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Massive $17 Trillion Hole Found In Obamacare
Two years ago, when introducing then promptly enacting Obamacare, the president stated that healthcare law reform would not cost a penny over $1 trillion ($900 billion to be precise), and that it would not add ‘one dime’ to the debt. It appears that this estimate may have been slightly optimistic… by a factor of 1700%. Because coincident with the recent Supreme Court debacle, in which a constitutional law president may be about to find that his magnum opus law is, in fact, unconstitutional, someone actually read the whole thing cover to cover, instead of merely relying on the CBO’s, pardon Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs’, funding estimates. That someone is Republican Jeff Sessions who after actually running the numbers has uncovered that the true long-term funding gap is a mind-boggling $17 trillion, just a tad more than the original sub $1 trillion forecast. This latest revelation means that total underfunded US welfare liabilities: Medicare, Medicaid and social security now amount to $99 trillion! Add to this total US debt which in 2 months will be $16 trillion, and one can see why Japan, which is about to breach 1 quadrillion in total debt (yen, but who's counting), may want to start looking in the rearview mirror for up and comer competitors. And while Obama may have been taking creative license with a number that is greater than total US GDP, he was most certainly correct when saying that Obamacare would not add a penny to US debt. Because the second the US government comes to market to fund a true total debt/GDP ratio of 750%, it is game over, and the Fed will have its hands full selling Treasury puts every waking nanosecond to have any time left for the daily 3pm stock market ramp.
What is it that brought about this discovery of some inverse cash under the rug? The Daily Caller explains.
The hidden shortfall between new spending and new taxes was revealed just after Supreme Court justices grilled the law’s supporters about its compliance with the Constitution’s limits on government activity. If the court doesn’t strike down the law, it will force taxpayers find another $17 trillion to pay for the increased spending.
The $17 trillion in extra promises was revealed by an analysis of the law’s long-term requirements. The additional obligations, when combined with existing Medicare and Medicaid funding shortfalls, leaves taxpayers on the hook for an extra $82 trillion in health care obligations over the next 75 years.
Regular readers are well aware that when it comes to US insolvency, the underfunded American welfare state, whose obligations now amount to $100 trillion!, is the primary cause of this country's ultimate downfall. This latest revelation only makes it that much more certain, and likely, faster.
Currently, the Social Security system is $7 trillion in debt over the next 75 years, according to the Government Accountability Office.
Also, Medicare will eat up $38 trillion in future taxes, and Medicaid will consume another $2o trillion of the taxpayer’s wealth, according to estimates prepared by the actuarial office at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
The short-term cost of the Obamacare law is $2.6 trillion, almost triple the $900 billion cost promised by Obama and his Democratic allies, said Sessions.
The extra $17 trillion gap was discovered by applying standard federal estimates and models to the law’s spending obligations, Sessions said.
For example, Session’s examination of the health care law’s “premium support” program shows a funding gap $12 billion wider that predicted.
The same review also showed the law added another $5 trillion in unfunded obligations for the Medicaid program.
Of course, that this "discovery" happened two years after the law was originally proposed and enacted merely once again confirms that other banana republics have nothing on the US, and that America continues to live in a state of sheer chaos when it comes to understanding that every use of funds must ultimately have a source as well.
Jeff Sessions' full presentation.
As a reminder this is what One trillion looks like.
...Now multiply by 17.
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and yet it seems there will be at least four votes on SCOTUS who take precisely that view (of essentially unlimited government power), at least when there isn't a specific bill of rights amendment.
The Congress and Senate is full of sociopaths and psychopaths.
Every one of these asshole congresscritters that voted for a "$1 trillion" bill and it is really $17 Trillion, should be taken out and shot for four reasons:
1.) They are stupid
2.) They can't read
3.) The can't do simple math
and
4.) they are a bunch of ignorant corrupt incorrigible fuckwads that cause humanity and American Citizens more problems (parabolic I might add) than they solve. It would be best if they just fucking quite, or died. Any way is good by me.
They are trying to make us more patriotic by raising taxes
I think todays "record setting" lotto drawing tells us we are all too willing to pay taxes. If goverment was smart htey would just lower income taxes and start all lotto drawings at 500million.
Ha ha ha. He said, "If goverment was smart". Man, you crack me up.
