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Majority Of Neo-Normal Greek Cops Vote Neo-Nazi

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In a somewhat stunning revelation, especially after our earlier note on the Golden Dawn leader's 'position' on the issues of the day, GreekReporter notes via the news paper To Vima, that more than half of all police officers in Greece voted for pro-Nazi party Golden Dawn in the elections of May 6th. It's not really for us to judge (well maybe it is) but when some polling stations report Golden Dawn receiving 19-24% of the votes, things are going from the dismal to the horrific (and potentially chaotic) very fast.

 

ANSAmed: Greece: More than half police officers voted Neonazi party

Upsetting result revealed by newspaper "To Vima"

 

(ANSAmed) - ATHENS, MAY 11 - More than half of all police officers in Greece voted for pro-Nazi party Chrysi Avgi' (Golden Dawn) in the elections of May 6. This is the disconcerting result of an analysis carried out by the authoritative newspaper To Vima (TheTribune) in several constituencies in Athens, where 5,000 police officers in service in the Greek capital also cast their ballot.

 

At some polling stations Chrysi Avgi' obtained 19 to 24% of votes.

 

Others, like Agios Panteleimonas and Kypseli, traditional strongholds of the party, reached 15 to 18%. According to the newspaper, at the 11 polling stations (from 806 to 816) located near the police station (Ellas), Chrysi Avgi' received most votes, reaching 18.64% at station 813 and 23.67% at number 816.

 

Other polling stations situated at a short distance from the ones mentioned before, where police officers do not vote, recorded 12-14% of votes for the Golden Dawn party.

 

Moreover, the four polling stations located near the riot police station (MAT), used by the police, recorded percentages between 13 and 19 for Chrysi Avgi'.

 

These figures, To Vima underlines, are impressive, considering the fact that other polling stations close to the riot police station reached 7-10% of votes for the pro-Nazi party. Based on the electoral lists, 550 to 700 people have voted at each of these voting stations, of which 20 to 30% police officers. This means, the newspaper worked out, that 45 to 59% of police officers have voted for Chrysi Avgi'. (ANSAmed).

 


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Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:24 | Link to Comment CaptainObvious
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So, what now, Hitler will rise again?  Sounds like deja, deja, deja, deja...shit, Tyler, what deja are we up to now?  I lost track.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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The Careless Whisper (Non-EU) ICELANDIC Economic Update & Threadjacking

 

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Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:34 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Gotta love those Icey folks.  Don't know why the Greeks won't learn anything from them.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:36 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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Typical spineless citizenry, voting for a radical gov't to do the brow beating for them.  Shows how powerful pensions and getting paid for sitting on your ass is - more powerful than accepting financial reality, apparently.

 

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Ag1761
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Today, AG1761 expedites his first physical silver trade.

No kidding, I exchnaged 1 Oz phyzz for a 3 year old in perfecr condition mountain bike.

We spoke a bit about life, the universe and all things Greek as one does these days. To my surprise he was switched on re possible wider consequences of a Greek exit. The guy wanted £40 for the bike, I offered an Oz, he said wtf was that, I explained, he woke up, shook my hand and walked away with a smile and a promise to look into this PM shit.

I'm a barter bitch and woke up someone today.

I feel kind of good.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:12 | Link to Comment slewie-the-pi-rat
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speaking of cops, what do you get when a mentally handicapped guy encounters Fullerton's finest?

10 minutes of tasers and boots   http://bit.ly/MhkeQs ** along with the poor fellows final words ... "Daddy"

 

**(viewer discretion is advised   from  RT  - it's basically a  snuff film)

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Michael
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Jordan Maxwell - The Dawn of a New Day (2009)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07REkvATHb8

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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You're a worthless fuck for stealing the account name, but I do like you personally a lot more than the real Slewie.  You can even write in coherent English.

Shithead.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:09 | Link to Comment slewie-the-pi-rat
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in the end we all slewie

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Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:46 | Link to Comment ChrisFromMorningside
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Welcome to Southern California, where any notion of "justice" is long gone from the law-enforcement/court system.

You didn't mention that the one of the officers said quote "Now see my fists? They are getting ready to fuck you up." And another officer said "I just smashed his face to hell" after he pounded the guys skull with the butt of Taser. 

This is what was left of him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kelly-Thomas-Police-Beating.jpg

The guy they killed was homeless and schizophrenic. The police were investigating reports of auto vandalism in the area. They killed him simply because he wouldn't "comply" (meaning, allow himself to be humiliated and dominated by a bunch of fat-fuck middle-aged welfare queens who think they're big men cause they got a government job). 

Don't trust the police, ladies and gentlemen. Trust yourself and your family ... you know what I mean. You'd be shocked at how many police have idiot-level IQs. You'd be shocked at how many police do off-duty security for "sketchy" individuals and business. In the Rampart scandal in LA, it was made known publicly just how many LAPD officers were not only full members of the Bloods/Crips streetgangs but also doing off-duty security for Suge Knight and other figures in the hip-hop world. Would you trust Suge Knight's security team to take care of your kids in an emergency? Exactly. The mentality that takes people into (present-day) law-enforcement is very similar to the mentality that takes people into crime. A lot of these cops would be doing 100 years in San Quentin if they weren't officers because if they weren't beating people up from behind a badge, they'd be beating people up from behind a red or blue bandanna. 

The most pathetic stuff is the "leftists" who bemoan police brutality and then turn-around and say these guys deserve to retire at 55 and have $100,000 pensions for life. Useless idiots.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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well said Chris.

Nowadays, it's sorta like "A Clockwork Orange" where the "droogies" simply go from gangbanging to "law enforcement"...

Modern amerikan cops reflect the decadent society that spawned them....Fat, bald, powertripping, militarized, dullards who wouldn't know or appreciate Constitutional principles if they walked up and tazered them in the ass.

