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The massive grass roots campaign over the topic of "pink slime" which seemingly came out of nowhere, and led to the bankruptcy of the company producing the substance, shows just why product branding can be such a profitable industry. Had the company taken a hint from the Goldman playbook and dubbed the peculiar substance an "Asymmetric Meat Initiative" all would have been forgotten in days, if not hours. Unfortunately, the mechanical process of "lean finely textured beef", aka pink slime, is just the beginning. As ProPublica shows, after pink slime, there comes Mechanically Separated Meat, aka "White Slime", and then Advanced Meat Recovery. And if recent history is a guide, any entities that have an equity stake in these last two processes should be afraid, very afraid, because the fate that befell the first, is about to visit the other two, in the process making such other 'delicacies" as bologna, hot dogs, taco filling, and meatballs surge in price once the traditional cheap "filler" substance is taken away by the same people who consume said meat byproducts in droves, in the process likely ending the concept of the dollar menu for good as restaurants have no choice but to resort to quality food. Ironically, will fat America itself, terrified by concepts such a colored slime, be responsible for its own weening from some of the worst products on earth, and in the process raise the price of food, and force itself to eat less? Will the end of the "slimes" be the one savior of the massively underfunded US welfare state as America gets healthy and lean again? Alas, we doubt it. But one can always hope.

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Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:16 | 2340323 kekekekekekeke
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ok maybe I just don't "get" this sort of humor but why would a mother-in-law be mad if you were doing what you ought to on the path of not being a shitty lay, I mean hypothetically wouldn't she be glad baby girl is being taken care of 

because that is a cunnilingus joke right?  it was kind of a mixed metaphor of jokes

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:13 | 2340514 knukles
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Jesus...

 

Mixed metaphor.  Kinda like interbreeding jokes

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:26 | 2340555 tickhound
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Oh there they go... THERE they go, EVERY time i start talkin' bout boxin' white man got ta bring Rocky Marciano out they ass.............................

He beat Joe Louis' ass.....

Morris: That's right, he did whoop Joe Louis' ass.
Clarence: Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.
Morris: I don't know how old he was, but he got his ass whooped.
Clarence: Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano the minute he was 76 years old. Joe Louis was always lying about his age. He lied about his age all the time. One time Frank Sinatra came in here and sat in this chair. I said Frank 'you hang out with Joe Louis, just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis?' You know what Frank told me, he said "Hey, Joe Louis is 137 years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old!
Sweets: Oh. Man, you lying, you ain't never meet no Frank Sinatra.
Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:48 | 2340236 Misean
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Textured meat products...the other white meat?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:09 | 2340280 cowdiddly
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Textured beef product "Its whats for dinner" or how about  Tyson's chickens motto "feeding you like family' bitchez

Glad i raise my own food. I hope they sent this crap by the truckload to wallstreet and D.C. restrants. eat up.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:48 | 2340237 John Wilmot
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Mmmmmmm, bitchez

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:48 | 2340238 DoChenRollingBearing
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Eeww...

 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:49 | 2340239 LetThemEatRand
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"will fat America itself, terrified by concepts such a colored slime, be responsible for its own weening from some of the worst products on earth, and in the process raise the price of food, and force itself to eat less?"

Perhaps part of the fat epidemic is directly related to the widespread consumption of this garbage, especially by the poor who chose it for obvious reasons.  If you're eating nutrition free food, you're gonna eat a lot of it to feel full.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:49 | 2340244 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Is there a corelation to this and obiesity?  There is, isn't there!  Amazing!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:51 | 2340248 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:50 | 2340246 DormRoom
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Is it any wonder the number of Americans with cancer,  neurological, and auto-immune diseases is rising.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:47 | 2341081 SWRichmond
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Our bodies were designed to eat things we either pulled from the ground, picked off a bush, or chased, killed and dragged back to camp then threw in the fire.  Get as close to that as you can.  Simple philosophy, hard to put into practice.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 11:52 | 2341853 CoolBeans
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...and autism....and...more.  There is no doubt a connection to all of the crap in overly processed foods.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:52 | 2340252 Dave Thomas
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Remember those DAK hams from the Grocery store? I always wondered why they were shaped like an Egg.

 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:15 | 2340519 knukles
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Oh my....

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:52 | 2340255 Sophist Economicus
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I'm not giving up my Spam!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:59 | 2340277 prains
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then pull your pants up

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:12 | 2340317 espirit
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Made me think of Vienna Sausages.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:23 | 2340540 WillyGroper
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Beenie Wienies

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:53 | 2340256 Jena
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And no wonder there are so many instances of E. coli contamination in the meat supply.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:05 | 2340483 ShankyS
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They have a pill for that (and everything else) LOL

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:01 | 2340744 Race Car Driver
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Not if it's properly irradiated.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:53 | 2340258 pilly74
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As a farmer i have knowen about this for many years.

 

The real problem is that any animal pushes toxins into fatty tissue.

 

Then you get what is called bio-magnification,this is the scary part.

 

If you want me to continue explaining just ask,i dont feel like typing for no reason.

 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:55 | 2340266 hardcleareye
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Yes please explain and give links! (creditable ones please......)

