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The massive grass roots campaign over the topic of "pink slime" which seemingly came out of nowhere, and led to the bankruptcy of the company producing the substance, shows just why product branding can be such a profitable industry. Had the company taken a hint from the Goldman playbook and dubbed the peculiar substance an "Asymmetric Meat Initiative" all would have been forgotten in days, if not hours. Unfortunately, the mechanical process of "lean finely textured beef", aka pink slime, is just the beginning. As ProPublica shows, after pink slime, there comes Mechanically Separated Meat, aka "White Slime", and then Advanced Meat Recovery. And if recent history is a guide, any entities that have an equity stake in these last two processes should be afraid, very afraid, because the fate that befell the first, is about to visit the other two, in the process making such other 'delicacies" as bologna, hot dogs, taco filling, and meatballs surge in price once the traditional cheap "filler" substance is taken away by the same people who consume said meat byproducts in droves, in the process likely ending the concept of the dollar menu for good as restaurants have no choice but to resort to quality food. Ironically, will fat America itself, terrified by concepts such a colored slime, be responsible for its own weening from some of the worst products on earth, and in the process raise the price of food, and force itself to eat less? Will the end of the "slimes" be the one savior of the massively underfunded US welfare state as America gets healthy and lean again? Alas, we doubt it. But one can always hope.

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Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:45 | 2340226 Decolat
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Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:46 | 2340231 ACP
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"Mmmmm, pink slime." -Homer Simpson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:05 | 2340247 hedgeless_horseman
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Disintermediation, it's what's for dinner.

In a few months, we will be sending little Jughead off to freezer camp to stay with what is left of his older sister.  His mother, on the utter hand, will be providing us fresh raw milk, cream, butter, and cheese until about a month before she produces our next two sides of grass-fed beef.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:05 | 2340293 kekekekekekeke
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they're beautiful ^_^

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:03 | 2340745 Oh regional Indian
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So beautiful, that little Jughead needs to become veal. 

We have been sold the lie of our omni-vore "system". And as always, America leads the way in slaughter, cruelty and massive over-consumption. Think about how many of you have downed pink-slime over the years when there was no awareness.

This is what the industry does. Slip it out under FDA cover, get the masses addicted "chicken nuggets" Please.... think... and then deal with the fall-out. 

Hog containment operations pollute the air and water. So do large beef operations. Chickens.....hmmmmm....

And all that meat pollutes it's consumers.

If the world stopped it's mindless slaughter of animals, everything would change. Just like that.

But we live in cruel times and the instinct to dig one's heels in and say.... But I like iittttt....



Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:22 | 2340768 AldousHuxley
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McSlime special meal combo for $1.99 !


I'm lovin' it!


North Korea better expect some USAID "meat" donation from uncle sam for consolation prize in their rocket launch.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:07 | 2340823 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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At times like this I'm so happy to live in France

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:55 | 2340861 CompassionateFascist
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Yes, the more froggies who live in France...the better it is for us all.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:09 | 2340935 economics9698
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Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
You better watch out
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by
With bright knives he releaseth my soul
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
He converteth me to lamb cutlets
For lo,m he hath great power and great hunger
When cometh the day we lowly ones
Through quiet reflection and great dedication
Master the art of karate
Lo, we shall rise up
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:11 | 2340827 Oh regional Indian
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Highly highly recommended for everyone, read this, read her book.

Nothing is bad in moderation, done with respect and thought about. Just because somethign has been done one way for 100 years does not mean it is right. Most people's vision of what was is based on false history and learned behaviours and patterned memories.

Meat consumption, especially in the quantities done today is a big one. 

We are NOT, emphatically NOT who we have been conditioned into thinking we are.

Look at this correlation-causation proposition and tell me why it does not work.

The US consumes the most Meat AND Oil per capita in the world. The US is the most militarily agressive country in the world. it kills the most animals AND people in the world. And it has, especially for th epast 70 odd years.

I'd say if you graphed meat consumption with war/crime, something would leap out and bite you on the nose.

if it runs away from you, you were probably not meant to eat it. 

LAst but not least, it's much easier to quit somethign voluntarily rather than have it snatched by e-coli and salmonella and CJD.



Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:34 | 2340851 Fluffybunny
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"The US consumes the most Meat AND Oil per capita in the world. The US is the most militarily agressive country in the world. it kills the most animals AND people in the world. And it has, especially for th epast 70 odd years."



If anything, we need to eat more meat and bomb more towelheads, this is what makes us manly.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:22 | 2340880 AldousHuxley
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Some would say it is making American women manly as well with all of that meat injected with hormones.







Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:42 | 2341176 robobbob
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what don't you understand, you have to eat the growth hormones to counteract the effects of the soy, BPA, and fluoride?

geez, you have to keep up here.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:33 | 2341054 MassDecep
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My observations are opposite Fluffy; it appears the feminization of our country has made most docile.  

I mean, look how the general populace just rolls over in their sleep over NDAA and all the Orwellian legislation being made law. Thermo receipts are the biggest emitters of BPA.  

"The chemical is called bisphenol-a, or B.P.A., and is classified as a hormone disruptor. Studies have linked low-dose B.P.A. exposure with permanent changes to the genital tract, increased prostate weight, a decline in testosterone, creating breast cells predisposed to cancer, prostate cells more sensitive to hormones and cancer, and hyperactivity. Moreover, when ingested B.P.A. mimics the effects of estrogen."




Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:47 | 2341180 sessinpo
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The feminization is toward men while women are to be more aggressive. In other words, more equal or the same.  In regards to the NDAA and Orwellian legislation, that is apathy throughout society. A natural progression of a civilization is that newer generations who have not experienced the hardships of past generations become apathetic. They may read history, but very few understand it and realize it can happen again, even when it is happening right under their noses. As government grows, indoctrination of a nanny state is taught. A growing liberal culture that trusts, believes and wants a nanny state, not to mention a whole lot of ignorance. Put my statements together. Create docile men that won't/don't stand up to a growing police state. Add women that are told they are victims of a patriarchal society. You end up with what we have now and getting worse. Women are mostly docile by nature (except when fighting other women).


I love a good mud or jelly wrestling match between women in bikinis.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:03 | 2341231 tabasco71
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Haha, actually what I read was more docile men that won't stand up to anything, and then more aggressive women to bully them around keeping them busy painting the fence, etc.

As if women weren't already aggressive enough in that respect...


But, yes, you do end up with a fairly self-consumed population cell which is too busy being busy to actually notice or react to anything.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:13 | 2340980 tabasco71
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Sorry ORI, I've seen you say some decent stuff but this 'meat correlation' theory is bullshit.

Consider Brazil and Argentina - big meat consuming nations.  Not particularly aggressive.

Now if you are going to say its about the amounts of steriods pumped into farmed animals, then perhaps I'll listen to you a bit more.

But in any case, I'm following a vegan diet since Jan and I also started back playing ice hockey again.  I love kicking ass on the ice... so again.. I love kicking ass whether I am eating meat or not.

Infact, thinking again, your whole idea is bullshit... you gonna start letting serial killers and peodo's back onto the streets because it wasn't their fault, they just ate too much meat??

It's to do with how I am wired.  Its to do with how you are wired.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:53 | 2341016 Oh regional Indian
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Tabasco, are you serious? Brazil and Argentina.... have you ever been? Wrong turn in Beunos Aires after dark.....or Rio..... they are some of the roughest countries in the world.

Gang violence..... crazy. Cops kill shanty-town people like flies. Argentina and the great Disappearings.... on and on.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:46 | 2341050 tabasco71
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I believe wrong turns in certain parts of Florida, Chicago and New Orleans are just as dangerous as parts of Brasil and Argentina.  Indeed some parts of London will get you into trouble.  And don't tell me India (if thats where you are from) is a walk in the park.  So at that granular level, you can find trouble most places.

Additionally, I'd attribute that violence you mention above to poverty and desperation, not diet.


Anyway, I understood your post was suggesting that USA's overall globally aggressive tendencies were due to its overall focus on meat or 'meat' consumption.

I'm saying that's BS because while they love their churrasco's I don't see Brazilians stomping all over the world like the way the US does.

My point is again... they are wired that way.  Its a genetic thing.

I would refine that further and say that if Brasil found itself in the global position that the US does, I would expect its global manifesto might shift dramatically but thats a economic and political pressure, not a dietary one.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:02 | 2341229 GeezerGeek
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ORI writes that the U.S. "kills the most animals AND people in the world. And it has, especially for the past 70 odd years." So let's look back to 1940, 72 years ago, and see who was doing all the killing during those years.

Adolph Hitler: 6 million Jews and who knows how many others, including all the soldiers that died in WW II in Europe.

Mao Zedong: Tens of millions died thanks to this great Communist.

Pol Pot: Mao on a smaller scale, but only because he had a smaller country. Still, he scores in the millions.

Those were just some highlights. How many died due to tribal warfare in Africa? What about the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, or the Ibos and Hausas in Nigeria?

You are so wrong on this one. Sorry to have to point it out.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:12 | 2341433 tabasco71
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Here is the final nail...

In private conversations, Hitler often recited the benefits of eating raw vegetables, fruit, and grains, particularly for children and soldiers's_vegetarianism


ORI = pwned

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 12:21 | 2341968 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Meat corrupts and absolute meat corrupts absolutely. 

