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Majority Oppose Obama Second Term In Latest Investors Business Daily Poll

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Another poll, another blow (for Obama). While it is no surprise that the president's rating has tumbled to record lows over the past few weeks, courtesy of his inability to fix the unemployment problem, and to fix the bank loan situation (whether that is a function of lack of supply or demand is unclear, but it is broken dammit, the punchliners will say), according to the latest IBD/TIPP poll, "a majority of Americans now oppose giving President Obama a second term." And while this means that our chart which calculates how many jobs Obama will have to create by the end of his second mandate to get back to December 2007 unemployment will have to be scrapped, it still leaves the question open of which Republican is more qualified than Obama to preside over the Wall Street bribes collection agency. Oh and running the country every now and then.

From IBD:

By 51%-41%, respondents in October picked "someone new deserves a chance" over Obama "deserves to be re-elected." Among independents, it was 54%-36%. Back in September, the readings were 50%-44% and 53%-38%, respectively.


Americans are frustrated over the continued sluggish economy, says Raghavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, which conducted the poll. As Vice President Joe Biden recently admitted, after nearly three years in power, the Obama administration owns the economy.


Half of Americans give Obama poor or unacceptable marks in creating jobs and economic growth vs. 24% who say he's doing well.


Among independents, it's 51%-18%. 33% of swing voters give him an "F" vs. just 2% who give an "A".


That underscores Obama's intensity problem. In addition to his deteriorating support among independents, just 77% of Democrats say Obama deserves re-election while 88% of Republicans say he doesn't.


The Occupy Wall Street movement, while directed at fat cat bankers, also reflects broad dissatisfaction among Obama's political base.

Who does IBD foresee on the other side:

Still, while Obama may be losing by double digits to "somebody else" ultimately he will face off against a real rival. The GOP nomination race is fluid, with Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Herman Cain the current top contenders.


If the election is a referendum on Obama and the economy, he faces an uphill fight. So he will try to convince voters that his eventual opponent is unacceptable.

Gee, no mention of Ron Paul. How original.

As for the poll itself...

The IBD/TIPP Presidential Leadership Index fell 0.2 point in October
to 46.3. That's the eighth straight month below the neutral 50 level,
signaling disapproval. Obama hit a personal low of 45.1 in August, near
the peak of the debt ceiling standoff. The IBD/TIPP poll of 909 adults was conducted from Oct. 1-5, with an error of +/- 3.3 percentage points

Whether Obama stays or goes, one thing is certain: America will, as it always has, elect precisely the president it so richly deserves.


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Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:47 | 1758172 GeneMarchbanks
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Good luck with the Pizza guy America. Eventually Romney/Perry will look like the same candidate canceling each other out. So it'll be Cain...

RP will continue to be shunned like a leper, sadly.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:49 | 1758194 Careless Whisper
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he's got a 9-9-9 plan; 9 inch pizza, 9 toppings, for $9

the sheeple will go for that

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:52 | 1758221 GeneMarchbanks
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Charming. If the sheeple only had $9.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:58 | 1758256 redpill
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Paul > Cain > Pomney/Rerry


Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:14 | 1758329 whstlblwr
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You want Cain, if you want more bailouts! Reward corruption.

He rob employees but give the bonus to his big corporate boss!!

"Cain served on the board of directors throughout Aquila's ill-fated trading misadventure and the subsequent collapse of the company's retirement fund. In fact, he chaired the board's compensation committee, which, according to the lawsuit, had direct oversight of the push to get employees to invest more and more in Aquila stock….Aquila and other companies would buy energy from California at a lower capped price, move that energy out of the state, then re-sell it back to California at a higher price for a tidy profit.

Richard Itteilag, a plaintiff in the Aquila class action, lost 87 percent of his savings. Robert Goodson, a 20-year Aquila employee, lost 75 percent. Michael Reinhardt lost a staggering 94 percent. All told, thousands of employees saw their retirement funds eviscerated thanks to Aquila's Enron-esque activities.

Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002, with the company's stock plummeting. A month after the Kansas City Star reported on the hefty bonuses in July 2002, the company laid off 500 employees, and the losses to employees holding company stock had reached hundreds of millions of dollars.

The suits alleged that Cain and top company officials violated a 37-year-old federal law requiring that employers manage employees retirement programs responsibly. (Cain's presidential exploratory committee did not respond to a request for comment.)

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:20 | 1758341 Haywood Jablowme
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As I mentioned time and time again, Obummer will go down as the worst President in both USA and USSofA history. 