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:03 | 2340284 Out9922
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Of course.  This is your only chance.  When is the last time Tyler posted anything about meat?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:34 | 2340576 Bolweevil
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Didn't you see the thread on Blythe?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:26 | 2340528 knukles
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See now, I'll pitch in with a request too and then you can type all night long with good reason.

Come on, gotta be some seriously sick shit that we can play with.

 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:05 | 2340654 TruthInSunshine
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It's true.

Heavy metals and other lipophilic toxins get concentrated in the fat of animals (and humans; our brain is mostly fat, and that's where the aluminum and mercury ends up), and especially apex predators. This is why tuna are loaded with mercury and shark are a no-go for anyone concerned about mercury contamination.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:02 | 2340930 Treason Season
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"This is why tuna are loaded with mercury and shark are a no-go for anyone concerned about mercury contamination."

Not True!

Turns out, though, that eating ocean fish that contain more selenium than mercury protects against mercury toxicity. Ocean fish (e.g., halibut, salmon) and shellfish (e.g., lobster, crab) are chock-full of the mineral: 17 of the top 25 selenium food sources are seafood

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/mercury-fish-harmful-thought-20570...

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 07:48 | 2341084 SWRichmond
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I eat salmon several times a week.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:55 | 2340271 Bay of Pigs
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Eat this. It works. Try it with chocolate protein powder and a banana (and water).

http://theultimatelife.net/CatalogMealBenefits.htm

 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:43 | 2340599 Bay of Pigs
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Good grief. I use this stuff. Not selling it.

Get a grip junkers...

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:56 | 2340273 blindman
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part 1,2,3.
debt, securitization, standardization,market guarantee, basis, leverage, hype and rehypothication clown/carney//circus people money, explained.
nothing against clown/circus people. there is where i should have joined ranks, maybe as a barker in a carney? for the money i guess, or the processed food items?
this piece might imparts more insight than can comfortably be enjoyed?
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12 April 2012
Securitization - The Undead Heart of the Shadow Banking System
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http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2012/04/securitization-undead-h...
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"..Welcome into the warm, hydraulic embrace of leverage." ....
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"Leverage

You pay to have some new cash printed and polished. You use it to take out a large loan. You invest the loan. And it is the profit from this new investment that pays for and makes sense of the costs of all that polishing. This new investment, far removed from the original mortgages is what it has all been building towards. What it has all been about.

It is the profit you will make from the investment, made with the loan, given to you on the basis of the securities, made from the underlying mortgages. This is the real logic of the whole system. NOT getting a feeble return from a few poxy mortgages.

Mortgages were merely the feed-stock for a system (called Securitization) whose purpose was to create new money in order to feed into, in turn, another machine called Leverage.

Securitization plus leverage, lubricated by an unlimited new source of money. That was the machine. It’s what they are trying so hard to kick start again.

The thing to note is that the Securitization of sub-par mortgages does NOT make sense unless you have leveraged loans to bring in the profit. Is it any wonder that Henry Paulson while at Goldman from around 2000 onwards lobbied relentlessly for limits on leverage to be relaxed or lifted. And is it coincidence that when leverage was lifted in 2004 when Mr Paulson was now US Secretary of the Treasury that sub-prime took off?

I am not saying leverage was the cause of sub-prime. I am saying it was the other necessary part which had to be married to securitization for the bubble to inflate as it did. Securitization required leverage. Leverage enabled it. Together they brought the debt-to-money machine to life.

You started with a debt/mortgage. Turned it into currency. Used that to get another loan, i.e. turned it back into debt which you then invested it in another enterprise hoping to bring in more cash. And along the way that new loan you took on, using ‘money’ made from the earlier debt – will probably be securitized and entered into the same process. Confused? Don’t worry. So were half the people in the market, but it didn’t matter to them. They were turning water into wine and getting drunk on it.

Because from that one loan/mortgage has sprung another debt. Both now need to perform. If they do, the bubble grows and you will get twice as rich, twice as fast.

The securitization machine provided an endless supply of new money. It made sense to acquire the stuff because with it you could expand your own loan book. This is why the German Landesbanks bought so much of it. It was, to them, capital, which allowed them to go on a borrowing and lending spree of their own.

Anyone who wanted to grow aggressively and lend massively became the purchasers of as much of this stuff as they could get hold of. RBS was one. Buy it. Sell it on, use it as collateral. It was all good, as long as the bubble grew and leverage allowed returns to cover the costs.

But for the bubble to keep growing and the profits continue to pay for the costs and risks of the sub-prime securities leverage had to get higher and higher. The rate of acceleration of growth of the whole market had to increase. The graph had not just to climb but steepen. The problem is a line can’t get steeper for ever. Eventually it goes vertical and then there is no more. Markets call this a parabolic blow-off. After which because there is no more acceleration, the whole thing collapses back under its own weight.

That was the moment when everyone suddenly recognized the risk in every account and when Lehman could not repo any of its ‘assets’. The promise was revealed as a lie and everything stopped – dead." golem xiv

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:39 | 2340397 Tyler Durden
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Funny how suddenly everyone jumps on the shadow banking bandwagon, or the one we have claimed for over 3 years, is the very heart of the "Treasury as a giffen good" paradox, whereby debt is rehypothecated to the very issuer's custodial complex, in a infinite daisy chain of expanding collateral, and in the process provides more cash than the actual debt 'displaces.' Ever wonder why Bids To Cover for all bonds keeps rising as ever more and more debt is issued? Ask State Street and BonY and their $35 trillion in "custodial securities", which serve as a source of well over $35 trillion in non-depositor sourced cash.

