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Market Snapshot: Reaction To Trichet - We Are Not Impressed

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Out of the gate, credit and equity markets seemed happy that Trichet was offering CBPP2 and a Euro-TLGP II program in Oct/Dec but that quickly subsided (what no rate cut?) as rather surprisingly the market realized for itself - with little cajoling from us - that while short-term roll risk was reduced, capital still remains a 'problem' as the seemingly known (haircuts/exposures) unknowns and we assume unknown unknowns (contagion impact) remain tangible and this does nothing solve the underlying problem of insolvency. We were pleasantly taken aback by this reaction (and not in a Schadenfreude manner) but more simply that the market is 'getting it' - kicking the can by extending more and more credit (as Peter Tchir alluded to earlier) simply has its limits - and perhaps we are there.

Stocks and spreads are well below their starting point (of Trichet's speech) and have dropped notably from the mid-speech euphoria. FX market saw EUR weakness pretty much straightaway but it was AUD that weakened the most (as carry was unwound). EURUSD is about 0.33% weaker so far but JPY remains unch...

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Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:22 | 1745050 buzzsaw99
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why is he giving a speech about the future when he is leaving? the next guy will do whatever the maggots want him to do.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:26 | 1745061 wombats
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GS rules the world.  I read that on ZH.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:36 | 1745098 Popo
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..And the only way to create an up-day on the market is to trash your currency.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:52 | 1745136 SheepDog-One
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I heard 'GS rules the world' from Allesio on a BBC interview that shocked, SHOCKED, everyone apparently.

The media called him in to find out just who this 'madman' Allesio was, and what book he was pushing with such an outrageous statement, obviously only intended to draw attention to himself.

GS rules the world? Well that cant be.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:29 | 1745074 Spitzer
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Its not that simple.

The Germans rule the Euro, they don't like to print.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:44 | 1745150 boom goes the d...
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Ich Will Anarchy bitchez!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4K6ZxDwi34

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:49 | 1745178 buzzsaw99
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watch how fast they print if douche or comerz get into trouble.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:00 | 1745256 riley martini
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 Look how well it worked inthe USA as angry protestors gather in the streets of every major city. Record poverty , unemployment , corruption , wealth transefer to the fascist.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:35 | 1745093 Schmuck Raker
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why is he giving a speech about the future when there isn't one?

-fixed

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:45 | 1745157 buzzsaw99
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thanks

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:27 | 1745066 Johnny Lawrence
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OT: Hopefully this will make a ZH headline:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/05/cain-not-rich-no-job-bla...

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal posted Wednesday, the up-and-coming GOP 2012 contender and former CEO of Godfather's Pizza summed up his bewilderment about recent demonstrations on Wall Street.

"Don't blame Wall Street," Cain said. "Don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself."

Allowing the banks had a "big part" in the 2008 economic crisis, the candidate, who's known for his bombast and has been rising in national polls pointed out, "We're in 2011, okay?"

"When I was growing up I was blessed to have had parents. That didn't teach me to be jealous of anybody and didn't teach me to be jealous of somebody," Cain explained.

"It is not a person's fault because they succeeded. It is a person's fault if they failed. And so this is why I don't understand these demonstrations and what is it that they're looking for."

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:29 | 1745069 HelluvaEngineer
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Yeah, he's a shill for the Fed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

He is the former chairman and CEO of Godfather's Pizza and a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:41 | 1745121 pods
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Oh that is going to go over well.  

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:43 | 1745144 wang (not verified)
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Cain will end up as veep - I thought his calling the protesters Anti American to be a very informed comment (informed by his bankster past and present)

 

Herman Cain, Former Kansas City Fed Bank chair

http://www.kc.frb.org/aboutus/leadership/kansascity-alumni-directors.cfm

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:44 | 1745145 SheepDog-One
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FED buttboy.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:11 | 1745320 riley martini
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 The Wall Strret  journal is a fascist rag for fascist propaganda . Their finest propaganda is what a great deal TARP and the Wall Street bailouts were for America . The Wall Street Journal thinks it was great idea to transfer $ trillion to Wall Street sums up the state of corporate journalims in America.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:30 | 1745076 Finnykins
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Heard that we are at the limit too many times. But happy if it is coming. Never suprised by how long they can manage this circus of kicking the can.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:31 | 1745083 Sambo
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DAX just turned red.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:36 | 1745097 Peter Pan
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Can someone please explain something to me?

The 16 signatories to the EFSF plus the ECB have about 10,856 tonnes of gold according to Wikipedia. At a 1234 Euro price per oz this translates to 430 billion euro.

Why isn't this capital utilised to re-capitalise those insolvent banks at no interest cost given that the gold is just sitting there.

By utilised I do not mean selling it, but rather issuing paper backed by this gold to each bank, preferably as redeemable shares.

I would love to hear why the gold cannot be used (and possibly substantially revalued) so as to plug a few other holes as well.

Can someone tell me where my logic is wrong? (Assuming the gold does exist) 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:46 | 1745159 pods
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Your logic is correct.

But their power resides in their ability to issue debt.  Debt is capital to them.  

Debt is control.

And they do NOT want to give up any control.

pods

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:00 | 1745251 milanitaly
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Already sold!

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:13 | 1745321 Motley Fool
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Now, now. Hands off the endgame. That's for later.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:36 | 1745101 Phillycheesesteak
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I don't understand everything that is said on here, but this site is fantastic. Just fucking fantastic.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:37 | 1745103 Zonker
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Up we go - Market loves it and the new V bottom!

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:38 | 1745109 Fips_OnTheSpot
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V-bottom of the hour..

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:38 | 1745106 Dapper Dan
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There are maggots on my squid! 

Now take those away and bring us those melted cheese sandwich appetizers you talked me out of!

 

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:46 | 1745166 SheepDog-One
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Theyre not impressed by Trichet? Well what do they expect he can deliver them? What did the banks want to hear, that he will created $100 trillion out of think air for them? Just pure idiocy.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:48 | 1745175 jdelano
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I'm genuinely suprised how little reaction there has been to the delaying of the next tranche of Greek aid. Has it occured to anyone else that this is actually a huge tell as to what the plan is?  It seems incredibly obvious to me that they are just trying to stall until dollar liquidity is in place.  

When the pool is cold, what do you do?  You dip a toe in to guage how bad it is.  Then you slowly lower in the whole foot.  Then the toe of the other foot.  You take a step or two maybe, cringing as the cold creeps up past your knees.  Then you stand there a while thinking, "eh, this is gonna suck." Then eventually you get self-consious about standing there like an idiot and say fuck it, time to take the plunge.  

I think we're getting very close to plunge time.  

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 09:57 | 1745230 milanitaly
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He wanted to say: the financial world is totally fucked

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:04 | 1745282 TradingJoe
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how about them 3:30 - 3:45 ramp up rumors, eh?!?!

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:09 | 1745308 Belarus
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and perhaps we are there.

A bit pre-mature....as the markets begin their climb. Expect shorts to panic buy into the close with Algo's doing the routing.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:14 | 1745336 SheepDog-One
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Right, there always seems to be endless shorts to squeeze for daily market pumps...I dont believe it.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:17 | 1745355 riley martini
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Watch for 10:00 POMO pump and the PPT manipulation nothing gives you confidence like a corrupt controled maket, well not market exchange is probably better.

Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:20 | 1745375 jdelano
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they've done it two days in a row and everyone expects it now.  Wouldn't be suprised to see a reverse fucking today--crash into the close. 

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