Not only was he played by Big Corp & the Banking Cartels, but the idiot played himself in the process.  The sheep are finally waking up.   BAAAAAAHHH!  BAAAAAH!  BAAAAAHHHHH!




Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:21 | 1758347 Montgomery Burns
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Quite a feat after lil bush.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:44 | 1758463 Spastica Rex
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Next one will be worse.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:50 | 1758487 hambone
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sounds bullish???

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:05 | 1758561 kito
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hows them postal layoffs coming along there spas?

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 12:49 | 1761423 Spastica Rex
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Excuse me? Was there news that they were tabled? I missed that.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:07 | 1758579 CompassionateFascist
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There will be no "next one". This beltway ZOG-bankster regime is unendurable. Expect Ron Paul (or another TP'r) to go 3P, split the Repube vote, and give B.H. a narrow win in the EC while losing >55% of the popular vote. First Tuesday in November, 2012. Then: 60 days to Fort Sumter.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:57 | 1758822 jeff montanye
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ron paul will win the republican nomination and be elected president.  the only thing that can stop him is the cia/mossad.  gary johnson for v.p.

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 15:03 | 1762017 AllegoryOfTheCave
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israel/mossad will be helping him get elected. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:01 | 1758545 Pants McPants
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Obama has been/is a disaster, but he's nowhere near the bottom for worst US presidents (IMO).  Plenty of time remains for Obama to make a splash, and I think he will be re-elected, because as the above states the US gets what it deserves.

FWIW here are my bottom 5, all of whom are much much worse than Obama:

1.  FDR

2.  Lincoln

3.  Wilson

4.  TR

5.  LBJ

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:12 | 1758602 Hugh G Rection
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Lincoln worse than Wilson???

Ok I understand FDR #1 but #3 for the guy that sold America to the banksters?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:19 | 1758642 Pants McPants
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Um, yes.

The Civil War is a disgusting pockmark upon US history.

But really, we're arguing semantics - ALL of the presidents on my list were I guess it really doesn't matter where they are placed (so long as FDR remains #1)

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:03 | 1758847 Long-John-Silver
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It was a legal secession too. It was never about slavery. Once you get past the historic revisionism it was all about States Rights. Look around today and see for yourself how many rights States have. Obamacare is the tool that will/has completely eliminated all States rights. As for the Slavery issue, we still have it. Blacks still live on the Democrat Plantation and vote for their White Masters at a 90% rate. You can't be free and expect 90% of a people to agree with anything unless they truly are Slaves.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:09 | 1758877 Freddie
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The south was making good money on agriculture and tobacco.  They did really need NE banksters money.  The house of roth (euro bankers) wanted that tobacco business and agriculture.  The war of economic domination.  As you said blacks never have been let off the plantation.  

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:45 | 1759007 UBIGDummy
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First cockgobbler to start the executive order BULL shit.  Like dictatorial powers.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:28 | 1758698 hivekiller
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You forgot Clinton and the Bushes. They were the ones who put the nail in the coffin for America.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:36 | 1758733 nyse
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They may have thrown the first bits of dirt on the coffin, but America was already in the ground, or at least in the coffin by then.

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 12:53 | 1761450 Spastica Rex
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You left out that Papist JFK, and that flaming homosexual Ronald Reagan.

You sound like you should run for President.

Yeah, I'm trolling.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:16 | 1758334 BoNeSxxx
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republicans already blew it when they let the dems co-opt #ows... i just saw that assclown eric cantor whining about #ows on fox news.  in what parallel universe will 'we stand with the bankers' get you elected?  hopefully not this one. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:25 | 1758363's picture

Obama voted for TARP and he got elected.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:30 | 1758384 Dr. Richard Head
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It's amazing to see the posturing of politicians on Capital Hill, their respective TARP vote, and their support or denial of the OWS movement.  On one hand you have TARP Yes Cantor telling the OWS people to buzz off (which is at least consisten with his pro-banker baiouts) but Pelosi and Obama (Yes TARP men) want to support OWS.  I guess every movement needs a party to take it over. 

OWS and the TeaParty were anti-establishment in the beginning.  TP became a faux Republican front soonafter the beginnings.  Will the Democrats do the same to the OWS operation?  Sad thing is that most of the TP concerns initially and the OWS concerns are one in the same. All politics needs to advance the false left/right paradigm is to get those movements talking about the 1% emaotional issues that would never be tended to anyway.  Gotta get the people to fight amongst themselves you know?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:47 | 1758474's picture

TP became a faux Republican front soonafter the beginnings.


