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Mass Shooting Incidents In The Last Two Decades

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At least superficially, they appear to be coming more and more often.

From Reuters:

March 13, 1996 - BRITAIN - Gunman Thomas Hamilton burst into a primary school in the Scottish town of Dunblane and shot dead 16 children and their teacher before killing himself.

April 28, 1996 - AUSTRALIA - Martin Bryant unleashed modern Australia's worst mass murder when he shot dead 35 people at the Port Arthur tourist site in the southern state of Tasmania.

April 1999 - UNITED STATES - Two heavily-armed teenagers went on a rampage at Columbine High School in Littleton, Denver, shooting 13 students and staff before taking their own lives.

July 1999 - UNITED STATES - A gunman killed nine people at two brokerages in Atlanta, after apparently killing his wife and two children. He committed suicide five hours later.

June 2001 - NEPAL - Eight members of the Nepalese Royal family were killed in a palace massacre by Crown Prince Dipendra who later turned a gun on himself and died few days later. His youngest brother also died later raising the death toll to 10.

April 26, 2002 - GERMANY - In Erfurt, eastern Germany, 19-year-old Robert Steinhauser opened fire after saying he was not going to take a math test. He killed 12 teachers, a secretary, two pupils and a policeman at the Gutenberg Gymnasium, before killing himself.

Oct. 2002 - UNITED STATES - John Muhammad and Lee Malvo killed 10 people in sniper-style shooting deaths that terrorized the Washington, D.C., area.

April 16, 2007 - USA - Virginia Tech, a university in Blacksburg, Virginia, became the site of the deadliest rampage in U.S. history when a gunman killed 32 people and himself.

Nov. 7, 2007 - FINLAND - Pekka-Eric Auvinen killed six fellow students, the school nurse, the principal and himself with a handgun at the Jokela High School near Helsinki.

Sept. 23, 2008 - FINLAND - Student Matti Saari opened fire in a vocational school in Kauhajoki in northwest Finland, killing nine other students and one male staff member before killing himself.

March 11, 2009 - GERMANY - A 17-year-old gunman dressed in combat gear killed nine students and three teachers at a school near Stuttgart. He also killed one other person at a nearby clinic. He was later killed in a shoot-out with police. Two additional passers-by were killed and two policemen seriously injured, bringing the death toll to 16 including the gunman.

June 2, 2010 - BRITAIN - Gunman Derrick Bird opened fire on people in towns across the rural county of Cumbria. Twelve people were killed and 11 injured. Bird also killed himself.

April 9, 2011 - NETHERLANDS - Tristan van der Vlis opened fire in the Ridderhof mall in Alphen aan den Rijn, south of Amsterdam, killing six before turning the gun on himself.

July 22, 2011 - NORWAY - Police seize a gunman who killed 69 people at a youth summer camp of Norway's ruling political party, on the small, holiday island of Utoeya. Anders Behring Breivik is later charged with the killings, as well as with an earlier bombing in Oslo which killed eight people. The trial ended last month with Breivik saying that his bombing and shooting rampage was necessary to defend the country - prompting a walk-out by relatives of his victims.

Dec. 13, 2011 - BELGIUM - Gunman Nordine Armani killed three people, including a 17-month-old toddler, wounding 121 in a central square in the eastern city of Liege, before shooting himself. The next day Belgian investigators found the body of a woman in warehouse used by the gunman raising the death toll, including the killer, to five.

July 20, 2012 - UNITED STATES - A masked gunman killed 14 people and wounded 50 others when he opened fire on moviegoers at a showing of new Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" in the city of Denver.

 

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Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:38 | 2635358 francis_sawyer
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The MK Ultra program is alive & well... These are 'ritual' sacrifices... (33 days after Rodney King death ~ in pool)

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:29 | 2635359 Svendblaaskaeg
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Al Bore: thats the effect of man-made global bloody warming

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:30 | 2635362 Sanksion
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France 2012: Merah, 7 deaths.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:31 | 2635366 magpie
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In general these shootings are the handiwork of lone psychopaths - in case they are not, the apparent, artificial 'randomness' is there to hit specific people in the crowd.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:09 | 2635534 LULZBank
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Lone gunman and "sruicide" bombers basically implies, there is no need to investigate as there are no leads or other people involved. i.e. Look at the puppet not the puppet master.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:12 | 2635547 bank guy in Brussels
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Lone Gunman Theory ...

