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The Media Admits To Ignoring Ron Paul
Why? Because if "the unelectable one" were to become president, the financial kleptocratic, oligarchic status quo, which just so happens is the big legacy media's biggest advertising base, would be wiped out overnight. Next up: big media becomes very small media. The clip below from CNN explains it all.
As for the reason why Bachmann took first, one picture speak a thousand words:
h/t John and Travis
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As long as an establishment politician is in control the showdow government will be in control.. I do not fear her any more than I do the ones before her.
as opposed to a cocksucking cokehead like the current guy?
I mean, can things really get worse? Why would Bachmann do ANYTHING differently than her predecessor? She'd be Busch 3.0
At this point such a person should be considering very carefully what it is that's occurring in the world, that specifically involves them, that could possibly lead to such a vast and horrific finale to this mess? Why should they even think that could be the outcome of a Ron Paul election win?
But will they consider this obvious need to reconsider?
No, they will just claim total innocence and assert they are just being picked on and defamed, like they always have.
And that does not work, BTW.
I have thought about buying at spot, taking delivery and selling at twice to a sheep and reap profits.... And price in the fees, expenses etc.
But that would be pretty predatory...
Great. That way the gov knows who is holding the gold when it's time to confiscate the metal. Maybe around 3000 per oz.
Thanks eBay.
I don't care about the gold issue of Paul's as much as Paul as the whole package, anti-war, and anti-banker (I guess the gold standard ties into the anti-banker stance). Paul is basically an existential threat to every element of the status quo in the country, that's why those in power will do everything in power to stop Paul. He would be the first president who is not beholden to every special interest out there, and the puppets who control the centers of power regardless of a D or R in the white house would scream bloody murder if he was elected. They would fix the ballots for sure, there is no way they would allow him to win.
He still has my vote, for what it's worth.
Plus, 51% pay NO taxes. Paul's message will not resonate with them. Timmah sends out 80M checks per month. Paul's message will not resonate with them either.
Big fat liar -- either that, or a drooling idiot repeating what you've heard without question.
Federal "income taxes" are less than 25% of the total taxes collected by government. I assume you're referring to the people who don't pay those -- but end up paying a disproportionate share of payroll taxes and sales taxes, not to mention fees. Not to mention that every dollar they make usually gets turned into income for someone else via groceries, rent, car payment, house payment, bank fees, interest, etc, since they are living week-to-week.
You're a great propaganda-spewing machine though. Congrats. Now go back to watching Faux News.
Dude, that's called the economy. People working in order to make money to buy things they need which provide income to others is what makes a people prosperous. Sure, everybody should be willing and able to save some cash but that's nearly impossible due the the Federal Reserve's policies which make saved money rapidly lose value.
So spending money is now considered at tax? You're a fucked up retarded shithead.
The top 10% account for 40% of spending, so that blows your fucked up bullshit out of the water. The welathy are taxed on their social security checks. The poor pay no taxes on SS.
Go back to your dailykooks or puffington ho's to find some lies that aren't so easily thrown back into your retarded shitface. The free shit bus is headed off the cliff and retarded fucks like you are going down with it
I, for one, hope it goes off the cliff in flames.
Yeah I wouldn't piss on that bus if it were on fire.
Try this:
According the the IRS, in 2009, 50.5% of collections were from INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX.
http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/article/0,,id=102886,00.html
Also, according the the Tax Foundation, in 2008, the bottom 50% of filers paid a whopping 2.7% of all taxes paid.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html#table2 (table 6).
Yes, you did catch me, I meant the 51% who pay no federal income tax. During the recent debt ceiling fiasco, I read numerous reports where Timmah hisself mentions the 80M checks that treasury sends out per month. I don't watch fox news or any msm news broadcast, the internet has made tv rather redundant and repugnant to me. Other than that, go back to dailkos fucktard.
the IRS is not the only agency collecting taxes and fees. Total taxes and fees include state and local governments, which are the ones charging sales tax (disproportionaly paid by lower incomers who spend the vast majority of their income on consumption).