The real Tea Party is still out here, politicians in populist drag notwithstanding.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:20 | 1758645 mr_T
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What we need is CHANGE
What we need is more HOPE

Did I mention I am insane...

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:07 | 1759080 RichardENixon
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There was no need for you to mention it.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:03 | 1758284 espirit
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Pretty much any Republicrat fits the bill of "which Republican is more qualified than Obama to preside over the Wall Street bribes collection agency."

So the question becomes whether anyone would win based on the people's vote, as most feel "by the oligarchy-for the oligarchy. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:34 | 1758400 Dr. Richard Head
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I disagree with your Pretty Much Any Republican Fits the Bill, unless you meant the bill to be the status quo.  Romney, Cain, and Perry have identical fiscal, monetary, foreign, and social positions ACROSS THE BOARD. 

The attitude of anyone but Obama is precisely how Obama got into the White House. The chant of ANYBODY but Bush was the mantra and all we ended up getting what a slightly darker skin-colored Bush that speaks a bit better. Same fiscal, monetary, foreigh, and social positions have been emitted from Barack W. Bush, as George Bush. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:44 | 1758462 Nascent_Variable
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this poll is irrelevant.  Bush's failed reelection was a foregone conclusion at this point in the '04 election cycle.  Disliking an incumbent is not the same as showing up and voting for someone else, especially if that someone else, especially if the somebody else in question is a guy nobody really cares about.  See John Kerry.

An incumbent president has access to virtually limitless campaign money.  He has a massive operation and in thi case, the advantage of not having to run in a primary.   Make no mistake about it - Obama still has a huge advantage.

But as you said, in the end it doesn't matter who gets elected.  Any candidate other than Ron Paul will simply be a continuation of the status quo.  The only thing that changes is the tone of the discussion.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:50 | 1758489 Dr. Richard Head
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Perhaps a no campaign slogan-

No One but Ron Paul

- or -

Ron Paul or No One.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:58 | 1759055 krispkritter
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A. Romney

B. Perry

C. Cain

D. None of the Above

E. Ron Paul

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 02:58 | 1760261 Reform1776
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Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:23 | 1759721 wee-weed up
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"Charming. If the sheeple only had $9."


One word - foodstamps!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:12 | 1759598 philipat
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"I always deliver"

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:51 | 1758213 LeonardoFibonacci
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No to black folk in the White House cause they will only mess things up & leace fried chick'aann bones all over the fucking floor.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:52 | 1758225 Troll Magnet
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have some fucking class.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:05 | 1758563 hivekiller
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You forgot watermelon rinds.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:51 | 1758214 Troll Magnet
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cain will NEVER get the nomination.
with perry and romney out to eliminate each other, i'm more optimistic than ever for dr. paul's chances.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:43 | 1758451 Dr. Richard Head
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No kidding.  Each day that passes with the Republican Party pushing this candidate or that to the forefront is another day I feel a little better about the changes of Ron Paul.

First and foremost, Ron Paul voters will vote for their man on principle alone. We don't view the elections as a fantasy football draft where we can trade our guy for the guys poised to win.  The dedication of his supporters is amazing and quite frankly I haven't seen one Cain, Romney, or Perry sticker anywhere.  Plenty of Ron Paul though.

Secondly, these three candidates are taking swipes at each other and drawing blood on real issues of lack of fundamental principles by these "front runners".  The three will fight and cut each other and draw blood, while they try their best to not give Ron Paul any attention.  The holes the other three cut out of each other leaves any voter paying attention with a great amount of concern about another big government politican taking away the rights of the people. Besides, Romney quit in 2008 and will do so again.  Cain and Perry can battle it out, with Cain coming up on top, but Federal Reserve Chairman Cain has a couple of skeletons that conservatives don't particulalry like.

