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Market Snapshot: Open Modestly Positive (For Now)

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S&P futures just opened mildly positive in line with the recovery in EURUSD from its Sunday afternoon lows (having broken below 1.335). As we post, Gold has opened very noisily but remains a little higher than Friday's close at around 1642. It seems the apparent no news from Dexia (which is clearly terrible news) is yet to be considered by reality but as we noted on Friday, the fact that Treasuries are closed suggests reactions may be a little unexpected with no immediate safe haven to flood to. JPY crosses are slightly higher sustaining the very small bid under ES for now as it tracks a small range around 1157-8. Very early runs in credit land show a small compression in Main and further senior-sub decompression in financials. Oil also opened up small but more reflective of the small drop in DXY than anything else for now.



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Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:22 | 1755713 RobotTrader
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For all the knashing of teeth the last few days, looks like Dexia is a non-event.

Hey, at least gold is up, so most of the ZH bloggers should be high-fiving the ES futures ramp.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:24 | 1755716 mynhair
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Robo got a first, bitchez!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:28 | 1755723 SheepDog-One
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Robo still never been laid though.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:55 | 1755775 Esso
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Most likely RoboTarder has never made a trade either.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:13 | 1755804 SilverIsKing
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Speaking of Dexia, on July 7 & 8 this year, S&P and Moody's gave Dexia A1 and P1 ratings, respectively.

See page 11:

While not the top ratings available, just three months later...and they're gone!

Not that we didnt already know but these ratings agencies really do not know what they're doing...or do they???

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:30 | 1755828 knukles
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                 (maniacial laughter)

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:50 | 1755868 topcallingtroll
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Play nice.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:32 | 1756043 Randall Cabot
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He hasn't figured out how to get a chick into his mom's basement yet.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:48 | 1756090 RoRoTrader
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The banks are going to print, print and print.......Mervyn King summed it up, "What a mess we have created - sacrifice the pensioners and savers. Print."

This 2010 r squared.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:30 | 1755727 wombats
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Who cares about ES futures.

Tell me about Pitchfork futures and Torch futures.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:34 | 1755738 Id fight Gandhi
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You can always set your watch to the typical low vol, Sunday night futures melt up. Fraud and manipulation at it's finest.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:18 | 1755813 westboundnup
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Keep f'ing that chicken.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:19 | 1755816 Market Efficien...
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treauries closed, EU repos not reacting before 7 hours from now, why should there be a gap down in Asia? Dexia is not Lehman re direct effects. The problem has not occured during the weekend but last Tue, decisive EU policy action has lost its credibility before the announcements of crucial meetings this weekend and the structural consequences of Dexia such as credit rating impacts yet unassessable, you will have to wait at least until some time during the day tomorrow for things to unravel.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:23 | 1755715 mynhair
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Nobody cares anymore about Europe.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:27 | 1755720 SheepDog-One
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I never did care about Europe. I cant think of a single thing I NEED from Europe at all.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:34 | 1755736 Alvaro de Esteban
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Errr, if you drive ANY car, travel by train, or even sail a boat, maybe you need something from Robert Bosch, 

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:33 | 1755832 knukles
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Yeah, well England has Lucas. (cancel each other out)

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:44 | 1755936 SheepDog-One
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Who gives a shit?

Like no one else can possibly make it as well?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:47 | 1755973 knukles
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Betcha Chineee good makie.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:53 | 1755987 SheepDog-One
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China can copy anything, theyve got Blackberries and IPhones knocked of cheep cheep....they sure as hell can make a spark plug or a motorized hand tool.....fuckin shame is WE no longer can!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:54 | 1755747 CrashisOptimistic
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Brent comes from Europe.  It fed you today.