So the 50 percent gets a lot smaller when you factor in all taxes (not just federal.)
From the bottom page of the report you linked to:
The only tax analyzed here is the federal individual income tax, which is responsible for about 25 percent of the nation's taxes paid (at all levels of government). Federal income taxes are much more progressive than payroll taxes, which are responsible for about 20 percent of all taxes paid (at all levels of government), and are more progressive than most state and local taxes (depending upon the economic assumption made about property taxes and corporate income taxes).
You really are a verifiable retard aren't you?
According to the IRS: Summary of Collections Before Refunds by Type of Return, FY 2009 , 50% of IRS Collections are from INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAXES. I've already admitted to meaning the 50% who pay no federal income tax.
According to the Tax Foundation: THE BOTTOM 50% OF FEDERAL INCOME TAX FILERS PAY ONLY 2.7% OF THE MONIES COLLECTED.
I'll bet you're one of those who rant and rave about "Bush's Illegal War." Here are some facts for that one:
Before beginning action against Iraq, Bush received Senate and House approval as well as several UN resolutions backing his actions.
Before beginning action against Libya, obongo did not even notify the Senate or House of his actions. He had ZERO UN Resolutions supporting his actions. Several weeks after bombing began, both the Senate and the House denounced US involvement taking the chickenshit move of continuing funding while withholding approval.
NATO is not a part of the UN.
NATO does not dictate US policy. In fact, one could make a strong argument that the US dictates NATO policy.
So, it appears that it is OBONGO who is the illegal warmongerer.
Thanks. I needed that. So often esp on ZH I hear people spout off about those of us who pay "no taxes". They get up on their high horse and get all self righteous like we are all worthless, teat sucking scum. What many don't realize is that a lot of us used to be middle class or upperclass just like them but have had the life squeezed out of us recently. I watched my dad work his ass off to make us middle class. I busted my ass to keep myself there. But none of that hard work made one bit of difference....we all wound up pushed back down out of the middle class. So when you are ranting about all of us, keep in mind you are actually talking about people not just some percentage you saw quoted somewhere.
And the taxes you mentioned that we do have to pay, is just a small sample. EVERYONE pays gas tax, there are fees on the power bill that go to the gov, tax on just about every purchase ANY of us make! Not to mention the poor tax. Gas is more expensive inner city. Hell even tomatoes are more expensive in the city!
All I am saying is that it's easy to forget that there are actually people behind all these numbers that are spouted.
you know what though? I'll tell you a personal anecdote here. I was one of those who employed 5 people, full time with benefits. I gave that up 4 years ago. I decided to take my ball and just go home since everyone was getting paid, especially the government, except me. Now, I'm no genius, but it seems to me that government NEEDS private business in order to operate. I know a dozen people just like me.......... and i mean exactly like me, same business, same sentiment. So I don't think it really matters much because this baby is going to die of it's own weight. See I never really understood that before I quit feeding the beast and started reading ZERO HEDGE
LONG LIVE AND LONG LOVE TYLER DURDEN. YOU ARE HOT!!!!
First, I don't classify you in the 51%.
Second, I know exactly what you mean. I am self-employed and the past couple years have been trying, to say the least. I work day in day out and at the end of the month maybe I get paid maybe I get a small check maybe I don't get a check. Some months I've even lost money (bills have to be paid even if I'm not). I am incensed when I hear people hyperventilate over the prospect that payments to the poor may be cut. And I'm supposed to feel compassion and be over joyed that I can provide for someone who won't get off of the sofa. In the past three years I have stopped community service and even donating blood. I will not hire any one until obongo gets a pink slip. If you want to volunteer, give blood, hire more employees, go right ahead, I won't stand in your way. I will not.
