesized in the Bible, Hopi legend, Mayan legend, Quran, Aztec, Anastazi, some Hindu and Veda ancient scripts...hmmm...kinda sounds fantastical, doesn't it?

We ARE living in Interesting times. Stay safe, and peace to you.



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:09 | 1591240 Ident 7777 economy
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I give you credit; not as tin-foil as 'haarp' ...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:25 | 1591355 NotApplicable
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Yet HAARP (not 'haarp') exists. Explain that Mr. I'm-not-going-to-consider-anything-that-might-get-me-labeled-as-a-tin-foiler.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:35 | 1591428 Ident 7777 economy
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Epic fail; propagation on HF is in the dumper today  .. 20 meters is as dead as a door nail ...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:20 | 1592006 Reptil
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Up till now, any HAARP action ( or events suspected as such) have had a specific depth (epicenter) and this one does not qualify (too shallow).

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:06 | 1591922 Ying-Yang
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Dumbass.... why don't you research something before you comment. 


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 19:18 | 1592580 Ident 7777 economy
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Dumbass, do you EVEN know what you linked to?




How many crossed dipole antennas constitute the 'haarp' array?


How many of the diesel engine generators are needed to power the 10,000 Watt transmitters that feed the crossed dipole arrays?


What is the beam 'tilt' achievable from boresight (straight up) on a planar array like the HAARP antenna?


Can you answer even a SINGLE one of those  questions, dumbass?




Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:15 | 1591957 Problem Is
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"not as tin-foil as 'haarp'"

What's the Best Play on Tin-Foil Hats??
Buy AL futures on the COMEX? Or buy Alcoa?

Or "Invent" a HAARP proof tin foil hat and launch a "" IPO?

This foil hat thing is going to be big...

Don't lose your sense of humor boys... It helps the hat fit securely...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 19:13 | 1592567 Ident 7777 economy
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Problem Is writes:


What's the Best Play on Tin-Foil Hats?? Or "Invent" a HAARP proof tin foil hat ...

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The best play -





Thu, 08/25/2011 - 08:55 | 1598750 Problem Is
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Bask in the spray of aluminum and barium oxide... You'll be fine...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:10 | 1591254 pesamystik
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Damn, I felt my apartment shaking here in Brooklyn. Had no idea it was an earthquake.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:15 | 1591284 Confused
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That wasn't an earthquake then. It was all the hipsters in Williamsburg getting angry because they thought the neighborhood was cool before the rest of population.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:19 | 1592002 AldousHuxley
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You sure it wasn't some fatso walking in the hallway? or it could be ghetto culture Americans flexin'

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:18 | 1591317 FlyPaper
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A west coast viewpoint:  enjoy the ride.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:18 | 1591998 Problem Is
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More West Coast Perspective

Have beer, bottled water and canned beans stacked in the garage...Strap down your water heater... THEN enjoy the ride...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:25 | 1592026 hunglow
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She always does when she rides the washing machine on long cycle.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 18:16 | 1592426 knukles
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Another West Coast viewpoint: 
Yeah.... like  uh   ah hahahahaah a huh uhhhhh wut?  Like uh.   Deal with it, OK?  I mean like uh fuggin' televishun whuz dis shit?  Werz  za Gongk Show?  Pazzzz da...    Yeah....

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:12 | 1591255 Haywood Jablowme
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Don't forget about the 5.3 out in Colorado today also!  

2012 baby!  2012....

Actually more like October 2011 when Elenin / Dwarf star comes :)

Now where's that popcorn?


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:14 | 1591281 Careless Whisper
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Hey I got an idea. Let's expand that IndianPoint Nuke Plant outside of Manhattan. Noooooooooo chance of earthquakes. Yup, that's what the scientists said.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:16 | 1591306 Cdad
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That is a perfectly located Nuke plant.  Not sure what your complaint is.  What the SEC cannot [will not] fix, God is ready to step in and take care of.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:19 | 1591319 Cdad
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Come on...after shock!....after shock!...after shock!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:29 | 1591383 Confused
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Did you really just invoke gods name and then call for after shocks?