And to see how the game is being played, scope this list of the world's oil prices:

Tapis  $116.63

Brent $106.15

Alaska $107.63

Louisiana Sweet $109.48

WTI $82.98

African Bonny $108.29

Euro Forties $106.53

Asian MINAS $115.46

Arabian Gulf $100.98

Urals $104.49


Anyone want to find the bullshit generated outlier?  This is why you're paying 30+% more for gasoline than last year.  


Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:46 | 1755972 SheepDog-One
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Fuck Brent. I went fishing today and ate those.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:48 | 1755979 Zeilschip
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You're not being efficient, at least that's what Michael Porter says.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:29 | 1755724 X.inf.capt
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maybe, hair...

im curious of whats going to happen when hong kong opens...

my guess is gold is going to take off like a rocket...

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:31 | 1755731 Long-John-Silver
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Gold up $3 and Silver up .20 on open.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:39 | 1755751 X.inf.capt
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someones dumping treasuries, 2 yr and up

10 yr yield up 9 

uh oh

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:08 | 1755795 X.inf.capt
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sorry, my bad...


Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:34 | 1755737 mynhair
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I'm convinced this pig world market reflects the least common denominator, and, given our Fearless Leader, he is the least.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:43 | 1755969 max2205
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Meltup continues to 200 ema

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:30 | 1755726 Long-John-Silver
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All the other people on the rope line are busy trying to cut themselves free as their being dragged toward the cliff edge.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:35 | 1755956 ffart
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I don't know what purpose the DXY is supposed to serve when the majority of imports come from China these days, and not europe.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:34 | 1755719 SheepDog-One
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Futures arent reflecting reality? No WAY!

Besides futures are now completely irrelevant, look at Fridays maniacal market actions, 100 point swings in minutes.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:33 | 1755734 Racer
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US seems to be cheering but Germany/UK futures not that happy!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:20 | 1755927 broke433
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Where do you check futures for those?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:47 | 1755976 broke433
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Ty kind sir, way beteer than finz

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:20 | 1755928 broke433
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Where do you check futures for those?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:33 | 1755735 buzzsaw99
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1492 columbus sailed the ocean blue bitchez.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:43 | 1755757 BORT
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And carried an old world disease to the new. 

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:40 | 1755802 buzzsaw99
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the new world may have gotten the shit end of the biological warfare stick but keep in mind that correlation doesn't always imply causation.


edit: or perhaps you weren't referring to viral and bacterial diseases at all? either way tomorrow is columbus day so suck it bitchez.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:57 | 1755992 John Law Lives
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In case you haven't read it, you might enjoy 'Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies' by Jared Diamond (1997).

Good book!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:24 | 1756036 Gene8696
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+1 super book

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:39 | 1756069 -Michelle-
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They carried New World diseases back, too.  Syphilis.  It wasn't as slow-acting as it is now.  Back then, you got covered head to toe in pustules and you died within months.  Cuts both ways...

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:56 | 1755991 John Law Lives
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In case you haven't read it, you might enjoy 'Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies' by Jared Diamond (1997).

Good book!


Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:17 | 1756022 buzzsaw99
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I sometimes forget that many cultures rue the day "dirty europeans" rocked their world. I wasn't trying to be insensitive. Don't worry indigenous peeps, many populations are now outbreeding the white menace, and then it will be party time.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:34 | 1755739 chump666
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Europe is a zombie.  Watching Asia, if indexes start to go neg....

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:39 | 1755750 Mike2756
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Aussie gapped down and filled the gap, and reversed lower.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:51 | 1755771 chump666
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if the ASX200 overshoots it's sell off (following S&P500 sell off) should drag the AUD down.

The market looks confused and nervous. China (fudgy) data due next few hrs, watching money supply.  also wanna see if the commie stat people freak out the market and reveal a really low CPI.  We hope.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:09 | 1755798 chump666
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...very good link!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 23:10 | 1756303 Mike2756
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I would think we get some type of retest if it's going higher.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:45 | 1755752 Pretorian
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Relax,  people starts shorting their moms .... shit in shit out,,,, This world have gone 50years through same debt issues and never collapsed with exact deficits and gimiks. Greeks in the last 100 years have defaulted 20 times  they had same balance sheet including the debt of US. But now some smart ass'es have discovered the word DEBT and are shiting all over without pumpers. 