Is that right?  Someone help me here.  </sarc>

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:18 | 2341268 mr_T
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How much for 1 McRib?

How much for a much if u pour it in my hands.

McD's .. is gonna get u suckas..

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:16 | 2340831 Chupacabra
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You have a point, my Indian friend.  As a die-hard, macho western male, I appreciate the alternative perspective that you bring to the table.  May not always agree, but appreciate the perspective.  Cheers.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:29 | 2340843 Oh regional Indian
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Cheers Chupacabra, it's all about awareness. Choices then are in-formed. 

No hate here, if it comes across as such. I was a meat eater till 1995, an alcoholic till 2001....


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:37 | 2341287 hedgeless_horseman
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ORI, I hope you have a garden, a wheat field, and bake your own bread....

With Sara Lee® Delightful™ White Bread, you can enjoy a great tasting meal without feeling like you're missing out. Delightful™ bread gives you the taste and texture you love, but with only 45 calories per full-size slice. So go on, make yourself a delicious sandwich - you won't even notice the calories that are missing.



Why use expensive wheat, when you can use sawdust? That is right, cellulose, AKA sawdust, bitchezzz!!!! But it still costs the same. I see no inflation.

One manufacturer even added sawdust to replace the lost bran, calling it cellulose on the label and advertising it as "high-fiber" bread.






Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:43 | 2340978 Ghordius
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well put, chupacabra. ORI makes an important point: what we in the West consider "normal" meat consumption is a very modern thing.


According to Mr. Ford, when he revolutionized the production of cars with the famous Model T, he actually copied the new industrial methods used by the great NY slaughterhouses that started the "Great Beef Revolution".

So you could argue that refrigeration was the stepping stone to our mass-produced car, another modernity that everybody in the West takes as granted in our young, young world outlook.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:01 | 2341025 Oh regional Indian
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Excellent observation Ghordius. Very interesting, did not know that about Ford's "line" manufacturing method.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:53 | 2340858 CompassionateFascist
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India leads the way in poverty-striken, starving beggers crawling about the streets on all fours. While Sacred Cows parade around wearing garlands.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:05 | 2340869 Oh regional Indian
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2 points...

1) Have you ever been to India?

2) What you describe, the dystopia, is a gift our english over-lords left us. Westernization and India do not mix. Simple.

India was doing well enough as a primarily vegetarian nation. Now former chemical/monsanto/Cargill loving farmers are commiting suicides by the thousands, every year.

That was then. Now, MICKYD FRANCHISEE FTW.

Your capitalized post only shows the shallowness of yoru perceptions. You perhaps have the NatGeo perspective, a poisoned perspective if there ever was one.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:25 | 2340881 Maghreb
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I hate to say it but despite the respect i have for the subcontinent i always felt the sacred cow thing was devestating. This is an economics site so ill come from that angle. Fact is cows are an excellent resource and a good store of wealth. Look how many lessed advanced cultures used them as currency and how many places they formed the back bone of the economy. They also grow exponentially along with humanity if taken care of properly. The great injunction against killing cows almost feels like some of the really dystopian accusations levelled at various Green movements. There is and always have been institutionalized poverty in India due to the Dalit class.It feels like everything we rail against here, government legislation that traps the poor set in place by a preistly class working hand in hand with money lenders was in place in India a long time ago.

Then again maybe i overestimate the use of the cow. Those other Indians the American ones alot of them lived and died by the Buffalo.

I'll second you on the meat thing though. I wouldn't go vegetarian but we eat way too much all the time.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:42 | 2340890 Oh regional Indian
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Points well taken Maghreb. But it does not take an economist to understand that a Cow gives FAR more value over her lifetime in Dairy and associated products (Milk is amazing, no spoilage, all forms usable, butter, butter milk, cheese, the magical Ghee)....

So a cow was and should be considered a Giver. We did not domisticate them for slaughter. 

The Masai do not eat their cows, only drink their blood and worship them. Perhaps somethign to be learned there? :-)


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 04:27 | 2340914 learning2
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Just watched 'Perfume - The Story of A Murderer'...seems to jive with what's going on these days. Progress? Science? What has changed?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:49 | 2341355 rwe2late
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Oh Regional Indian

 I think the connection with social behavior is not so much with some ingredient in the meat, as the manner and purpose the animals are killed.

There is a reputed connection between serial murderers/psychopaths and the torture/killing of animals. They apparently practice on animals before moving on to human victims.

Similarly, some might argue, hunters learn to enjoy, and habituate themselves to the act of killing. That attitude could then be carried over to military and policing activity. The British used to recruit butchers to serve as sabre -wielding cavalry troopers.

