Meat (sic) The Other Slimes

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The massive grass roots campaign over the topic of "pink slime" which seemingly came out of nowhere, and led to the bankruptcy of the company producing the substance, shows just why product branding can be such a profitable industry. Had the company taken a hint from the Goldman playbook and dubbed the peculiar substance an "Asymmetric Meat Initiative" all would have been forgotten in days, if not hours. Unfortunately, the mechanical process of "lean finely textured beef", aka pink slime, is just the beginning. As ProPublica shows, after pink slime, there comes Mechanically Separated Meat, aka "White Slime", and then Advanced Meat Recovery. And if recent history is a guide, any entities that have an equity stake in these last two processes should be afraid, very afraid, because the fate that befell the first, is about to visit the other two, in the process making such other 'delicacies" as bologna, hot dogs, taco filling, and meatballs surge in price once the traditional cheap "filler" substance is taken away by the same people who consume said meat byproducts in droves, in the process likely ending the concept of the dollar menu for good as restaurants have no choice but to resort to quality food. Ironically, will fat America itself, terrified by concepts such a colored slime, be responsible for its own weening from some of the worst products on earth, and in the process raise the price of food, and force itself to eat less? Will the end of the "slimes" be the one savior of the massively underfunded US welfare state as America gets healthy and lean again? Alas, we doubt it. But one can always hope.

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Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:45 | 2340226 Decolat
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Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:46 | 2340231 ACP
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"Mmmmm, pink slime." -Homer Simpson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:05 | 2340247 hedgeless_horseman
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Disintermediation, it's what's for dinner.

In a few months, we will be sending little Jughead off to freezer camp to stay with what is left of his older sister.  His mother, on the utter hand, will be providing us fresh raw milk, cream, butter, and cheese until about a month before she produces our next two sides of grass-fed beef.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:05 | 2340293 kekekekekekeke
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they're beautiful ^_^

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:03 | 2340745 Oh regional Indian
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So beautiful, that little Jughead needs to become veal. 

We have been sold the lie of our omni-vore "system". And as always, America leads the way in slaughter, cruelty and massive over-consumption. Think about how many of you have downed pink-slime over the years when there was no awareness.

This is what the industry does. Slip it out under FDA cover, get the masses addicted "chicken nuggets" Please.... think... and then deal with the fall-out. 

Hog containment operations pollute the air and water. So do large beef operations. Chickens.....hmmmmm....

And all that meat pollutes it's consumers.

If the world stopped it's mindless slaughter of animals, everything would change. Just like that.

But we live in cruel times and the instinct to dig one's heels in and say.... But I like iittttt....



Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:22 | 2340768 AldousHuxley
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McSlime special meal combo for $1.99 !


I'm lovin' it!


North Korea better expect some USAID "meat" donation from uncle sam for consolation prize in their rocket launch.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:07 | 2340823 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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At times like this I'm so happy to live in France

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:55 | 2340861 CompassionateFascist
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Yes, the more froggies who live in France...the better it is for us all.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:09 | 2340935 economics9698
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Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
You better watch out
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by
With bright knives he releaseth my soul
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
He converteth me to lamb cutlets
For lo,m he hath great power and great hunger
When cometh the day we lowly ones
Through quiet reflection and great dedication
Master the art of karate
Lo, we shall rise up
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:11 | 2340827 Oh regional Indian
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Highly highly recommended for everyone, read this, read her book.

Nothing is bad in moderation, done with respect and thought about. Just because somethign has been done one way for 100 years does not mean it is right. Most people's vision of what was is based on false history and learned behaviours and patterned memories.

Meat consumption, especially in the quantities done today is a big one. 

We are NOT, emphatically NOT who we have been conditioned into thinking we are.

Look at this correlation-causation proposition and tell me why it does not work.

The US consumes the most Meat AND Oil per capita in the world. The US is the most militarily agressive country in the world. it kills the most animals AND people in the world. And it has, especially for th epast 70 odd years.

I'd say if you graphed meat consumption with war/crime, something would leap out and bite you on the nose.

if it runs away from you, you were probably not meant to eat it. 

LAst but not least, it's much easier to quit somethign voluntarily rather than have it snatched by e-coli and salmonella and CJD.



Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:34 | 2340851 Fluffybunny
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"The US consumes the most Meat AND Oil per capita in the world. The US is the most militarily agressive country in the world. it kills the most animals AND people in the world. And it has, especially for th epast 70 odd years."



If anything, we need to eat more meat and bomb more towelheads, this is what makes us manly.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:22 | 2340880 AldousHuxley
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Some would say it is making American women manly as well with all of that meat injected with hormones.







Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:42 | 2341176 robobbob
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what don't you understand, you have to eat the growth hormones to counteract the effects of the soy, BPA, and fluoride?

geez, you have to keep up here.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:33 | 2341054 MassDecep
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My observations are opposite Fluffy; it appears the feminization of our country has made most docile.  

I mean, look how the general populace just rolls over in their sleep over NDAA and all the Orwellian legislation being made law. Thermo receipts are the biggest emitters of BPA.  

"The chemical is called bisphenol-a, or B.P.A., and is classified as a hormone disruptor. Studies have linked low-dose B.P.A. exposure with permanent changes to the genital tract, increased prostate weight, a decline in testosterone, creating breast cells predisposed to cancer, prostate cells more sensitive to hormones and cancer, and hyperactivity. Moreover, when ingested B.P.A. mimics the effects of estrogen."




Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:47 | 2341180 sessinpo
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The feminization is toward men while women are to be more aggressive. In other words, more equal or the same.  In regards to the NDAA and Orwellian legislation, that is apathy throughout society. A natural progression of a civilization is that newer generations who have not experienced the hardships of past generations become apathetic. They may read history, but very few understand it and realize it can happen again, even when it is happening right under their noses. As government grows, indoctrination of a nanny state is taught. A growing liberal culture that trusts, believes and wants a nanny state, not to mention a whole lot of ignorance. Put my statements together. Create docile men that won't/don't stand up to a growing police state. Add women that are told they are victims of a patriarchal society. You end up with what we have now and getting worse. Women are mostly docile by nature (except when fighting other women).


I love a good mud or jelly wrestling match between women in bikinis.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:03 | 2341231 tabasco71
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Haha, actually what I read was more docile men that won't stand up to anything, and then more aggressive women to bully them around keeping them busy painting the fence, etc.

As if women weren't already aggressive enough in that respect...


But, yes, you do end up with a fairly self-consumed population cell which is too busy being busy to actually notice or react to anything.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:13 | 2340980 tabasco71
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Sorry ORI, I've seen you say some decent stuff but this 'meat correlation' theory is bullshit.

Consider Brazil and Argentina - big meat consuming nations.  Not particularly aggressive.

Now if you are going to say its about the amounts of steriods pumped into farmed animals, then perhaps I'll listen to you a bit more.

But in any case, I'm following a vegan diet since Jan and I also started back playing ice hockey again.  I love kicking ass on the ice... so again.. I love kicking ass whether I am eating meat or not.

Infact, thinking again, your whole idea is bullshit... you gonna start letting serial killers and peodo's back onto the streets because it wasn't their fault, they just ate too much meat??

It's to do with how I am wired.  Its to do with how you are wired.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:53 | 2341016 Oh regional Indian
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Tabasco, are you serious? Brazil and Argentina.... have you ever been? Wrong turn in Beunos Aires after dark.....or Rio..... they are some of the roughest countries in the world.

Gang violence..... crazy. Cops kill shanty-town people like flies. Argentina and the great Disappearings.... on and on.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:46 | 2341050 tabasco71
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I believe wrong turns in certain parts of Florida, Chicago and New Orleans are just as dangerous as parts of Brasil and Argentina.  Indeed some parts of London will get you into trouble.  And don't tell me India (if thats where you are from) is a walk in the park.  So at that granular level, you can find trouble most places.

Additionally, I'd attribute that violence you mention above to poverty and desperation, not diet.


Anyway, I understood your post was suggesting that USA's overall globally aggressive tendencies were due to its overall focus on meat or 'meat' consumption.

I'm saying that's BS because while they love their churrasco's I don't see Brazilians stomping all over the world like the way the US does.

My point is again... they are wired that way.  Its a genetic thing.