I'm reporting all you bitches to Homeland security as soon as they start offering rewards... or at least let me gets me some meritorious snap reward points or something.
We're on ZH. We've all already self-reported, unless we've been careful every time to cover our tracks.
Let them come for me. Eventually we'll all love Big Brother...or die trying.
no? Well how bout a couple extra bags of pork rinds then? sheet.. let a joker live a little.
@HoofHearted: You are correct about RP supporters 'self-reporting' (so to speak) considering this and this ...
take this from me: one of the positive side effects of the government's 30-year race-based hiring and promotion policies and their consequences-be-damned construction of an artificial black middle class is that the government, as an entity, is totally incompetent.
Look, the government has an issue with NASA's "lack" of black scientists and is bound and determined to rectify this "crisis" (along with others like lack of blacks in SOCOM). And it doesn't matter if they have to eliminate all real space travel to dumb the agency down to the level that can support this additional white tax. Same thing with the SOCOM; operational readiness and capability is secondary to diversity in importance.
This just means, once you eliminate merit, the organization is no longer operating at its maximum capability. And that is how every agency across the government is. They have tossed overboard standards for the CIA, NRO, FBI, etc., in the name of diversity.
The agencies that have merit-based standards (aka, have a diversity crisis) will be crippled in the name of progress.
You forget women too. Did it kill you when women want equal rights, old man?
Equal rights or preferential rights?
You're right.
Trav
You've been watching too much t.v.. The FBI was no better before than it is today. Remember Edgar Hoover? He said the Mafia didn't exist probably because he was utilizing them to do his dirty work. I could go on for hrs. about his faults which I am sure most people are aware. The CIA ? Remember Allen Dulles and his gang? There is a lot of dirty dealing linked to him and his brother. Both agencies using experimental drugs on unsuspecting U.S.military, co-workers, and citizens. The Church Committee findings. The list is long.
Oh buddy you have no idea how many lists I'm on.
They can take my guns one bullet at a time. (Add that note to my "profile" on the list.)
all i know is that i can still buy guns and my name goes through the atf background check without problems so far. i guess i am not on the no fly list or the terrorist watch list.
Get in line.
You yourself are also on many lists here in the USA.
Pot calling kettle black.
This IS the list.
If everyones on the list...who will be entrusted to take care of the list? ;-)
Why the list keepers, of course.
And where is the list of all lists that are not on their own list?
Thank you Faux News for releasing me from the grip of Rupert Murdoch’s propaganda. After substituting old footage of Mitt Romney supporters booing Paul for the last CPAC straw results, I have stopped cold turkey. No more Hannity, O’Reilly, Beck, Greta, Schmuckabee, now I can spend all my time on alternative media, zerohedge, et al, and find out the TRUTH!
Cable News, a Barbarous Relic.
Fair and Balanced?
Since I got rid of Sat TV I have had 70% fewer headaches, more money for gold, and I don't miss any of the lies on Fox news.
Well played.
I cancelled cable tv/Sat and bought a projector. Now I can engineer my own "programming".
Incredible reporting of it even here in the UK, Paul didn't even merit a mention.
Question(s) for the Americans out there: I like RPs stance on ending the Fed but I find his stance on abortion disturbing. The rest of the field are god-bothering-pray-the-gay-away mental ward escapees or corporate shills and the whole thing will be decided by who gets the most money from Wall St anyway. Is that it? Is that really the best you can do? Jesus fucking christ tell me there's more to it than that?
ethical people probably find you and your stance on abortion disturbing.
The only way US citizens know to be ethical is through US citizenism. Considering the nature of US citizenism, it is quickly resolved.
But indeed, US citizens love to depict themselves for what they are not, so they love to depict themselves as ethical.