Goes right into the levitating acronym drawer along with "deficit spending", "flying saucer" etc
The US is now officially the World leader in Corporate tax rates.
Don't hold back Everyman. Tells us what you really think about politicians!
Every one of these asshole congresscritters that voted for a "$1 trillion" bill and it is really $17 Trillion, should be taken out and shot for four reasons:
No just one, NONE of them read it, was not allowed time to read it, and voted for it without even knowing WHAT IT SAYS.
For that reason alone, they should have been recalled.
"...he was most certainly correct when saying that Obamacare would not add a penny to US debt."
" It depends on what your definition of "is" is."
I hope they don't even stop to wipe off the blade of the guillotine once they're finished with bankers, and it's the lawyers' turn.
Are the congress critters before or after the bankers?
"We have to pass it so you can see what's in it". Nancy Pelosi.
Now for the next project...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_army_rolling_along/4622222738/
I can only see what's in it (after I've passed it) if I ate nuts or corn.
So I'm to believe Jeff Say-sions?
Is this an early "April Fool's Day" joke or something?
Did hell just freeze over while I wasn't looking?
How many questions can I ask in one comment?
Four, apparently.
In GodBama You Trust
Ah ah...he's just "sort of a God"...we have to be precise, unlike the trained seals arf arfffing ;-)
As opposed to believing the CBO, which probably has never gotten a long term projection right and has a track record of woefully underestimating the cost of government programs?
If the government is going to make a projection, do you think they are more likely to overestimate the cost of programs or underestimate? If you can give me any examples of government social programs coming in under projected spending or even in line with projected spending Im certainly game to hear it.
Is the individual mandate unconstitutional? The answer to that question is obvious and tells you everything you need to know about Obama.
I don't take the word of one traitor over the word of another traitor. Jeff Sessions is the top "Patriot" Act cheerleader.
must vote for to find out what is in..
(C) Nancy Pelozi
still my favorite quote
alx
Charlie Rangel on passage of HC, it took us a long time to control the people.
"This is a big fucking deal" - Joe Biden
Ole Joe, always one for the understatement.
"Stand up up Chuck, take a bow"
It is amazing what a couple of brain aneurysms [and surgeries] will do to the brain.
Or were those lobotomies?
So many careers or jobs in America you need to pass a physical for, and / or a security clearance, amazing that the two top jobs need neither. Heck, you don't even need to prove you are an American.
For the kiddies who may not know...his brain is somewhat oxygen starved, explains a lot...ROTFL!!!
"The 4 1/2-hour procedure was similar to that performed Feb. 12 on the left side of Mr. Biden's brain. Under the procedure, a surgeon using a microscope pinches the aneurysm with a clip, bringing the walls of the artery together. The clip remains in the patient."
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/05/04/us/biden-resting-after-surgery-for-second-brain-aneurysm.html
It's small comfort they found a brain when they opened him up...commencing Young Frankenstein jokes in 3 2 1 ;-)
Some of us are in the same time zone/ on a different day, nmewn! I can't wait for the VIX hints to ( spread).
Tyler has been talking about [ credit ] all week/weak !
Meh. 99 trillion or one quadrillion. What is the difference if all you have to do is print that money to cover our debt. Of course, it will make all our wealth worthless.
"Of course, it will make all our wealth worthless."
Only if you count "wealth" in FRNs.
When Rome's treasury were empty they would conquer lands in the East. just sayin.
Requiring people to purchase health care may be unconstitutional, but raising a new tax which everyone pays and then providing "free" health care would not. Perhaps this was the plan all along.
Yes, the less popular legally precedence'd version, alas. Just Medicare it!
Snarc but true.
That's exactly what's going on as the fall back position...just another tax on all...instead of just forcing the young who didn't want health insurance to begin with.
Robert Reich was an early advocate for it.
Fucking statists, we'll never be rid of them.
I'm not sure if that pinhead, cracker Sessions could have passed sixth grade math, so maybe some higher primate should run the numbers!
Sixth Grade Math<> I like that one! Better [ dot something it] ?
That was a complement!
You're going to need a bigger lottery.
Mega Millions Lottery = Obamao 2012: Hope and change from a fiver!
Well California dumbass voters vote for $30 bn in debt to fund high speed rail (just because china does it means we must do it too).