Often these 'lone psychopaths' are just too convenient.

The other year US Federal Judge John Roll was shot dead a short time after making a major ruling against Obama and the US government. The US media barely covered his murder and this possible reason for it, instead focusing on the wounded congresswoman at the site.

Of course there was a convenient 'lone psychopathic gunman' quickly rolled up into the US system ... where drugs can control what the person ever says.

US Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts, might have been thinking of his colleague, the dead Judge Roll, when Roberts issued his twisted weird ruling in favour of Obamacare.

They no doubt can find some 'lone gunmen' for any other non-co-operative US judges as well - even the ones on the Supreme Court. Deluxe dead supreme court judge funeral included in the package.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:33 | 2635374 Cult of Criminality
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Spiders kill you in India,in gangs at that !

If people want to kill people they will  it, does not matter what weapon of choice.Knives,sticks,bats,thumbs,depleted uranium ,plutonium,War,electromagnetic ,cyber,tanks,governments,bankers.

Food. See the weapon does not matter, it is the psychopaths using them.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:35 | 2635388 Doomer
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None of these occured in southern Europe.  For some reason, Anglo-Saxons, Germans and Scandanavians seem to have cornered the market on mass shootings.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:41 | 2635413 sessinpo
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I beg to differ. There have been mass shootings in the Balkans but the shootings have been classified as war or terrorism related.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:42 | 2635393 GlomarHabu
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A few things we need to know:

  • what color was the perp?
  • what party affiliation was he?
  • is it true he had Obamas book in his coat?
  • was he a postal worker or community organizer ( seems if you can get a bunch of people to huddle down,you've organized)
  • did he have shovel ready job or has he given the shovel brigade some work?
  • did he enjoy the movie?
  • he didn't do this alone. he took a gun (made by someone else, and a highway, had clothes etc. Hey, he stood on the shoulders of taxpayers..OMG we're the guilty ones ..I'm so ashamed.

This is just a start and we must get much more granular in the investigation. My first impression is that he disliked the sticky floors in theaters.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:01 | 2635839 Pants McPants
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I chuckled, because I like my humor dark.

Overall a clever response.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:42 | 2636338 CoolBeans
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Who sold him the tear gas? Who made it possible for the shooter to enter via an emergency exit?   Enjoyed the dark humor as well. 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:38 | 2635398 sessinpo
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Let's wait until Netanyahu tells the world the Iranians did it.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:39 | 2635405 MillionDollarBoner_
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Try Googling "anomie"

Take away the structure from a person's life and watch out for the consequences.

How many decent citizens have had their lives shredded by the psycho-sociopaths who pretend to represent us?

Much more like this coming down the pike... 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:42 | 2635411 Widowmaker
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When crime pays, murder goes up.

No justice for the lawless, none for the rest either.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:42 | 2635417 dfwpike
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Left off this list is the Fort Hood massacre in 2009 that killed 13.  The gunman was a muslim extremist.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:46 | 2635433 Tinky
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Yes, and much to the consternation of TPTB, the vast majority aren't.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:26 | 2635638 Bob
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They're a much more clever bunch.  Seems they've been busy taking over the US Government. 

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/13/bachmann%E2%80%99s_muslim_witch_hunt/

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:58 | 2635492 buzzsaw99
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Also left off that list was the nut who shot that congresswoman in tucson. killed 6 wounded many more.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:42 | 2635419 forrestdweller
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this is all very tragic.

some wittnesses thought it was part of the movie.

this is what makes me really sad. shooting people, blowing things up, has all become part of our entertainment world.

we know everybody owns guns, we know disturbed people can use them anytime. we see shootings and killing on tv for our own entertainment on a daily basis. it has become normal.

"That was a real kick and good for laughs and lashings of the old ultraviolent" (clockwork orange).

