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Fiat (F IM) and Pirelli (PC IM) shares suspended for excessive losses. That is all.

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fiat suspended. ironic.
cash for clunkers...
Fiat cash for your clunker? It's worth more in scrap metal value.
"This is a gamechanger..."
Indeed, why does this quote sound familiar ? Ah -- of course. The Cockney chap from the "actionable" financial entertainment channel: Simon Hobbs. A handsome bloke, by-the-bye. Must get all the chicks, what with all that journalistic acumen and "gamechinging" breaking reportage.
Bottoms-up.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_onQvIg4FVII/S__T8lADZ7I/AAAAAAAACkI/1HHlcm1Y3e...
Maybe the Bernank will announce the same tomorrow at 2:15. We can hope that this mess in the US will eventually stop. But why stop when everyone else all around the world keeps on partying? Crank up the presses and the helicopter!!!
Well said!
...fuuunnny
Oh crap. Not Pirelli!! Best frakkin tires for my eurotrash car. That's not right.
By 'Eurotrash', you must mean Volkswagen? :)
They lost it with the end of air cooled engine vehicle production.
I've never been a big fan of Pirellis, but the Diablo Stradas on my scooter have held up really well.
Yeah, good tires for a Ninja 250, too.
And my American (well, Canadian) 2010 Camaro SS too. Damn, they could stand to be a little cheaper. Costs almost 2k to re-shoe that thing with P-zeros and they wear out fast.
Bummer! Pirelli makes the best square tires on the market too.
The best tires for your car are made by Continental, in Germany; and they're also cheaper.
IQ 145,
Continental makes a ZR rated tire?.
Learn something new eva day.
Collapse bitchez
Wow. Can I pick where to suspend trading for excess losses?
Free market, that's what I'm talking about.
Edit: Bonus, lets just unwind those trades, it's not very nice that this happened to Fiat after all.
OK short stocks ban coming in 4,3,2....
If Fiat is screwed, so is Chrysler.
Any offers Lee Iaccoa ?
K-Cars for all....bitchezz !!!
Ready for a Chrysler takeover of Fiat: now that Mayan icon of the snake eating its own tail makes sense... :)
More like Chinese take over of Chrysler take over of Fiat.
Market share...bitchyuanzzzzzz !!!
Fix It Again Toni
Shall we continue, you redneck scum of the earth?
by PaperBugsBurnon Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:07
#1536834
i'm neither, mf'er
you calling anybody racist? 2 funny
scum
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by bob_dabolinaon Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:26
#1536855
You're the one randomly ad hominem attacking me with racial epitaphs. I don't come on the boards and start calling people niggers and spicks (like you demonstrated today with your mad insult skills)
At least when I talk, I back it up you punk bitch.
by PaperBugsBurnon Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:35
#1537027
When you talk you back it up?
How the fuck do you back up a statement like "blacks are worthless" (your statement)?
You must be an ugly, ignorant (former slave-owner) southerner who are in cahoots with the banksters over the "drug war". "federal prisons" and private prisons are your new plantations.
I must say too, anybody who feels a need to put somebody else down because of race or whatever has an inferiority complex to begin with.
You are pure scum and your day is coming... no more bankster dollar to enable you hicks to run around acting like pirates ("law enforcement" -ha, what a sick joke).
Back to the bayou/swamp, you ignorant scum!!
Quit trolling the board.
bob,
Pls, no dog in this hunt, but pls no profiling Southerners as former slave owners.( many more did not than did).
The North had them in abundance, and the Emanci Procli did not inlcude the North, US Grant had slaves 2yrs after the war ended.
When blacks moved from the south to the north,(after the war) they were treated far worse.
Thank you sir
This guy really thinks Bill Gates is in Africa sterilizing blacks
No one cares.
fuu,@10:48
I do, as I am not a racist, and am a Southerner.
Also, when did GOD die and make you King?.
No one cares?,You speak for all mankind.....nice ego goin dere Butch.
No one cares to read it in two threads. Wtf are you replying to the repost? Go back to the other thread if you want to roll around with the deranged.
You have to have a little understanding for people who do the racial thing ,they do it because they have been told to and they do not have enough brain power to think for themselves, it kinda like a child with special needs .