Latest estimates are over $100bn, and even that number is thought to be short changed. So 4x is probably the low end. 17x might be par for the course
"Were you sent here by the devil?
No good sir, I'm on the level
The ring came off my pudding can!
...Sorry, Mom the mob has spoken.....
D'Oh!"
Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSoa1b-yBUY
Top 10 episode of all time.
citation needed
http://www.carlustblog.com/2009/02/chevrolet-chevy-citation.html
hole, BiCheZ
ARe , Matey!
SMOKING HOT! I turned one of those into a Lawer Slewie. The rest is history.
I got my ( prancing horses) though!
Spend like a pi-rat Day !!!
Always miss you " Green Man". /sarc
I knew that would make you change! My favorite color is BLUE!
I'm only happy when it's $17T! Pour your Fiat Bux down.
Massive deficiency in US ingenuity revealed upon further examination of its unwillingness to solve a basic problem.
Does this crush Potus's chances for re-election? Repubs gonna be taking him to the screws for this mess up. Maybe he'll finally call off the PPT?
election? what election? ...elections are entertainment for plebs
You know.... the reason why dow is over 13k. The reason Uncle Benny can print till the world runs out of ink.
Well we don't want Obamacare but something has to be done. My solution is to end all insurance and force hospitals to drop the insane $1500 bill for walking through the door.
We need doctors again, not medical revenue generators.
There aren't any doctors around me anymore, the urgent care facilities have all been absorbed so you must go to the ER for any small problem.
I cut my thumb fairly bad and needed a few stitches. $85 for the stitch job, $1500 for the ER, $500 for the doctor.
OVER $2000 FOR A CUT THUMB!!!!!!!
The mafia couldn't dream of getting away with extortion like that.
Fixing a cut thumb, $2000
Transplanting a perfectly good heart into a war mongering parasite..
Free...
Thumbs are transitory. Coulda got 1.25 oz. Gold for that $2000.
(just use duct tape next time)
Transitory. Funny, reminds me of what happened before my doctor retrained his focus and told me to cough this morning.
That ER visit would have cost $80 in Pre 1964 Morgan Dollars.
I cut my thumb a few weeks ago. Up here in Canada it would have been zero charge with a ten to fifteen hour wait. Luckily my wife is a vet and we have many supplies at the house.
"Thumbs are transitory."
possible 'Quote of the Year' that
I'll forward it to the Awards Committee and post a copy to Bubble Ben to wind him up a bit
Next time....crazy glue it.
Who do you think just paid for a bunch of illegal aliens healthcare?
I think it will come in under budget, they'll either use lethal injection or shoot us. If they shoot us it will fall under the Homeland Security or FEMA budget.
I'm telling you - they aren't gonna pay!!!
Patriot Act, NDAA, FEMA camps and DHS/TSA has placed their order for 450 million hollow point bullets to control 313 million people.
That's 1.44 bullets for every citizen in the country, including the shooters and their families.
I wonder if they've thought about the unintended consequences, like, who's gonna pay taxes that fund their stupid asses.
That purchase is meaningless, its .40 cal pistol ammo which isnt worth a bucket of spit for controlling anyone. Not good for anything but peashooters.
$17 trillion over how much time? We already spend about $2.5 trillion a year on healthcare today. It isn't like Obamacare spending is brand-new, out-of-thin-air spending.
Big numbers like this make me suspicious. SS being in debt $7 trillion over the next 75 years is a tenuous figure at best. Raise the retirement age 2 years and it looks all different. Think that won't happen during the next 75 years? $58 trillion on Medicare and Medicaid in "future taxes?" On a long enough timeline....
There are enough things wrong with Obamacare that making meaningless projections is kind of, well, meaningless.
Still, it makes the point well enough that the real problem with healthcare in the US isn't how we pay for it, but how much it costs.
Ridiculous of course..."besmirching a perfectly bad reputation" as well. "Travon Martin" meets "the end of the world as we know it." The fact of the matter is "Obamacare" as the other side of aisle likes to threaten us all with would be...but for Ms. Pelosi..."all about savings." Having said that anyone who doesn't see the need for a new plan has no grasp of reality. Currently the bulk of the American people are now uninsured (thanx to 2008.) This is DANGEROUS. Insofar as CARE is being provided...well, "perhaps full on Mind Martian"...anywho...CARE per dollar is what the goal is here. "Obamascare" is right up there with Mediscare. Solutions please! There is no lack of money on the table! I agree with that!