 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:30 | 2635663 Bob
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The shift to nihilistic commoditization of human needs and humanity itself in the mega-corporate consumer era could have something to do with it. 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:53 | 2635804 forrestdweller
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hear hear!

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:59 | 2635823 AnAnonymous
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You mean that US citizenism could be a driving force to generate these situations?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:23 | 2635963 forrestdweller
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i mean that people have always been terrified and at the same time been attracted to violence.

in the last decades violence has become more and more a part of our popular culture, and we enjoy violent movies every day, we look at the wars all over the world on tv, and we are somehow attracted to it.

in the US one is allowed to own guns, with the result to everybody has one or more guns. we are attracted to these weapons.

but when the real violence comes close and our friends or relatives or neighbours die, we suddenly see the other side of violence and we feel terrified again and realize that violence is not something very attractive, because it destroys. but somehow... we are still attracted to it.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:33 | 2636009 pods
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"Women who shop to win shop at Kohl's."

Shit you not, that is on their radio commercials.

pods

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:43 | 2635420 Joe Mama 3
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Just another weekend in Caracas or Mali.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:43 | 2635422 zuuma
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Not to nitpick, but...

 

Oct. 2002 - UNITED STATES - John Muhammad and Lee Malvo killed 10 people in sniper-style shooting deaths that terrorized the Washington, D.C., area.

 

Is a "serial Killing" episode, vs. "Mass Murder".

Same outcome, different definition.

Don't even need a gun to be a psycho mass killer:

Biggest mass murder in USA was Happyland bar, March 25, 1990. 87 people locked in the club & burned to death in a fire started by a jar of gasoline. Jealous boyfriend, IIRC.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:50 | 2635443 AnAnonymous
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Not to nitpick, but going this way, one could list all the serial killing...

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:19 | 2636228 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Chinese citizenism citizens only nitpick when preparing twice-cooked nits in spicy orange sauce.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:45 | 2635427 CrimsonAvenger
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I'm just exhausted by the constant stream of bad news. Can't somebody pull a damn puppy out of a well or something?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:03 | 2635504 nevadan
Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:04 | 2635511 i-dog
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This is HOW they beat you into submission. You'll be begging for them to offer their "solution" real soon now and, like the Obomber "solution" 4 years ago, you're not going to like the actual outcome....

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:41 | 2635735 fuu
Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:21 | 2636239 TheFourthStooge-ing
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CrimsonAvenger said:

I'm just exhausted by the constant stream of bad news. Can't somebody pull a damn puppy out of a well or something?

That will resolve nothing. AnAnonymous would take the puppy and prepare it for his cooking marmit.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:35 | 2636309 CoolBeans
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Hey - how about that awesome bus driver who caught the kid who fell three stories?  Just in the news this week.

Also, we must also be mindful of all of the random acts of kindness that occur daily.  It's out there.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:56 | 2636666 HardAssets
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on all the bad news . . . I agree

Is it that events are speeding up as they move toward a break down

or is the media pace designed to overwhelm people

or both ?   Who knows

 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:50 | 2635437 kill switch
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This smells like a steered operation, dupes patsy’s, now we have justification for TSA surrounding all malls, supermarkets, bus stations, train stations, highway stops...if your young and have the resources it's time to get out of Dodge..Good point above, UN Gun control law pushing the U.S...The collapse of the U.S. empire is underway. Not just beacuse of this shooting , it's everywhere you look, last year of ZH stories should be enough.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:44 | 2635751 MFL8240
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http://www.infowars.com/dark-knight-shooting-to-be-exploited-for-politic...  Here watch what this trash plan to do with this.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 13:01 | 2636695 HardAssets
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I don't think it matters. Those who believe in the 2nd Amendment won't change their minds at this event. Those new to the game and buying a firearm recently only have another reason to fear being defenseless.