Either way, we are happy more and more are finally getting that the true source of credit money was never regulated in the last two decades, is the true object of "distraction" with trivial tangential data, and which is, for the most part, never on the books of any financial institution!

Read much more here, but most certainly read this.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:54 | 2340525 Tapeworm
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Malone is hardly jumping on the bandwagon. He has done a great service by running his blog to explain to those that need the basics. His book is nothing new to you or to me, but it does help those that are getting strangled and want an explanation.

 Lately Malone has come up with some controversial and believeable essays on shadow banking and the piles of debt foisted upon Ireland and the rest. Your ally here is doing a damned good job. Looking back at his stuff from 2011 and the connections to the insolvent reach of the giant Italian banks has not been covered as well as he did.

 So Jesse found him this month and is putting in links. Those two are on the same morality wavelength. As for myself, I am with the morality argument of both of them.

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And much thanks for the links to the previous pieces. I will pledge again to do my miniscule part to fund ZH.

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i ACTUALLY DID IT

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:54 | 2340631 Bolweevil
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My nose started bleeding around the "tri-party repo" part. These things should come with a disclaimer/ list of possible side effects.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:08 | 2340753 TheDavidRicardo
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TD,

The pink slime stuff is funny and all, but insights such as this are the reason to be here. Thanks!

 

 

 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:02 | 2340282 blindman
Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:03 | 2340285 GlenD
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Pink slime is preferable to soylent green.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:03 | 2340286 stuartbushcraftblog
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In the Army we use to call this R.I.P.

 

R's holes, I holes and Piss holes............

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:07 | 2340291 Jack Burton
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I have done my own farm butchering over the years. To have a good clean product requires time and care in the gutting process. Inside the huge slaughter houses time is money. The process there makes it inevitable that the meat is heavily contaminated with, lets call a spade a spade, animal shit. Every chicken coming out of that process is heavily covered in it. Most other meats are also contaminated in this way, but chickens are the worst.

God himself only knows what goes into these processed meats. I stay away from it. Pink Slime I have known about for years. That is why i grind my own ground meats, beef and pork. You pick a nice cut of beef and grind it yourself and freeze it in small plastic bags. Store ground beef has all the stuff that can not be sold in any other form.

McDonalds Chicken McNuggets are made from the worst filth known to man. I watch mothers and dads stuff their kids with McDonalds filth, poor kids!

In a free market, we choose what we want to eat. My only argument FOR regulations is that people should KNOW what the processes are and how the meat is handled. Only an informed person can make a consumer choice that makes any sense.

As for Pink Slim makers and Chicken Slime makers. Hey, if people want that shit, then they will have a customer base. But if keeping their processes secret is the only way they can retain a consumer base? Then let them go bankrupt.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:11 | 2340310 kekekekekekeke
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ugh you're so right about the ground beef from the store.  I rarely buy meat but occasionally ground beef for spaghetti or whatever and I really need to just start grinding it myself

 

I was at a "manfest" last week and the host made deer burgers... pretty cool

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:20 | 2340682 Braverdave
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I grew up watching my parents raise chickens for eggs (and eating) as well as a steer for butcher every now and then. My dad was a hunter so we had venison on a regular basis too. The butchering was like a ritual, everything just so, neat and tidy. Good times.

And grinding, another ritual.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:10 | 2340307 aldousd
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pink slime is 100% beef. it's just ground up. There is no additive. no emulsifier. just beef. get over this. it makes you look dumb "OMG it looks so disgusting! BAN HE!"

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:16 | 2340327 espirit
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Just beef.  Lips, tongues, hooves, and anything else that can't be marketed at a higher price - sicko.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:13 | 2340669 Maos Dog
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Elbows and assholes actually :)

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:21 | 2340345 TruthInSunshine
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Lean finely textured beef consists of finely ground beef scraps, sinew, fat, and connective tissue which have been mechanically removed in a heated centrifuge from the fat into liquid fat and a protein paste. The recovered material is processed, heated, and treated with ammonia gas to kill E. coli, salmonella, and other bacteria. It is finely ground, compressed into blocks and flash frozen.

It is not permitted in Canada. In a statement, Health Canada stated that: "Ammonia is not permitted in Canada to be used in ground beef or meats during their production." Such products also may not be imported.

It also does not meet the legal requirements for sale in the United Kingdom, and has been banned in the European Union.

 

 

Good stuff. Have some more ammonia saturated connective tissue (esepcially from the spinal cord and brain stem).

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:08 | 2340495 WAMO556
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It is also made from people! Ever wonder where all of those missing people end up?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:18 | 2340526 aerojet
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Well, Canada got that right, but overall, it's still a very backward country.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:25 | 2340552 TruthInSunshine
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There are things - many things -  I am not wild about in Canada.

On a relative basis, however, the USSA sure is doing its upmost to make Canada look good.

