Man Arrested In New York Terror Plot

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Sun, 11/20/2011 - 19:32 | 1896808 wrs
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bombing what? The markets?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 19:48 | 1896875 Boilermaker
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MF Global servers and filing cabinets.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:00 | 1896914 eureka
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when does the US ponzi collapse?

A) 2012

B) 2013

C) 2014

how many US citizens betw 18-65 will be without food, homes and jobs in 2013 - after US austerity cuts?

A) 50 million

B) 100 million

C) 150 million

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:04 | 1896946 Zero Govt
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target was a "public building"..at least it wouldn't have effected US productivity any

...maybe it was a Guy Fawkes decendent 

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:17 | 1896983 Max Hunter
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Is this ever going to get old.. These manufactured terrorist plots have got to be about cycled out... or?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:00 | 1897108 Ahmeexnal
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The truth about OWS:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/20/occupy-wall-street-leader-reportedl...

 

 

A key Occupy Wall Street leader and another protester who leads a double life as a businessman ditched fetid tents and church basements for rooms at a luxurious hotel that promises guests can “unleash [their] inner Gordon Gekko,” The Post has learned.

The $700-per-night W Hotel Downtown last week hosted both Peter Dutro, one of a select few OWS members on the powerful finance committee, and Brad Spitzer, a California-based analyst who not only secretly took part in protests during a week-long business trip but offered shelter to protesters in his swanky platinum-card room.

“Tents are not for me,” he confessed, when confronted in the sleek black lobby of the Washington Street hotel where sources described him as a “repeat” guest.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:03 | 1897116 High Plains Drifter
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they just don't understand the anger do they?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:49 | 1897243 NewThor
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What do you gentlemen think about this article?

http://news.yahoo.com/australia-probes-obama-security-slip-141257252.html

I think Obama is set up to be the biggest bagholder in history.

Those who place him in power sound ready for a change.

Somebody better call Jack Bauer. 

If something like this happened. 

I wouldn't go near a city for days.

CRAZY TIMES GET CRAZIER

God Bless Everyone

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:00 | 1897267 High Plains Drifter
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smells like mossad............perhaps a warning to the shiny black man to be nice and quit calling bibi a liar..........etc........

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 03:31 | 1897776 oldman
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Thor,

All I could think of was the moment I heard that "a passport of one of the terrorists was found on the sidewalk" after WTC

Any port in a storm seems to be the plan every time MSM wants to divert our attention-----no idea from what, though     om

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 04:42 | 1897829 NewThor
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The universe carries infinite everythings. 

The greatest chess game of all time. 

There is a way to pull this plane up from its 

nose dive before it smashes into

worst case of worst case scenarios

stuxneting nukes out the domes

seas of glass that will almost always last.

New America. Let the best Blueprints rule.

awake lucidity 

 

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:06 | 1897130 augie
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While i admit OWS was most certainly founded for intentions not made known to most protestors, the words "truth" and "fox news" should never be used in the same sentance unless preceded by a negative qualifier.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:17 | 1897160 GenX Investor
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Dick Bove says to buy OWS hand over fist, undervalued?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:44 | 1897232 augie
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undervalued as a 7% italian, aged 10 years; just the way he likes em'

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:32 | 1897334 Roger O. Thornhill
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Absolute BS.

He had some pipe, a pipe cap, a clock and some christmas lights - but had no explosive of any kind. Seems like all hardware stores can now be raided as "bomb factories" for carrying plumbing supplies.

Either Bloomberg is trying to shift the story from the OWS thing, or he's looking for more federal funds for NYC.

I watched the report on the "device" and just laughed. I feel like I'm in a George Orwell novel. Things are getting ridiculous!

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 23:27 | 1897462 NewThor
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Do you know who is cooler than Roger O. Thornhill?

Dexter CK Haven

 

Bloomber reporting on OWS is like FoxNews reporting on the Rupert Murdoch hacking scandal.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 23:45 | 1897501 Lord Koos
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It's always good to keep the fear flowing.  If people weren't afraid, they might think they don't need their masters.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:50 | 1897245 NewThor
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The government knew the anger and riots were coming.

OWS allows them to front run the places and have proper security. 