You're absolutely correct but I still get off on ripping their "superiority complex" to shreds!
lmao
Dude,
He has said in the past he gets off on controlling people. If this is how you want to spend your time, it is a free country. I have made this error myself.
It is a real mixture, on one hand I want to challenge all the racism too, on the other hand you can't take it all on and it litters up the boards for the folks who visit here. I know of a bright young black man that visited this site and did not come back because of all the racism, it makes me sad.
Peace
"It is a real mixture, on one hand I want to challenge all the racism too, on the other hand you can't take it all on and it litters up the boards for the folks who visit here."
Amen to that. Just part of the distraction machine.
Green arrow up!
on Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:48
#1537046
I didn't say niggers were worthless. I said blacks were worthless and I backed that comment up with hard facts. Why don't you look at the unemployment rate, and welfare programs in general by demographic.
So like I said, I don't run around calling people "red neck" "nigger" or "spick" or "chink" or anything else like you do.
You ad hominem because you don't have shit else to say (but sure can put words in my mouth like nigger, maybe because you want one in yours)
16% unemployed
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
Take a look at food stamp usage by demographic if you want to be really embarrased. You can look that one up yourself. You can start here:
"90% of black children on food stamps"
http://news.change.org/stories/90-of-black-children-on-food-stamps
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by PaperBugsBurnon Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:51
#1537101
Here's your un-banksterfied history lesson for today:
Carrie Buck v. James Hendren Bell, Superintendent of State Colony
for Epileptics and Feeble Minded
Citations 274 U.S. 200 (more)
47 S. Ct. 584; 71 L. Ed. 1000
The ruling was written by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. In
support of his argument that the interest of the states in a "pure"
gene pool outweighed the interest of individuals in their bodily
integrity, he argued: We have seen more than once that the
public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It
would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap
the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not
felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being
swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if
instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to
let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who
are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that
sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting
the Fallopian tubes.
Holmes concluded his argument with the infamous phrase "Three
generations of imbeciles are enough".
They were unable to carry out the thorough, documented process for lack of database technology. Prescott Bush, Carnegie, Rockefeller foundations were all behind this.
Edwin Black, jewish researcher of the German ethnic cleansing in the 1940s, found their older history when he found the IBM Nazi connection. IBM's database technology was what allowed the Germans to ethnic cleanse you, your sister, brother, cousins etc. That is why the earlier one failed. He wrote a couple of books including Nazi Nexus and War on the Weak. Here's a chat about War on the Weak:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9014940408212321489#
This man also states that there was a connection between the Rockefeller foundation and Mengele's overseer. It's in one of his chats. See, it wasn't just a business connection between Thyssen and Bush; it was part of a much larger ethos and yes, conspiracy.
During the 1950s Prescott Bush ran for the US senate and lost when a last minute rumor linking him with the old Birth Control League (yes, you heard correctly: the BIRTH CONTROL LEAGUE which is shy George HW Bush was called "rubbers" as in condoms when he was in Congress in the sixties pushing this:
Congressional record in the
1960's:
Population Task Force
Among Bush's most important contributions to the neo-Malthusian cause while
in Congress was his role in the Republican Task Force on Earth Resources
and Population. The task force, which Bush helped found and then chaired,
churned out a steady stream of propaganda claiming that the world was
already seriously overpopulated; that there was a fixed limit to natural
resources and that this limit was rapidly being reached; and that the
environment and natural species were being sacrificed to human progress.
Bush's task force sought to accredit the idea that the human race was being
"down bred," or reduced in genetic qualities by the population growth among
blacks and other non-white and hence allegedly inferior races at a time
when the Anglo-Saxons were hardly able to prevent their numbers from
shrinking.
Comprised of over 20 Republican Congressmen, Bush's Task Force was a kind
of Malthusian vanguard organization which heard testimony from assorted
"race scientists," sponsored legislation and otherwise propagandized the
zero-growth outlook. In its 50-odd hearings during these years, the task
force provided a public forum to nearly every well-known zero-growth
fanatic, from Paul Ehrlich, founder of Zero Population Growth (ZPG), to
race scientist William Shockley, to the key zero-growth advocates infesting
the federal bureaucracy.
Giving a prestigious congressional platform to a discredited racist
charlatan like William Shockley in the year after the assassination of Dr.