Finally, I have read some rumblings that the rules for primary delegate allocation has changed for this go around.  Does anyony know if the allocation of delegates is still winner take all or are they awarded proportionally to the voter total now?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:13 | 1758609 CompassionateFascist
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One way or another, Ron Paul will not get the repube nomination. He is out of synch with the Israel gang. What he can and I hope will do is go 3P. See above.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:52 | 1758217 baby_BLYTHE
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Ron Paul wins Value Voters straw poll by double-digits, so... Let's talk about Hermain Cain! unbelievable

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:53 | 1758230 GeneMarchbanks
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Thank Fox & Friends

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:27 | 1758371 r101958
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Thanks for posting that video. To all those below that lump Ron Paul together with the rest as 'just one of the gang' then you should watch the youtube clip above. It should be very clear to all who watch that they discard the fact that Paul won the vote and move right along to Cain and Perry. If Paul did not worry the establishment then they would not marginalize him as they do. Indeed, if he were part of the establishment cabal, and he achieved these numbers then they would be trumpeting his name on every broadcast. They are very worried about him. Perhaps they hope they can mitigate his influence sufficiently to relegate him to the role of republican spoiler much like Perot in 92. In that case, Obama gets reelected and they can deal with the devil they already know much easier than they can deal with Ron Paul. This is their goal. Either a 'popular' establishment Republican gets elected or Obama stays in office. The only way Paul gets elected is via a well organized grass roots effort. This effort has to be peopled with folks that are tired of being told that they have only two alternatives especially when those alternatives are candidates that have been chosen and vetted by the very establishment that is causing all the problems we seek to remedy. Ron Paul can win - it will just take a lot of effort.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:26 | 1758689 earleflorida
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funny thing about Paul is that he's always at the front of the line when earmarks are handed out, but bites the hand that feeds him,... 

don't get me wrong, i like where he stands on the FRB but have this gut feeling that i'm going to be the next mutton dish served up?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:58 | 1758826 damage
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If they're going to spend the money anyways, why not get some back to his constituents instead of letting the president spend it on other crap?


He votes against the actual spending bills, but he writes in earmarks into the bills he votes against. I personally think it is a brilliant idea... and earmarks were part of how the system was designed anyways.

The whole anti-earmark issue is only pushed by GOP establishment fucks like yourself who like to pretend 1-2% of the budget is the problem, when earmarks aren't even the issue at all. At least some people can get some bang out of their tax money back this way.

Besides, how else do you think he keeps an 88% approval rating in his congressional district?

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 03:00 | 1760263 Reform1776
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Good post!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:11 | 1759089 krispkritter
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(Dumb)Fux & Fiends?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:55 | 1758242 Troll Magnet
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you know how it goes, bB.
dr. paul is an invisible man!
even if he gets the nomination, they'll pretend that obama is running against obama.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:00 | 1758272 i love cholas
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Who gives a rat's ass about Ron Paul. He is more of the same political non-sense.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:27 | 1758369's picture

This anarchist loves Ron Paul.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:51 | 1758797 earleflorida
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i am an anarchist progressive - but these Texan's all,... aren't worth the salt in my spit

go detroit  

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:15 | 1758900's picture

Ron Paul's from Pittsburgh.



Dormont High School, class of '53

City: Pittsburgh, Pa.

Awards/Activities: Lettered in Track, Tumbling award, Wrestling, Student Council president, Service award, National Honor Society

Voted: Best All-Around

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:21 | 1758912 Freddie
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What is "go detroit?'  Oh you are a brainwashed moron who watches TV.  An idiot who thinks these bread and circuses sports entertainment games mean anything. WHta a dumb f**k.

Go back to your brainwashing in HD.  Dumb sheep.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:11 | 1759238 WeekendAtBernankes
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'Anarchist progressive' LOL

Are you being sarcastic or were you injected with Gardasil as a child?


Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:46 | 1759303 weinerdog43
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Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:06 | 1758292 kloot
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Paul squared! that would force the media to report. i dont know what they are waiting for, announce it already.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:31 | 1758385 wombats
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Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:56 | 1758248 kito
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Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:03 | 1758282 tgmur10
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"formerly of the FEDERAL RESERVE"  Wonder why we don't hear to much bout that...........  Cain's the last human I want to see in the White House!!!!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:10 | 1758309 WonderDawg
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I point out Cain's Fed connection to everyone who wants to talk about him. They look at me like, so what? They still don't get it.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:17 | 1758333 whstlblwr
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Of course not, it's why you tell them he part of lawsuit, he stole money from employees and gave big fat bonus to his bosses as stock shares plunge!!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:10 | 1758311 redpill
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I don't like it either, but it is worth noting it was the Kansas City Fed, and he worked there for 4 years in the 90s.  Not exactly the same as the revolving political door at 33 Liberty.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:22 | 1758354 kito
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change your avatar to the blue pill please. look at his history, look at his comments about his defense of the fed regarding its secrecy. only lately he is changing his tune...hmmmmmmmmm, interesting timing. im sure his heart has changed. hes of the people now.....HAAA AHAHAH AAHAHAHA  FUCK....HERMAN....CAIN......