If I am not mistaken, his stance on abortion is that the federal governement shouldn't make a law regarding this matter. Each states will have to choose on their own if they allow abortion or not in their state. Yes Paul is personnaly against abortion, but he won't make a law against it.
abortion is about eugenics and destroying the family culture. rockefellers set up planned parenthood. so, it was a big psyop. that really makes me sick. Made whores out of good christian girls when there were no consequences. what a way to break down a good society . well done communists!!!! CLAPPING...... WELL DONE.
Shit if we can kill babies why not weed out gays and jesus quintana union goons?
You didn't sumarize what you think his stance on abortion is. He states his personal disdain for abortion and usually tells the story as to why he personally is against abortion. He never ever mentions that abortion should be illegal or that government should be in the middle of a personal decision that doesn't effect another person.
The abortion issue is a purely political one. There are already laws about murder or killing another person. The abortion term is bu11sh!t and created in Washington DC. It is used in debates between canidates so the sheeple can check all their boxes and be convinced someone is really a rep or dem.
Politicians pray on the stupid and superficial. They give vague answers so they can make something mean whatever they want. RP is vague about abortion because he needs to be to appeal to republicans. He intentionally talks about his personal experience and leaves out the part about what the government should do about it because his position, although a conservative one, is not a republican one. See Barry Goldwater for real conservatism.
Notice how vauge you are about implying what RP's stance is and your vague term of being disturbed by the undefined stance you are disturbed about. Are you a politician?
do let me know when a foetus is awarded personhood, like a corporation. oh, and when the sperm-donor part of the foetus is held responsible in any way for the conception.
I'd have a lot more sympathy for the argument if anyone *crickets* were in the least bit interested in the outcome (life) of the foetus - again, all responsibility continues to accrue to the female, irrespective of situation.
but yeah, in the end, it doesn't really matter - the frankenfoods are already at work on fertility, and the environment will soon finish the job. vote whatever makes you hard.
It's up to the government to award personhood?
Thanks for the site!
Russia and China have nothing on the American Oligarchy. A candidate ties for first, and is ignored completely by the media.
We have no voice. We are officially silenced.
What are those first couple of sentences in the Declaration of Independence again?
oh... here's the relevant tidbit:
well yea but I thought corporations are men now.
Only moron Mitt would mistake persons for People. To wit: US Tax Code Title 26 Section 7701. Definitions
(a) When used in this title, where not otherwise distinctly expressed or manifestly incompatible with the intent thereof - (1) Person The term "person" shall be construed to mean and include an individual, a trust, estate, partnership, association, company or corporation. Thanks to Findlaw.comI got a question, why is overseas income not taxed on corporations? I say we treat them like people. But then I want to pay my tax like a business, tax on profit not income.
OJ killed fewer people than DuPont Corp.
They only get treated as persons when it is to their benefit to be treated as such. When not, oh well. Why can't the government incarcerate corporations? If you or I kill someone, jail is probably in our future. A corporation kills someone and simply pays some cash. Why?
Income is defined as the profit generated by corporations doing business within the United States. A US citizen is considered a corporate entity in this way. Federal employees also generate income. Signing a W-4 makes you an employee of the Fed. US Gov. See; 26 USC Section 3401. Definitions
(c) Employee For purposes of this chapter, the term "employee" includes an officer,
employee, or elected official of the United States, a State, or any political subdivision
thereof, or the District of Columbia, or any agency or instrumentality of any one or more
of the foregoing. The term "employee" also includes an officer of a corporation.
Chances are the IRS has no jurisdiction overseas. Just like they have no jurisdiction in the union states or anywhere outside the areas designated in the US Constitution in Article 1 Section 8 Clause 16.
@Tunga: They have worked hard to change it
Thanks Jorgen but please note:Draft Form 8938 -- "Statement of Specified Foreign Financial Assets". Instructions for Form 8938 are not yet available.