I would refine that further and say that if Brasil found itself in the global position that the US does, I would expect its global manifesto might shift dramatically but thats a economic and political pressure, not a dietary one.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:02 | 2341229 GeezerGeek
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ORI writes that the U.S. "kills the most animals AND people in the world. And it has, especially for the past 70 odd years." So let's look back to 1940, 72 years ago, and see who was doing all the killing during those years.

Adolph Hitler: 6 million Jews and who knows how many others, including all the soldiers that died in WW II in Europe.

Mao Zedong: Tens of millions died thanks to this great Communist.

Pol Pot: Mao on a smaller scale, but only because he had a smaller country. Still, he scores in the millions.

Those were just some highlights. How many died due to tribal warfare in Africa? What about the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, or the Ibos and Hausas in Nigeria?

You are so wrong on this one. Sorry to have to point it out.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:12 | 2341433 tabasco71
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Here is the final nail...

In private conversations, Hitler often recited the benefits of eating raw vegetables, fruit, and grains, particularly for children and soldiers's_vegetarianism


ORI = pwned

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 12:21 | 2341968 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Meat corrupts and absolute meat corrupts absolutely. 

Is that right?  Someone help me here.  </sarc>

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:18 | 2341268 mr_T
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How much for 1 McRib?

How much for a much if u pour it in my hands.

McD's .. is gonna get u suckas..

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:16 | 2340831 Chupacabra
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You have a point, my Indian friend.  As a die-hard, macho western male, I appreciate the alternative perspective that you bring to the table.  May not always agree, but appreciate the perspective.  Cheers.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:29 | 2340843 Oh regional Indian
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Cheers Chupacabra, it's all about awareness. Choices then are in-formed. 

No hate here, if it comes across as such. I was a meat eater till 1995, an alcoholic till 2001....


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:37 | 2341287 hedgeless_horseman
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ORI, I hope you have a garden, a wheat field, and bake your own bread....

With Sara Lee® Delightful™ White Bread, you can enjoy a great tasting meal without feeling like you're missing out. Delightful™ bread gives you the taste and texture you love, but with only 45 calories per full-size slice. So go on, make yourself a delicious sandwich - you won't even notice the calories that are missing.



Why use expensive wheat, when you can use sawdust? That is right, cellulose, AKA sawdust, bitchezzz!!!! But it still costs the same. I see no inflation.

One manufacturer even added sawdust to replace the lost bran, calling it cellulose on the label and advertising it as "high-fiber" bread.






Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:43 | 2340978 Ghordius
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well put, chupacabra. ORI makes an important point: what we in the West consider "normal" meat consumption is a very modern thing.


According to Mr. Ford, when he revolutionized the production of cars with the famous Model T, he actually copied the new industrial methods used by the great NY slaughterhouses that started the "Great Beef Revolution".

So you could argue that refrigeration was the stepping stone to our mass-produced car, another modernity that everybody in the West takes as granted in our young, young world outlook.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:01 | 2341025 Oh regional Indian
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Excellent observation Ghordius. Very interesting, did not know that about Ford's "line" manufacturing method.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:53 | 2340858 CompassionateFascist
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India leads the way in poverty-striken, starving beggers crawling about the streets on all fours. While Sacred Cows parade around wearing garlands.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:05 | 2340869 Oh regional Indian
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2 points...

1) Have you ever been to India?

2) What you describe, the dystopia, is a gift our english over-lords left us. Westernization and India do not mix. Simple.

India was doing well enough as a primarily vegetarian nation. Now former chemical/monsanto/Cargill loving farmers are commiting suicides by the thousands, every year.

That was then. Now, MICKYD FRANCHISEE FTW.

Your capitalized post only shows the shallowness of yoru perceptions. You perhaps have the NatGeo perspective, a poisoned perspective if there ever was one.


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:25 | 2340881 Maghreb
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I hate to say it but despite the respect i have for the subcontinent i always felt the sacred cow thing was devestating. This is an economics site so ill come from that angle. Fact is cows are an excellent resource and a good store of wealth. Look how many lessed advanced cultures used them as currency and how many places they formed the back bone of the economy. They also grow exponentially along with humanity if taken care of properly. The great injunction against killing cows almost feels like some of the really dystopian accusations levelled at various Green movements. There is and always have been institutionalized poverty in India due to the Dalit class.It feels like everything we rail against here, government legislation that traps the poor set in place by a preistly class working hand in hand with money lenders was in place in India a long time ago.

