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Majority Oppose Obama Second Term In Latest Investors Business Daily Poll
Another poll, another blow (for Obama). While it is no surprise that the president's rating has tumbled to record lows over the past few weeks, courtesy of his inability to fix the unemployment problem, and to fix the bank loan situation (whether that is a function of lack of supply or demand is unclear, but it is broken dammit, the punchliners will say), according to the latest IBD/TIPP poll, "a majority of Americans now oppose giving President Obama a second term." And while this means that our chart which calculates how many jobs Obama will have to create by the end of his second mandate to get back to December 2007 unemployment will have to be scrapped, it still leaves the question open of which Republican is more qualified than Obama to preside over the Wall Street bribes collection agency. Oh and running the country every now and then.
From IBD:
By 51%-41%, respondents in October picked "someone new deserves a chance" over Obama "deserves to be re-elected." Among independents, it was 54%-36%. Back in September, the readings were 50%-44% and 53%-38%, respectively.
Americans are frustrated over the continued sluggish economy, says Raghavan Mayur, president of TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence, which conducted the poll. As Vice President Joe Biden recently admitted, after nearly three years in power, the Obama administration owns the economy.
Half of Americans give Obama poor or unacceptable marks in creating jobs and economic growth vs. 24% who say he's doing well.
Among independents, it's 51%-18%. 33% of swing voters give him an "F" vs. just 2% who give an "A".
That underscores Obama's intensity problem. In addition to his deteriorating support among independents, just 77% of Democrats say Obama deserves re-election while 88% of Republicans say he doesn't.
The Occupy Wall Street movement, while directed at fat cat bankers, also reflects broad dissatisfaction among Obama's political base.
Who does IBD foresee on the other side:
Still, while Obama may be losing by double digits to "somebody else" ultimately he will face off against a real rival. The GOP nomination race is fluid, with Mitt Romney, Rick Perry and Herman Cain the current top contenders.
If the election is a referendum on Obama and the economy, he faces an uphill fight. So he will try to convince voters that his eventual opponent is unacceptable.
Gee, no mention of Ron Paul. How original.
As for the poll itself...
The IBD/TIPP Presidential Leadership Index fell 0.2 point in October
to 46.3. That's the eighth straight month below the neutral 50 level,
signaling disapproval. Obama hit a personal low of 45.1 in August, near
the peak of the debt ceiling standoff. The IBD/TIPP poll of 909 adults was conducted from Oct. 1-5, with an error of +/- 3.3 percentage points
Whether Obama stays or goes, one thing is certain: America will, as it always has, elect precisely the president it so richly deserves.
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Unlike JFK, he knows exactly which side of the bread is buttered and which side of cock he needs to suck on.
Barry couldnt engineer a clusterfuk!
Oh Yes He Can! (and did. Per orders...)
Obama will get a second term. Which Republican wants to be president in the present mess? Better be comfortable in the opposition.
Other than RP being a Repugnicrat, I don't know why you're getting junked. On his deathbed McCain will say that's why he selected Caribou McCokespoon as his mate.
Obama will get a second term. Mark my words.
That would be very Bullish for Gold and Silver!
On another note: Intrade is showing 47.8 chance of Obama winning his reelection bid.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474
I couldn't stop laughing when watching the FOX'S interview with regard to the Ron Paul's straw poll win. Yet, watching it I also felt so degraded and cheep being manipulated in such an crud way. The media/party doesn't even try to hide the manipulation of the voter's opinon. It's as crud as it get's.
Look beyond it and vote Ron Paul......
love to see a poll of how many want him to serve out his first term.
When the republicans have power they go ape shit mad with power and screw over anyone not in the top 1%. When the democrats have power, they can't find their ass with both hands. When they share power nothing gets done - unless the bill was written and paid for by a lobbyist.
We desperately need a congress full of non partisan independents that are not bought off by wall street and the unions.
Sorry - I had a case of hopium there for a moment...I know it's hopeless and we are truly, deeply screwed.
The vast majority of "our representatives" have proven to be incompetent or corrupt because the fault lies with the system of representative government itself. Stop looking for kindly masters and assert your individual sovereignty.
yeah we get it, lots of people are not happy with teleprompter Obama.
so what?
do not despair, we will have the opportunity to replace him in 2012 with teleprompter Perry, Romney, or Cain.
people place far to much importance in who sits in the oval office and reads from the screen.