NDAA 2012 is an example. I'd probably be able to whip up over a hundred examples of how far the U.S. has fallen in terms of ignoring the Bill of Rights, just for starters.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:46 | 2340606 aerojet
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The NDAA has yet to have any effect on me.  I find that the cure for all of this paranoia is to drive out into the country, stop the car, open the door, and just look around, breathe, and relax.  None of that bullshit matters.  Our Bill of Rights has been dead or dying for its entire existence, it's not worth worrying about.  I'm a fan of the 2nd Amendment, but I would probalby own guns regardless of whether there was such a thing as a Bill of Rights.  It's all just grandstanding. 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:28 | 2340695 palmereldritch
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Head's Up!

Send in the Drones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0yNOuIyEts

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 11:47 | 2341827 CoolBeans
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I'm glad you're not my nieghbor because I wouldn't waste a bullet to help protect your apathetic ass.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:11 | 2340666 Desert Irish
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guys in 5 years time we'll own you....nuff said

 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:31 | 2340845 FrankDrakman
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Oh, yeah, we're backward. Corporations and unions are banned from contributing to federal elections, and there are stringent limits on 3rd party activities. We don't have Diebold voting machines; we use good old paper ballots. We have a Prime Minister who can actually speak without a teleprompter, and sound intelligent, and nobody thinks he's Kenyan, Muslim, or a Commie. We don't have a Gitmo, an NDAA, or an AG who sells guns to criminals. We do have voter ID laws. We don't let our PM murder our citizens in Canada or abroad. We don't have 5, or 10, or 50 bank failures a week. We're not immune to the Vampire Squid, but it doesn't buy and sell our government. We don't have an out of control EPA who think you can till a farm without raising dust, or who reduce thousands of farmers to penury to save an inch long junk fish that's no good for anything. And while we have our share of useless politicians, we have no one in the same universe, let alone "class", as Maxine Waters or Charles Rangel. Our government has taken steps to reform pensions, which are nowhere near as badly bent as SS. Toronto, a city of 2.5 million, has about 50 murders a year. Philadelphia, a city of 1.5 million, has about 300 murders a year.

We have our problems, sure. But, how, exactly, is Canada backward compared to the US? Fewer Kardashians? No Snooki? No Trayvons? You know, we do have TV, jet planes, cars, and the intratube, even though it gets clogged with ice from time to time.

Jerk.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:46 | 2340894 prole
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I agree with most of what you said eh, but break down Toronto and Philly by race and that will explain the murder rates, in a perfectly rational fashion you hoser. To say it plainly: The murder rates are identical, when calculated based on race. Plus it's cold as Hell up there.

What I don't know is if you can legally purchase and carry pistols? And if you blow away some criminal breaking into your house do you get legally ruined and jailed like you would in England/NZ/AUS or would you be within your rights as in US?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 05:54 | 2340972 memyselfiu
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http://www.firearmstraining.ca/permits.htm

 

as far as blowing away someone breaking into your house, Canada typically has an 'eye for eye' defence in that if it can be proven that your life was in jeopardy, then it is acceptable to take a life.

Criminal Code, Sections 34-37

34. (1) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted without having provoked the assault is justified in repelling force by force if the force he uses is not intended to cause death or grievous bodily harm and is no more than is necessary to enable him to defend himself.
(2) Every one who is unlawfully assaulted and who causes death or grievous bodily harm in repelling the assault is justified if
(a) he causes it under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence with which the assault was originally made or with which the assailant pursues his purposes; and
(b) he believes, on reasonable grounds, that he cannot otherwise preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm.

35. Every one who has without justification assaulted another but did not commence the assault with intent to cause death or grievous bodily harm, or has without justification provoked an assault on himself by another, may justify the use of force subsequent to the assault if
(a) he uses the force
(i) under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm from the violence of the person whom he has assaulted or provoked, and
(ii) in the belief, on reasonable grounds, that it is necessary in order to preserve himself from death or grievous bodily harm;
( b) he did not, at any time before the necessity of preserving himself from death or grievous bodily harm arose, endeavour to cause death or grievous bodily harm; and
(c) he declined further conflict and quitted or retreated from it as far as it was feasible to do so before the necessity of preserving himself from death or grievous bodily harm arose.
36. Provocation includes, for the purposes of sections 34 and 35, provocation by blows, words or gestures.
37. (1) Every one is justified in using force to defend himself or any one under his protection from assault, if he uses no more force than is necessary to prevent the assault or the repetition of it.
(2) Nothing in this section shall be deemed to justify the wilful infliction of any hurt or mischief that is excessive, having regard to the nature of the assault that the force used was intended to prevent.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:09 | 2341116 prole
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Well, that's an answer. But the same written laws probably exist in US/UK/NZ but I know that in UK/NZ, if you so much as muss the hair of a thief or intruder, sure enough, the court and jury always finds that you were NOT in immediate danger of your life and off to prison you go! And you always used "too much force" double the sentence.

In the US, when it is your house or business, and some lowlife breaks in and ends up dead, you generally get the benefit of the doubt and walk with minimal legal difficulty.