The antis will try to use this, but in the end it comes down to if the people go along or not, and they know it.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:05 | 2636170 DanDaley
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High-fives all around for Obama, Holder, Clinton and all the other 2nd-Amendment haters. Like manna from heaven.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:50 | 2635442 marco1324
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Terrible tragedy. You start the night looking forward to a movie and the next minute you're dead. Some people are so fucked up in the head. My thoughts go out to the families.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:51 | 2635446 The Duck Stops Here
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What they need to do is ban all legal avenues to obtain guns to stop the problem. They did this with drugs and look how well it worked! 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:07 | 2635523 i-dog
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That's a great idea. Leaving guns only in the hands of the government and the mafia - but I repeat myself - will surely ensure that the citizens are safe from predation of any type!

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:51 | 2635449 Hobbleknee
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The list is missing all the mass shootings done by governments.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:54 | 2635464 indio007
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I don't think that list will fit on the internet.

 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:53 | 2635458 Whoa Dammit
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I just do not understand random acts of violence, nor do I want to. 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:03 | 2635508 LULZBank
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I dont think you are getting the message. Handover your weaons and keys to your door and spread your legs...

For your own security ofcourse.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:54 | 2635462 Super B
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If only there had been an off duty cop in that theater..............

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:59 | 2635495 Tuco Benedicto ...
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98% that shooter was on psychotropic drugs, but the "establishment" media won't mention that.  78% that shooter was government patsy.

Tuco

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:10 | 2635539 PatientZero
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If only someone were carrying concealed...

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:18 | 2635576 Yes_Questions
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We will never find out, but its likely more than one person there to watch the movie was carrying.

Its Colorado.  

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:07 | 2635869 RobD
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From early reports(don't trust them, usually best to follow 48 hour rule) the POS had a long gun and two pistols(one pistol may have been left in his car) and a bullet proof vest and some kind of helmet(mall ninja style) so anyone in the audience with the normal concealed weapon would have been at a huge disadvantage. Though if I was there with my family, I would have returned fire as I move away from my loved ones to draw fire and hopefully at least slow the guy down and allow for some people to escape(of coarse no one knows what they would actually do in this kind of situation). I would hope that I would at least not piss myself.

There was a somewhat similar shooting in Phoenix, outside a courthouse, I believe, where a bystander confronted a AK carrying POS who had already killed his estranged wife and was about to kill his son. The bystander opened fire with a 1911 and knocked the POS down but was then killed as he did not know the guy had a vest on under his jacket. Lesson learned from that is always keep shooting until the POS is dead.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:53 | 2636108 Almost Solvent
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Take head and leg shots if possible

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:05 | 2636168 Jam Akin
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Switch that order mon.  Legs first, then head.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:06 | 2636432 RobD
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The training I received was double tap to the body, then one to the head and if you miss the head(hard to hit if the guy is moving) and the dude is still standing go for the pelvis area. Bust the pelvis and the body goes down. Oh and don't use anything smaller then .40 as you will just piss them off lol.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:58 | 2635483 Apocalicious
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It could be "psychopaths", or it could be a pattern of already disturbed people who simply realize freedom to choose which channel to watch and what brand of clothes to wear ? actual freedom. Increasingly outraged at a feudalistic system (granted, one which they themselves helped create in search of a mythical socialistic utopia) which makes self-determination harder and harder, people with poor coping skills and poor social interaction abilities turn the combination of anger and the feeling of helplessness towards an impersonalized “society,” which they blame for all their ills. I’m not condoning the behavior – clearly, these people lack the ability to connect the dots. The very people they target are by and large their fellow victims/neo-serfs. I would heartily encourage rapid executions for such perpetrators. I’m merely arguing it is not binary, either A) psychos or B) society's fault – it is a complex behavioral interaction of the two. It is quite telling which countries this occurs in the most - look at the list. One of the TDs should take the time to establish both a longitudinal and cross-sectional link between frequency of these attacks and increasingly central planning (of everything) in the countries in which they occur.

 

~ Death is the only thing we all have coming to us. ~

 

 

 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:59 | 2635486 i-dog
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March 13, 1996 - BRITAIN - Gunman Thomas Hamilton burst into a primary school in the Scottish town of Dunblane and shot dead 16 children and their teacher before killing himself.

Within weeks afterwards, a media campaign ensures that the UK is meekly disarmed.