Treasury publication 515 explains how a "non resident alien" (that's a union state sovereign) can experience an absence of liability to owe internal (meaning inside the District United States as referenced above)revenue. That form P515 has been substantially modified since 2009 so as to make it more confusing than ever to anyone interested in the emancipation process is evidence desperation the IRS is feeling. Bottom line: Tax code is municipal or corporate law and only has jurisdiction over corporate entities that make themselves liable by registering their corporations within the District or claiming status as US citizens. A national of the United States living outside the District US and simply exchanging labor for pay is also outside IRS jurisdiction.
@Tunga: The reality is that IRS taxes even people born in the U.S. (automatic citizens and it does not matter if the parents were here legally) who left the country right after birth. This example illustrates what happens if you are a dual citizen residing abroad and have not filed your foreign income with IRS. I believe the U.S. is one of a very few countries taxing non-resident citizens on foreign income.
@ Jorgen; the difference between a US citizen and a National but not a citizen of the United States has to do with birhright upon the soil of a free and independent state. If you're born on a military base or in the District of Columbia then you are property of the US Congress and they can tax you as such.
If on the other hand you recognize your rights as an American and were born to American parents upon the land of a free and independent state of the union of the Republics ( check the preamble to your US passport for the word 'national') and you can differentiate between the 3 distinct definitions of the term "United States" as provided by the USSC in Hooven and Allison then you have a chance to free your self from the clutches of the IMF's private collection agency AKA the IRS.
Well, with Bachmann running, Obama can officially celebrate his second term right now! We are stuck with Obama for another 4 years boys.
<http://www.youtube.com/embed/VtVbUmcQSuk
Not news to 99% here, but worth a reminder.>
He has it absolutely backwards. The press DECIDES with their coverage who becomes president. The dolts that make up the voting electorate get ALL of their information from the MSM. They buy into the RED/BLUE paradigm and end up electing either of two approved candidates (approved by the PTB). The MSM don't ignore Ron Paul because they don't think he has a chance to win the presidency, it's because they don't WANT him to win that they don't cover his presidential bid.
RP effectively tying with MB in the straw poll. Here it is 9PM Sunday and MSM including Fox still talks about everyone except RP......sickening........So much for the "FREE" press.....
"Media Admits to Ignoring the Trught"
"Media Admits to Printing What It Is Told by Politicos and Corporate Bosses"
BTW, is Randy Travis backing Bachmann because of all these rumors that her husband is gay?
No. Made me laugh.
The MSM are simply chasing for customers and they are doing this by giving what some customers want.
Ron Paul's fans (Paultards) want to feel out of the system, they want to feel excluded while they are included.
Paul, as their representatives, can not be included. If he was, Paultard would look for the next non included candidate.
What do Paultard look the MSM for? To check that they are indeed excluded. They want to be reinforced in their perception. And the MSM admitting that their candidate is ignored, just like them, is even better.
So we have MSM chasing for ratings and giving viewers what they want to hear.
Funny as funny. Paultards want the MSM to send back the image of themselves they wish, that is people who are ignored, excluded.
But, when it happens, instead of seeing that a sign of being within the system, of being acknowledged by the system, Paultards really take it as a sign of being ignored.
Congratulations, you win Fucking Idiot of the Day Award. Of course that was your real goal with that stupid fucking post. So you should be happy. Back to Cuntville for you.
One person enters a room and makes this request: she wants to feel ignored.
How to satisfy this demand? Of course, the satisfaction of her demand means she is part of the system and not ignored. But well, US citizens prefer appearances over ...
Same for Paultards. They want to feel outta the system and the system treats them as if they were outta the system. Of course, it means they belong to the system.
Isnt life funny as funny in this US world order?
See mental health help as quick as you can. You are babbling nonsense.
LOL
US citizen giving free advice?
US citizens should rework their propaganda and have to start to realize how cheap their propaganda is.
It took a little hunting, but here's a coupon for State Fair Corn Dogs to go along with your Fucking Idiot of the Day Award. AnAn deserves it.
http://statefairbrand.com/
Oh, yeah, well you are AnAnonymoustard!