(weird alien landscapes like CA/NY/NJ excepted)

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:13 | 2341445 FrankDrakman
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This is an area where Canada has fallen down, but is slowly getting back up. There have been a number of incidents where a Canadian defending his property has been arrested, while the offenders get off scot free. In the most egregious example, a Chinese grocer in Toronto grabbed a drug user who had stolen stuff from his store (not just this time, but a number of previous times as well), and with his brother's help, held the thief in a van while he waited for the cops. The cops charged the grocer with unlawful confinement, and the prosecutor gave the crook a pass in return for his testimony. Luckily, the court found in favour of the grocer, but it cost him 1,000's in legal fees. (Ironically, the crook was later arrested for yet another theft, and is now in jail.)

In another case, a man's home was attacked by a bunch of teenage thugs in the middle of the night, throwing Molotov cocktails at his house. The retired army vet took out his shotgun, went to his porch, and fired a warning shot in the air. He was charged with unlawful use of a firearm, unlawful storage, and a bunch of other things. Again, once it went to court (and after a huge public outcry) the man was acquitted.

The new Conservative government has said it will introduce legislation to make it easier for Canadians to defend themselves. It has already scrapped the so-called "long gun" registry, where law abiding citizens were forced to jump through hoops to register their rifles, shotguns, etc., at a cost of billions, while having zero affect on crime. Crooks, of course, didn't bother to register their guns.

Like I said, we have our problems. But we're not "backward" compared to the US of A, or any other country.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:33 | 2340706 Braverdave
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It's good to be a Canuckistanian :) as far as "lean finely textured beef" with "ammonia saturated connective tissue" goes.

But don't tell some of my friends who I have been scaring with real campfire stories about the scary pink slime and the other atrocities that they call food.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:24 | 2340359 Marginal Call
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Ammonium Hydroxide.  Mmmm.

 

Look, I'll eat a pigs ass, I don't care.  But let's be honest, pink slime ain't just beef.  It's trimmings off the floor and mop water.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:31 | 2340373 Caviar Emptor
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And floor sweepings simmered in grease trap chitlins

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:56 | 2340455 SilverFish
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Would you eat a can of cold fish assholes?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:24 | 2340544 knukles
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Can we talk punctuation here?
Is tha;
"...eat a can of fish assholes?
or
"...eat a can of fish, assholes?

I'm kinda betwixed and in between the two.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:35 | 2340707 Braverdave
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Yah! What they scrape off the floor! Gives me shivers thinking about it.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:53 | 2340447 AmazingLarry
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For the fuck's sake. At least watch "Food Inc" to see BPI's operation. Place looks like petrol plant - and they're "making food?!?!" 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:11 | 2340758 Race Car Driver
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> There is no additive.

Well, just that Ammonia gas - for that lip-smackin' goodness.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:16 | 2340320 deflator
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 I've been ranting about pork, turkey, chicken hotdogs for more than 20 years now. I like Vienna sausages AKA hotdogs(as long as they are beef) but the term hotdog has become generic in that as long as something resembles something it can be sold as something. I think the makers of, "pink slime" failed to recognize this concept and, "jumped the shark" of "substitution".

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:16 | 2340324 pilly74
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Sorry all my links are in my brain,i'm a ful time farmer and have been doing it well over thirty years,my earliest memories where watching animals come into this world in the middle of the night in the red glow of heat lamps.

 

I've taken post secondary on it,i am an actual farmer.

 

The boogey man is not genetically modifidied or animal sh#t or fertilizers.

 

It is chemicals,most are bad.

 

Herbicides and fungicides are not good but the real killer is called pesticides,most uneducated people ASSume all are the same...big mistake.

 

A certain amount of these technologies HAS to be used...period,or kiss a few billion people good bye,its on your conscience.

 

Unfortunatley,and i'm pretching to the choir,rational thinking has left the building.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:19 | 2340334 espirit
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Hoo-wee, try and stay sober when you post on ZH.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:20 | 2340337 kekekekekekeke
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The boogey man is not genetically modifidied or animal sh#t or fertilizers.

Why do you say that? One of these things is not like the others...

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:14 | 2340518 my puppy for prez
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Agreed.  There is ample research out there that GMO is BAD, BAD, BAD....it just takes three decades to start showing its ill effects.  I would suggest this farmer read "Seeds of Destruction" by Jeffrey Smith.  Many whistleblower scientists have been threatened and wrongly slandered for speaking up.  My family still owns small farms, and I talk to my mom about them all the time.  At least our wheat crops are not GMO.  Wish I could say that about the corn.  

There is also evidence that a myth has been purported by big-agra that yield is lower with non-GMO.  This simply is not true.  

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:28 | 2340353 deflator
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 The problem is economists who have to financialize everything including our food. They teach substitution in economics as a route to profitability. Do you wonder why your grocers case is stocked full of pork, turkey, chicken hotdogs and it is hard to find real beef hotdogs? The ground pork turkey, chicken is stuff they were going to throw away any way. For a long time pork, turkey, chicken hotdogs were the same price as real beef ones . The problem is 90% of the bologna/hotdog section is loaded with pork, turkey, chicken shit and it is hard to find 100% beef hotdogs.

 I used to have a rant about hotdogs, apple pie and baseball, don't get me started about baseball and apple pie!

 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:59 | 2340900 prole
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The man said he's a farmer, not a grammatician. We have plenty of grammatical experts on the internets, they are practically flooded with them, but few farmers bother to post ... so let the man rant on....