I've maintained from the very beginning... the PURPOSE of the health care legislation was to INCREASE debt... everything else was secondary. With fear of sounding like a broken record... our monetary system is based on credit money that is loaned into existence with interest that begins to accumulate when that money is created. The only way that the system can survive is for debt to be in a state of constant expansion. If debt contracts you face cascading defaults and deflationary depression. So the name of the game... find ways to increase debt. It can be a housing bubble, leveraged corporate take-overs, parabolic student loans, frivolous wars, etc. etc. etc. I thought cap and trade was was going to provide the vehicle for the next rung of ponzi economics, but they rammed through healthcare instead. Just my two cents... I certainly could be wrong.
I have wondered for years if the deficit is the tail and not the dog, for the exact same reason. Could it be they have to spend more in order to allow the Fed to print more and maintain the status quo?
It's interesting how we view debt/money. If the gov't is increasing debt, we are suspicious or concerned... but it corporate credit is increasing that is viewed as a good sign... businesses are expanding, banks are lending, etc. And of course home ownership is the American dream. But all of this debt; consumer, corporate and gov't is the same... it all represents how money is created/loaned into existence. The system itself is agnostic... it doesn't care which lever generates the additional credit/debt/money... as long as the aggregate increases.
When the shit hit the fan in 2008, gov't spending went through the roof. Now you can make all sorts of cases for "why". But think about how things get done. Why was so little energy spent in trying to use money wisely in the reinvestment act? Because it didn't matter! Debt needed to be created and money needed to be spent. Same with healthcare. Sloppily fudged together horseshit, primarily handouts to big insurance.
Go further back... the housing bubble was engineered to accelerate/re-inflate the larger debt bubble. 2008 would have happened in 2001/2002 if not for housing... can kicking in the ponzi scheme to end all ponzi schemes... the US dollar.
Exactly. Bill Still gets it right. The problem is not fiat money but debt-based, FRN fiat money. Sovereign fiat would solve most of these problems, especially if combined with ending fractional reserve banking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI
Increase the debt and they increase the control.
It's not for the health of the American citizen it's for the health of the shadow government.
Like most of the labels they wrap around their legislative or adminsitrative turds, you have to take a 180 degree view to understand the inside joke of their gang sign lingo.
War on Drugs...War on Poverty...No Child Left Behind...National Defense....Federal Reserve...War on Terror
Das Homeland Security, Patriot Act, NDAA, Department of edumacation, Defence Department, PeaceKeepers, Border Patrol,
Doublespeak, Orwell style. He has known since 1948. War is peace, etc.
Writing novels? Keep it short and sweet.
The AXIOMS, are well noted.
jeff fucking sessions? .....and the daily caller? These are the sources?
Where was jeff and his abacus when bush put two wars off the books and called it an emergency funding...how about creating that gaping donut hole...jeff voted for that between lynching fantasies.
Or when mr. hankey paid off the russian and arab banks with the first traunche for all the shit cassano and his vipers at AIG special products in london sold.
or letting angelo mozillo of the fucking hook.
holder is the worst AG this country has ever had, and being worse than bush's three scumbags is pathetic.
Jesus ever loving christ...I voted for this president and have rued the day for all kinds of reasons, not the least of which letting every bankster walk, with help from jeff, and darrell douchbag issa. Then there is the help jeff provided the oil companies who really need a fucking tax break.
This ACA was nothing more than a collosal gift to the insurance companies.
That said giving sessions and the daily callerthis kind of face time is nothing short of an april fool.
Wait till you see the supreme court this cracker will be a party to if willard gets to make that choice.
You want seven scalia's, or his anal cyst thomas, maybe a couple of alitos?
Just chiming in to say...I couldn't agree more.
But it's a question of priorities. Do you want to blow up goat herders on the other side of the world...or give your citizens decent health care. Pick one.
It's not one or the other... it's both. And it won't be decent health care... it will be increasingly shitty healthcare as peak debt comes crashing all around us. Shit sandwich.
Not to mention the well-known inverse relation between good health and so called "health care". Good health is all about genes, sanitation, daily exercise and proper diet.
How about neither? I dont want war on goat herders or more power and control given to the federal government.
health care! health care! you win! you win!