Please kill yourself.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:21 | 1591335 Toma Haja
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Actually, The Lake Anna nuclear power plant is very close to this quake.

On a related note, tried local news sources to find out about the earthquake.  Not much.  Clicked on ZH and ... what more can you say.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:34 | 1591421 NotApplicable
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Wow, only about 6 miles away.

So, why didn't they build a hydro plant on a damned up lake, instead of a nuke?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:04 | 1591914 TheDriver
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Because the lake was created in 1971 for the power plant. Believe it or not, there used to be several gold mines in the area including Goodwin Gold Mine, now flooded. Gold mining in the area was pretty common until the 1850's when it all moved out west.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:50 | 1591817 trav7777
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you and tyler are stupid.

Lake Anna RIGHT NEAR THE EPICENTER has a NPP, only built to withstand quakes about this powerful.

NYC is not the freaking world

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:26 | 1591367 Cathartes Aura
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for the record, Colorado has had a dozen quakes in the past 24 hours, all "shallow" (less than 5 miles depth). . . signatures, if you know the script.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:39 | 1591456 goldfish1
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where can i get a script?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:45 | 1591505 Cathartes Aura
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perhaps you already have yours.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:35 | 1591422's picture



Jerry Lee Lewis: Whole Lotta Shakin' Going On

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:56 | 1592154 andybev01
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This is what I play after a good shake


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:26 | 1591369 Marcuz Aurelius
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Are you MAD ? it's the bernanke moving his gold trolleys in the sub-terreanean FED sites to settle for the chavez-meister.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:10 | 1591627 Hugh G Rection
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Candy Crowley should be more careful when walking down the stairs with an arm full of doughnuts.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:35 | 1591427 clymer
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Jesse ventura did an expose on the HAARP array in Alaska, and this is not conspiracy.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:07 | 1591929 Ying-Yang
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Here is the website...... checkout the contacts

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:32 | 1592054 AldousHuxley
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Air Force Research Laboratory
3550 Aberdeen Ave S.E.
Kirtland AFB NM 87117-5776

All government supported research is defense related under the guise of education and innovation. Internet, NASA, aerospace, nuclear reactors, etc. Why else would the rich pay taxes to support it if the money wasn't used to guard their interests?


Here is how American "innovation" industry works:

Government funded defense R&D --> Commercialization at high tech startups -->  Industrialization via mass manufacturing at Fortune 500 inc.--> low cost manufacturing through offshoring and finally sell off brand and economically no longer viable technology to 3rd world country at overinflated price right before a recession to repatriate dollars (coordinated with Fed).


Obama didn't go to Facebook's dinner for nothing. He went to use Facebook to spy on you and your friends as well as use it as propaganda machine in the coming wars while attracting foreign hard earned Asian capital into the hands of 20 something American Jewish kid.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:10 | 1591949 Bring the Gold
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Conspircy contrary to popular belief does not automatically = false. For example Enron was a conspiracy and it was real. Conspiracy simply means a group of people working in secret for their own interests usually in an illegal or immoral manner. It is still a conspiracy after it is revealed. It's the attempt to work in secret that is the key.

I'm not sure when this word got totally twisted to equate to attempted character assasintation of the person putting forth their thought that perhaps people do, in fact, work together for their own benefit. This doesn't mean all conspiracy theories are true, but people like to act like all claims of conspiracy are false when history is literally JAM PACKED with elites conspiring with and against one another usually to the detriment of the plebs. For crying out loud people it's a legally defined term eg conspiracy to commit fraud. 

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 17:09 | 1592207 Cathartes Aura
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the tendency to mock what is least understood is a long-held human trait, not necessarily healthy for passing on the ole genes tho'. . .