Look, I won the debate!
Hey AnAnonymousTard: that was real witty, the "Paultard" thing. And since you call yourself "AnAnonymous", and are thus not included or identified in any group, just like you claim that Ron Paul is not, that must mean you are actually one of his very best fucking secret fans (VBFSF). Your "opinion" on this matter does not even qualify as rational thought. I suggest that you immolate yourself in a Vegematic, and change your avatar to "Soylent Green"
Wrong. I do not look for representation. Therefore I can not be represented. Neither by Paul nor any other.
It is that simple.
Welcome to reality for the US citizens subgenre known as the Paultards.
Spock here: Jim was wrong about the Soylent Green comment. You are apparently some species of anarchist. Fascinating. Where is your planet located? Is your race a group of symbiotic beings, who just naturally agree with each other? Or are you alone, because you have killed all the others?
I do live under the US world order.
It is that simple.
US citizens and their cultural reference points. So cheap.
The "US World Order" is an abortion - a collection of power-grabbing, war-mongering, closet imperialists, genetically spliced businessmen/politicians, joined at the hip by the 666 mark of fiat money, who are even now, as we speak, seeding the final seeds of world economic collapse. From the ashes of that collapse, a "non-US World Order" will emerge, run by people who don't even have to pretend to be nice. Ron Paul is the only person who wants to dismantle the "US World Order" before it dismantles us. Ironically, he wants to do it by simply enforcing the US Constitution, and by returning to the gold standard. What a novel fucking idea.
Pretending is pretending. The next world order will only be a change for US citizens in this regard.
The US world order is the expression of the US People popular will. And the Constitution has been instrumental in the establishment of the US world order.
So, you must be some kind of "enlightened being" by the way you talk down to everyone, and you have condescended to channel yourself through ZH. How quaint. Enlighten me some more, oh worthy one. Can you actually dispense any wisdom that does not involve riddles that are coupled to the modifier 'tard?'
The man was Tea Party before Tea Party was cool. 'Nuff said.
Awesome username
fuck the tea party asshole, ask karl denninger about the tea party, you snowblind shit for brains retard
Do you even know what the Tea Party is? T.E.A. = Taxed Enough Already. This is my description of the typical Tea Party patriot (based on my friends and acquaintances): flies the Gadsen flag, stacks gold and lead, believes in limited government, wants to end the Fed. What part of that do you have an issue with?
does your heel stiletto?
listen to denninger,,,,,, your values might be rightous,but not being aware your views are being hijacked by the conservative right wing is disgusting,,,, who pays the bills for all those get togethers of the tea partiers? oh the cock bothers, faux news, and basically the underground christian right wing funding apperatus
"Listen to denninger" How's that working out with Fukushima?? He said all is weo. Weo, it ain't.
You belong on that site, not this one.
Ah, yes, Fukushima. Hospitals already getting people with low white blood cell counts and hair falling out in clumps.
Hundreds of millions more to go - Dr. Busby.
On The Beach, Bitchez!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%281959_film%29
your values might be rightous,but not being aware your views are being hijacked by the conservative right wing is disgusting
Evil politicians always say they believe in good things like prosperity and freedom. Are you suggesting that those who actually endeavor to create prosperity and freedom in their own lives are being comprised by those in Washington who pay lip serves to those ideals?
The Tea Party is not a group of politicians in Washington. It's every individual who has the guts to say, "No!" to Big Brother.
Koch Brothers > the endless amount of parasites that feed off the R's and D's. A little perspective, shithead.
I've seen too many evangelical pro-'Chamber of Commerce' ultra-right corporate-leaning chaps touting more deregulation.. Transparent Koch brother apologists.
Don't mind the guns, just get them pointing in the right direction - Towards the self-elected 'masters' of the universe (aka, the elitists).
the references to the Koch brothers on here are already hysterical, but combining "Koch brothers" and "apologists" gets you the gold for meaningless talking-point drivel. its an updated version of the 2005 underpants gnome theory of debate:
1) "Halliburton!!!"