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:01 | 1755789 unum mountaineer
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belly snort. and yet smart asses like you have not discovered the word counter party risk...go figure

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:37 | 1755960 SheepDog-One
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Another idiot who says today is no different than 100 years ago....taken a look at M-3 chart lately?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:45 | 1755759 RobotTrader
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Nothing much is going to happen in the next 24 hours.

Just a bunch of robots and HFT's playing ping pong with ES futures, back and forth in an illiquid market, with the usual sudden shanks, boner runs, clothesline drops, etc.

Basically just more "bloodsport" among the action junkies playing around, seeing which guy can "off" the other guy the fastest.

No different than Mayweather and Ortiz talking a bunch of trash on TV in all the interviews before the real fight begins.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:40 | 1755843 knukles
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Robo bum, you jus' talkin' me bad to buyin' mommaz ass sum stocks, Yo!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:54 | 1755878 buzzsaw99
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robo has like five monitors

do not mess with him

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:11 | 1755909 papaswamp
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Only 5?... That's not including the 3 Plasma TVs right?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:14 | 1755914 buzzsaw99
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yeah, he has bloomberg, cnbc, and the religious channel all going at the same time.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:25 | 1755939 Hedgetard55
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yet he can't spell "gnash" properly. Wassup wid dat?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:20 | 1756028 buzzsaw99
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I just got that one. :derrr: Funny.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:47 | 1755764 Boilermaker
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I love how the futures open positive almost every fucking night.

God, I love that shit.  It's so real-like.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:47 | 1755765 YesWeKahn
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Boring monday morning.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:49 | 1755769 Belarus
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The market will soar tomorrow for no other reason that the ALGO's have been instructed to be on high alert. And with the Merkel/Sarkosky plan of a plan to make a plan of a plan that will bail out everything, I expect to see at least 7% this upcoming week. 

While I believe it'll all come crashing down in the not so distant future (how could it be otherwise), the problem near term is with DEXIA being nationalized, and the French/Belgium government taking over, the markets will see this as a decisive sticksave, neverrmind the fact that Belgium will not be able to fund itself through Dexia anymore. And now with all other banks getting the plan of a plan to make a plan of said recap, and the market buying every false headline, watching what happens will be a waste of time in the near term....because the market will surely rally hard within the half hour of close--yet again tomorrow.

I'm hoping the market skyrockets the rest of the year, then, and only then, will I finally be able to get a good short on. It's all too obvious the market should crash right now--this week, which is exactly why it will not happen. The market always does what it's supposed to do, just never when it is supposed to do it.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:56 | 1755778 CrashisOptimistic
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The market should not crash now.  The market is earnings focused.

They will be poor.  They will not be zero.  And so slow, relentless downward slide is the future, of all things.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:37 | 1755837 maxmad
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Just not on your time... It will crash when you are all in... Robo should be your advisor

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:42 | 1755848 knukles
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Robo say fuck yo bad be buyin 'momma sum dem stockz, Yo!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:28 | 1756044 Alea Iactaest
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Slovakia, bitchez...

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 18:55 | 1755777 Pretorian
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Wall Street protest full steam today!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:10 | 1755904 porrannor
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This is at least a week old clip F...ING moron. So, it is fine to lie now, as long as it's for a cause? Makes me barf... 

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:44 | 1756081 PY-129-20
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That's still a powerful image at 5:50 -

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:06 | 1755779 ??
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Spring Cleaning in Egypt

Spring Cleaing in Libya

Cairo clashes leave 23 dead after Coptic church protest


Tawergha refugees fear slaughter in Sirte (ethnic cleansing)


“They arrested about 25 of the men,” Mohammed said. “They were shooting in the air and hitting them with their rifle butts.”