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:26 | 1758364 redpill
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Did you even read my comment?  I'm not defending him, but it's a notable difference than something like Geithner going straight from the NY Fed to Sec of Treasury.  I have a feeling Herman Cain is not part of an overarching banking conspiracy, whereas Timmy has pawn written all over him.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:37 | 1758413 kito
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try not to go with feeling and go more with fact and research re: cain. did you read my comments? have you looked at his statements regarding the fed? are you kidding me? hes just another tentacle on the great sucking squid. FUCK HERMAN CAIN 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:40 | 1758431 redpill
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Feeling?  I'm not the one being emotional, here.  Calm down kito.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:06 | 1758572 kito
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youre right.....breathe......breathe.......ok....better.....sorry...

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 08:55 | 1760595 WonderDawg
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The bottom line is, you don't get to be president of The Federal Reserve Bank of KC, or any of the Fed banks, without being "one of them". You don't go that far unless you are a confirmed member of their club. So to me, he's one of them, and this must become common knowledge lest we make another foolish mistake and vote him in. He talks a good game, but that's what all politicians do. Fuck Cain.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:50 | 1758788 karzai_luver
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You may wish to go back and read what old Herman said as to Tarp and the bank bailout.

He was a 100 and 10% supporter of Tarp  and any other bailout that was of a banking nature and he even called any who didn't agree some very nasty names.


How does it matter that a guy, who to this day defends the banksters and says they did nothing wrong AND was 100 and 10% for the bailout and even called the bailouts "free markets" and shucked off the dissent as a "purist free market" clown show, doesn't happen to live in NY and/or have keys to the Bernank's bathroom?


foolish and silly.


You compared him to timmyG and used the notable diff, I would say you are defending him. WHy do you pill poppers twist the language so that it means nothing. To compare him to that scum and note he is different would make him what exactly? A minor scum , your scum , our scum.


foolish and silly.


Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:27 | 1758367 SheepDog-One
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People got to be quite 'tarded indeed if they want this Herman Cain asspuppet for the FED....did that meteor fly by and remove everyones IQ?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:38 | 1758743 Dr. Richard Head
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Herman Cain - Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank Kansas City, supporter TARP bailout, Patriot Act, unconstitutional wars of Bush & Obama. Sounds like he is perfect for the status quo though, so at least he has that going for him.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:52 | 1758804 karzai_luver
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Points for brevity there!


100 and 10% correct.


I think he maybe working the anti-christ thing.


Where did that 999 er 666 thing come from anyhow..........................

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:05 | 1758287 Ruffcut
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The majority doesn't pay attention. No awareness. Only hope for a better candidate. Hopium and candy for all children. High fructose corn syrup coated dog turds for all the sheeple.

I was hoping for a Newt/Mitt ticket. THe country deserves the brain of a newt and an IQ of a Mitt.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:09 | 1758304 Azannoth
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It's not Obama's fault he was born black (err half black) and thus shares all the traits of the African race, diminished intelligence, no love for hard work, not owning up to his responsibilities and blaming everybody else for his own failures, you got what you voted for a

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:29 | 1758380's picture

So what was George Bush's excuse?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:52 | 1758495 Ruffcut
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George's excuse was no child moron, left behind.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:14 | 1758617 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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I think it was missing one or more chromosomes

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:38 | 1758419 SRV - ES339
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... simply pathetic

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:48 | 1758786 whstlblwr
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You in wrong place, you mean to go to blog, "Zero Whitey" a blog for you white trash. Obama is failed president, but he is not lazy.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:54 | 1758796 Azannoth
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All the people who junked me and think I am wrong I dare you to vote for him go ahead make my day (and ruin your life and the life of the next few generations)

How many black people have gotten the Nobel Prize (not for peace), how many are engineers, brain surgeons, rocket scientists, software developers etc. or do any work that benefits from having an IQ > 100 ? If they are not qualified for that how do you think they are qualified to run a country ?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:18 | 1758919's picture

So you're really cool because some other white people do awesome things?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:33 | 1759279 whstlblwr
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Disgusting stupid piece of crap, don't you think black's social past have something to do with position in life? Obama is clearly brilliant man, he fall into same trap any status quo president fall. McCain, Clinton, it would be same.