Philly Farmer speaking for myself I would do anything to avoid buying or eating any GMO "food" For people who buy and eat processed food and wheat and soy they can eat whatever they want I don't care, but I don't like the idea that any GMO crap can be snuck into my diet without me knowing what it is.

And poop is great it is the best fertilizer! I believe in Germany all the farms are more mid-sized and not huge-scale agri-business farms, and they all use fresh cow poop as the fertilizer, they just dump it right on top the soil (from what I could tell)

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:18 | 2340332 Marginal Call
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That advanced meat recovery thing looks like a hell of a dick sucking device.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:20 | 2340339 Goldilocks
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The Simpsons - Jimbo Burger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7wYECUvLE0 (2:33)

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:20 | 2340340 robertocarlos
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The first class passengers on Titanic had roasted squab as one of the eleven courses of their last dinner.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:25 | 2340364 Mercury
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...and (especially with radar) I'd rather cross the the Atlantic like that than on a G-5 anyday.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:31 | 2340563 hedgeless_horseman
Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:56 | 2340633 Mercury
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Now there's a great present to get a friend just to piss off his wife...

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:21 | 2340341 pilly74
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomagnification

 

Basically if you have never heard of this,you should sit down and shut up

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:32 | 2340375 Qa
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Good info, thanks

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:42 | 2340410 azusgm
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So...most Americans are composed of genetically modified dent corn?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:29 | 2340347 Mercury
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Ironically, will fat America itself, terrified by concepts such a colored slime, be responsible for its own weening from some of the worst products on earth, and in the process raise the price of food, and force itself to eat less? Will the end of the "slimes" be the one savior of the massively underfunded US welfare state as America gets healthy and lean again?

They might at least consider re-learning how to grind meat themselves.

Hey look! convenient and cheap have trade-offs.  Who knew?

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:25 | 2340352 LouisDega
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My Grand father is 87 years old. His whole life he ate Wunderbar German Bologna with the first ingredient listed as Pork lips and smoked cigars. Go figure.   

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:44 | 2340418 deflator
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 If it was made in Germany it was probably some good bologna, not some shit produced on an assembly line via the lowest common denominator.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:51 | 2340439 Amish Hacker
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That was back before they found out that those things are bad for you.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:28 | 2340361 Caviar Emptor
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So, kids, you thought that was crab in your California roll?  Guess what....it's really fish "slurry or puree" made from hake and pollock (with red coloring to make it look less improbable)

 

Say konishiwa to Surimi: See traumatizing imitation crab video 

http://www.eatmedaily.com/2009/07/traumatizing-imitation-crab-manufactur...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surimi

(In part 2 we look at "it was never wasabi")

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:47 | 2340427 dogbreath
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i'll never eat that again.   I thought it was whole fish rather than fish pasta

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:50 | 2340369 G-R-U-N-T
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Like I've said, a good replacement for pink and white slime is brains and balls!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wkiXkf2dqw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=3eX26gZhYkM

 

I prefer it cooked with a bit o salt mates!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:36 | 2340388 tony wilson
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pink slime is for pussies..

real radioactive men in japan eat shit burgers.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvSPQ7megQ

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:54 | 2340450 Decolat
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At 1:34 you can see the fridge the researcher stores the shit burger in is labeled 'Shit Burger'. 

 

I'm impressed. I thought I would dare try anything once. 

 

Check please.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:32 | 2340574 knukles
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That's just way the fuck wrong.

BTW...

What in God's name is he doing with that plastic hand finger pointer thingie?

Doesn't he have a finger?
If so, then where has his finger been that he's so shy about showing it?
There are some very real existential questions that this shit raises.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:11 | 2340657 hedgeless_horseman
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Shit!  

Thank you, Tony, for posting that link. 

I agree, Knuckles.

I laughed...I cried...I need another drink.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 04:05 | 2340901 prole
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The Japanese can eat whatever they want there is no way in Hell I'm clicking that link....

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:51 | 2341013 BigInJapan
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That story is a hoax. Google it.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:36 | 2340389 pilly74
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Ok,i'll scare you.

 

What is the name of the chemical farmers use to destroy insects in grain?

 

Phostoxin...aka...aluminium phosphide

 

Maybe if they focus on "genetcally mdified" enough they wont look under the covers,and figure it out????????

 

-everything you eat,think about that

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phostoxin

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:13 | 2340511 azusgm
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You're right. That is scary. My organic garden is looking more beautiful and important everyday.

I even raise earthworms and use some of the worms, the castings, and the compost tea in the garden and the greenhouse.

My next two projects: canning and beekeeping.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:44 | 2340728 Braverdave
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My mom has the canning skills and i know them now too. Beekeeping would be awesome. Lots of orchards where I am.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:11 | 2340829 green888
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An insecticide neonicitinoid now linked to bee colony collapse in two research projects

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:40 | 2340392 Crassus
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Pink slime from the meatpacking industry and its equivalent from government, law, medicine, journalism, science, finance, the Pentagon etc.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:38 | 2340396 Samual Adams
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Bon Appetit, Bitchez!   Feed the Proles shit then make money off the medication they need to live....Priced In and transitory

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:42 | 2340408 notadouche
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My kids favorite food is hamburgers.  At school he refuses to eat the one's served by the cafeteria.  He claimed they had a 'funny smell" to them like medicine or cleaning products.  Only when pink slime story broke did I unerstand.