The horrors of factory farming and feedlots is a result of the commodification of life forms, the primacy of the profit motive/value over all else. The suffering of the animals, or the effects upon workers are hardly considered. The costs of pollution are just something to have others pay else the bottom line be reduced. The same is true for the additives which may be harmful to the consumer.

What is good for business (aka profits) is what matters, all else be damned. That is the present primary source of US values, and rationalization for wars, greed, aggression, indifference to the suffering of others...

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:22 | 2341479 Oh regional Indian
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Very true Rwe2, that is why I said if anything is done with respect, awareness and in moderation, all good.

But profit is a relentless master and does not have a heart.

In fact, I admire HH and other farmers who grow and slaughter their own meat. it has a directness, an involvement and appreciation of what is happening before you.

Not so factory farming.


Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:07 | 2340295 Decolat
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Too much for a city dweller. However, I could go for some backyard chicken breast.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:44 | 2340420 ihedgemyhedges
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After 18 years of marriage, I could go for any breast................................

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:17 | 2340832 Chupacabra
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Who voted this down??   Apparently there are three women on ZH!  lol

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:21 | 2340837 TruthInSunshine
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3 a cups.

a cups can be perky, ladies (nawwww, not really).

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:08 | 2340932 Overflow-admin
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Nope. "On the Internet, men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents waiting to get you."

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:13 | 2340318 robertocarlos
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You think that cow doesn't know what you are doing with her off-spring?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:49 | 2340415 HamyWanger
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It's not that thing which troubles me, it's the fact people are allowed to own farm animals outside of regulations and vet controls. It leaves the door open to animal abuse, the spreading of diseases, etc. 

It should be outlawed in every State, just like homeschooling, dairy milk and other aberrations of another age. 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:52 | 2340446 knukles
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Oh please fucking die.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:02 | 2340476 ShankyS
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Stay out of my garden. 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:19 | 2340527 TWSceptic
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Electorate like you are the source of all problems, seriously.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:40 | 2340593 mr. mirbach
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Hi HarryWanger - your trolling has been missed!

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:20 | 2340681 derek_vineyard
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 people that intentionally try to antagonize others online just want attention

 actually, hamy probably is a gold bug with keen sense of saccasm

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:58 | 2340862 CompassionateFascist
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No, that would be Million Dollar Bonus; but HW is indeed an attention-whore.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:50 | 2340800 Bunga Bunga
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Home reproduction should be outlawed in every state too, because it leaves the door open to infiltrating the United States genetic pool with terrorist genes. Every women in the United States should receive only federally approved genetic material, all newborn should be subjected to mandatory genetic testing.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:18 | 2340833 Chupacabra
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Hamy, I voted you up, apparently the new breed does not appreciate schtick

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 12:21 | 2341967 CoolBeans
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Surely you jest via an inferior form of sarcasm.

I'd pit my "working far above public school grade level" homeschoolers against you anyday.

If life were a baseball game, I can hear 'em now..."Move up everyone...easy out, easy out...."

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:19 | 2340336 fuu
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"freezer camp"

<golf clap>

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:21 | 2340342 ZeroPower
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Is it true you  never get attached to these animals since you consume them later?

I do love me some premium beef... an old uncle on a farm always said never to get too close to an animal unless it's your pet.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:24 | 2340355 Hulk
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Just don't name them and you will be fine...

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:34 | 2340367 hedgeless_horseman
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We are attached to our animals.  They are beautiful creations, each with their own personality.  However, it is never a problem, because farming comes naturally to humans, almost like we have been killing, butchering, and eating animals for thousands of years.

PS:  Neither my wife, nor I, grew up on a farm.  We started late in life.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:48 | 2340426 HamyWanger
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"almost like we have been killing, butchering, and eating animals for thousands of years"

Slavery has been commonplace for thousands of years too, before the Industrial Revolution rendered it mostly useless. 

Eating meat was understandable in times of scarcity, but now? 

And I say that as a meat eater myself. What you do is immoral, don't deny it and don't try to find justifications.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:51 | 2340440 Dr. Engali
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Better be careful Hamy... Trolls have been disappearing around here lately. Rumor has it that Robo was turned into pink slime.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:12 | 2340510 Rahm
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What is the born on date for MDB to join him?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:25 | 2340549 TWSceptic
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And killing plants is not immoral? What exactly is the difference between killing a living plant and a living animal? Oh you didn't think about the fact that plants are living organisms did you? Your mind not developed enough to understand these issues?