"more than half of all police officers in Greece voted for pro-Nazi party Golden Dawn in the elections of May 6th"

That's how you know Greece is a "liberal" society.

In amerika, it would be ALL OF 'EM.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:55 | Link to Comment caconhma
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"Pro-Nazi party Golden Dawn"

This statement by ZeroHedge clearly shows their true mature. If ZeroHedge calls Greek nationalists pro-Nazi then why didn't they call Israel a pro-Nazi and racist state?

Well, the answer is simple: ZeroHedge is a provocateur criticizing the Zionist-controlled Central-Banking Mafia but never calling their real names. Who are these "unknown families" controlling FED, ECB, and others? Do not expect that ZeroHedge will ever identify them by names.

Finally, do not be surprised if ZeroHedge will be more than willing to provide the info about its bloggers to "proper authorities".

 

PS

Remember Al Qaeda? Somehow Americans got a lot of their leaders killed but never, I repeat never, any of Taliban leaders were ever killed or captured. Apparently, Taliban is independent from CIA, MI5, and Mossad!

Something isn’t kosher with Al Qaeda. Just imagine if Osama ben Laden was captured and brought to the USA for a trial. But it never happened. Al Qaeda and similar games must continue, otherwise, there will not be the NWO.

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Tue, 05/15/2012 - 23:21 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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Evidently according to Zero Hedge calling bullshit on Mickey Mouse gas chambers that killed millions and enforcing immigration laws makes one a Neo-Nazi.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 00:05 | Link to Comment RECISION
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Who are these "unknown families" controlling FED, ECB, and others? Do not expect that ZeroHedge will ever identify them by names.

Tell you what - why don't you name them...?

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 00:22 | Link to Comment Milestones
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Tried to give ya a mark but couldn't. If you use Italics in your lead line you need to place it in quotes or it will not register for anyone. Someone told me that a while back.          Milestones 

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 06:27 | Link to Comment Ghostbusters
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I'm a little disappointed that ZH is going around pointing the, of all the things in the world, the "Neo-Nazi" finger at, of all things, an anti-establishment party in befuddled Greece.  I was on the objective bus and I thought ZH was too but to use the German abbreviation for National Socialism to discredit the police officers of Greece as racist, on a geo-political finance blog?  Well that just doesn't make any sense.  I watched the sensationalist interview with the leader of the Golden Dawn and it seemed to me an establishment media source attacking a man with different views than the Western media stated norm.  I don't appreciate the sensationalist approach of ZH, c'mon Tyler, of applying the blanket label "Neo-Nazi" to a political movement that doesn't approve of the status quo, which is not a recent history but quite an evolution of global geo-politics.

The Holocaust happened but it did not happen in the way that the media, history books, movies, museums, monuments, and the propaganda teaches.  It is nothing more than public relations, psychology, mind control, marketing and brain-washing at its finest.  We obsess over the Holocaust but we forget about the Bolshevik Revolution, Maoist China, and our genocidal practices try Iraqi sanctions under Clinton for example.  Drug war in Mexico/Latin America?  Native Americans, where are the monuments?  African Americans?  A tragedy is a tragedy and that's it.  People are afraid to look in the mirror because they don't want the truth.  It is easier to live in blissful ignorance than to admit that you've been living a lie, you've supported a lie, and you've propagated the lie.  It is difficult to call yourself a fascist or a supporter/taxpayer in a fascist nation state but with the passing of Nakba and the continued preponderance of the Holocaust it is easy to see the hyprocrisy.  The UN continues the hypocrisy to this day through their public relations arms of UNICEF, Red Cross, WWF, Doctors without Borders, NED, <insert western NGO here> and there is no greater example than world's longest occupation of Palestine.  There is not a problem with Judaism but rather a problem with use of Judaism as a pretext for racism which simply doesn't exist.  Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Egypt are some other examples of the global hypocrisy at work.  Who has the destabilization of all these nations benefitted?  Human rights, humanitarian intervention, insurgents, the war on terror, democracy, republicans, democrats, and the like are all linguistical terms that don't reflect their true dictionary definition any more. Who does the media work for after all?  Thus how do they report the news?  Was the Nakba covered in the NYTimes yesterday?

We are united on this blog through mathematics, objective truths, and what seems to me the desire to have a better global system of governance that protects true human rights.  Anyone or anything that seeks to control the debate inherently denies the truth and to leave oneself incapable of questioning the official version of for example the Holocaust, Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Christianity, etc. negates both math, truth, and the desire for a better system of global integration(not the NWO, but a system of states' rights and free trade honoring above all the local culture of each nation's people).  Information is key and informing oneself is one's own civic duty, not that of the state who will control the debate and dictate their version of history to best serve the state. 

I could list the links to support some of these points but I've already rambled long enough, ask for them.  May ZH stay to truth, historical fact, charts, timeless quotes, and the wonderful reporting they've demonstrated over the past 5 years...has it really been that long?  I have learned much from ZH and from many of the informed posters therein but to lower ourselves to the sensational approach of the MSM is only to give in to their psychological warfare.  We can all see the monetary system as the current source of evil and that is the place we must focus our attention.  Spain is down the tubes and they are begging the ECB, EU, and/or the Troika to act.  This just shows the mantra of the interventionist and the wisdom of Mises.  The truth is objective and when emotions enter into the debate, it is already lost.  Here's to the truth and to leaving a better legacy for our children and for all future generations to grace this amazing planet called Earth.  peace love freedom and prosperity for all, ghostbusters

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:13 | Link to Comment Cortez the Killer
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Maybe, just maybe he should have put his hands behind his back.

 

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Socrates
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Coming from a family of law-enforcement (NYPD detectives and FBI) I hope these guys get 25-to-life and put in general population. That way, I don't have to worry about some pieces of shit like this who were scored as borderline criminals somehow dragging my family into their twisted hell.