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:37 | 1591441 zenbones
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It's not conspiracy.  It's geo-politics.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:25 | 1591695 Incubus
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Tensioned Enough Already.


Time to shake some shit up, bitchez.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:50 | 1591535 NewThor
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Oh yeah, i forgot you little humans know everything about the universe.


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:51 | 1591539 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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It aint HAARP, its...GOD. God is punishing Obama for going on vacation during a financial crisis.

I'm just frakkin with you all.

Yes I know, junk me in all my glory people...

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:37 | 1592070 AldousHuxley
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God doesn't punish vacationers. Christians  will claim that it is God punshing NYC for legalizing gay marriage. But then when Muslims say the same thing, then white Christians will say Muslims are so intolerant so they must die while pumping Saudi (or worse socialist citgo) gas into their SUVs.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 18:19 | 1592439 knukles
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My SUV runs just fine on Saudi oil, thank you very much, Mr. Smartie Pants!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 19:36 | 1592545 Taint Boil
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Unbelievable damage photo – oh the agony.


Update!!! New damage pics just in! Who is going to pay for this?!


Will it ever stop - more pics, our prayers go out ............

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 20:43 | 1592815 DCFusor
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True.  It's a big antenna for very low frequency comm to our nuclear subs.  I know some of the people who designed it.  It's cool -- at a low enough radio frequency, you can contact the subs without them having to surface and reveal where they are, the radio waves go right through water.  But they are real hard to radiate, which is why you need that giant antenna.  It doesn't affect weather, make things invisible, or anything much else.  Too bad, the Navy would have loved that, but nope, better luck next time.  Just a very low bit-rate comm.  But you don't need many bits for the intended job "execute plan r2" is about all it takes.


We felt the quake here, and took some measurements to see if we had a radon release.  See:

Short answer, nothing to write home about, but that's a good baseline in case North Anna springs a leak.  All it did here in SW VA was freak out my cats.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 21:03 | 1592850 Ident 7777 economy
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DCFusor said:

 True. It's a big antenna for very low frequency comm to our nuclear subs.

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Ummm ... not quite.

You're thinking of other facilities ... 'haarp' generates RF iin the HF (3 - 10 MHz range) via individual 10,000 watt transmitters to an X by Y planar array that points straight up ... via changing the phase of RF fed to the individual crossed dipole radiators they can steer +- 30 degrees from straight up. They CANNOT steer to the horizon (what is the sine of zero degrees? zero ...)


See, for instance:



Wiki on 'haarp':



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:04 | 1591177 LibertyIn2010
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I guess next time the Richmond Fed will think twice about reporting such negative numbers!?!?

See Youtube - Dutchsinse Channel for more on HAARP, Earthquakes, etc.


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:16 | 1591294 Terminus C
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Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:17 | 1591295 Terminus C
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LOL - dupe


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:38 | 1591455 TheDriver
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I can see the Richmond Fed building from my office window. When my building started shaking, I assumed someone had hit it.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:10 | 1591247 The Fonz...befo...
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I say Elenin...another alignment due by the 26th of this month...yeah yeah yeah I know NASA told us to discount the mountain of evidence that says otherwise....

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:32 | 1591406 Cathartes Aura
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who is NASA, and where do they source their paperclips?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:38 | 1591448 kridkrid
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Tru that.  If one were ammenable to grand conspiracy, one might question the motives behind almost anything pushed by NASA.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:51 | 1592138 AldousHuxley
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Any commercialized product from NASA R&D is a bonus (ie. memory foam mattress)


NASA is part of US defense. Key ingredient for empire expansion and control. Romans controlled the land, British controlled the sea, Americans control the airspace.