Maybe you should just stop eating altogether.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:20 | 2340836 Chupacabra
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I heard a plant scream once.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:58 | 2340899 saoldric
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Arrogant Worms - Carrot Juice is Murder

song starts at :52

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:53 | 2341018 gookempucky
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must of been the green slime within blankfeins head as he was assimilated by the pod.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:52 | 2341366 General Decline
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"And killing plants is not immoral? ".
All I eat is salt. I don't have to kill anything for my diet. Sure, my blood pressure is a little high and I'm thirsty all the time but my conscience is clear.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:32 | 2340705 Greyzone
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Humans evolved as meat eaters. We're omnivores, eating both plants and meat. The "vegan" movement tries to deny basic evolution. You, on the other hand, appear totally ignorant of evolution and every other science.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:20 | 2340938 Overflow-admin
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Ever searched about homo sapiens sapiens? Diet: mainly grean leafs and red meat, a little of some seasonal fruits and very little grain.


Is it moral to eat shit because it sustains you better than eating nothing? Is it moral to kill the soil liveforms to supplant them with fertilizers? Is it moral feeding animals with animal flesh, or grain, when it's not part of its natural diet? Is that moral to shoot cattle with antibiotics and medication to avoid the adverse effects of grain feeding (all chronic: osteoporosis, immune system weakening, arterial inflamation, etc.)?


Is it moral to turn your brain off? Just eat your corn and die.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:45 | 2340965 Oh regional Indian
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The fact that you can even say the last line in your post, anonymously (coward), says a lot about you. 

Die because you disagree? I'm sure you eat a quarter pounder a day, which sadly makes you the high-proabaility die-off victim.

Very strange, things people say as if they mean it. 

Words are powerful my friend, watch them.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:17 | 2341132 tarsubil
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I'm so confused. I thought a quarter pounder wasn't actually meat. Maybe it is the Americans eat too much meat-like substances?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:47 | 2340966 Oh regional Indian
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Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:13 | 2341256 GeezerGeek
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Is eating meat immoral? Does that statement apply to the Venus Flytrap? What about lions and hyenas and vultures and all the rest of the carnivorous world? Or do you place mankind on a higher level of morality than the rest of the animal and plant kingdoms?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 12:16 | 2341955 CoolBeans
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So, you're one of those veggie eaters who constantly reminds others that you are better than them, I'll bet.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:35 | 2340385 dogbreath
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rib-eye is an affectionate name

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:50 | 2340435 dogbreath
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must be a real sensitive soul that junked me

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:21 | 2340839 Chupacabra
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My pet is named bife de chorizo

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:56 | 2340451 knukles
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Here, Moo.  Come here, Moo.  Good little bovine, Moo.  She's soooo cute.  I think we oughta change her name to Spungeiform.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:08 | 2340460 hedgeless_horseman
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...change her name to Spungeiform

You do understand what grass-fed means, right?  All our cattle eat is grass, no time at a feed lot, no "protein" from other cattle, and so no BSE.  My madness comes almost entirely from the ignorance and apathy of my some booze.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:23 | 2340840 TruthInSunshine
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Save the grain for the hooch, bitchez.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:52 | 2341605 toady
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We were just having this argument a few days ago...

Most of the males were against name, you would get too attached, etc.

The females insisted, saying ' what's wrong with a little attachment? '

So we named them breakfast, lunch, & dinner.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 12:36 | 2342017 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Just don't name them and you will be fine...

Silly me -- I thought he was referring to the WIFE of eighteen years...

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:36 | 2340386 Dr. Engali
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Do like I do. Go hunting for deer meat. It's cheap it's lean and it's all natural.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:50 | 2340434 ihedgemyhedges
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Cheap, lean and natural eh???  Sounds like my wife prior to putting the ring on the finger...................

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:52 | 2340442 Dr. Engali
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Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:25 | 2340542 SgtSchultz
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Tag deadlines loom for Fall hunts.  Not sure how many realize that in most states you can't just pull an "Uncle Jimbo" from South Park and run out to shoot snimals.  It takes planning.

I submitted for antelope, deer, elk, bear, and big horn sheep trying to get into zones suggested by a guide. Its anyones guess if I draw a tag.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:51 | 2340617 SubjectivObject
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Get all the deer you want in Texas, just drive at limit speed down any west or south Texas road after twilight and hit your limit in minutes.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:33 | 2340953 minosgal
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(don't try this in a small car -- 'free' venison can get expensive)

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:09 | 2340757 jonjon831983
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As long as there's an understanding that it is just a one time thing.  Don't call back afterwards.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:42 | 2341172 Red Heeler
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Do you know the difference between a redneck and a good old boy?

A good old boy practices animal husbandry but a redneck becomes emotionally attached.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:51 | 2341197 1100-TACTICAL-12
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We butcherd a hog about the time the pink slime was breaking. Noone had any trouble eating my corn ad alfalfa fed pork. even my kids love it and we raised it from the size of a puppy to #400. on another note we have been giving a friend fresh eggs they have a young child now whe they run out of our free rangers annd try to give the kid store bought eggs the kid spits them out.about 4mths old i think . go figure. 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:16 | 2341263 GeezerGeek
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You give fresh eggs to friends? I'm telling the FDA on you. Expect a knock on the door around 2 AM.