“They took the women, old men and children out in trucks,” he said.


Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:28 | 1755944 Hedgetard55
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Barry high fiving Hillary! on this and both lighting up victory stogies.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:05 | 1755791 mcguire
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SARKOKEL lights a cigar and throws its feet up..   


Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:06 | 1755793 Dailo
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Look for a bear market this week!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:55 | 1755880 topcallingtroll
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Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:22 | 1755931 chump666
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Aloca won't fudge their numbers, meaning they will be crap, so that the YUAN bill is justified and the trade war can rev up. 

Markets should turn neg hard mid week, then rally end week...hoping.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:34 | 1755955 SheepDog-One
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Yes I concur, markets should be up then down, or down then up.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:47 | 1755977 Dailo
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Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:09 | 1755797 Racer
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As it ever was

Bring on Vive la Revolution

Watched "Orphans of the Storm" 1921 film ... we need la Revolution  around the world now!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:45 | 1755852 knukles
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Great film catching similar zeitgeis of OWS, bankers, etc., is the newly relaesed full cut of Metropolis.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:32 | 1755831 Nate H
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Im bearish on all financial assets. But what about this news is particularly bearish? Tyler?  (This was pretty much expected - the nationalization - IMO). A series of such nationalizations is coming and I would guess initially will be bullish as they will be Euro equivalent of "Greenspan put' other than the individual name involved (In this case Dexia). But message to mkt is that govts will step in to stem any systemic risk.. (Until they are the Dexias, but that moment is not now, and certainly not based on this news).


What am I missing?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:34 | 1755835 maxmad
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You're a bull in bear's clothing is what you are missing!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:41 | 1755845 Market Efficien...
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The nationalization wave is a zero-sum game. The funds needed for such a move under the currently rather nervous rating agency regime and historically overstated sovereign ratings lower the sovereigns' credit ratings, which in turn increase the cost of borrowing for the freshly recapitalized banks. Say hello to the downward spiral and that is the positive case assuming Europe at one point manages to articulate not only an nth-degree plan, but enforce action.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:31 | 1756051 Alea Iactaest
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Funds? Funds? We don't need no stinkin' funds!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 06:50 | 1756769 Market Efficien...
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debt financing, I meant to say instead of funds :-)

Zero-sum game was actually not intended to let nationalization appear positive. It is supposed to mean, you cannot rescue excessive debt by excessing debt. Not even believing one is the super smart EU politician, outsmarting markets by leveraging not yet decided upon state-guarantees to appear the x-fold amount of real cash. And it is a zero-sum game AT BEST.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:48 | 1755862 Atomizer
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Let's fuck around with Google algorithm. Wonder how many market indictors we can throw for the loop

China currency bill, due for a vote in the US Senate on Tuesday.

If US Senate currency bill is passed, China threatens to sell all US holdings.



Sun, 10/09/2011 - 19:53 | 1755872 topcallingtroll
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I think it may be safe to try to catch a bounce.

I dont think i am compensated for the risk of usa stocks with a dividend yield less than two percent.

Brazil has higher projected growth rates, a pe of 8 and a dividend yield of almost seven prcent.

Buy ewz.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:00 | 1755886 turbomango
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RON PAUL for President 2012, He'll get us out of these wars! Stop a World War. Bring back our soldiers, they're suffering! He'll stop the central bankers from central plannning for a global neo-feudalism!


Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:00 | 1755891 winter is coming
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I wish all these would just happen... 99.9% of the world is oblivious to it all anyways. Why wait 3-6 months? They may be slightly more informed then. Maybe they want to not only ripping everyone off but for everyone to know they are ripping them off too. Why did I buy BAC and MS december and January puts???? ERRRRRR

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:02 | 1755898 TradingJoe
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Me got faz calls! For the same reason!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:00 | 1755895 TradingJoe
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Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:06 | 1755902 Dailo
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Is NIKKEI closed or what? Can't get an update?! I assume it went up since the futures got a push up..