Let's not resort to sterotype unless you want us to see how stupid you really are.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:12 | 1759597 beatus12
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 Azannoth would you put up your c.v? - just wondering how

it would stack up against  team Obama. Or better yet,

Dr Condi Rice, or your surgeon generals doctorate, or the phD of

the head of Nasa.  Of course if your don't have any

creditials, you could alternatively post your net wealth to

compare to Oprahs self-made media empire billions. Your

hatred of yourself is the only thing I can gleam from  your

opinions. Proud of all the African American people that are clearly pouncing on your parade.


Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:23 | 1758356 HD
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I'd love to see that - for no other reason than to watch a few million redneck heads explode.  The bible belt will lose it collective mind.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:43 | 1758765 MFL8240
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Anyone is better than this clown.  The man is a walking, talking, lying disaster.  Complete failure and exactly what to expect from someone so utterly unqualified it defies logic that anyone would have voted for this clown in the first place.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 16:37 | 1758977 UBIGDummy
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You mean FORMER FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIRMAN OF KANSAS CITY Herman Cain is going to win?   Why not just elect Bernanke.  You know Fuck up and move up. 

Hell John McCain destroyed 3 aircraft, probably was the cause of the forestall fire that killed alot of sailors and He almost made Prez;)

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:45 | 1758173 HelluvaEngineer
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Time to kill Osama again!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:49 | 1758195 Troll Magnet
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no sarc. this really ought to be bullish.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:56 | 1758249 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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They tried!  They killed Awlaki, but nobody cared!  LOL

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:09 | 1758303 HelluvaEngineer
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Actually, he's been killed twice.  Note the date on this article.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:39 | 1758429 SheepDog-One
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Yea how many times can they kill these same guys, is 3 the limit?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:16 | 1758623 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Oh no! ZOMBIE muslim terrorists! We must OCTUPLE the defense budget now!!! /sarc off

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:10 | 1758310 nmewn
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A U.S. citizen.

So much for all the gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes on civilian trials in NYC or anywhere else.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:56 | 1758818 karzai_luver
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The good deal about this new and improved war is that we get to kill NBR1 a million times.

So fukin boring when the only nbr1 gets killed. Very bearish.


Maybe we need to have a coaches poll to decide who is the new nbr 1 this week.



Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:47 | 1758782 MFL8240
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End this kind of talk. Like it or not, and I don't, he is the President.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:47 | 1758180 Don Birnam
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One must assume that a good portion of that 41% must have SNAP in the wallet. The fact that the second integer is still quite high, bodes ill for the future, frankly. They just don't get it...yet.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:46 | 1758181 TradingJoe
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Jawohl! ZeroDamus will Not get a 2nd Term! History will remember ZeroDamus as the one and only Black US Prez who became jewish! :))

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:28 | 1758375 SheepDog-One
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NegroDamus has a golden Yamulka, OY VEY!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:47 | 1758185 Careless Whisper
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The Careless Whisper Afternoon Update


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Mobster In Witness Protection Program Opens Strip Joint 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:53 | 1758229 ??
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Goog+ I tried to register but it was by invitation only

now that it is open   F them



Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:47 | 1758187 dasein211
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Wouldnt it be funny if the russians were paying off the slovaks to kill the efsf. Offering more safety and money than the banks with a huge chance to buy europe on the cheap with petrodollars.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:56 | 1758244 ??
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why would you say that

this is soley and purely a matter of principle, I mean we are talking about politicians who are driven to serve and do what is best


I wonder what Russia would have to offer and if there are competing bids, an auction of sorts -- though one must be careful as it is the big leagues and Nato is just about finished their mission to free Libya

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:19 | 1758644 CompassionateFascist
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No. Slovaks are German catspaw. Serbs are Russian catspaw. Read history. Then make it.  

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:25 | 1758681 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Hadn't thought about that previously. Perhaps the Slovaks would know more intimately that when Russians do "wet work" they don't miss and they don't worry much about collateral damage.

Allowing Russia to buy things on the cheap (of course they could be competing with China, Gulf nations, etc) is one thing, but the power vacuum created from this would benefit Russia--mostly from central/eastern EU nations. Of course, it could also mean that Germany would be a big winner from the euro crashing as it is the strongest player in the EU.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:48 | 1758188 RSloane
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I'm all good with Obama losing the next election. Unless there's an 'event' or a 'false flag event' that literally saves him, he's gone.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:14 | 1758243 baby_BLYTHE
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an economic collapse will be the 'event' and it will destroy Obama. Ron Paul will be in place to become president during the creation of the new monetary system. Funny thing is, the breakdown of Breton Woods is what brought him into politics in the first place. Now he will finally get to oversee the return of America to sound money.