The only thing good that will come of this is that this is going to be so clear that the charges are going to stick. And perhaps more law-enforcement will think a 2nd time about a blow to a citizen that is uncalled for.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:11 | Link to Comment worbsid
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Bravo:  Get used to that.  Those 90% silver coins will be good too.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Speaking of silver, the Greek people have been so desparate for cash that I have been buying silver coins from 1960, 1963 and 1964 for under the spot price of the silver ontent in fairly large qantities from a good contact.

To be honest, i cannot undertand why they aren't using these coins for hand to hand transactions if they are worried about their euros.

It would certainly at least make any barter transactions easier to complete.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Typical spineless citizenry

Besides of firestarting the finance ministry and massprotests..... but agreed, they should have gone further..... if the irish are any indication, not even 2% of the entire population marching on the gov and protesting, cuts it nowadays (the irish did just that).... cause it will just be ignored, unless you - once you already have the masses there, storm it.

, voting for a radical gov't to do the brow beating for them.

In an event that does only cover voting.... and where you only get "extreme parties" claiming to oppose the anti-bailouts (the hard left btw got way more than the hard right).... and where there are no other dishes on the menu... what else is there to do?

  Shows how powerful pensions and getting paid for sitting on your ass is

Paid pensions and wages..... in greece? In which parallel universe are you living?

- more powerful than accepting financial reality, apparently.

Accepting financial reality? What is that supposed to mean? Financial parallel world reality is "You have 100x more debt, pulled out of our own asses, than you ever in non-financials-reality will be able to pay. "Financial reality" is "we pulled some really ridiculous claim and strategy (you know, one where basic school maths is declared invalid) out of our asses, and your nonrepresentatives agreed to it, partially without telling you... so now you gotta pay up with nonexistance capital.... and if you cannot do that, just sell the country to us please.

 

TL/DR: Bankster propaganda bitch, playing the divide and conquer card.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment Bring the Gold
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RyanK serving it up yet again. The up voting button is broken for ya bro otherwise you'd have mine and I imagine quite a few more.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:03 | Link to Comment We need Geronimo
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Last time I looked, everyone on Wall St. sits on their ass.  But, of course, they are "adding value" to pieces of paper.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 23:12 | Link to Comment GeorgeHayduke
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+1

Excellent point Geronimo. Somehow that kind of sitting on your ass gets overlooked by the wannabes.

Looks like Thorstein Veblen's Theory of the Leisure Class has merit.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:47 | Link to Comment GOSPLAN HERO
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The Wehrmacht Security Divisions were set up at the beginning of 1941 and were intended to perform policing, security and anti-partisan duties in the rear of the main German field armies, under the direction of the respective army rear area command, or Korück. They were organised from divisions initially raised in the 3rd wave of mobilisation, these being former Landwehr divisions largely manned by second-line reservists.

As support units, they were comparatively poorly equipped, and often made up of men who were for the most part unfit for frontline service through age or disability. As well as various guard (Landesschützen) and police battalions, the divisions were supposed to be provided with one standard regiment of troops, plus an artillery detachment, as a 'strike force', though in practice this was often used for frontline duty as local conditions demanded. In many cases, the Security Divisions also included battalions of Ukrainian, Russian or French soldiers as well as a unit of captured foreign tanks. Their exact organisation varied widely between individual formations and during the course of the war (see the 286th Security Division for an example).

Many of the Security Divisions were thrown into frontline service during the major Soviet offensives of 1944, such as Operation Bagration, and destroyed in the process. Some were rebuilt as standard infantry divisions due to the chronic manpower shortages of the Wehrmacht in this period. -- wikipedia

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:36 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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I have never been sure what to make of it but of all of what could be considered front line Waffen SS divisions in those days (1-6th, 9,10,12, 17th) the 4th SS "Polizei" composed almost entirely of policemen had the poorest combat record of any of them.  Every other division in that group had a very high level of battlefield performance and were fearsome in a fight but the 4th pretty much got its butt kicked and never had much of a reputation amongst the rest of the SS fighting troops.

They may have enjoyed lording it over civilians at home, but when the opposition was armed they did not do well by any measure. Somehow I dont find this too surprising.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:43 | Link to Comment GOSPLAN HERO
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The Polizei Division had a poor combat record.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 04:45 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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just keep in mind that the math to calculate these number where done by greeks on greek calculators... need I say more?

 

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:12 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Some pretty hot chicks in Rek and Kef.

..and it ain't the geothermal.  : )

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Griffin
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Greece has a foreign currency, one they can not print or de value, the Icelandic currency on the other hand more than halfed against other currencies in the crash, and the central bank could fork ISK into the ATM's as fast as they wanted. They could easily guarantee all savings deposits, as it was just paper and ink.

This makes the crash much easier for Icelanders than those who are stuck with the euro.

I heard a rumour that there were 2 cargo containers at Sundahofn harbor stuffed with ISK when the crisis hit, so the PM and co must have seen this coming, a few months ahed at least, if this is correct.

 

 

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:39 | Link to Comment edotabin
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I think the main difference is that Greek society is in a phase of advanced deterioration and that they are proven "HORRIBLE" managers of money and monetary policy.  All governments fuck up/make mistakes but the Greek situation was out of control for the past 25-30 years.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:34 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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Iceland had the biggest GDP growth in the last two years compared to all EU countries.
Why?
They showed the foreign banks their middle finger and defaulted. No TBTF!
Greece should do the same.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Manny
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Only Greece ?

 

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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Manny more ....