Obama didn't save auto industry for unions. Just like China didn't buy Hummers from GM for gas mileage. Chinese reverse engineers them anyway. Obama saved auto industry for spare capacity to manufacture war machines if necessary. Obama will also save aerospace industry too. It is all about CONTROL and MONEY people.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 18:26 | 1592446 knukles
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Whoa, fella!
In a formal press release the other day NASA said that Aliens were going to invade and destroy Earth in order to stop global warming from destroying the rest of the Universe.

Serious.  So Help Me Statist Scientific Doubting Thomas Non-Believer Until I get Really Fucking Scared and then I Pray Atheist of Note.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:23 | 1591688 The Fonz...befo...
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Where do they source their paperclips?

Always from Germany....project paperclip

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:13 | 1591269 He_Who Carried ...
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Get a life, Dude.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:25 | 1591356 The Fonz...befo...
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Alright then tits....we shall see in a few days....

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:32 | 1591407 centerline
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Careful. I think you can poke your eye out with one of those things.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:50 | 1591536 Ignatius J Reilly
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and now over to Tits McGee

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:37 | 1591442 Fukushima Sam
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I'll see your HAARP and raise you an Elenin.  ;-)

Fuck that!  I'm all in on CERN-spawned mini-blackholes!

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:54 | 1591554 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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I met all my neighbors for the first time when we all went outside after the Big Shake. Who the Fuck are all these people and where is the alcohol?!?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:58 | 1591112 Ignorance is bliss
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WTF...I have never heard of earthquakes in Virginia before. Something is seriously going on with our world. I think its okay to freak out a little.


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:00 | 1591139 Cursive
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Kinda makes one wonder about all of this HAARP conjecture.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:00 | 1591351 Ident 7777 economy
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Susceptable (to repeated suggestion) 'sheep' mentality (or behavior) ...



   Sheep ... baaaaaaaah .... Haaaaaaaaarp ...




Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:18 | 1591999 Bring the Gold
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HAARP exists bro, sorry you aren't up on reality based research. Also, aren't sheep the ones that follow the herd ie YOU?

To clarify, I am NOT suggesting this was HAARP caused or a similar Chinese technology, but to act like it doesn't exist when it verifiably does is just stupidity. I am agnostic about this matter as it happens. That said, to throw insults at those who actually have looked into the matter but are perhaps wrong about causation is pretty lame.


"Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance."

Albert Einstein

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 20:18 | 1592489 Ident 7777 economy
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Hiding under Einstein's skirt?


I think you would be hard-pressed to explain the first principles involved in a situation involving 'haarp', just as you would in trying to explain the operation of a series circuit in a frickin' FLASHLIGHT.



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 19:50 | 1592691 Taint Boil
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Basic laws of physics people ……. HAARP is bull, go back to watching your TV programs. Really.. The herd needs to be culled. Nature will take care of all that soon I hope.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:03 | 1591166 TruthInSunshine
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Thomas Jefferson is shaking his fists at Congress & the scum on Wall Street & at The Bernank.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:11 | 1591260 DaveyJones
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since there's no one alive who can shake these vermin down, maybe we can raise the dead?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:42 | 1591476's picture


1812 New Madrid earthquake

The earthquakes helped bring to justice the murderers of George Lewis (commonly known as "Slave George"). George was slain on the night of December 15–16, 1811 by two nephews of Thomas Jefferson, Lilburn Lewis and Isham Lewis, who were also relatives of Meriwether Lewis. After killing him with an axe in front of other slaves, George's owners intended to burn his mutilated corpse, but the first New Madrid earthquake interrupted their effort, and so the corpse was interred in a brick chimney. The murder may well have escaped discovery by authorities, except that the January 23 and February 7 quakes caused the chimney to partially collapse, exposing George's remains. Lilburn and Isham Lewis were quickly investigated, arrested and charged. Lilburn killed himself; Isham escaped from jail and probably died during the War of 1812.[11][12]

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:10 | 1591181 Ident 7777 economy
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Known 'fault' line; just look it up ...


To the "-1" clicker, make that the:





                                       Central Virginia Seismic Zone.