I think Douglas Adams said it best in Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy-
"the office of the president exists not to wield power, but to draw attention away from it."
election 2012..bread and circus bitchez!
if only we could get everybody to head to the polls and instead of picking yet another R or D puppet, write in a vote of "no confidence" instead
100 million no confidence votes...now that would be making a statement.
Federal Reserve is a pariah now to all sides. Cain is DOA because of this.
Crystal ball time: the Canarys go kaflump, swamping Washington and OWS at once.
Erection Day canceled, bitchez!
awesome!
That's WILLARD Romney
Willard... W-I-L-L-A-R-D... You know like the rat movie???
After this last fucker... no aliases, no nick names... Just exactly what it says on your birth certificate...
I'd say SCARY!
say what you will but that is some really NICE HAIR...plenty of elections have been won on less!!!
Nice wig!
WB7 -- lest we not forget Ken -- pardon, Jon -- Huntsman. The chap is the spitting image of a Ken doll, and frankly, just as personable.
http://www.parade.com/images/-v5/news/slideshows/ken-through-the-years/m...
Yes, how long until implodes in yet another cloud of buffoon dust.
As for me, non of them is electable ....
By the way.
This one for Perry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhDhDRvHaGs
This one for the other nut http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFB6LQ1-WKU
And this one, becuase it's really cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehYoIKTsiV0
I implore the Red Team: please run someone who isn't mentally ill. That's the only requirement - not Obama and not mentally ill.
Romney, I'm afraid, hasn't got a chance. As far as people in the south go, he might as well say he believes in Xenu and body thetans.
Who oppose a second term for Obama Bin Lyin' the Wall Street puppet, corporate shill and warmonger-in-chief whose only economic policy is No Bankster Left Behind???
I do! I do!
The current administration has never exhibited any concern for what the voters want...
Be prepared for threats to delay the election
There wont be an election.
They said the same thing about Bush and Cheney. The oligarchy relies on the illusion of popular will. There will be elections.
and there wasn't an election was there? score Sheep Dog 1...
Obama... Black men in white house begging for change...
Cain .... Black Men in white house collects the change.
Gentlemen's and Ladies' please empty your pockets for change.
And no need for racial accusations…..
How about accusations of not being funny at all?
better than being called a racist
So you're a sensitive xenophobe?
President Puke
I love the smell of barbecued shorts in the mornin'...."He who sells what isn't his'n, must DELIVER or goes to prison!
LOL repubs tryin to throw their own black in the mix....what a damn clownshow! But the people of america DESERVE totaly the raping theyre getting and its ratcheting up daily!
Whether Obama stays or goes, one thing is certain: America will, as it always has, elect precisely the president it so richly deserves.
This brings to mind a couple of H.L. Menken's keen observations,
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
and
The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
It is too bad that even H.L. Mencken did not realize that we live in, what ostensibly is, a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. Democracy is mob rule. There is a very good reason that our Pledge of Allegiance refers to our country as a Republic and there is a very good reason that our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution do not even mentioned the word "democracy".
(Click above link for full speech, given by Daneen G. Peterson, Ph.D.)
So, Mr. Mencken's "keen" observations seem to reflect a complete and utter lack of knowledge of the type of system, We the People, live under, ostensibly. That says a lot about someone who was born in the 1930's and died in the 1950's. Goes to show how far back the system was perverted and corrupted.
Hence our Pledge of Alligence:
I pledge alligence to flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
I think Menken did realize this is supposed to be a republic. Hence his disparaging attitude about "democracy".
(and by the way, HL Menken, September 12, 1880-January 29,1956)
Since up to this point I have only read a small amount of Menken's writing, your comments have prompted me to pursue more detail in his views of democracy vs. a constitutional republic. From a quick internet search it appears that the lack of knowledge is yours, as the following quotes demonstrate:
The only guarantee of the Bill of Rights which continues to have any force and effect is the one prohibiting quartering troops on citizens in time of peace. All the rest have been disposed of by judicial interpretation and legislative whittling. Probably the worst thing that has happened in America in my time is the decay of confidence in the courts. No one can be sure any more that in a given case they will uphold the plainest mandate of the Constitution. On the contrary, everyone begins to be more or less convinced in advance that they won't. Judges are chosen not because they know the Constitution and are in favor of it, but precisely because they appear to be against it.
and a link to a brief essay on Menken
http://mises.org/daily/3359
Your observations aren't so keen either:
Henry Louis "H. L." Mencken (September 12, 1880 – January 29, 1956)
This poll reeks of a pre-amble for the "we would have kicked him out of office if there'd been some competition but..." commentary that's sure to surround election day 2012.