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:30 | Link to Comment tim73
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WTF are you smoking, they got 10 consecutive quarters of GDP shrinking, 5 of which with minus six percent and one with whopping minus 8.6 percent. Icelanders are still pretty much fucked.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 04:58 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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the data doesn't back up either of you:  http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iceland/gdp-growth

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Omen IV
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FANTASTIC!!  great post - i hope they do better than all the clowns on mainland europe

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:34 | Link to Comment tim73
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Maybe you idiot would actually bother finding out the real facts or is it too much to ask?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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Maybe you could put up some links to substantiate?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:44 | Link to Comment Bring the Gold
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Since you are calling him out some linkage perhaps?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Shhhhhh.... That's supposed to be a secret. We don't want the world catching on to the fact that there is life after default.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:18 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Somehow the fact that you can tell the central banksters to piss off and shove their losses has been not seen by the rest of the world? ts the greatest mystery ever....the first country to get into debt troubles told the banksters to screw...everyone since has bowed to the bankers. WTF?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:26 | Link to Comment Arnold Ziffel
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careless, nice post!

very interesting how creative those iceland folks are. More power to 'm!

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:51 | Link to Comment Optimusprime
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It's a thread that fairly screams for threadjacking.  Give us all a break, please.  The Nazi's for whatever their faults, crimes, and errors, were the last attempt by white people to find a way of life NOT shackled by the tribe's usury.

 

We are still under the boot of those the Nazi's sought to free us from.  Fact.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:02 | Link to Comment Albertarocks
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You know who's making a real statement here... China.  China is showing that it's very pleased with those who don't bend over for the global banking cabal.  They're saying "You take care of your business properly, and we'll do some serious business with you."  This is a "huge" statement by China.  And you know what else?  It's a damned good investment.  The Icelanders are good people, friendly and take no shit from Goldman.  Not to mention the fact that the cool and pretty Ice ladies have big titties.  Warm ones.  It's all good!

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 02:32 | Link to Comment q99x2
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel and newly-inaugurated French President Francois Hollande said they want Greece to stay in the euro zone.

Go fuck yourselves. You get the Neo-Nazis instead--pissant globalists.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 03:48 | Link to Comment Vigilante
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Greece is a Left-leaning country.

No comparison to Iceland.

Still stranded in the 70's or something.

Expect a Hugo Chavez type regime come June 10 and a quick euro exit amid recriminations and finger pointing.

Big Govt is still popular in the eyes of the sheeple here.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:49 | Link to Comment greyghost
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headlines...slightly less than half of the police in greece voted for the communist party

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Mae Kadoodie
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Golden Dawn... what's that flower you have on?  Could it be a faded rose from days gone by?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:11 | Link to Comment lasvegaspersona
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that was Delta Dawn

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 05:04 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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no, that was a pun because you see they're neo nazis (from days gone by).

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:53 | Link to Comment Optimusprime
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The Society of the Golden Dawn was the group of "Western Magicians" founded by S. MacGregor-Mathers, which included such luminaries as WB Yeats and Aleister Crowley (who cordially detested each other, BTW).  Read up.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Is it any wonder that Greek police are veering towards the Nazis? For years any attempt by them to book drivers was met by abuse and threats of transfer by people who " had friends in high places" . Unfortunately many of those and other threats were carried out. Often the threats were made by politicians or their family members. This is but one aspect of how the most respected members of the community were treated by the general public.

If you treatpeople like garbage they will often turn into garbage.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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It looks like they don't have to worry about the German war reparations of the stolen Greek gold.  Since they are going neo-nazi that is, lolololololololo.  This is so horrible, no wonder the US market is red, they know the major hammer is about to come down on europe but they don't know how bad it is.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Christoph830
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Ouzo Hall Putsch?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Sandmann
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You would expect policemen to vote for a Neo-Nazi Party - iof it was offered in the US it would probably have NYPD and LAPD sections. There is nothing surprising in that.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:33 | Link to Comment duo
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"To Serve and Protect" has become "To Beat and Extort".

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:43 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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They should beat and extort the bankers.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:19 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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I think that's on their agenda

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:58 | Link to Comment CPL
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Who do you think was the biggest threat after the collapse of Rome.

 

It wasn't the tax collectors or the politicians.  It was the unpaid cops looking to extract a bit of back pay.  Nothing quite says pay up like a press gang of armed and armoured people.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Rynak
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An additional aspect may be: With the current state of greece..... who would want to be among the citizenship-beaters, at such a point in time?

If i remember correctly, a few months ago, both the military as well as the police members voiced complaints about them feeling uncomfortable with the state of things. And chances are that this was the tip of the iceberg.... actual dissent probably happened way earlier already.

Need to pump up the lost troops someway, you know?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:58 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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Cops want to be in on the ground floor of Tyranny. You get paid steady and aren't marked as a terrorist/traitor.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:46 | Link to Comment Rick Masters
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The Algerians freed themselves frem french colonial rule by assassinating cops. There was no suicide bombers involved so don't go all anti-Muslim on me. I'm saying what thye did was created an atmosphere of fear and turned the tables where any cop at any second could be killed by a rebel. But i dont know about greece, but we are nowhere even close to that stage here. Some cops are bad; some are good; some are superb. Whether they deserve pensions like they get is anohter story. But, i'm surprised by the level of anti-cop sentiment. They are just people. However, I do think sometimes, and this goes for the military too, they get way too much praise and free passess. They are no better anbd that is what scares me about today's america. We;'re putting these people on pedestals like they are gods. But that is the history of the Algerian rebellion, to my knowledge.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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"i'm surprised by the level of anti-cop sentiment. (see the quote above yours "the ground floor of Tyranny")

"They are just people"

are they?

Cops, like bankers, are a self-selecting bunch. Ask youself, who for the most part, is drawn to that line of work? Andy Griffiths or nuance-challenged "Us and Them"-ers with authority/control issues riding around in Black & White cars?