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Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:49 | 2340409 hairball48
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I'll be loading up Mr Pincus with some 3" rounds of #6 shot here in a few days. I'm holding Mr Pincus in my avatar. Wild turkey season here in NW Montana opens April 14th. Nothing like stir fried wild rice and wild turkey :)

Note to knuckleheads who like to pick on old folks: I keep Pincus close by at all times. Trust me, you'll never know the difference between a load of #6 shot and 00buckshot from a .12g at close range. :)

Yeeeehawww! 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:27 | 2340556 aerojet
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There is no conceivable way that 320 million people in the US could be fed this way, so just shut up about it, okay? 

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:43 | 2340595 TruthInSunshine
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You're off topic, no?

How about those who take the initiative to grab some land in areas where wild game is abundant, hone their hunting skills, and sensibly reap thy bounty?

Raise your own poultry, beef or whatever livestock you wish, and grow some vegetable perfection while you're at it.

Who says people have to eat Chicken Shitnuggets if they're willing to take that other, less traveled path?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:03 | 2340649 azusgm
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Grab some land? Like this?

http://texarkana.craigslist.org/reo/2948330334.html

The deer are so thick, they need traffic lights.

 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:05 | 2340652 Lednbrass
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And anything said has to be a valid solution for the hordes of urban useless?

I dont care how or even if they eat, most of em can have a heapin' helpin' of daily slime for all I care. The zombie consumers already shambling through the major metropolitan areas seem to enjoy it.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:46 | 2340428 Stuck on Zero
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The most nutritious parts of an animal are the brains, liver, bones, (marrow), blood, bones, heart, and spleen.  These contain all the Omega3 fatty acids, iron, glycogen, iron, and tons of other vitamins and other nutrients.  The muscle has little nutrition outside of some protein.  This is why predators will eat all the organs and leave the muscle for scavengers.  I've observed this with lions in Africa, raptors, and pumas.  Bears will preferentially eat the brains and skin of salmon and leave the muscle.  Mankind used to know this and made hundreds of wonderful dishes from all the parts of the cow and sheep.  Yumm sausage.  We have abandoned this practice and now eat the meat and we're suffering from malnutrition.  Look at our beloved dogs.  IAMS took all the organs out of dogfood and all the others did likewise and now all our dogs are getting the same debilitating diseases as human: arthritis, mange, eczema, diabetes, and edemas. 

Next time your old Uncle Tom from the Ozarks offers you a huge hunk of Head Cheese eat it with gusto!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:37 | 2340579 hedgeless_horseman
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Agreed.  Chicken liver mousse with pears, salad, and a Graves Semillon.  Cannot beat it!

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:14 | 2340672 stirners_ghost
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Chicken liver mousse? I'm pretty sure I can beat that.

I'm pretty sure everything beats that.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:39 | 2340718 jomama
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how proper and civilized this photo looks.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:05 | 2340748 Braverdave
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I love chicken livers!

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:16 | 2340982 Dr Benway
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i'd seriously rather have a cheeseburger from McD than liver pate

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:36 | 2340997 Ghordius
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hedgless, I'm shocked! this is a French recipy, according to my dear late grandmother that made the exact dish (without salad) - delicious.

Yes, all those "parts" that nowadays have become "yeach" were in the past either eaten or used for tasty sausages.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:15 | 2340675 DeltaDawn
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As a prepper I watched a video of a nice granola girl illustrating how to butcher a chicken just in case I ever need to know how. Part way through she shows the partially formed eggs and then sucks the contents out of them. Most of us would rather die. Amazing how squeamish we have become compared to say the Japanese.

My vet marvels at how healthy my dog is. He swallows a ground squirrel and a bit of sheep shit every day to supplement his diet.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:17 | 2340762 Braverdave
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I draw the line at partially formed chicks in the egg but had a girlfriend back in high school and her parents couldn't get enough of those chunky egg/chick thingies. Freaked me out the first time I saw them and eating them was something I have never done again. But if that was all that was available then bring it on. And served with a salad of arugula with an ant dressing (ants are tangy!) to cut through the 'richness' of the chick/eggy things it might not be half bad.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:18 | 2340763 Braverdave
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And my dogs eat mice with horse shit on the side every now and then.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:33 | 2341310 Stuck on Zero
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Animal excrement contains a lot of vitamin B12.  Eating shit is the only way many animals have for taking in adequate levels of B12.  The B12 is manufactured in the lower intestine by bacteria.  By the way.  Don't eat liver unless it's from a young animal and it's organic.  The liver concentrates all the toxins modern farm animals are fed.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:50 | 2340436 Yes_Questions
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Not too OT:

http://www.kipnews.org/2012/04/10/heart-surgeon-speaks-out-on-what-reall...

The Low Fat brigade was only right in context.

 

But wrong in reality. 

 

Oh, and  EEEEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:57 | 2340463 AmazingLarry
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If you've ever paid attention, the blood out of a grass fed ruminant is almost a deep maroon, almost purple. While I don't think you should necessarly poke a hole in the side of ole Bessy to really find out, it's interesting how this garbage is pink....not even red. 