That's Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, The Turd. Where was his abacus? Same place it was when he voted against ending the sweetheard oil subsidies.
As to the unfunded social security and medicare, can you explain what I have been paying a total of 15.3% of my wages to for 45 years?
This is a very partisan article with little real information. I know little Jeffy Sessions, and he cannot count, much less add and subtract.
yep, the daily caller is tucker carlson's little yellow rag. This is the kind of crap stephan moore comes up with, and usually the 'facts' are pulled from kochwhore sphincters.
CNTL+P BITCHEZ!@#$!@#$#$ PC LOAD LETTER?
FUCK
Pc Load Letter? I don't even know what the fuck that means!
"Ink low, call Timmy."
I'm going to beat you with your own toner cartridge!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbyPzQgePvE
all moot as obamacare is cooked...........................
"Oh, they'll seize on the report, ... They'll find one line. If there is one line out of 10,000, there'll be something to say gotcha with."
Whether Obamacare is ruled constitutional or not, it's always been a fiscal impossibility...
Nice hat.
The { month end flows} , were pretty weak!
Tyler is 100% correct., with respect to / Spain and Italy/. That ( collusive) esm/efsf FIREWALL is right up there with the ( Global Transaction Tax) ...?
We all know that the machine WILL LOSE! Welcome Q-2 When Al Sharpton get's hungry, we know the societal ( VENEER IS CRACKING!)
Man...from Spain all the way to the Bros of Islam in one swoop.
Quixotic is a fitting adjective for this economy.
The [ delusionals] are out today. OOOps Tonight. Time Changes.
Time is constant. You change.
Thanks Mr.' Peanut.
another idea that didn't quite take flight.
Thanks Banzai! Big Bird [via] NPR.
the Solicitor General did apparently "not have a good night sleep"...http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ntARTRQOpd0
Da chinzah...are a comin hooomah...to rooooostahhh!!!
Wut? The Cheetos didn't drop in the vending machine. Those fuckers must be tweaking the mechanisms to not drop 1 out of every 8 times. Profit!
So that's what the GMO Dodo clone looks like....thank God it's sterile.
With the group of CRIMINALS, running the country today, it will probably pass as constitutional anyway!
NOT SURPRISED BY ANYTHING THESE CRIMINALS DO ANY MORE!
now i understand why Obama wasted no time after becoming President shoving Obamacare thru.....instead of worrying about the economy and unemployment
Alright Fellas! Who actually read the article?
Who actually { paragraphed} it?
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Obamacare: You mean somebody finally actually read it? Pardon my shock.
I should have taken the 8'th , but felt compelled.
The Big Dogs can ( banter )
Who has time for healthcare? Since I'm not working I'm back in school. By the time I get out, I'll go on food stamps, Medicaid/Medicare with a PHD.
As for the hole? No problem. All we will need is QE 500. China, Russia, India and Brazil will continue to buy US Treasuries. So, why worry?
A 17Trillion hole? Sell your real estate and buy AAPL! Its going to $1M/share
It has nothing to do with Constitutionallity, it has to do with politicking a Corperate Bill.
Titanic, Costa Concordia, Obamacare - "Hole? What hole?"
Who ends up "WHOLE"? Now ya fellas are getting the point!
I don't trade bonds. If I did they would be short.
Yields are going to tighten in q-2.
Tyler mentioned the " BELLY" , of the curve. [ 3's-5's-7's]. He makes good sense. Look @ corporate yields, and the IPO/ consolidation rush.
Ask Ilene.
I'm just here say. AAPL of 20$ is just a blip!
*Conspiracy Theory*
Jobs was radiologically poisoned after telling Foxconn he was moving his iPad bi'ness elsewhere after the frequent (? Chinese reporting...) factory "jumper" suicides...
[You want proof? Go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself.]
Wait...wanna hear what the kids are listening to these days? "I Don't Give
A Fuck Or Shit"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAjyD1wktEI
just speculating...as i always do...but there really was no defense of the individual..."mandate." and i'm not sure if the Supreme Court itself is ready to be in charge of health care...it could do that of course. "Just run the thing." Hmmmm. "That would be interesting." Healthcare run by Judges. SUPREME COURT judges no less. New meaning to the term "yes i think i will sue you you worthless alcoholic drunk phucking...." anywhoo...