Thu, 09/27/2012 - 16:10 | 2836607 debtandtaxes
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Kids have good taste if they are fed right. My 6 yr old wouldn't touch McD's or soda pop until corrupted by his schoolmates. *sigh* And still wont eat processed food at all. Prefers rabbit meat a d venison!

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 17:25 | 2342778 dolly madison
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Is it true you  never get attached to these animals since you consume them later?

We only use rabbits and chickens for meat.  I am always sweet to them when they are alive.  When they are babies, I baby them.  It is better that way.  It is best that they have a great life while they are alive.  I don't name them though.  I find that knowing my meat makes me especially careful to not waste the meat.  I know what they gave for me and my family.

I am sickened by the treatment of factory farm animals, being hung upside down on converyer systems before they are dead and many other atrocities.  I know my animals have a much better life while they are alive.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:35 | 2340381 Agent P
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Ironic to have okra on the plate for "the other slimes" post.  I really wish I could like that slimey stuff, but I just can't do it...unless it's in gumbo.

Beef shank looks damn good though...poor little Jughead's sister.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:45 | 2340411 hedgeless_horseman
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Okra, "the other slimes" indeed.  Funny!

Stir-fry the okra in butter with hot peppers and molasses, then decide.

Those are beef ribs, pressure cooked, with a little bourbon.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:06 | 2340489 Agent P
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What time is dinner tomorrow night?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:12 | 2340512 hedgeless_horseman
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Dinner is at 7:30pm almost every night.  We have been working through Olney's recipes.  We always love to have guests.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:17 | 2340523 wee-weed up
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Freshly picked (even frozen is OK) baby okra sautéd in bacon drippings are to die for! No slime!

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:47 | 2341187 Red Heeler
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Or you can steam younger pods (4") for about seven minutes. No slime, no nutrient loss, and the flavor is wonderful.

Still, you can't beat a good pot of gumbo.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:28 | 2340566 Milestones
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If you boil it--slime. Put a a little vinegar in the watert and the slime will stop. Fried as in the picture--does not happen. Use some Worcestershire sauce on it when it is fried. dip in flour and corn meal and put some cooking oil in the pan.             Milestones

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:58 | 2340742 FrankDrakman
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Ironic to have okra on the plate for "the other slimes" post.  I really wish I could like that slimey stuff, but I just can't do it

What I miss about Church's Chicken disappearing from my part of the Great White North is the deep fried okra. As a wiser man than I once said "(North) Americans will eat anything, as long as it's dipped in batter and deep fried, so it looks and tastes like a french fry".

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:39 | 2341068 SWRichmond
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Ironic to have okra on the plate for "the other slimes" post.  I really wish I could like that slimey stuff, but I just can't do it...unless it's in gumbo.

Okra is the god-awfulest stuff ever.  That, and lima beans.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:58 | 2340464 alexwest
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sorry pal, but on first pic looks like a rat on stick


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:34 | 2340782 Braverdave
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When zombies roam the earth you will be grateful for a mouthful of rat.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:06 | 2340484 ebworthen
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I love milk, veal, and a good Filet Mignon.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:52 | 2340620 flyme
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Nice looking cow. There's nothing like your own grass-fed beef! People nowdays are so far removed from where their food comes from and what's involved in raising it, and processing it.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:16 | 2340940 Pinktip
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HH,  What breed?  Is that a R&W Holstein?  We have 12 head, Brood cow is a Jersey/Normande cross.

Just freshend in March with a Hereford heifer.

She first calved an Angus bull Sept 10' and I bought a R&W bull calf at the same time.  He's pure red.

Identical to your calf.

Both are going this fall, 2yrs old, grass fed. 1200lbs.

I've admired your Homesteading postings.  Thanks


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:42 | 2341293 hedgeless_horseman
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Our's are pure Milking Shorthorn.  You are welcome.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:36 | 2341060 SWRichmond
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I am so mfing jealous, you have no idea.  My suburban county here won't even allow chickens.  I am rapidly expanding my garden of real food, however, am already eating romaine and spinach from it, first crop of radishes are coming in right now, buttercrunch is picking up speed, tomatoes are in the ground and established, potatoes are exploding (I've never seen anything grow so fast, ever), waiting on green beans to poke through (they get planted deep), got a few brussel's sprouts scattered about, and a few patches of onions.

I did snow peas last year but none of them ever made it to the table; low yield, and extremely tasty right off the vine.  I'd grab a handful of them on my way to the truck in the morning and munch them.  They're a bit of trouble, take up a lot of space, and harvest time is brief then they're gone.