Ron Paul: The Case for Gold. Minority Report of the U.S. Gold Comission

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:37 | 1758409 Tater Salad
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I'm not so sure about that.  I believe that if there was a complete economic collapse, let's just say 400-600 SPX, 15% Unemployment, major unrest in the streets...I think there's a strong chance people will beg government to "save them" from the turmoil.  They'll beg for the government to step in and help them...

That could save Obummer and I'm not so sure he's not hoping for such an outcome.  I truly think he wants to figure out a way to stay in the White House forever.


Mon, 10/10/2011 - 15:26 | 1758686 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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You mean like having the election come down to FLs electoral college votes and the Supreme Court saying "No re-count"?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:47 | 1758189 steveo
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Columbus day buy program
When the volume internal looks like this....god save you if you are short.

However, this type of bear crush can often be very temporary, crush ----then flush.

I have other methods that indicate tonight or tomorrow could be a great time to short.   That said, the world indices on prior post are indeed  looking bullish.   I would stay long in any position.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:49 | 1758202 TradingJoe
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Suit yourself!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:49 | 1758197 TeresaE
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Pretending there is a material difference between ANY of them shows our blatant stupidity.

Nearly 50% of Americans get some kind of federal kife.  Many more get their paychecks in large part due to federal spending.

There is NO way anyone but the SAME type guy is going to get in.

A vote for any of them is a vote for the status quo.

How the hell is that working for us?

But it will continue, until the very day it can't.

And it won't matter which one of the four is in office, they will be fine, we will be FUBAR.

Ain't democracy grand?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:49 | 1758198 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Obama trends 1:1 with the DXY!  LOL

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:49 | 1758199 ian807
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With all due respect, what other answer would you expect from an Investors Business Daily poll?

Disclaimer: I read Investors Business Daily almost every day, but am not blind to its biases.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:50 | 1758204 slaughterer
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What can Obama pull out of his hat to save his second term?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:56 | 1758246 azzhatter
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I like the previous post about kill Osama again, maybe 2-3 more times. It's good for a pop in the polls

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:05 | 1758286 Deadpool
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a poor Republican candidate and more people on government assist programs. they tend to vote for the hand that feeds them over the one that threatens to take the stamps away.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:22 | 1758353 whstlblwr
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Put bankers in jail, prosecute. No more taxpayer money for failed business. Take power away from scary mother fucker control freaks at Homeland Security.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:27 | 1758368 Montgomery Burns
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No fee mortgage refi @ 3% for anyone current who wants it.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:38 | 1758420 Montgomery Burns
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OK, make it 2%

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:30 | 1758381 SheepDog-One
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Free fried chicken?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:33 | 1758396 buyingsterling
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a suitcase nuke?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:39 | 1758425 Tater Salad
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Perhaps the constitution

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:40 | 1758437 SRV - ES339
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How about a list of the GOP contenders... lol!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:02 | 1759069 Charles Bishop ...
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The absolute, unvarnished, truth.No matter WHO goes to the gallows because of it.THEN we will see.The Clown Car occupants will continue being a coterie of single-issue, white-skinned dwarves with American flag lapel pins.There ARE no candidates. There are only problems that must be solved,or the "United States' as it is now known, will dead-cat bounce, and then begin to fester. new instruments must be crafted,or the economies will grind to a halt--and then you will well and truly begin dancing to the tune of the 1%, or you will perish.

 If you'll excuse me, I have a few kilotons of iridium to sign off on, and an application to review: Any of you know a guy named Carter J. Burke? he says he used to work for a 'Dick Fuld." We're assuming that name is fictional--as is the accompanying letter of recommendation. No matter--with what we have in mind,I don't care about his personal qualifications, he just has to have no qualms and a strong stomach.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:01 | 1758216 hambone
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And this matters why?  Repub or Dem in the WH is just stylistic bullshit...congress is not going to cut the spending and their own throats, er, re-election bids.  IT DOES NOT MATTER Perry, Romney, Obama...same same on 90%

Election cycle is simply another diversionary sideshow (RP will jetisoned asap) focuing on social issues and allow folks to believe they still have a "voice".

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:05 | 1758289 dirtbagger
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Right on Hambone

Voters should read the constitution.  The executive really has few powers outside of commander in chief and the veto.   Most of the power resides with congress -arguably 535 of the most corrupt and venal individuals on this planet.  