Martin Luther King, points up the arrogance of Bush's commitment to
eugenics. Shockley, like his co-thinker Arthur Jensen, had caused a furor
during the 1960s by advancing his thesis, already repeatedly disproven,
that blacks were genetically inferior to whites in cognitive faculties and
intelligence. In the same year in which Bush invited him to appear before
the GOP task force, Shockley had written: "Our nobly intended welfare
programs may be encouraging dysgenics -- retrogressive evolution through
disproportionate reproduction of the genetically disadvantaged.... We fear
that 'fatuous beliefs' in the power of welfare money, unaided by eugenic
foresight, may contribute to a decline of human quality for all segments of
society."
During hearings on the Social Security amendments, Bush and witness
Alan Guttmacher had the following colloquy: Bush: Is there any
[opposition to Planned Parenthood] from any other organizations or
groups, civil rights groups?
Guttmacher: We do have problems. We are in a sensitive area in
regard particularly to the Negro. There are some elements in the
Negro group that feel we are trying to keep down the numbers. We are
very sensitive to this. We have a community relations department
headed by a most capable Negro social worker to try to handle that
part of the problem. This does, of course, cause us a good bit of
concern.
Bush: I appreciate that. For the record, I would like to say I am
1,000 percent in accord with the goals of your organization. I
think perhaps more than any other type of organization you can do
more in the field of poverty and mental health and everything else
than any other group that I can think of. I commend you.
This is an excerpt of Bush's unauthorized biography:
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/
They killed Martin Luther King as his family's wrongful death civil suit against the CIA et al jury said in the late nineties. No MSM covered it. They also killed Malcolm X, JFK and a lot of other people. A credible JFK investigation : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srstQVfVNEM
List of people they've murdered (google their names and their stories will come up):
Congressmen Larry McDonald, Sonny Bono and Larkin
USMC Colonel Sabow
Pulitzer Prize winner Gary Webb
Journalist Danny Casolaro
Ex-mil intel Steve Kangas who wrote the great "Origins of the Overclass" : http://www.scribd.com/full/23098198?access_key=key-gfuw42onruwfrrhw413
US Special Forces Colonels Edward P Cutolo, Baker, and one other whose name escapes me (all in the same incident).
Here's International Committee of the Red Cross investigator David Guyyat on this incident and background info:
http://www.scribd.com/full/23098845?access_key=key-1zc7ubdmfbsl0rixgkfp
As you can see, they are the real drug cartels and here's a good recap of what is known about their activities:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nWXlWTiC5Y
Here's where he first came to light when opposing CIA director Deutch ( a Bush stooge) in a LA townhall after Iran Contra came to light (Ricky Ross is an interesting figure in this case)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5MY3C86bk
Dois Gene "Chip" Tatum who wrote the Tatum Chronicles (very interesting) and whose testimony you can find on YouTube in an interview with 30 year FBI veteran Ted Gunderson (the ones on the beach have more info):
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=ta...
This man's testimony confirms the accusations: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=be....
Anyways, a good recap in written form of the decades long CIA drug trafficking is Rodney Stich's Drugging America: A Trojan Horse:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22578561/Drugging-America-A-Trojan-Horse-2nd-ed
So, the old Birth Control league became Family Planning after WWII when eugenics became taboo. Margaret Sanger was their shill. I and many others believe the "war on drugs is really their new ethnic cleansing technique:
The "war on drugs" results:
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php?name=Web_Links&l_op=visit&lid=152
How it is done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgeCeGk--I
The overall picture:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_query=th...
GET A CLUE!!
Go write a book.
Too busy mining me gold and enjoying the collapse of the KKK empire!
Thanks for doing his work for him. I mean you and he already ripped that other thread up and now he doesn't even have to step in here, you are just randomly posting it here.
Way to be his tool.
We can't know this, but I was wondering if we were watching a puppet show? What if the racist and the defender are one and the same? Of course, we are tools too now!! Ah well. See ya round da' blog, fellow primate with a gun.
In other breaking news, Berlusconi is caught trafficking 7 Slovakian teenagers into his home on Saturday, he told policia he is preparing for Armageddon!
Police later retracted the statement.....it was 5 Slovakian, 1 Ukrainian and I Moldavian. No charges will be filed as a result of the error.
just shows how humanist and europenis berlusconi is, not a racist like some ZH trolls. He'll take any gal who is purty for a bunga trip, as the roof of the bourse falls in at Milan. Forza Milan AC, his club...like his appendix.