 

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:42 | 1897226 Quinvarius
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So what?  Capitalism does that for people who actually earn money too.  Being mad at socialists and crooks has nothng to do with income.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:58 | 1897264 Outlaw Of The W...
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brad spitzer........not an Irish name is it?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:01 | 1897274 High Plains Drifter
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i would be suspicious even if it was     o'spitzer........

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 23:43 | 1897496 Lord Koos
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You don't often see the words "truth" and "Fox News" in the same sentence.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 23:51 | 1897514 williambanzai7
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Certainly not the quitessential freeloading unemployed smelly flea infested hippy commie anarchist I was led to believe is running rampant on the streets of lower Manhattan.

The funny thing is Fox don't even realize how stupid they look by trying to make something out of this.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 00:24 | 1897580 mkkby
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Yep.  I'm sure the cops gave him the idea.  Gave him the target. Gave him the bomb (fake?).  Now they can justify more surveilance on the people, and the sheeple will think it's for their own good.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 02:05 | 1897715 r00t61
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I'll bet it turns out that this terror plot guy was:

1. Born in Iran

2. Osama bin Laden's dog walker

3. A Muslim theology major in college

4. Single-handedly responsible for sinking the USS Maine in 1898;

and whatever other interesting bits the CIA can come up with.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:06 | 1898145 Archduke
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[the organisation, money, weapons came from the FBI]

 

don't you wish you could spirit a nice ranch out of this?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:37 | 1897038 Michael
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Is this incident supposed to continue making me feel sorry for NY so we keep giving them money? AS a carrier machinist with 30 years experience, I'm the victim of the system.  

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:41 | 1897048 Carlyle Groupie
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"Cooperative pacifist species, are killed to extinction."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnpEI3njoeo

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:52 | 1897083 Triggernometry
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I hope it doesn'y turn out to be an FBI informant/asset/patsy.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:52 | 1897249 NewThor
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They will probably pull a OWS 'member' terrorist plot foiled! story soon.

The media hit on OWS has been focused and brutal.

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 10:58 | 1898374 Chrome Child
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They already have. The loony tune that shot at the white house last week has already been 'tied-in' with OWS protesters via FAUX News.

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/11/18/372290/fox-news-occupy-shooter/

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:03 | 1897276 High Plains Drifter
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a machinist huh?  you have skills that will be useful to the resistance..........

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:06 | 1897277 High Plains Drifter
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.......

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:41 | 1897050 AldousHuxley
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It is a true story....here is the picture of the suspect in action

 

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_mar2008/GayTerrorist.htm

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 03:32 | 1897775 Element
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 Is this ever going to get old.. These manufactured terrorist plots have got to be about cycled out... or?

 

nah it's like WWE 'wrestling' on the box, no matter how lame or impossible to suspend disbelief  ... it NEVER gets old

 

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:22 | 1897170 eureka
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"target was a "public building"..at least it wouldn't have effected US productivity any"...

... well, since US "productivity" arises mainly from FED printing a.k.a. "financial services" any terror act might actually increase said "productivity" ...

in the other hand, looking at real productivity, such "considerations" are entirely irrelevant; US real and taxable productivity expands at one quarter the rate of US debt

happy thanksgiving US'ians - it will be one of your last - as a serfs of the current Federation a.k.a. "union"...

Mon, 11/21/2011 - 09:26 | 1898005 optimator
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The target was Fort Baxter in Roseville Kansas.  Lots of details, Col. Hall, camp commander will be holding a press conference.  Seems the motor pool was the target.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:07 | 1896959 Dr Paul Krugman
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This fascination for collapse is mind boggling!  What will change that will "collapse" the system?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:23 | 1896994 Arthor Bearing
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Well, first of all, read some Nassim N. Taleb. Things that could change to collapse the system: deleveraging deflationary debt spiral, hyperinflation, real oil price triples, liquidity crunch takes out financial system like in 2008, except with no bailout to end it. And that's just off the top of my head, those are "known unknowns." Nobody knows what kind of unknown unknowns there are, like a solar electrcal storm that shuts down power grids or something.

We live in a fragile world (recklessly fast changes based on technological growth + massive debt will do that) so any significant disruption has the potential to send the entire house of cards crashing down.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 20:55 | 1897031 Dr Paul Krugman
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Wow.  You just quoted Donald Rumsfeld.  The only way you could have sounded better is if you had quoted Donald Trump.