Add me to that poll. Reelection of Emperor Obama would be the most catastrophic error of our era -- even worse than the previous worst error -- his ELECTION!
This poll just goes to show me that still, a significant portion of people polled - 41% overall - are terminally stupid, and think Big O needs another chance at being "Leader of the Free World". Sad, really. Also, based on this:
"Half of Americans give Obama poor or unacceptable marks in creating jobs and economic growth vs. 24% who say he's doing well."
it is my firm belief that 24% of Americans polled would spontaneously fall over dead if not for the fact that breathing and heart beat is ruled and regulated by the autonomic nervous system. They most definetely have the cognitive abilities of Amoebas. It is woefully apparent that they lack higher cognitive functions. My apologies to unicellular organisms.
My wife keeps calling him HERB Cain - guess we lived in San Francisco too long!
Comrade President Obama is a Hero of The Soviet Union.
Long Live Our Socialist Muthland !
Withdrawn. Thanks!
You need to discover who actually bankrolled Lenin and his movement. The truth will set you free.
The price of said truth and freedom is $17.72 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212
Been trying to think about these key matchup possibilities
Obama Vs Cain : Once you go black, you never go back.
Obama Vs Romney : Neither one of them are Christians
Obama Vs Perry : If Obama is Bush 2.0, and Perry is Bush 2.0, who is going to be Bush 2.1 ?
Obama Vs Bachman : Debate? Better bring your birth certificate.
Obama Vs Paul : Reduce the Deficit! Sell Texas to the Mexicans.
Paul Vs Obama : Better Dead than Fed.
Obama Vs Clinton : I'd bomb Iran the first year of my term. Oh Yeah, I'd bomb them the first month. Oh Yeah, This Saturday, it's on! In your face! I'm bombing them right now.
Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, and Alan Grayson are the only competent politicians left.
You really think so? All of those three you listed are brought to you by the same evil Infinite Growth economic and monetary paradigm, which's installed by the same elite. We're all FuckeD if you seek the truth.
sander's is without a doubt the only true american left standing tall in DC, period!!!
Grayson had some worthwhile input on the Fed but otherwise is a batshit crazy loon with no self control. He's like the male version of Wasserman-Schultz but with fewer balls and one brain cell short of the pair she has...Florida breeds these nutbags and makes me ashamed to say I live here.
What is BO going to run on?? Guy has done nothing he promised in his great speeches... big money must have made him an offer he couldn't refuse... and he grabbed it... seriously, Obamacare? The wars? Sheeeet!!
PAUL is our only hope, but tell that to a typical sheep... we are freakin' doomed.
"34" months and the grand uniter - the wedgie miester is already a lame duck,... oooh, hope is me
Usual ZH paranoia not withstanding I'll put in 2 cents for Cain. He has good connections here in Las Vegas. He made his 'I'm going to announce' announcement here. He met with a libertarian leaning org here and has regularly been on the Heidi Harris morning radio show. He won the Conservative Leadership Conference pol. He is not some secretive person who is trying to get elected by sneaking in. He has been boots on the ground, 14 hour day, sweat equity kind of candidate. I'm not sure he is everything I'd want (I like Ron Paul and feel that his knowledge about the monetary system tops all) but I'm more than willing to consider his message and view his plan. I think he is capable of slugging it out with the best.
Las Vegas is run by the Jewish mob which is probably why they are attracted to a guy named Cain.
+1 hivekiller. "probably why they are attracted to a guy named Cain." LOL
I'm guessing that Yomama will pull another false flag to either get re-selected or anointed permanent dictator of the US to protect us against the 'terrorists'. The legislation is already in place. According to Jim Willie the Federal Reserve has hired several hundred thousand mercenaries to impose martial law and to disarm the public. They will be rounded up and put in FEMA camps never to be heard from again.