April 28, 1996 - AUSTRALIA - Martin Bryant unleashed modern Australia's worst mass murder when he shot dead 35 people at the Port Arthur tourist site in the southern state of Tasmania.

Within weeks afterwards, a media campaign ensures that Australia is meekly disarmed. The official story is of a "lone gunman" buzzed out on drugs; the actual attack was carried out by multiple expert shooters (same MO aa the Breivik incident).

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 08:59 | 2635496 Benjamin Glutton
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Where is our grim tally of Bankster assisted murder/suicides????

 

should be higher than 9/11 at this point.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:13 | 2636462 Apocalicious
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Silly boy. Bankers don't commit suicide. Bankers attempt suicide. And then after thoroughly convincing the powers that be (i.e. richer, more powerful bankers, or their agents), they do some cursory penance and then exit stage left, careful not to draw too much attention and cognizant of their role as necessary scapegoat to perpetuate the system. Notice they never protest too much, or else they might really be suicided...

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:00 | 2635498 ptolemy_newit
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Please, all crazy killers focus on the follow http://www.afajof.org  we can only dream of a blast of silver in the right direction

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:01 | 2635499 GlobalMapper
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The story claims the guy had tear gas, a bullet proof vest, and riot gear as well as his weapons.  Sounds like a cop to me though there was no mention of it.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:25 | 2635635 superflyguy
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Sounds like it but there are two problems, you can legally buy all of that stuff and witnesses have no clue what they're talking about. That girl Jennifer said he wore a kevlar vest yet she couldn't identify the type of gun he had... He could have had a simple chest rig and she wouldn't know the difference. Media is just inflating things up, as usual.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:10 | 2635902 RobD
Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:02 | 2635500 deerhunter
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when a person is killed by a drunk driver do we ban cars.  When death from a lifetime of smoking occurs do we ban tobacco products?  Someone with a samurai sword or machete with skills could have killed as many or more and many would have been dead before the rest of the crowd knew what was going on.  I was picked on because I had 4 sisters, 2 younger, 2 older and all good looking.  Guess who got his ass kicked whenever they said no to requests for dates????   I had guns at home and did not take them to school,  I learned to fight.  Don't blame the guns.  This guy had a big twist and needs to be put down the day after he is found guilty.  Not after 20 years of appeals.  True tragedy.  Thoughts and prayers for the families. 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:04 | 2635510 monopoly
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Starting to get uglier now. So sad.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:07 | 2635524 lindaamick
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As more and more citizens become alienated from society due to not having a productive place (ie - a job or a productive/contributory endeavor) to channel their energies,  they will gradually lose their minds and resort to violent outbreaks. 

A more egalitarian society produces less nutcases.

Time to invest in Gate/Fence companies as the elite class better reinforce themselves from a growing number of alienated underclass members.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:08 | 2635527 PatientZero
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Cue the gun-hater knee-jerk reactionary MSM articles in 3...2...

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:12 | 2635552 PatientZero
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But Anders Breivik is a hero.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:13 | 2635557 DanDaley
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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.  -Hunter S. Thompson

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:18 | 2635577 Tom Green Swedish
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You forgot another american one.  The Northern Illinois Univestiry shooting on February 14, 2008.  6 Deaths 21 injured.  This one is particularly strange when you look at the evidence in the case. 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:19 | 2635585 mirac
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Missed a mass shooting in Montreal Canada at McGill University

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 18:51 | 2637940 Arkadaba
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Actually it was the Ecole Polytechnique (I was living in Mtl at the time). A particularly odious twist to this mass shooting was that the shooter specifically targeted women engineering students. Sick.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:20 | 2635591 e-recep
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so this happens solely in "western" countries then?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:17 | 2635937 ParkAveFlasher
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African village-by-village mass limb hacking is entirely different </sarc>

And when 50 Chinese schoolchildren pile chairs on the fat kid, that's different too.

How about the invasion of Iraq?  I suppose if it's murder-for-taxes, it's OK. 

What about that hotel invasion in India?  Let me guess, lone yahoos on roids and meth upset about the Kashmir.  Different classification.