 Google search on same



List of historic quakes:

Virginia Seismic Zone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




Tue, 08/23/2011 - 18:45 | 1592497 Ident 7777 economy
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Since when do facts and factual reference cites draw the mark-down button?



Since Neanderthals were given the access to keyboards,
pre-written software, the public internet and ZH.




Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:06 | 1591214 pvzh
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The last "big one" in Virginia (about a 5.8 on the Richter scale) was on May 31, 1897, in Pearisburg, the county seat of Giles County. (found at

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:13 | 1591275 Ident 7777 economy
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Thanks much for the cite.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:42 | 1591479 TheDriver
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Earthquakes in VA are very common but most are small and low impact because of the geology of the area. We have 2 main seismic zones, Giles County (southwest part of the state) and the Central VA/Piedmont area (where this one ocurred). It's okay to relax now.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:10 | 1591625 tmosley
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I wouldn't jump straight to crazy yet.  There have been much larger Earthquakes in the general area:

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 15:15 | 1591645 Ident 7777 economy
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Shame; you know rationality has no place here ...


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 16:27 | 1592031 Bring the Gold
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There is such a thing as investigating things Ident. Also, there is such a thing as rational agnosticism. Condemning from upon high as though you have complete knowledge coupled with scathing criticism of those who have discovered for themselves that the HAARP device exists makes you look like a clown. I'm not suggesting that HAARP even has this capability, let alone was the cause, but you sir are an asshat and a clown to dismiss it's very real existence out of hand.

FWIW, if I was a betting man I'd say this is normal tectonic activity which might be caused by any number of natural factors. That said I'm not going to rule out a possibility just because it doesn't conform to my carefully crafted world view which makes me feel all safe, special and most of all in control. Why? Because I ain't and neither are you so quit acting like you have omniscience.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 18:58 | 1592500 Ident 7777 economy
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"There is such a thing as investigating things Ident. Also, there is such a thing as rational agnosticism."


Didn't you mean to write antagonism ?



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 19:33 | 1592526 Ident 7777 economy
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  Speaking of HAARP, and I've asked this question before: how does a series of crossed dipole arrays facing UP in Alaska that ONLY affects the ionosphere can in any way affect


a) the troposphere (where weather occurs) or

b) the surface of the earth.


But, most of these ppl (not necessarily you) are too stupid to even APPROACH an answer, and instead fall back on magic chants and the burning of incense and perceived witches (relying on explanations by a bunch of stupid paperback books written by hucksters).


THAT I have ZERO respect for.


We are witnessing the Descent of man and the age of Unreason ...



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 17:39 | 1592316 Lord Welligton
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Shame; you know rationality has no place here ...


So why do you hang around?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 18:49 | 1592505 Ident 7777 economy
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I like poking sharp sticks at the animals ...


And man, as an animal, is the ultimate 'prey' to poke sharp sticks at.


'course, priss, I don't suppose you'd undestand that ...



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 20:13 | 1592760 tickhound
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Poker after his prey... Like AAA, just call him if you need a jump. 

And apparently he's really good with animals.

As far as comprehension goes, its stimulative.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 20:25 | 1592780 Ident 7777 economy
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Incomprehensible post; care to try again?


Remember, good writing is clear thinking on paper, contains specific information which is relevant to the reader, keeps to plain-language principles and is logically arranged and easy to follow.


Just say no to these three enemies of clear and direct writing -


1. Just Say No to Metadiscourse

Metadiscourse is writing about writing and is almost always extraneous and unnecessary. Examples of metadiscourse would be: “to sum up,” “candidly,” “I believe,” “note that,” “it has become clear,” and “I would like to point out.”


2. Just Say No to Redundancy

Don’t use more words than necessary to describe something. Many writers casually add redundant modifiers to words that can stand on their own.