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:10 | 1755907 pauhana
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or what

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:13 | 1755911 Dailo
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Yes, I can't get the updates? Nikkei Live isn't giving me anything..

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:17 | 1755922 ennuihenry
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Tokyo closed for Health and Sports Day.



Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:22 | 1755932 sabra1
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so, no more radiation?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:21 | 1755930 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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...S&P up 10 handles. The present plan of a plan to plan a plan (in existence til next Sunday's meeting between merkel and sarkozy)is BULLISH.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:32 | 1755945 SheepDog-One
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Who gives a shit, Sunday nite 'futures' read is the most non-telling thing ever and besides S&P now swings 20 up and down in minutes...wash rinse and bend over bitchez, longs and shorts youre all going to get bled dry.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:25 | 1755938 i root for that...
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it looks like another big short squeeze is coming tomorrow.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:29 | 1755948 SheepDog-One
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Right, all 'the shorts' keep lining up to be raped by the FED daily....give me a break no one could be stupid enough to think thats what is actually going on.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:31 | 1755952 RazorForex
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The Euro currency may be in for some more downside action tomorrow. The 1.3400 is now being used as resistance.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:35 | 1755957 Conman
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Seems like support now?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:38 | 1755961 Nate H
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thanks to those smart scientists staying up at night to research the 'resistance phenomenon' at 1.34...

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:45 | 1755971 MiningJunkie
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Why would anyone be short with every CB on the planet in full "Print" mode? New highs for the year coming in commods and gold shares. Molten lead enemas for the shorts.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 20:48 | 1755978 SheepDog-One
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The FED is who is short big time with your money. Enjoy the show.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:02 | 1755996 Nate H
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and they are not in'full print mode' lol. 268 trillion in broad aggregate money supply, qe added unloanable assets to commercial banks balance sheet, and 250 billion actually printed.

Only on ZH (a site a quite like - but for the news, not the comment-as-wisdom) is the meme 'full print mode' accepted dogma

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:23 | 1756032 chump666
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The CB's have been printing like madmen since Jan and our markets collapsed in Aug and they are still printing. So,  if the print jobs can't keep markets in a super bid bull run, then the printing might start to be ineffective.  You can see this now, with just rhetoric supporting markets.

How long can that last?  Till the market panics locks in profits and sells.  That could happen any moment, half a week of meltups and then a sell on Friday...that is bearish.  If Aloca comes in weak and it should.  Then you got ride down on this

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:04 | 1756002 alien-IQ
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DOW futures up now up a modest 129 points...WTF???? so I guess Dexia nationalization is good news?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:17 | 1756021 chump666
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Everything is looking overbought.  

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:25 | 1756038 mynhair
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EUR bankrupt is bullish.  Go S&P!

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:28 | 1756045 RobotTrader
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Well, at least gold is being dragged up kicking and screaming with the ES ramp job.

Crude is up, Australia up, might be "Risk On" next week where the Wildebeest Herd piles right back into the same items they dumped en masse last week.

Meanwhile FT is running more "gloom and doom" articles.



Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:33 | 1756054 Conman
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Wait, what exactly was " dumped en masse last week"?

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 21:41 | 1756073 buzzsaw99
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Just buying ahead of earnings imo.

Sun, 10/09/2011 - 23:20 | 1756331 vincent
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I just heard Batman saved Gotham from doom, so Ben and co. can stand down.


Sun, 10/09/2011 - 23:35 | 1756362 Saxxon
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Boys, they will just nationalize the banks one by one.  They will fuck the pensioners, working poor, the unborn, everyone.  Until they are dragged from their limos/offices and shot in the street for selling their own country, their own world.

Until it gets to that point, nothing changes.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 07:34 | 1756832 handlingserpents
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[EURUSD]@1.3681, (S=>10.10-11.10,L=>12.10-14.10)



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