I saw a video on Nat Geo of a platoon of water buffalos ambush a pride of resting, lazy lions and stomp out 1 in 3 cubs.  The genius!

Chimps engage in cannibalism within their own groups.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:58 | 2636137 DanDaley
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The term running amok comes from Malaysia where it referred to a killing spree, historically with a knife or machete.  Not a western country, I don't believe.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:31 | 2635607 LoneStarHog
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WATCH THIS:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-oNMHNrS-8&feature=fvwrel -- She lost her parents in the Luby's Massacre in Killeen, Texas.

Listen carefully as she tells the Congressional Panel WHY we have the 2nd Amendment.  She DOES NOT mince words!!!!!

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:09 | 2636183 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, I saw this a while back.  Terrific!!!!!!!

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:22 | 2635609 Shizzmoney
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I really hope thye try to confiscate guns/ban the sales.

A) if they do, they'll surely name a date.  Once they do, buy the shit out of Smith & Wesson stock (it's up 115% Y2D).

B) It will also mean more of incidents like this happen.

People are stressed, manically depressed.  Instead of dealing with issues via conseling, psychologists today just throw pills at the issue. 

 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:24 | 2635625 q99x2
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Psychopath Rumsfeld takes control of United States. Professes the elected President was believed to be to stupid, Invades Iraq Kills 1,000,000 and contaminates land mass with depleted Uranium for next 1000 years.

Psychopath imposter (no one knows his real name) and humanoid named "Hillary" United States invades Lybia blows faces off children and kills 10s of thousands claiming it was necessary to keep the peace.

Psychopath (same imposter) claims people will believe he is a man of peace if he blows poor people to bits with remote controlled devices because he was once awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:25 | 2635630 buchesky
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So many of these incidents happened in schools.  Yet the gun laws here mostly prevent law-abiding citizens from carrying guns at schools, so the criminals who committed these crimes had an open season on defenseless kids and teachers.  It's not only that the staff are prevented from being armed, but even parents picking up their kids or coming within 500 feet of a school are prevented from being armed.  If these laws were relaxed, we would have a much better chance of reacting quickly to and preventing these tragedies instead of waiting for the police to come "protect" us.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:35 | 2635697 Chump
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I'd like to know if the theater has a "No Weapons" sign on the front door.  I regularly tell businesses that I'll shop elsewhere when I see that sign, and I tell them exactly why.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:31 | 2635673 tsuki
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No background checks, buy a gun every half hour, have access to clips larger than police use, but for Gawd's sake, control the real problem with American society, outlaw the supersized soda.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:06 | 2636173 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, only the government should be armed!  It worked out well for the innocent in Germany, Cambodia, China and Russia a couple of times!  260,000,000 killed by "democide" in last century.  Geez!

Tuco

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:44 | 2635750 Downtoolong
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they appear to be coming more and more often

I always think the same thing now whenever this shit happens, and I don't think it's superficial. This is one type of event where I think it's tough to argue that - it was always there before but the media just wasn't reporting it.

 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:20 | 2635954 Monedas
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One incident in America is BALANCE for the daily blood sport in the rest of the world ?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 09:47 | 2635769 SmoothCoolSmoke
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Best case I ever heard against hand-guns and or assault rifles for self-defense:  During the First Gulf War General Norman Schwartskopf (sp?) explained what he used for self-defense in his personal quarters: a loaded Browning shotgun leaning against the wall next to his bed.  Here was a man who knew that many people wanted to kill him. He could have had any weapon he wanted to protect himself.  BUt, he chose neither a hand gun or an assault weapon.

Good enough for me.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:16 | 2635932 buchesky
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I hate to break it to you, but the 2nd amendment was not intended for home defense against burglars.  It was intended for defense against an oppressive government.  Hence the right to own an assault rifle shall not be infringed...except when it is.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:38 | 2636319 SmoothCoolSmoke
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So the oppressive govt  troops have assault type weapons, which you feel citizens need equal firepower to counter.  So the handgun?  Pretty much useless against the jack-boots, no?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:35 | 2636570 blunderdog
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There were several different "intentions" involved with the second amendment.  I recommend reading some history about the Constitutional Convention. 