"To protect and serve"....mankind

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Jani
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+1 That's the first thing that came to my mind --  Cops are nothing but donut eating former fat school boys (and girls) that gor pushed around in the playground. --- and now it's their time to get even -- the Nazi boot fits them well.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:35 | Link to Comment Acorn10012
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Think a Clockwork Orange.

First comes the Golden Dawn, then comes the shower. Get yer raincoats and shower caps.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment GoldRulesPaperDrools
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It's too be expected that humans who have power also want to conslidate and increase that power if they can.  No new news here.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:53 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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You make a good point there, but the PD can only have power in a totalitarian society.

IMO this post speaks a lot more about the general IQ of the representatives of the PD, collectively wanking the batons on their wet dream...

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment magpie
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A bit counterintuitive. After all the right wing street goons will be doing and taking my job away, right ?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:43 | Link to Comment GoldRulesPaperDrools
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Who said they were `right-wing`?  Nazis were facists, more closely aligned with socialists except for their political methods.  You're talking about state employees (police) after all.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:01 | Link to Comment magpie
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They obviously believe that socialism is a good thing and should be restricted to a pure Greek nation. And then we see how large this Greek nation is going to be.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Rynak
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Who said they were `right-wing`?  Nazis were facists, more closely aligned with socialists except for their political methods.

No. As much as i understand that you dumbshits are desperate for putting dichotomies into the one polarity or the other polarity.... preferably to the one you pointlessly despise (pointless, because the entire system in which your ideological worldview operates, is fake), while at the same time of course making it absolutely clear, that you disagree with both political parties (while having understood shit).

What the nazis did, wasn't to subscribe to one polarity. They actually understood that the whole divide was pure bullshit, because one cannot be without the other.

Whenever anyone is "pro -" it just means his right hand is consciously doing something, while closing one's own eys regarding what the left hand does.

And whenever anyone is "pro +", it just means that he consciously lets his left hand do something, while selectively ignoring what the right hand does.

It's like saying: The group matters, not the individuals out of whom the group consists. Or: The individual matters, not the group which they form. Or: The believers matter, not those who create the religion. Or: The religion matters, not those who subscribe to it. Or: The parasite matters, not the host. Or: The host matters, not the parasite. Or, or, or, or..... SAME FUCKING PATTERN OF MENTAL AND MASSCULTURAL DEFECT REPEATED ACROSS THE GLOBE.

But to get back to the topic: What the nazis did, is what actually every successfully parasitary society did before: Understand that there cannot be a collective without there being individuals (and the other way around)....... BUT not using this insight to create a more fair and sane society, but instead, fully conscious and thus with razorsharp precision thinking about how to abuse this, and how to maximize the "abuse-performance".... how to maximize ponzi.

And even though they supposedly got defeated for it, by now every halfway typical government, is using exactly those methods in a more or less sublte way.

That you still try to classify this universal conflict, between integrity and corruption.... into polarities like capitalism, socialism, communism, fascism, libertarianism, collectivism, individualism.... means that you understood shit.... you are still totally controlled, by the ideological shell game of false dichotomies.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:43 | Link to Comment crouton
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very nice rant. thank you. +1

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:19 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Uh 'Nazi' -National Socialist- party...maybe brush up on actual history and a little less knee-jerk sheepism?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:59 | Link to Comment Rynak
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I think one reason, why peolpe have such difficulty understanding what the nazis did..... is that the ideological worldview of most people, is at worst 1-dimensional, and at best 2-dimensional.

They imagine the world, as if there were only ONE LEVEL OF SCALE.

As if there were no difference between individual level, national level, international level, and so on.

Of course, if i phrase it like this, it is obvious that this is totally braindead idiocy.

And yet, when people throw around with words like "socialism", "nationalism", "capitalism", "communism", and so on, and so on.... no one notices that they are commiting exactly this idiocy.

For Einstein being so glorified, despite of (IMO) him just being a really good sophist, similiar to Kant..... people appear to apply "relativity" only very rarely, and especially rarely understand, what it even means (well, okay, Einstein completely perverted the meaning, but that is another story).

See, whenever you rate an ATTRIBUTE of SOMETHING.... you do not just rate an attribute, XOR not only a "something".... you actually rate an attribute AND a "something" usually relative to something else (the "measuring unit").

What does that mean for what i wrote above? Well, "social" for WHOM? The populace? The national elite? An even higher level than the national elite? And on which level does "national" work?

Kay, enough babbling... here is the decryption of the basic nazi ideology, and it is so stupidly simple, that it is amazing that most humans are incapable of grasping it:

"We must all work together and help each other (the social part), for the higher goal which is the nation (that's the national part)..... with the nation being the tool of the elite in power (this is what is NEVER mentioned in the term "national-socialism".... if it actually were only nationalism and socialism, it would just imply a nation being "introverted" and caring about itself.... BUT once the populace looks up to SOMEONE ELSE for guidance, this turns the entire populace into a horde of robot soldiers, to be commanded by a group of people ABOVE the "nation".

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:08 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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Sheepism for sure.

The Democratic party in the US has little interest in democracy and instead consitently pushes a political agenda based around central planning.

The Republican party in the US has little interest in a republic and instead conisistently pushes us deeper into a police state.

I suspect you know this about the parties here, yet when it comes to the Nazis you shut off your brain after reading the label. After 1934 there were no socialists left in the NSDAP, they had been driven overseas or executed.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:28 | Link to Comment walcott
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You mean authority figures like the party that promises them more authority - let me show you my shocked face :0  

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:28 | Link to Comment css1971
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Central banking is like saving up all your small crises for the BIG one. Why have an occasional bank failure here or there, now and again, when you can have them all at once?