9/11 got Bush re-elected, Oklahoma City got Clinton re-elected - I think we've got a pattern going here folks.
Federal elections don't matter. But, the protestors on the street might force the status quo to pull the plug on TBTF. I think they have Bernanke's attention too.
Please refer to him properly as Federal Reserve Chairman Herman Cain.
When the populace starts getting all bent out of shape over politics, free-food protests, and distractions such as these...I wonder what's really going on?
'running' the country, what a nonsense. Running the people, I mean slaves.
buying gullible tax slaves that the new super committee is selling, I mean leasing out, has begun
http://reporting.sunlightfoundation.com/2011/big-pacs-contribute-83000-super-committee-members/#.TpNWpKeUqWQ.facebook
Free Mortgages for everyone , that should be good for 16 more years
a mortgage is a debt, dim bulb. although it has been proposed that the government would force everyone to accept a mortgage to pay off the national debt, including those who have no debts, such a plan would be reckless and immoral, which begs the question. why haven't they done it already?. free mortgage, thats' an oxymoron of the highest keynesian variety
Only the racist black population will vote for him again, because he is black.
If Obama gets more than about 12 percent of the vote we'll know you're wrong. Do you really expect such a lopsided defeat for an incumbent?
Carter got killed pretty good...This is all a side show...I fear something big is coming down the pike...Call it the hair on your neck twinkle
He's WAY better off not being re-elected.
For HIS sake, the country, and his families.No way he can overcome the negatives associated with him, his Presidency,and his agenda's.
If we were in 75% better shape, he WAS stilll the wrong man to try and run a Democracy, like a Socialistic nation.
It will be very interesting to see how the next (One term Republican) President will solve the problems.
are you guys for real?? you REALLY believe RON PAUL will save you? how many times do you have to be taken to the cleaners before you guys start to QUESTION EVERYBODY???????? you really believe that the oligarchy will simply let you vote them out of office? i don't care about silver/gold and the Fed. that is the the HOOK LINE SINKER on the American public. this is DEJAVU of 2008 all over again. a black man was president and that meant CHANGE?? yeah right look what happened..it was the black president representing the wishes of the whitest people at GOLDMAN SACHs. now because he is a Libertarian he is suppose to mean LIBERTY???? stop being so naive about the system. back in the day the king simply told you who ruled and that was it. that was the end of it. there was no voting for a new king. today, people grew smarter and wanted more rights but the system of power has remained the same. there is still a permanent ruling class and only the ILLUSION of choice. the media has a field day showing you the new characters and choices and you get to think you are FREE and live in a so called democracy and you go vote for the guy that is suppose to bring you liberty and every time you get more of the same. the OLIGARCHY is not going away. deal with it in a new manner. voting for their puppets is a waste of time and energy that could be used different. americans need to grow some balls rather than go sing hippie songs of freedom and expect the oligarchs to just give up their power. they are laughing at you. if he was the answer to the problems he would have been DEAD a long time ago. he is still around and able to speak against the FED because he is not a threat to them. he is an asset that will be used when the time is right.
You're wrong. Paul is a threat which is why they try to pretend he doesn't exist. But if he gets enough traction they will kill him or they will do their usual rigging of the elections. But the problem is deeper. Almost half the population in the US is dependent on the govt. for a check. Talk about a constituency for socialism.
you're wrong. all i hear is the mainstream talking heads talking about how is being ignored. reverse propaganda. they are making him look like the unsung hero by saying he is being ignored. it makes people think like he is being conspired against and that he MUST have the answers because the elite are trying to subvert him. come on , they aren't that stupid they are masters of psychology.i just heard people at the teachers talking lounge saying how "ron paul makes so much sense". you know when teachers are saying that, then you know he is being elected.
Old Barry wins in a walk.
My friends at the GOP tell me they really don't have a party platform; agenda; electable candidate for POTUS. They further advise that the smart money is going towards buying Governors races and Senate Seats.
Expect more Status Quo.
Yes, we'll all be suffering like bitches. And, for all you fools who think "Socialism is Bad", let me remind you all that we all live in the largest socialized economy the world has ever known. The question stands: "Who's benfitting from this massive redistribution of wealth?"
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