The Founding Fathers as a group were not unanimous on ANY opinion.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:37 | 2636579 Rhodin
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Green arrow.....But of course the right is always infringed. 

Requiring licenses is an infringement. 

 But the largest infringement is hardly noticed today.  The Second Amendment refers to the right to keep and bear ARMS.  Arms are the weapons and tools needed to wage war effectively.  For the most part..... those tools and weapons are entirely prohibited to the citizenry.   Without even getting into heavy offensive weapons, tell me where i can legally buy (for example) land mines, claymores, M25 / M79 grenade launchers, air defence missles, and auto response mortars?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:31 | 2635935 Monedas
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Faster and Furiouser !  CNN hasn't mentioned the race of James Holmes in the 30 minutes I've been making coffee and turning on my computer .... gotta be a "Nigger" has crossed my mind .... although, they don't normally have the technical and planning skills to pull off mass murders !      Obama sees an opportunity to rescue his campaign and take the heat off Eric Holder !       Mostly scummy liberals go to these "group think midnight basketball" entertainment events !  Soooo, what exactly is the problem, here ?           Monedas       1929            Comedy Jihad Aurora Bloodealis 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:28 | 2635988 Spastica Rex
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I was just thinking: If only the psycopathic killer had also been an abortion doctor who was distraught over being denied a gay marriage, then we could have a real thoughtful conversation. 

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:30 | 2635996 Monedas
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A mass murder is a terrible thing to waste .... Obama heads back to Washington for news conference !

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 10:49 | 2636075 Monedas
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Once again the $39.95 Kalishnikov is preferred over the $3,000.00 (DOD lastest new improved model that still doesn't correct design flaws any teen ager can see) Colt AR15 by two out of three mass murderers and terrorists !  Kalishnikov should get the American Enterprise Achievement Award for excellence in business !

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:03 | 2636159 Greyzone
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I am amused at how many of these mass shootings occur in countries that already have draconian gun control laws. I wonder what part of "criminal" does not equate to "law breaker" in the minds of idiot politicians? And Great Britain is especially amusing. It's a freaking island! If anyone should be able to institute total gun control (and Britain has!) then it should be Britain, yet they still have mass shootings there?

Finally, the major media don't like to report stories such as this one where an elderly man with a concealed carry permit and a pistol stops two thugs who entered an internet cafe, started destroying property and threatening patrons with a gun and baseball bat. But stories like this are actually more common than the sensationalistic clap trap such as the Batman movie shooting.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:08 | 2636182 MrPalladium
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The pattern looks very much like the onset of psychosis from either schizophrenia or sever bipolar disorder. Even under the strictest gun control, guns can be purchased on the black market. Early intervention and a relaxation of the standard under which mental health deputies can take custody is what is needed.

While the law says that it is illegal to sell a gun to someone who has been committed to a mental institution, the FBI database for background checks does not collect data on committments to a mental hospital. As a life member of the NRA, I strongly support gathering this data, and amending HIPPA if necessary to assemble it. I cannot help suspecting that the omission of this data is deliberate as the mentally ill are the ones who commit the random mass killings that frighten the population into supporting gun control.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 13:12 | 2636750 Rhodin
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Your suggestion might do some good, but there are upwards of 40 million people in USA on prescription psycotropic drugs.  Continued use or withdrawal from many of these drugs is known to induce psychosis involving violent and/or suicidal tendancies.  Very few of these folks have ever been committed to an institution, so most would not be deterred by your proposal.

PS. The NRA does NOT want to finally solve the USA gun rights problem.  Once solved it would be very tough to raise funds! (I am also a life+ NRA member and was, for many years, very active in the firearm civil rights movement).