2) ???????
3) I win the argument
4) Bush
To be an 'official' apologists for a doctrine, one needs to know they're being used?
In the beginning there was talk of 'out with incumbents' - that was a dangerous message, but face it, the TEA Party was hijacked by the siren song of the uber-right's numbers and the MSM's portrayal of rallies. That pushed most of us away, and now the majority of incumbents are secure again. The TP is also trying to hijack Paul's rEVOLution for a second time with MSM's help.
Do PACs and lobbyists also not exist in your world without billionaire activists? My world has a correctional facility construction company with a hand in Arizona's immigration law. And groups that say Social Security can never work, unless you force American's to throw their money onto the gambling tables of Wall Street.
It could be spelled out that A=C and C=F but if you're a little slow, then you'll scream and stomp all day that A does not equal F...
Bachman said in New Hampshire that she would do away with all financial regulations imposed by the US Government.
Less government includes letting Wall Street commit unlimited crimes with no recourse? (Well, besides what we already have)
There are many sides to the 'Tea Party', not all good. Ron Paul is not a Tea Partier. He's an American patriot, and in his later years, he has decided to risk his life for what he believes in. Who here would do the same? I already have.
you that dude that was taking the beat down at the Lincoln memorial or something ?
That is pretty much it, oh and does our best to keep it clean and to help others less fortunate than us.
Only now the Language being used against TEA includes Terrorist, extremist etc etc etc by those who are against TEA.
Take a chill pill monkey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN50ZU6jVwM
What is Mandalorian Armor made of?
Tea Party was cool? When?
The People will remember this. I will remember this.
RON PAUL 2012 - Save our Republic or start preparing for collapse.
im affraid he will be shot if he gets elected,,,,, remember kennedy telling congress to make silver dollars,,,,, squids dont like that,,,,,but he would be a great martyr,,,,, maybe thats what it would take to get us off our asses and take back what ever remnent of our country is left
Where and how, when Kennedy got shot is a very powerful Mason thinking.
I am not a Mason.
Kennedy was not trying to break the FED cartel with his EO about silver. Griffin did a long treatise on this:
http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=jfkmyth
It merely delegated his authority to the Treasury Secretary.
He got whacked for something else.
pods
The media is owned by the cartel...bitchez!
ironically, ron paul is the only candidate who has a clear articulate stand on the political issues of the day and a plan to implement his positions. the only thing known about the rest of the candidates is they are well versed at using wedge issues to influence voters and they represent the interests of the 1%ers.
and don't forget the hairspray....
Would be great if he could abandon teevee media and run a campaign strictly on the internet and win! What statement would that make ?
They would have to test the internet kill switch.
they still will not acknowlege Ron Paul when he wins the Presidency
Thanks to sites like Zerohedge and Dailypaul for keeping this front and center. Every time the media does this it is like kicking a hornets nest. Be very careful MSM.
Too may "truthers" and contrail gazers at DailyPaul. Why do they insist on mixing their message with that of Ron Paul when he explicitly stated that 9/11 conspiracies are preposterous?
Sorry Bachmann, if you have to do something for it, it's not free.
I also seen a flier going around too that said "Come by our booth and watch the filthy whore Bachmann stick a 14 inch hot dog down her mouth, if you vote for her we will give you a free hot dog"
Write in Ron Paul
there was a greta von struwtfitis that had ron paul in a landslide....we try to educate them about pm's....we now must try to educate them about ron paul.....i know some of you in the know guys know he is owned by the controlled opposite whatever the fuck that means.....but i will take a chance that he may just be the real deal.......the old guy is kicking ass, especially with the very youngest of us....without mr. paul where is there any hope at all......and make no mistake he will never live to see the end of his term but he is willing to risk his life for us.....and thats good enough for me....please don't make me explain the motivation behind past assinated presidents....and in advance any grammar nazis feel free to go fuck yourselves at this time
Don't worry about grammar, you made good points.