Voters need to dump their congressman every 2 years until they begin representing the people.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:47 | 1758475 buyingsterling
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Yes, it is presently a sytem of control, where real passions are vented off to the ether. It's a trap. The founders rebelled under less oppression because the world carved hard people back then. Now we're sculpted by our cushy couches. If rebellion should have happened long ago, then it's more overdue now than ever. But political campaigns are presently the only place where someone can legally stand and say, "give me power and I will change things" and have a national spotlight. And seeing one after another election produce the same results is a necessary condition for changing the system or moving on to another system that works. We can't win this game, but we can put some players in who will help us put the lie to it.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:52 | 1758220 ??
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<--- tweedle dum

<--- tweedle dee

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:19 | 1758338 Problem Is
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 0  <---  You're funny...



Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:52 | 1758223 slaughterer
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OT: Bulls must be mindless maggots not to take profits at 1190.    THERE, now I feel better.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:56 | 1758247 hambone
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You, Slaughterer, and your negativism is all this market needed to pop the top and run for 1200...thanks, thanks a lot...

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:02 | 1758281 slaughterer
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It seems that bulls have one more bullish tape bomb with the Slovak vote YES.  After that, what is left?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:18 | 1758319 hambone
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I have no idea what comes next...but I do know that underestimating the ingenuity and willingness of governments, CB's, and bankers to keep the game going has been a losing bet since March '09. 

The most important point to remember is that they no longer care about how this will all turn out in 10yrs, 5yrs, 3yrs, probably even's all about here and now...think with that mindset and you see there are many levers and games still to be played (don't think about the larger implications of these actions...think only about the here and now and then maybe we will understand their actions).

BTW - actually 1191 seems a good short term buyers exhaustion point...just not sure we'll see much pullback / consolidation b4 the next leg up???

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:32 | 1758390 SheepDog-One
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Since March 09 your up what, maybe 1,000 DOW points? Throw in the USD decline since then, and youve got a stagnant bet at best. Big deal.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:55 | 1758444 hambone
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SP500 up 540pts from March '09

Dow up a little less than 5000pts

near 100% gains in the indexes (and utter wipeouts of bearish positions against) is a big only point is there is no real reason to expect a market collapse absent a political collapse or groundswell of the people (and that's seems a little unlikely).  As long as the same folks are at the controls, expect more of the same...take todays market action for instance, rip 33 S&P points on no volume and then levitate on 1189 all day (I'm not even sure the traders didn't leave the floor and head for donuts accross the street?).  Whole thing is on autopilot.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:52 | 1758226 Abitdodgie
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This will fix America all we need to do is replace Obama with another complete idiot with exactly the same policies, but this time let him promise what he thinks we want to hear and then do a 180 when he gets voted in . In this case the dems and repub can agrue between themselves as to who has the bigger dicks , that should pass another 4 years of rape and pillage just nicely and keep the status quo.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:37 | 1758410 Zymurguy
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That's why if the country truly wants to change the status quo... we need to get Ron Paul elected.

Restore the Constitutional Republic, end the Fed', prop our currency and criminalize these abuses in the financial sector that are destroying the World.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:54 | 1758234 bob_dabolina
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95% approval on Amsterdamn Ave. and 125th St, IBD must not have been polling there.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:54 | 1758236 riphowardkatz
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$2.00 gas and 1% 30 year mortgages will fix those bad ratings in a jiffy. Count on 4 more years.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:54 | 1758237 azzhatter
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Is it possible to write in Bernie Madoff for prez. The guy was at least good at what he does

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:59 | 1758261 digalert
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The big question:

Who are the democrats going to vote for?


Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:59 | 1758262 Piranhanoia
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a grain of salt?   The investors are waiting for him to announce they get a free wash, rinse and dry instead of a haircut.  

Can you say, extortion?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 13:59 | 1758266 kito
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obama is giving bonuses to the states that can wratchet up the food stamp rolls, er, voting registration rolls,  as fast as possible. oregon just received a 5 million dollar bonus.


you are a fool to think obama wont win when he has a head start of 45 million plus already voting for him,,,,,,

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:33 | 1758394 SheepDog-One
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Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:12 | 1758273 reader2010
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He'll engineer 35% stock market rally between now and November to get him installed the second time.  You may say he's a cocksucker but he ain't stupid.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:15 | 1758330 Problem Is
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Barry isn't stupid because the Teleprompter tells him so...

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 14:20 | 1758344 HellFish
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Barry isn't stupid?  Proof please.  All normal documentation of his rumoured intelligence have been supressed.

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