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:19 | 2636230 Lord Koos
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What, no Haditha, no Faluja?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:45 | 2636340 rwe2late
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 Wedding party massacres, drone assassinations, religious/racist self-aggrandizement and contempt for others, collateral damage indifference, thousands of annual murders nation-wide, cruelties to other species, a steady diet of serial killers and mass killings in movies, tv, and videogames...

all symptomatic of societal malaise, alienation from others and from nature, systematic oppression, and system-driven materialism?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 11:56 | 2636391 alangreedspank
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As gun control sounds more and more reasonable to the average joe and gun control laws get enacted, you see an increase in these incidents. To say the least, gun control works wonders right?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:21 | 2636507 TheAlchemist
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If you live in US, and don't reside in a Commie state such as California, go get your concealed carry license, spend some time at the range practicing to become proficient with your weapon, and then have the intestinal fortitude to put it into action should the need arise.

I get that such action would have been difficult against a guy with body armor and gas grenades, but at least someone could have taken a stand instead of simply being gunned down by a spineless fuck with no regard for human lives.

It's not about the guns folks... it's about the dumbasses who choose to do bad things.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:28 | 2636545 Dubious Maximus
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Does the need to be famous or be of some notoriety play anything in why someone snaps here?  The Norway dude sounds like he was looking for some notoriety.  Not sure he's all up there in his head, sure enough.  But can we just blame mental sickness in all cases of these mass shootings?  You can't tell me they're not aware that they're taking lives.

That sicko in Montreal Luka Magnotta who cut up that Chinese student a few weeks back, he seemed to have built an internet persona looking for fame for years before the alleged crimes occurred. He's probably crazy, but as they say, there's "method to the madness", no?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:28 | 2636548 Dubious Maximus
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Does the need to be famous or be of some notoriety play anything in why someone snaps here?  The Norway dude sounds like he was looking for some notoriety.  Not sure he's all up there in his head, sure enough.  But can we just blame mental sickness in all cases of these mass shootings?  You can't tell me they're not aware that they're taking lives.

That sicko in Montreal Luka Magnotta who cut up that Chinese student a few weeks back, he seemed to have built an internet persona looking for fame for years before the alleged crimes occurred. He's probably crazy, but as they say, there's "method to the madness", no?

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 12:40 | 2636592 blunderdog
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In the case of the individual I personally knew who went on a shooting spree, here are the factors ranked based on my opinion of importance:

 1) he was sky-high on crack
 2) he was extremely angry at his girlfriend
 3) he had recently learned the military wouldn't accept his enlistment because of a congenital heart condition

I'm sure if his story had been publicized recently, there'd be a good number of commenters here calling it a false flag attack to advance some government conspiracy.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 14:10 | 2637037 covert
Fri, 07/20/2012 - 17:15 | 2637778 lolmaster
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FYI the Nepal event was a political assassination ... Little bit different

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 19:45 | 2638021 Bicycle Repairman
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I really don't care if a dozen of these shootings take place a year.  12 X 12 = 144 dead.  Compare that with the Red Terror. 

I am not, and will never be, a fucking kulak.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 23:25 | 2638301 diesheepledie
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It is just natures way of cleaning up. Cannibal sheep that have gone insane. That is all. After the fluoride, ADD meds, and the Bernays electronic mind control pumped in constantly. Something finally snaps. And sometimes it is a completely rational decision that the sheep must be exterminated and they just do it "their way". Then it can be capitalized on, and we can confiscate the weapons from any possible resisting herd animals. Then the real slaughter begins! :-) Don't worry. We will get the numbers down to what they are supposed to be soon enough. 

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 02:32 | 2638444 Tirion
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It's a tragedy for all the loved ones of the victims, needless to say, but what puzzles me is the shock and outrage. If you allow people to bear arms, WTF do you expect? Get real. Make owning firearms illegal. It won't put an end to such incidents, but it will make them rarer. Otherwise drop the shock and outrage already.

Sat, 07/21/2012 - 09:30 | 2638616 DanDaley
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Then only the criminals and cops have guns, which eventually leads to murder by government (China, USSR, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nazi Germany, etc.).  No, the problem is a decadent civilization, such as we have now.

Sun, 07/22/2012 - 03:37 | 2639886 mkhs
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Sure, and while we are at it, let's make a law prohibiting murder.   That will put a stop to all of this.

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