Then again maybe i overestimate the use of the cow. Those other Indians the American ones alot of them lived and died by the Buffalo.

I'll second you on the meat thing though. I wouldn't go vegetarian but we eat way too much all the time.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:42 | 2340890 Oh regional Indian
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Points well taken Maghreb. But it does not take an economist to understand that a Cow gives FAR more value over her lifetime in Dairy and associated products (Milk is amazing, no spoilage, all forms usable, butter, butter milk, cheese, the magical Ghee)....

So a cow was and should be considered a Giver. We did not domisticate them for slaughter. 

The Masai do not eat their cows, only drink their blood and worship them. Perhaps somethign to be learned there? :-)


Fri, 04/13/2012 - 04:27 | 2340914 learning2
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Just watched 'Perfume - The Story of A Murderer'...seems to jive with what's going on these days. Progress? Science? What has changed?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:49 | 2341355 rwe2late
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Oh Regional Indian

 I think the connection with social behavior is not so much with some ingredient in the meat, as the manner and purpose the animals are killed.

There is a reputed connection between serial murderers/psychopaths and the torture/killing of animals. They apparently practice on animals before moving on to human victims.

Similarly, some might argue, hunters learn to enjoy, and habituate themselves to the act of killing. That attitude could then be carried over to military and policing activity. The British used to recruit butchers to serve as sabre -wielding cavalry troopers.

The horrors of factory farming and feedlots is a result of the commodification of life forms, the primacy of the profit motive/value over all else. The suffering of the animals, or the effects upon workers are hardly considered. The costs of pollution are just something to have others pay else the bottom line be reduced. The same is true for the additives which may be harmful to the consumer.

What is good for business (aka profits) is what matters, all else be damned. That is the present primary source of US values, and rationalization for wars, greed, aggression, indifference to the suffering of others...

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:22 | 2341479 Oh regional Indian
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Very true Rwe2, that is why I said if anything is done with respect, awareness and in moderation, all good.

But profit is a relentless master and does not have a heart.

In fact, I admire HH and other farmers who grow and slaughter their own meat. it has a directness, an involvement and appreciation of what is happening before you.

Not so factory farming.


Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:07 | 2340295 Decolat
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Too much for a city dweller. However, I could go for some backyard chicken breast.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:44 | 2340420 ihedgemyhedges
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After 18 years of marriage, I could go for any breast................................

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:17 | 2340832 Chupacabra
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Who voted this down??   Apparently there are three women on ZH!  lol

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:21 | 2340837 TruthInSunshine
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3 a cups.

a cups can be perky, ladies (nawwww, not really).

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:08 | 2340932 Overflow-admin
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Nope. "On the Internet, men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents waiting to get you."

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:13 | 2340318 robertocarlos
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You think that cow doesn't know what you are doing with her off-spring?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:49 | 2340415 HamyWanger
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It's not that thing which troubles me, it's the fact people are allowed to own farm animals outside of regulations and vet controls. It leaves the door open to animal abuse, the spreading of diseases, etc. 

It should be outlawed in every State, just like homeschooling, dairy milk and other aberrations of another age. 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:52 | 2340446 knukles
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Oh please fucking die.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:02 | 2340476 ShankyS
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Stay out of my garden. 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:19 | 2340527 TWSceptic
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Electorate like you are the source of all problems, seriously.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:40 | 2340593 mr. mirbach
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Hi HarryWanger - your trolling has been missed!

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:20 | 2340681 derek_vineyard
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 people that intentionally try to antagonize others online just want attention

 actually, hamy probably is a gold bug with keen sense of saccasm

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:58 | 2340862 CompassionateFascist
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No, that would be Million Dollar Bonus; but HW is indeed an attention-whore.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:50 | 2340800 Bunga Bunga
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Home reproduction should be outlawed in every state too, because it leaves the door open to infiltrating the United States genetic pool with terrorist genes. Every women in the United States should receive only federally approved genetic material, all newborn should be subjected to mandatory genetic testing.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:18 | 2340833 Chupacabra
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Hamy, I voted you up, apparently the new breed does not appreciate schtick

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