So 1 europenis, 5 Slovakians, 1 Moldavan and 1 Ukranian is a politically correct, mixed-race bunga(?) trip?
Gold majors
Eldorado +4%
Agnico Eagle +3%
Barrick +2%
i thought Fiat was helping US Cars Companies........this is not good news for the Unions
...no Mambo for da Fiat and da Pirelli http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAQQ1Vlk1nE
Maybe a week from today, on the 40th anniversary of Nixon taking us off the Gold Standard (Bretton Woods), we can suspend our
own fiat and go back from transitory paper currency to traditional money =)
BAC down 10%+ now.
CDS +50bp on the day, insane.
Where do you watch cds info?
Bbg or reuters, from work. Dont know if you can get real-time info anywhere on the web though.
As Chuck Yeager said while breaking the sound barrier, "she's gettin pretty active up here". Bouncy, bouncy. Dont't you love the WTI price, contract CLU; I'd try it but I already bought t he Dec. Silver and it's a little hobby account; can't overdo it.
Id very very careful with any sort of long oil positions as there was news of a major seller in WTI (September and December contract) right before US close today...
I have the blues by thinking how much you could have made by being short periph euro. stocks.
But it's really "picking up pennies in front of the steamroller", and at any time, without warning, the underlying of your future can be suspended or pushed +20% higher by a concerted government action.
Not for those with a fragile heart.
Most ZHers are already in real money
FIAT 50?
The pieces are fitting in a little faster now. Added to miners....again. OK so far.
God, 2008 flashback on this crash down. Remember the volatility? You could make a fortune buying ES on a day like today. Why does this feel different?
Is this a "give us more" QE selloff? Is ES a good overnight play from here? I think so. What other bad news can we possibly get this week?
Only one problem with this view: Bernanke does not care about the economy. He cares about making the FED "useful" and filling his pockets. Crises are good news to him, because it makes keynesianism and central planning important.
And, if it is mandatory to send the DOW to 9,000 before activating QExxx, he will do it.
Haven't hears much from Beijing yet.
Italy will always have certain assets in Dorks eyes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zaSTehWRZ0
Although its always been a frustrating place.
Da-da-da-da-da-DURANGO! bitchez.
I think Fiat makes Ford and New Holland Tractors. They do porduce some good and important equipment. Those in the 6th and 7th decades of life remember the less than stellar Fiat cars. However, the Abarth is worth large money.
The Topolino!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500_%22Topolino%22
GM down to 24 and change. AIG setting smacked down to 23 and change. gobbamint cheese gone moldy
But, but, but.. the Volt!
It's not bad when it's fresh, just don't hold on to it too long.
LONDON | Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:32am EDT
European shares extended losses in afternoon trade on Monday, with a key index falling more than 3 percent to an 11-month low...
blah blah blah blah....the lowest in 11 months.
Automobiles shares topped the decliners' list, with the sector index .SXAP down 7.9 percent on concerns about demand for vehicles.
could amerika downgrade the meter? since they hate metric anyway.
devalue it down to 40-50 cm and they can claim willis tower in chicago the highest building again.
i think its genius.
Tomorrow's headline: "fiat currency trading suspended due to volatility (upswings) in GOLD", wow just gets better every passing moment.
Meanwhile in Italy
http://ngiley.com/wp-content/uploads/meanwhile/italy.jpg
Pirelli RE belongs to Pirelli ??? Reggie was right, and lot of commercial REs around the EU will find a new owners.... Cheapo ... Casino fer PDs and Hedgies con happy hour ....
Well I'm sorry for Pirreli as they are very fine tires and I've
oft coveted their possesion by Neighbors, however I'm
quite satiated with my Cum Hoe tires and I just love
the name. Cum Hoe. HEH.
As far as Fiat goes, I think we ought to examine the NAME further...ahehaheha.
To get a good look at the new life that awaits middle class Italians, you should watch the movie : "Nights of Cabiria."
On second thought, this is the fate that awaits Greeks, Spaniards, Italians,...all Europeans and Americans. Maybe then we can finaly call this a great depression.
If Fiat decides to go into bankruptcy protection, it will hit Chrysler here big time. Possibly tomorrow.
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