People appreciate that kind of thoughtfulness.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Tenshin Headache
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+1000

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:32 | Link to Comment TWSceptic
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"Scholars and media describe it as neo-Nazi[8][9]and fascist[10] although the group rejects these labels.[11]"

 

"The party is regularly described as Neo-Nazi by the international news media,[82] and members may be responsible for anti-semitic graffiti.[83]


Officially denying that it has any connection to Neo-Nazism, the party maintains that it cleaves closer to the conservative authoritarianism of Ioannis Metaxas.[5] Its so-called Nazi salute is, according to the founder of the group, "the salute of the national youth organisation of Ioannis Metaxas".[81] Its logo is likewise not a Nazi symbol but a traditional Greek meander instead.[84]"

 

Hello, just right-wing extremists.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:16 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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"Hello, just right-wing extremists."

Your comment is overly simplistic. The Nazi movement was socialist in nature.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:22 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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'National Socialists' party to be exact.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 04:52 | Link to Comment Mitzibitzi
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There was also more emphasis on the 'Worker' part of the party name than is commonly acknowledged. I used to have a female neighbour who grew up in Germany in the prewar years; eventually came to England in 1949 - married a British soldier. According to her, you were just as likely to meet Mr. Luger for being a lazy, work dodging scrounger as for any other reason.

Can't help wondering, given the obvious slide in practically every developed nation towards the same kind of state controlled klepto-corporate fascism, if the recent super expansion of the welfare state in those same countries is quite simply a bit of market research?

"Look guys! Free cheese! Here you go, ma'am... don't forget to sign Free Cheese Form LikWid8.40S&W here... and here... and here... and just check we've got the right address down here... we do? Great! And your date of birth? Excellent! Here's your free cheese, ma'am. Ya'll come back again as often as you want."

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:30 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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Occam's razor usually works: the main difference between extreme left and right is that the rights are pretty clear about the way they look on the (mis)use of force, while the extreme left usually steps forward with promises of free candies, social equity and a happily ever after*, only to slowly shove it to the people (in the course of several years) after they get the power. Get the difference?

 

*Any similarities with current events is purely intentional.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Acorn10012
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'68 convention in Chicago...those weren't neocons.

Who nuked the Japs? Wasn't a neocon.

Don't worry...a Dem can eff you in the azz. Just ask Bawney Fwank.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:29 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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ANSAmed, can you please define for us what a pro-Nazi party is?
Media spin doctoring BS. Greeks are mad as hell and they don,t want to take it anymore.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:32 | Link to Comment Bill D. Cat
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I'd be worried if they had a stupidly large government workforce .

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Elwood P Suggins
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This is great.  After all if there were only hard working/tax paying Greeks in the country none of this would have happened.

 

/sarc

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:41 | Link to Comment Ratscam
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Estimates are that the 2000 most wealthy families own 80% of the (now vanished or exported) Greek wealth and probably never really paid taxes on it.
Talking of social dichotomy....

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:32 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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I would say that 2000 families ought to be fairly easy to hunt down.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:34 | Link to Comment midgetrannyporn
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End the fed.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:37 | Link to Comment tamboo
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no doubt funded by the same heeb banksters that profit from all contrived wars.

 

hitler and his pals all sure looked aryan eh?

 

adolf, churchill, stalin, rosenfelt, oybama, bush = rothschild puppets and  yids  one and all.

 

Expose Zionist Lies: "Adolf Hitler - Founder of Israel"

 

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .

I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .

The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews.

The anti-Semites shall be our best friends” 

— Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897

 

Controversy of Zion - Researching Criminal zionism
Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:27 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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A lot of people believe the holocaust was hyped up to justify the creation of Israel.

Did anyone catch that house of representative vote last week? USA working hand in hand with Israel, H.R. 4133.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:38 | Link to Comment mayavision2012
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Would be interesting to know what, if any, percentage of these police officers are not originally native to Greece.  I just recall that during WWII, Stalin had Russian soldiers duded up as fake Polish officers and sent them to guard Poland.  That gave Stalin the real control in Poland and lulled some Polish people into thinking they were "good guys."  Just a thought.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:41 | Link to Comment Stuart
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Considering how many Greeks were slaughtered by the Nazis in WWII, this is astonishing beyond words....

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:45 | Link to Comment Jason T
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it's an interesting study on human nature.. by the way...isreal palastine?  

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:43 | Link to Comment Stackers
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According to www.globalfirepower.com

Germany - 400 tanks ---  France - 400 tanks ----- Greece - 1200 tanks.

THIS IS SPARTA !!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:23 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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It depends on the tank mix. 1200 Mk.1s doesn't mean squat against a few M1 A1Abrams.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:10 | Link to Comment Stackers
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The Greeks couldnt fight their way out of a wet paper sack with 1200 M1 A1Abrams anyway, lol

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Marginal Call
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Nobody said we'd be locking horns with no tigers man.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 04:46 | Link to Comment SilverRhino
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Greek MBT order of battle. 

CFE treaty limit: 1,735

170 Leopard 2A6 HEL 120 mm gun
183 Leopard 2A4 120 mm gun
501/19 Leopard 1A5/GR 105 mm gun
390 M48A5 MOLF (Modular Laser Fire Control System) 105 mm gun

Greece also ordered 400 MBT from the US (M1A1) : No idea if they have been delivered. 

Greece also has 29 AH-64 Apaches.  The Germans have 11 Eurocopter Tigers.  The French have 36 Tigers. 

I'd say the Germans OR the French could be in a possible world of shit if this comes at them.    French nukes against Greek armored columns and fraticiding allied German defending armor .... man that would make one seriously weird news headline.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Hobbleknee
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Any party (in Europe) that is slightly right-leaning is labeled nazi, so I would take it with a grain of salt.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:52 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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The leader does come out swinging in favor of Hitler.  There's not much point in worrying about the LABELS.  You need to understand what these guys want to accomplish.