3. Just Say No to Pretentious Words

Don’t get out the thesaurus and hunt for intelligent, impressive sounding words that usually aren’t. Many writers believe they have to dress up their copy in order to present themselves as original and gain the attention and respect they want. This usually has the opposite effect.



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 20:33 | 1592796 tickhound
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Sorry, still having trouble getting past your eloquent self-description.

You've used this same response before... "saved under my docs for..."

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 20:51 | 1592817 Ident 7777 economy
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Subterfuge* (on your behalf, tick); it wasn't a 'self-description'.


In the vein of ad homs, who goes around referring to himself as 'tick**' anything?


Nerve to be addressing the kettle as 'black', pot.



1. Deceit used in order to achieve one's goal or win an argument; see also "straw man argument".
2. A statement or action resorted to in order to deceive.


**Tick - small arachnids in the order Ixodida that, along with mites, constitute the subclass Acarina. Ticks are ectoparasites; external parasites.


Tue, 08/23/2011 - 21:04 | 1592836 tickhound
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And that's Dr. Tickhound to you.

tick - A stock market "tick" is the movement, either up or down, between one posted sale and the next.

Tick - The TICK Index is a simple calculation that gives you a quick look at whether the mood of the market is to buy or to sell.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 21:06 | 1592859 Ident 7777 economy
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Oh ... an up or DOWN tick ...



Tue, 08/23/2011 - 21:16 | 1592881 tickhound
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Double entendre - For those who poke sticks

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:58 | 1591115 Cdad
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Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:04 | 1591182 WestVillageIdiot
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Co-workers felt the building shake here in Midtown.  I was moving some furniture and didn't feel it.  Our building definitely shook.

So far it is no big deal. 

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:09 | 1591241's picture

I felt it in Western PA while reading ZH. Wondered why my chair was rattling.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:13 | 1591276 Miss Expectations
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I felt it here in Wilmington, NC

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:14 | 1591279 Cdad
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Sweet!  There is talk of a trading halt.  Cannot leave today's engineered rally to simmer no.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:17 | 1591311 Cdad
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Damn! trading halt.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:45 | 1591502 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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felt it here in Philadelphia PA. Not cool.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:53 | 1591550 pazmaker
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and now you have to get ready for you think they will be evacuating any in wilmington?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:58 | 1591116 bam_son
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BAM... son.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:05 | 1591195 WestVillageIdiot
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I can hear sirens but that could just be overreaction.  Everything seems okay.  I hope this doesn't screw up my commute. 

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:58 | 1591117 Catullus
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I'm in bmore. Holy shit. Evac building now

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:59 | 1591120 Aghast in Midlothian
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I'm in Richmond, near the Mineral, VA started shaking, felt like a train was going by.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:59 | 1591122 chistletoe
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no shit.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:31 | 1591398 Tramp Stamper
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Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:59 | 1591123 Ecoman11
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New HAARP operater missed Japan.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:05 | 1591209 magpie
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Do they still teach geography in school ?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:21 | 1591332 Hapte
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Lol, enjoyed that burn.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:22 | 1591338 andybev01
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Do you understand humor?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:28 | 1591378 magpie
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Only if people are loud and speak very slowly

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:53 | 1591547's picture



Garret Morris - News for the Hearing Impared

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:59 | 1591125 drivenZ
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yep def felt that one here on the 33rd flr in NYC. weird. 

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:59 | 1591127 JuicedGamma
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That was a big one.  Felt it here in Northern Jersey.

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 13:59 | 1591130 Sophist Economicus
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We felt the shimmy here in eastern PA

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:00 | 1591133 ihedgemyhedges
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NOW is the time to buy spam.........................

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:12 | 1591268 Josh Randall
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Or BOA..same thing, right ?

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:00 | 1591134 youngman
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Bernanke is not supposed to speak until Friday...did he say something....

Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:00 | 1591136 Newsboy
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Tue, 08/23/2011 - 14:04 | 1591178 Cash_is_Trash
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Uber bullish!

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