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:29 | 2340773 DeltaDawn
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To defend logic...you are not comparing blood to blood.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:02 | 2340475 stant
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we buy our beef in this part of ky from the farmer.black angus no drugs. grass fed 700 bucks last us .family of 5 about 9 months.we raise our produce and can. the orchards nice too

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:08 | 2340487 ebworthen
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You all must realize that what we don't process and make good use of goes into the landfill don't you?

I love Hot Dogs, Bologna, Salami, etc.  It is a tribute to - and respect for - the animal to use all you can.  It gave it's life so the least we can do is not waste anything.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:22 | 2340539 Zgangsta
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A better idea still is to not eat meat and not force the animal to give its life in the first place.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:31 | 2340573 ebworthen
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Those animals would never have had a life if not raised for food; they don't just spring from trees or clover.

I have canine teeth, I was meant to eat meat, make your own choices.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:09 | 2340662 TruthInSunshine
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It's not the offal parts of the animal that are bad (although some should be eaten in moderation, like the liver, where the toxins of any animal/mammal are concentrated). It's the chemical and additives that are blended into the offal that make it hazardous to one's health in even small quantities.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:07 | 2340659 Lednbrass
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Yeah, nothing says natural like factory processed tofu and soybean curd. I personally enjoy picking that stuff right off the plant, just like nature intended.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:41 | 2340786 Tenshin Headache
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At least the tofu is aseptic, what with all the radioactive cesium and all.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:13 | 2340515 azengrcat
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When I was in grade school Native Americans were praised for "using all parts of the buffalo" vs. the evil Buffalo Bill's "Buffalo Halocaust".

 

Most fat people eat too many carbs, if they just stuck with pink slime and green fraken-vegetables their health would improve considerably.

 

After the Benank gets done you'll be starving and wishing you had $100 to pay for a Tyson pink slime cylinder wrapped in ConAgra yellow powder on a stick.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:27 | 2340561 Decolat
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Stock up on non-perishables now. That doesn't mean cat food Spam or slime cylinders. Properly stored wheat berries last 30 years, for example.

 

Even a 3 month food store gets you 2 months and 28 days ahead of the curve of 98% of the rest of this country. 

 

the Bernank can pry the bean bucket out of my cold, dead hands.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:31 | 2340701 jomama
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so if you eat wheat berries that are 30 years and a couple days old, will it taste funny?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:34 | 2341313 Decolat
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With a collapse as long and boring as this one, I'll probably end up letting you know first hand.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 12:33 | 2342005 BooMushroom
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Maybe a little. That's why you rotate your supplies, by eating what you store, and storing what you eat. And if Safeway was a burned out hulk, and Raley's was empty, you'd be pretty excited for a 5 gallon bucket of 30-year old wheat berries.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:40 | 2340719 atomicwasted
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Euell Gibbons?  I thought you were dead!!

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 09:42 | 2341334 Decolat
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XJMIu18I8Y

 

We should go eat a cattail today, in rememberence...

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:53 | 2340738 atomicwasted
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Never forget that the buffalo were slaughtered wholesale to get the bounties placed on them by the Feds.  They wanted the buffalo killed in order to starve out the Indians.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 01:54 | 2340803 quartshort
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Shooting from the hip straight from the box cars. I remember the drawings of hundreds of acres of dead buffalo along the rail tracks. They were in my history text. I am 37. Good old days...? Damn that makes me feel old at 37! WTF?!?

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:06 | 2340820 TruthInSunshine
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I never saw that in person, and I'm younger than you, but I remember the scene from Dances With Wolves, with the field heaped with dead buffalo that had been apparently shot dead for their hides alone and left to rot.

It pissed me off to see that, if even in a movie, and I even temporarily forgot what a shitty actor Kevin Costner is.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 02:40 | 2340855 jarrollin
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he did say drawings

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 06:18 | 2340984 Dr Benway
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aahh lololol

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:15 | 2340521 Silveramada
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Feed uncle Ben Shalom with green slime... ($ paper currency)

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:24 | 2340545 booboo
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Genetically modified bovine protein extract makes a body good. Just look at that healthy crop of poontang, Amarca, we gots the purtyest goils with the smallest brains in the developed world and they likes to pump like crazy. Look at them nut crunching feminist, cross eyed, buck toofed and peppered up with moles, and they think like that tard in chief obama rama ding dong, now them bitchez need some MEAT, yours, not mine.

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:00 | 2340635 DeltaDawn
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Genetically modified beef is not in production, but nice little rant you shared. Must hurt to be your brain.

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:37 | 2340585 nah
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Trash

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 23:53 | 2340628 non_anon
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ied's of the food world

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:04 | 2340646 palmereldritch
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Thanks for confirming the wisdom of consuming organic whenever you can...less (in this case) is more...

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:08 | 2340658 john39
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something else most people don't know about or understand, "meat glue":

http://youtu.be/hXXrB3rz-xU

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 03:25 | 2340883 Angus McHugepenis
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Yep, glue together a bunch of  "off-cuts"... roll them in meat glue and viola!... the finest French cuisine you can barf to.

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