If it's anything like cleaning up the streets, getting rid of the outsiders and those who refuse to support Greecism, and repudiating all debts to international financiers, you've certainly got all the important FOUNDATIONS for Nazism.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:59 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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<bitchslap>

Go do your homwork and watch Golden Dawn's first press conference after entering the Parlament

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:26 | Link to Comment ironymonger
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Yes, threaten him violence. That'll teach 'em.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:27 | Link to Comment Capt Tripps
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*Ultraviolence*

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:35 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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Call it a wake-up call, he's too ignorant for his own sake and ignorance, like lazyness, is easily transmitted.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:49 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Gee, what a shock.  Radical authoritians with guns and jackboots vote for radical-right nationalist political parties.

Yeah.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:50 | Link to Comment Griffin
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I suppose the Greek police have to deal with illegal immigrants and related crimes on top of being bombed with molotw coctails from furious protesters, deal with increase in suicide, domestic violence and all kinds of things that come with austerity, poverty and general desperation.

This should be enough to make people choose a more direct approach to a problem that is growing out of control.

In times of crisis, cops have the worst job in the world.

I dont think a neo nazi party can survive in a normal society, it needs some sort of horror and hoplessness to get its strengh, its a last resort, when everything else has failed.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:31 | Link to Comment YellowBrickSWE
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Greece won't be fixed until Golden Dawn wins the majority of the votes thats for sure. The Nazis in Germany have already proven that they can fix a country from the worst kind of economical despair and create a pieceful society as long as the countries around Greece won't get jealous and attack.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:03 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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Thanks for the laugh...

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment Catullus
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Quit if you don't like your job.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Monkeyfister
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We're supposed to be surprised that Cops have Neo-Nazi tendencies?

Are we supposed to be surprised that many of them have Authority and Uniform fetishes, too?

 

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Acorn10012
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I love a woman in a uniform.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:41 | Link to Comment dexter_morgan
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I love a woman out of her uniform.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:01 | Link to Comment Savyindallas
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depends on the woman  -some look better with uniforms

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Monkeyfister
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^^^ Exhibit A ^^^

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Dr. Kenneth Noi...
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????? ?? ??????!

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:55 | Link to Comment Zen Bernanke
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There you go, blaming the nazi's again.  More likely the story is a plant by the EU to scare the greek citizens to fall in line with austerity or end up being ruled by nazi's.  C'mon man!   That's just plain ignorant.   Any party that will default on those EU/ECB ass-clowns is Ok with me. 

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:53 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 I'm not surprised. The Greek cops don't want to end up "gyros" sandwiches , when the food carts run dry!

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:56 | Link to Comment piliage
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Think about it, Gyros rhymes with Euros...

[cue scary music and evil laugh]

MMWWWAAAAhahahahahahahah

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:59 | Link to Comment barliman
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Economic and social extremes beget political extremes

Greece having any significant neo-nazi movement is not a considerable risk. It is southern Europe in nature. It is hard to sell the Master Race idea (running the world) to people who prefer to eat well, work less and spend a lot of time at the beach.

Nothern Continental Europe is much more fertile ground for a neo-nazi movement. Especially if the southern Europeans default on a lot of money they owe.

Toboggan rides start out slow ... but once they pick up speed, they can be scary as hell.

barliman

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Desert Irish
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Wait till real austerity kicks in throughout Europe when unprecedented government spending cuts are forced onto the unwilling public. Race roits, cities set on fire, pograms against ethnic minorities. Wether history repeats or rhymes what's heading their way is pretty predictable - a balkanization of Europe. It's not going to be pretty.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:02 | Link to Comment orangegeek
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Nazi stands for national socialist.

 

So the difference between a socialist and a national socialist is?

 

Oh wait, stick a neo in front of it for effect.

 

Big government doesn't work and that what it will be in either case.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:39 | Link to Comment dexter_morgan
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darn it, quit being logical, will ya!

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:40 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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In reality, National Socialism was not particularly socialist and that element of the party was driven out and finally stood against the wall in 1934. Hitler used the name to steal thunder from the Reds in the 20's, but dont get too hung up on labels.

Totalitarian? Absolutely, but not that socialistic in many ways it was a pretty thin veneer. The highest personal income tax rate was in the mid teens- would that we were so socialist in the US.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 02:02 | Link to Comment Peter K
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Not quite. Socialism was first introduced by Bismark during the Wars of German Unification in the latter part of the 19th century. The German (Prussian) socio-economic system was basically a military organizational structure disguised as a society. The populace worked for the state (to support the military), and anyting that was left over was for private consumption. In that order. This was extended to all the territories that the Prussians incorporated into the German Reich. Hitler introduced the concept of universal health care, as a mechanism to control the population, but also as a mechanism to control the reproductive aspects of the German people. After WWII, then entire Bismarkian/Hitlerian social system was kept in tact by the occupying powers, less the uniforms. It was maintained as a couterweight to the Soviet Union which operated a more extreme version of the Bismarkian/Hitlarian social welfare model. The difference between the two systems was that under the Bismark/Hitler model, socialism was an end in itself, where as under the Communist model, socialism was a half way house to total communism. But at the end of the day, neither system was sustainable. And like all things that are unsustainable......

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 07:07 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Correct. Hitler's gig was Hitler and his quest for power.

Party politics took a back seat once he had secured absolute power.

Financing for Germany came thru Americans tied to Thyssen and also thru Belgian bank cut outs. Granddaddy Bush (Prescott) made millions off nazi financing.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:43 | Link to Comment MrPalladium
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NSDAP

National Socialist German Workers Party.

Nazional Socialistiche Deutchen Arbeiter Partei

Sounds like and economic reaction of sorts!