Putting in more romaine (transplants) this weekend.  I don't eat processed meat "products;" I eat cuts of meat, local when I can get it, no canned vegetables, and I almost never eat in restaurant / takeout.  No "lunch meat," no subs; having quit it some time ago, if I eat it now it lays in my stomach like a fricking hand grenade.

Anyone who has never pulled a fresh potato out of the ground and eaten it: I genuinely feel sorry for you.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:58 | 2340276 Eireann go Brach
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The big fat disgusting obese cunts that wobble around the streets of America will find another slime to eat, just as fast as they can scoff down 12 donuts in one setting!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:49 | 2340432 Taint Boil
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Don't sugar coat it  - just tell us how ya really feel

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:45 | 2340227 centerline
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lips and assholes, bitches.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:53 | 2340260 John Wilmot
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Sounds like Steve Liesman at a Goldman board meeting....

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:41 | 2340960 hamurobby
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If you were to ask what ws for dinner around my grandfather, he would say "mule lips and rice". After visualizing that, anything grandma put on the table looked delicious.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:47 | 2340228 TruthInSunshine
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Let me tell you something most of you probably know, but that some of you might not.

Processed meats are pretty much the worse thing you can eat.


Lunch meats, hot dogs, anything with nitrates, and especially - pastrami and the meat & chemicals that they use to make gyros and the other gyros-like products. There are more chemicals in that shit than some would believe.


Do not eat processed meats, bitchez.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:49 | 2340242 robertocarlos
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Rib-eye is 36 dollars a kilo at Safeway.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:52 | 2340257 UP Forester
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Venison is 30cents a round and a hundred yard drag at my store....

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:24 | 2340357 lemonobrien
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i got a whole rabbit for $12 a pound. cost $28 total.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:29 | 2340371 Caviar Emptor
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Gopher anyone? Yours for $15/lb. While it lasts

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:40 | 2340401 Decolat
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Quail are delicious, and virtually a pest in some parts of my town. 


Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:36 | 2340507 Braverdave
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Delicious indeed. They are everywhere in my town. A covey ran across the road on my way to work this morning and up at my parents house (just out of town) it is some sort of quail capitol. Planning on putting some in the smoker soon.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:39 | 2340587 Braverdave
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And does anybody know why quail wait for a car to come along before they try to cross the road?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:01 | 2340743 FrankDrakman
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They're playing a game of chicken?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:06 | 2340490 ihedgemyhedges
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The dude from Love Boat??????????????

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:04 | 2340818 Braverdave
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Around here rabbits are free (excluding plinking costs) but even if I pay for one its way less than that.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:51 | 2340253 krispkritter
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Pretty much anything 'processed' is guaranteed to disagree with your body and Mother Nature in general. I mean, if they can treat byproducts with ammonia, color and flavor it into a 'whatNugget' and sell it in every Supermarket going, I'm betting your body is going "WTF?!!" once it hits the stomach. I'm surprised the FDA and DOE doesn't classify the typical crap as 'Hazardous Waste' and charge you a fine for illegal dumping should you shit next to a tree on your property...

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:25 | 2340313 TruthInSunshine
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Buffalo, grass fed beef, venison, ostrich, wild turkey, elk - it's all good as long as it comes from a health animal and the animal ate clean food (I'm not a fan of bear; way too many parasites and the taste is really gamey, IMO).

It's when industry starts stripping meat and 'reconstituting it,' whether it's hamburger, chicken paste (for mcnugget shits) or chemical laden lunch meat, where all the toxins and crap get introduced (and also, where all the e. coli, listeria and salmonella profilerate).

Pheasant, quail & elk is out of this world.

Those of you who have eaten spit roasted quail and properly prepared elk or vension backstrap know what I'm talking about. Eat a nice split quail breast that's been marinated lightly and cooked over an open flame and you'll never miss factory farmed, artificially inseminated created (because these genetic freaks with massive breasts can't screw each other, as nature would have it; it's physically impossible) chicken again.

One of the tragedies of the story of America is that we didn't continue to foster bison herds that Native Americans depended on for protein, iron and amino acids. Bison is nutrient dense, low in saturated fat and LDL cholesterol, loaded with protein, iron and minerals, and Bison do not destroy the roots of grazing areas like beef cattle do. And buffalo tastes great.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:33 | 2340377 hairball48
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Right on TruthInSunshine!! We have good meat here in NW Montana. Elk, moose, both whitetail and mule deer, wild turkey, grouse. It's all good eating. I'm with you on bear though. Bears are fun to watch while hiking though :)

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:34 | 2340578 TruthInSunshine
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Ahh, I forgot about Moose.