I'm impressed { dis/abled/vet}. So? What's next? I want to start a family, and you want to go " Green Man".
I like you!
...whoops..
Interesting, when the original estimates came out I said just multiply it by 8 and that should get us close to the real number (I was thinking $8-10 trillion). Looks like I was a bit short.
PrudentBear
Paste: Yesterday from Bloomberg (Craig Torres and Jeff Kearns): “Today’s lecture focused on the Fed’s response, the regulatory response, and the long-term implications of both. The students gave Bernanke a gift today: a framed front page from The New York Times’ April 20, 1933 edition which featured a four-column headline announcing: ‘Gold Standard Dropped Temporarily To Aid Prices and Our World Position; Bill Ready for Controlled Inflation.’”
GWU, BiCheZ!
Are you Serious!? That is most apropos. The question is, what was going through that F'ed up peanut brain of his? I wouldn't really call the chairsatan a he, more like an IT. How hot is his place in hell? that is the question
I'm telling anyone with ears to hear, the healthcare industry is bankrupt.
It does this by reducing people to poverty because they acquire some illness or another (often curable, often not). Those very same people then go on to acquire another illness, and another, until old age when they start to acquire alot.
But that time, they've run out of funds! So then these costs are socialized onto everybody else (Medicare, higher insurance premiums), reducing everyone else to poverty!
Eventually, there is nobody left to "pay" and the whole thing goes bang, doctor's offices go bust, hospitals disappear. We are right before the bang.
http://blog.ivman.com/wp-content/FishyRumors.jpg
Time to go visit Timmy Wonka and the money factory again! I wonder who's going to fall into the river of cash and get sucked up the tubes, Barney Frank???
I'm applying for a summer job at the Fed. My fingers can tap "CTRL + PRINT" pretty good....I just hope it pays a little above minimum wage. O mean, I have no formal traing in this but I am a quick learner.
I can give my posts at ZH readers as a reference for the job.
Dont forget your macroeconomics 101 book with all the sections ripped out except the part about Keynesian economics.
Have Banzai tweak your CV
Hugo Salinas Price continues: (interview on king world news)
“But what kind of a world that will be? I think it will be a very nasty world. In spite of having gold and silver, that may not be enough to save you. They’re good things to have, but what we actually need to do is save our civilization and not go down in flames.
I think the first thing to do would be to insert silver coins into the monetary system. That would be a healthy thing to do. I was very happy to see Ron Paul pull out a silver coin. To me it’s like he was facing the vampire Ben Bernanke with a silver coin, instead of a silver bullet.” "...whole scheme of paper is unworkable, then the world is going to go down in flames."
How do you healthcare for people who have 'gone down in Flames'? There is not Healthcare for that. Meaning Healthcare is obsolete.
We are in this game together.
The asset reallocation this week was amazing. TOSHINS were repatriated and the usd held firm against the yen!
The eur/gbp is heavily overbought! That play always ends up bad. OPEC/ AsianCentralBank rinse wash.
SCREW YOU ALL !!! I just won the MEGA MILLION !!!
AH shite! I missed all the numbers..... but one............
whose obligations now amount to $100 trillion!, is the primary cause of this country's ultimate downfall.
Maybe something behind the debt is the country's ultimate downfall?Debt is hypothetical. It is an imaginary number that is not only relative but also based on a monetary system that no longer exists. That is not the only instance of relative value. The definition of many financial terms today do more to obscure meaning than to reveal meaning. The attempt at world domination is creating a very unstable flux that will soon solidify one way or another. In any case the time to
Invert the pyramid
is upon us.
Invert the pyramid, bitches! Take a look at the Israeli flag while you are at it.
I say enjoy your breakfast on a Saturday morning. slewie and yen cross have their own meaningless agendas to push, as we all do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A&ob=av2e
I love you guys, but Uncle Kenny told me you used to be fun on Friday.
you're usually not home till at least an hour from now
you didn't run outa money again, didya?
the first of the month can be a real trial
have you been chatting up baby_B, vic?
is she into katyPerry? i hope so! might be a long shot, but soul is soul, bro
I did not chat with baby_B. She did not want to talk with me tonight. She was so much more loquacious six months ago.
What gives? LOL
I just wanna help her write her paper and defeat the NWO. LOL again
Who cares? Buy physical.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18oYGsmUprM
first of all, she's a 21 y.o. chick, and
...i forget what else...