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:07 | Link to Comment ILikeBoats
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Sorry Tyler, I like this site a lot, but I am not buying the "Golden Dawn is a Greek neo-Nazi" stuff.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:11 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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Cops voting for Nazi's? Why would that be a surprise.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:21 | Link to Comment world_debt_slave
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nature abhors a vacuum

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:29 | Link to Comment bobola
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Hard to understand, based on what the Germans did to the Greeks during their WWII occupation.

Greek cops need to read their history books, if they can read........... 

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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There seems to be a split amongst Greeks on this, depends on which books you read I suppose.  Some Greeks are hostile to Germans, others not at all. My wife is from Athens and I have met both types, I had a very successful Greek doctor here in the US who was there during the war tell me that the Germans were very well behaved, and that the only problems were when (in his words) "the damn Communists shot the Germans to provoke them and stir up trouble". Others hate them only slightly less then Turks.

A matter of perspective I guess.

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 01:51 | Link to Comment Peter K
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Same situation in Poland and in France from people I've met and spoken to. In France, the resistance only started when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union (pre-emptively ala Iraq) and was mostly Communist. In Poland the Germans were well behaved, unlike the Russians who stole anything and everything they got their flea infested hands on. They paid for everything, but didn't tolerate any resistance. The Germans viewed freedom fighters as terrorists. Couldn't comprehend the concept of guerilla warfare.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 18:58 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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I will be VERY surprised if there is another election.  Greek history has as many military coups as it does bankruptcies.  A military takeover in my opinion is now better than 50-50 by Memorial Day, the real question is will the EU and EMU play ball with the junta or will the junta simply opt out of the EU.  I do not see how any of the EU leaders can simply ignore the fact that a military dictatorship took over an EU nation, any more than I can see the US government looking the other way while a new confederate army took over Texas and declared it independent. 

As to any police force voting Nazi, I am more surprised that some of you are shocked by this.  Police recruiting looks for blind obedience which is a first priority in fascism.  If we had a Nazi candidate here in the USA I am betting two thirds to three quarters of our cops would vote for him.  But it is especially bad in Greece because most of the urban cops have not only had to take a pay and benefit cut but then are abused by really pissed off rioters who see them for what they are, the tools of the oppression of Greece (EU/Germany).

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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By the way, don't forget that the next rock thrown at the EMU is in two weeks time, Ireland votes on ratification of the bailout mechanism and it looks like if the vote were held today it would lose badly. 

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 06:58 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Only the % of cops who were nazis to begin with, and they would eventually be weeded out. There are always a few.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:01 | Link to Comment Joe The Plumber
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The cops have a lot of restrictions

Golden Dawn can go into the worst section of town and beat the shit out of addicts, neer do wells, and other unsavory types who refuse to leave and who are loitering and up to no good. I saw an article where the people in a bad neighborhood were happy golden dawn cleaned it up. The police feel helpless when they see trash on the streets. Golden Dawn is doing what the police wish they could do

Unfortunately they will probably go too far

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 06:54 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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That is why the police in Germany largely allowed the SA to operate with minimum restrictions. Also in Fascist Italy.

It always happens when the ruling government is bereft of moral authority, corrupt, and etc.

One Italian cop, Mori, was hated by both Fascists and Socialists- because he enforced the law without favor.

After Benito established the Fascist State, Mori went to work for him, for even Mussolini had respect for his honesty. He was sent to Scicily to fight the mafia, which were suppressed until the Allied invasion.

Cops want an easy smooth job, same as anyone else. Obey the law, obey the rules, everyone gets along OK for the most part.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:28 | Link to Comment pissing_excellence
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[about the unrest in Cuba]
Michael Corleone: I saw a strange thing today. Some rebels were being arrested. One of them pulled the pin on a grenade. He took himself and the captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't.
Hyman Roth: What does that tell you?
Michael Corleone: They could win.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:31 | Link to Comment israhole
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"more than half of all police officers in Greece voted for pro-Nazi party Golden Dawn in the elections of May 6th. "

 

It's about time. The goyim got JEWED again!

Thu, 05/17/2012 - 10:06 | Link to Comment Andy Lewis
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Suck my cock.

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:45 | Link to Comment Beard of Zeus
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I like Golden Dawn. If I were Greek I would vote for them.

Only those who have a reason to be afraid, are afraid.

Why are you afraid?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 19:49 | Link to Comment Zgangsta
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Wait...you mean that half of the cops didn't vote of the fascists?

What an enlightened age we live in!

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:16 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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Naw, it's not like the USA--they have MORE THAN TWO PARTIES there!  Crazy, right?

Tue, 05/15/2012 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Poor Grogman
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Hayek in his book "the road to serfdom"

Comes to the conclusion that socialism either collapses of it's own deadweight, or morphs into fascism.

Those are the only two possibilities. It is very hard to dismantle socialism once it takes hold, as there is a voter block for every piece of government largesse.

Greece is at a dangerous stage.

What will it be Greece?

freedom or tyranny??...

Wed, 05/16/2012 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Rick Masters
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I agree that once real socialism take hold it would be hard to dismantle but thinking there are only two possibilities seems too Kantian (Either/Or. if I'm misusing Kantian.) I belive we have some sort of coporate sponsored quasi socialism here for the 20 percent (I'[m trademarking that). The 20 percent would be workers at defense firms, cops, gov't workers, military, etc., who make money off gov't subsidies and without that they would cease to exist. mainly I want the defense firms to go down and a lot of unneeded entitled gov't hacks. I'm for a free market and a meritocracy but mainly because I was head of my class, veldictorian, studied electronic communication (web editing) and can't get a job. And I thought it would be a lot easier it's not like I was an art history major. I'm fucking pissed. And there are millions of me, unfortunately most of em are srupid and are obssessed with zombies but really I think they are just fucking pussies.

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