Technological growth is a great thing.  It increases productiveity.  When productivity increases, supply can increase.  Price will eventually find equalibrium.

The debt will increase spending, and decreased spending is the main problem, right?

Hyperinflation will not happen to the reserve currency.  The market for dollars and bonds is too large for that to happen.  An increase in just a trillion dollars is nothing compared to the quadrillion of dollars that are in existence.  A trillion dollars of spending is a drop in the bucket, which is why Obama should buckle up and just do it.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:49 | 1897213 Vagabond
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I notice you didn't mention the energy problem.  Also, "The debt will increase spending".  What world are you from?  You mean new debt?  So your plan is more new debt so we can live high on the horse for a few more years while spending money we don't have?  And then we'll owe that plus interest.  Great plan genius.  Infinite growth is impossible Mr. Krugman, and the only possible way a debt based currency can exist forever is if there is infinite growth.  We don't have infinite growth and we unfortunately have come to the point where growth is stagnating.  The system has been flawed from the get go, and you are advocating my generation continue to take the shit storm for your generation's comfort.  Some of you boomers still can't seem to realize that the growth you experienced during your lives is not normal, and not sustainable.   This system will come to an end, and your neivity is what is truly mind boggling.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:53 | 1897250 Dr Paul Krugman
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Technology increases, and productivity increases.  The only thing creating an energy crisis is not advancing technology.  So we need to continue to fund this, which means we need to fund technology and thus we create growth.

The only thing holding back growth is asinine policy that will stimy it.  This why "austerity" is ridiculous.  We need to fund our projects.  Not doing so is Draconian, and we all no what happens then.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:01 | 1897272 Vagabond
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Have you looked at the EROI on oil?  I'm pretty sure technology has come a long way in the last 100 years.  Why has the EROI fallen so dramatically?  Are we ready to start building nuclear facilities all over the place?  It doesn't look like it.  Where's the energy coming from in 20 years?

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:06 | 1897289 Dr Paul Krugman
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The EROEI is lower because we have increased our ability to extract it, obviously.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:40 | 1897216 Everybodys All ...
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Hyperinflation will not happen to the reserve currency? Right, sure we are somehow different. Textbook stupidity.

The market is the Federal Reserve right now and they are monetizing our debt as we speak. How long can that go on? Indefinately according to you. Why work then. Hell lets just all print our pay checks. The US Federal Reserve holds the most in dollar terms of US treasuries right now compared to even China. That is monetizing debt at a rate I have not seen in my lifetime. Hyperinflation is coming and Keyensian economics will be to blame.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 21:56 | 1897258 Dr Paul Krugman
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Economics is a matter of percentages.  I am not advocating increasing annual spending by hundreds of trillions of dollars, just a couple trillio or so.  This will fill the pipeline, and spur growth.  It will advance technology, which will spur production.  Then prices will find equilibrium and we will once again be in a stage of prosperity.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:19 | 1897308 Everybodys All ...
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Didn't work so far now has it and the farther along this path you go the less effective it becomes because people will and rightly should fear the collapse of their currency. People who trade the markets have been buying commodities as a result of this policy and this creates the negative feedback loop in the real economy because of the higher prices.

At what point do you give up and realize that president Hardings policy of austerity did work or do you advocate a worldwide jubilee. Because at the rate you want to spend our debt can never be paid back.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:26 | 1897321 Dr Paul Krugman
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The higher prices are transitory.  Once there is growth then there is an increased amount of money in the ystem.  Then we can afford the higher prices.

And what do you mean it hasn't worked?  9% unemployment might be historically high, but it would have been a lot higher if nothing had been done the first time around.  Now Europe needs to play its part and help its banking sector.  When it does, then the problem will be solved, we will increase growth, and viola!  Then we can pay back the debt increase because the economy will be on track.

Sun, 11/20/2011 - 22:38 | 1897341 Everybodys All ...
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Poverty at all time highs. Real unemployment is at least 16%.  Also, take a look at the total workforce number and you will see why unemployment can be said to be 9%.  No one can claim this policy has worked for the unemployed.

The banking sector is hiding so many losses and no one with an ounce of sense believes the numbers in their earnings reports. The real estate collapse is no different than what happened in the thirties. Banks failed then and they are going to fail now. The big difference is we are now looking a few sovereigns failing along with them.

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