Montana is amazingly beautiful. They don't brag about it much, and I don't blame them. They're trying to keep the coasters (now choking in their own effluent) out.

These are gifts to mankind. Dispatch with them quickly and humanely, harvest as much of what they offer as you can in a clean, precise fashion, and appreciate the bounty.

Rare elk loin with red wine reduction and any form of tart berry compote, bitchez.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:52 | 2340735 quartshort
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Second that motion. North Idaho sucks. Stay away. Please.
Never seen 45 turkies and 7 does in my back yard every day. Fan turns brown and there are a few less. Knowing all my neighbors is a downfall too. One way in/out. Wild fire is the only thing of concern. Tree management fixes that right quick and keeps me warm at the same time. Best of luck to you city folk.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:41 | 2340406 Dr. Engali
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I'm a venison person myself. It's much more fulfilling to stalk your own meal with a bow than it is to pick it off a shelf in the store.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:53 | 2340448 hairball48
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Right on Dr E. I love the challenge of bowhunting with my custom recurves!!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:02 | 2340477 Dr. Engali
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I use a Hoyt compound but I'm ordering a Black Widow recurve this summer.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:49 | 2340611 TruthInSunshine
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I love the spirit of bow hunting and may take it up one day. It's Zen in the Art of Human Body Maintenance.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:08 | 2340471 knukles
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I myself prefer pussy.  RAw pussy.  Juicy, tender, moist raw pussy.  The older stuff can be a bit gamey and might be said to be a acqiured taste, but nonetheless, it's unique, gluten, carbohydrate and fat free with no synthetic hormones added.  Most of the time.  Eat pussy.  It's natural.


Tyler, have you any idea whatsofuckingever what you have single handedly created here? 
An open thread about meat. 
Pink meat. 
Slimey pink meat. 
And then your reference tag is Recovery?!?!?!?!
(Kudos on the circles within circles as per Fight Club, BTW)

And no, don't give me any "golly gee wiz, I never expected something like this" shit to happen, unintended consequences and readership bailouts.  After all, you are the CEO of this planet and just as we'd expect Dimon or Corzine to take what's coming to them, you should so, also. 
Jesus God, man. 
You've created a monster.

Thank you :)

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:09 | 2340499 dick cheneys ghost
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i like mine shaved

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:05 | 2340651 bigkahuna
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Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:10 | 2340661 Likstane
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All I ever get is re-hypothecated, probably Hulks's old account.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:13 | 2340668 Ima anal sphincter
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Speaking on that subject, I have not seen hide nor hair of Trimmed Hedge on this site lately. It SURE would of been nice to get to know that one better.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:53 | 2340736 wee-weed up
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I myself prefer pussy.


Try tuna... same smell... and no committment involved.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:22 | 2340538 Braverdave
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Ditto on the bear but I do have a friend who hunts for bear and makes the most amazing pepperoni with it but I say he cheats when he adds pork. He says bears are pigs with fur.

Mostly venison for us up here and sometimes moose when my uncle gets a ticket. Pheasant and quail and a rabbit now and then. I love buffalo too and while it comes from my local butcher the herd is less than an hour drive from where I live

I got some ice fishing for lake trout in over the last few months but am glad winter is mostly melted and we can get the boat ready for the spring/summer season.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:32 | 2340624 TruthInSunshine
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Hogs taste way better than bear.

The Spaniards know a thing or two about pigs....especially the black iberians that eat acorns. That's some primo eating, bitchez:

Italian sopressata (the really spicy, dry kind that's favored in the south) is the shizznit, too. This color and texture:

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:53 | 2340739 Braverdave
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Sopressata ... mmm!!!

Friends of mine have a sausage kitchen and they make landjaeger, bierbeisser, mennonite (farmer) double smoke sausage (and even chorizo {nodding to the iberians} now and then).


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:44 | 2341075 SWRichmond
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Grouse is the best meat I've ever had. 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:46 | 2340229 Edelweiss
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  "pink's what's for dinner". 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:46 | 2340230 Bárðarbunga
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Soylent Slime

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:51 | 2340250 ACP
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Soylent slime would have less fat and more protein, except for soylent green slime, which would cause the consumer to become fat and apathetic, due to its source.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:56 | 2340269 earleflorida
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wait for it

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:08 | 2340300 ACP
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You're right. I'm already feeling fatter and more apathetic. Holy shit!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:41 | 2340404 williambanzai7
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Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:01 | 2340639 palmereldritch
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 It's the New FedMeat!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:46 | 2340234 krispkritter
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I eat 'pink' but it ain't beef and it ain't what the Beef Council is pushing. And I'm pretty sure I'm not getting Mad Cow Disease...Mad Mother-in-Law Disease is a different story...

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