Sl;ewie USE SOME COMMON SENSE! Election Season!
plus, she's got a bbf and she's strapped
Senator Sessions....seriously GOP Senator from Alabama.
The dude who voted for all the Bush tax cuts and both the Iraq/Afghanstain Wars, all the sudden gets religion when it comes to Democratic programs. Color me not shocked.
And his largest sponsors come from Health-care, insurance and legal industry.
The Daily Caller - Tucker Carlson and the dude who advised Dick Cheney founded that rag. You have to be fucking shitting me.
This is just Sessions talking his own GOP book. Political CRAP.
What a meaningless comment from a longtime, great, ZH commenter.
Thanks for nothing.
Buy physcial if you are true believer or buy JPM if you wanna short this nonsense.
One serious take for now:
lizzy,
No one I have ever met in the real world cares who Jeff Sessions is. Perhaps this is important to you, but the "sheeple" do not care.
The Great Irony is that you and I hate on Jeff Sessions while the great unwashed do not care about him.
It's ironic in that caring about Jeff Sessions gets one no where. It should but it does not. I think we are the real losers in the grand scheme of things, no?
I don't hate Jeff Sessions.
I hate a system whereby Senators and Congresspeople don't represent the PEOPLE but are merely the puppets of their sponsors.
Critical thinking makes me look at who sponsors Senator Sessions. Then i look at his voting record. This man is NOT against massive deficit spending. He voted for TWO off balance sheets wars, and large large tax cuts for the rich.
The fact that he "found" this hole TWO years after the legislation was passed, and it was published on the Daily Caller, during an election year, makes one believe this is nothing but another GOP dude talking the agenda of his sponsors.
We don't need that piece of shit Neocon Jeff Sessions to tell us what we already know.
That is of course the point of considering the source.
N aH THE junk'S gALORE! rEMEDIAL IDIOTS!
wHEN i WAS 17, THERE WAS A DINNER TIME! jUST SAYING!
We all log on to ZH because of deep-seeded personal issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A&ob=av2e
I concur. Please tell me what my [ loss of vanity] is ?
One day I willl be accepted, and renamed " NERO".
I concur as well. Ain't no Christmas gift out there that could be as sweet as spending the day with you.
No irony here - I type this because I care.
Keep Typing " vic". You're gifted!
Not to mention you're financial savy.
Oh I am sure ZH is busy preparing an equally credible piece using Bernie Sanders and Current TV as sources...what a bunch of BS. The runup to April Fool's I suppose.
I hope your right about Sanders getting a say on ZH - he is the only true U.S. Senator that speaks directly for the people - eg. if not for Sanders and Paul pursuing the FOIA, we'd still be in the dark about the FED - having never been exposed to the under-handedness of Sire-Chairsatan, for his monetary treachery.
That said,... Sanders [Ind/Vt. U.S.Senator] is a 'huge advocate' for "Single-Payer" health insurance. Vermont has been implementing programs to coincide with the 'Affordable Care Act' when it begins in 2014. But, the state, and others have also been trying to circumvent the mandate for a more realistic approach knowing that most people in Vermont [certainly other small states] would find it extremely hard to pay for the 'forced-premiums'![*unconstutional !!!]
Ps. I've spent my summers & winters in Vermont in my family home since childbirth. [biased? -Yes!]
Ps2. I plan to be buried there, along with the proud "Green-Mountain-Boy's" [patriotic and proud american? - Yes!]
Ps3. Bernie Sanders,... like him or not, is a "Great American!" [ one of my contempories I refer to as a patriotic hero!]
jmo
It's Amazing? The [ EBS] gaps into Sydney!
FUCK Horseradish/ I want Wasabe .
BULLSHIT AND THEY WILL FUND
-motto above steps as one walks into white house
Hey Folks/ Want some so called 1'st world yields?
You Ass hats couldn't handle it! You sponges would destroy IDEA!
ah, yes, the over 2000 pages of steaming shit, never read, broken promise of allowing the public to read it before it came to a vote in Congress, ramrodded through the Congress against the will of the people.
I'm actually surprised the Supreme Court didn't follow suit.
There still may be a chance to obliterate this pos.
Somebody better call Ben and fire up the presses!!!!!