Assassination brings up an interesting point. Who will be Ron Paul's running mate?
Palin.
that would make sense. Prez Palin it is then.
Roseanne Barr?
http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-08-10/columns/roseanne-barr-for-preside...
Dude you forgot a period....oh fuck me.
I think the political system is so busted that only blood will water the ole liberty tree but I'll still put in some effort and vote for RP just for shits and giggles. He's pretty much the cat's meow.
All I know is I own PMs.
If Ron Paul doesn't get elected, everything goes to shit and I win.
If Ron Paul gets elected, I get my country back and I win.
Only kidding, we already hit the iceberg, changing the captain now won't prevent the disaster. I hope Ron Paul wins, becaue he is right about what is going on and had the cheek to say so before it was obvious. I would rather go to the bottom of the sea with truth and honor on my side.
On the other hand, I own PMs. Sucks to be anyone else without PMs.
[...we already hit the iceberg, changing the captain now won't prevent the disaster.]---Smiddywesson
Well put, Smiddy.
We can only hope a better Captain will get more passengers to the life boats.
Whoa there sparky. The life boats were cut in half by number to save precious deck space for the wealthy.
I hope Ron Paul "wins" too - I'd like to test my notion that the President has zero power & is merely a figurehead to spin stories/TVnews/blogposts around.
Also, it appears it has again become necessary to kill some more hopes for change, go figure. This time it's the "right" side's turn.
You hit the nail there. He knows he'd have a good chance of being killed yet he's willing to risk his life for his country. That's the definition of a patriot.
Why there is constitution, laws.... and order when people representing 1 % of 81% of US stock holders force tirany upon people.
Ron Paul is a kook. I'm not voting for anyone who promises to cut social security so I guess Hopey wins again by default.
"Dont touch my stuff, I have a right to steal from others to pay for my retirement."
Yes a kook. Hr wants to end the multi trillion dollar empire and offer the youth the chance to opt out of a ponzi scheme that they will never benefit from anyways. Total kook.
He must be insane, he is challenging the free shit empire.
free myass. i don't expect to get a dime back so lighten up.
Then why do you advocate the continuence of the fraudulent ponzi scheme?
It's not a ponzi if the federal reserve is abolished. I like a lot of things about Ron Paul except he is a republicunt which is to say the exact same thing as a demonrat. Abolish the fed, end the rule of wall street and the mic and everything else will work itself out naturally. Social security is the only thing that stands between many people and bankster induced poverty. What's left of the economy would go down the shitter if ss was ended. There wouldn't be a grocery store or restaurant left in freedumb's land if it weren't for SS. When the stock market goes to zero there won't be any pensions left except for SS.
Look up the definition of Ponzi scheme. The only difference between Social security and Madoff is the color of legal authority.
And why is it that every time someone here is in favor of ending social security, medicare, medicaid, etc... your response is WHAT A FUCKTARD KILL THE POOR PEOPLE'S PROGRAMS BUT KEEP THE BAILOUTS FOR THE BANKS, CORPORATIONS, ETC... Many here who propose killing off the mad spending spree, most if you're only counting those in favor, ALSO come down firmly on the side of KILLING IT ALL; social security, medicare, medicaid, MIC contracts, bank bailouts, corporate welfare, etc... I want a small federal government, one that isn't responsible for anything beyond the absolute basics that can only be done by a federal government (defense of borders, national interests, court system, transportation/communication network). I don't want a fed that's responsible for my health or my retirement or my light bulb purchases. A small fed that WORKS FOR THE STATES. Not a bloated big federal government responsible for everyone and everything that is in charge of us all.
ALSO come down firmly on the side of KILLING IT ALL; social security, medicare, medicaid, MIC contracts, bank bailouts, corporate welfare, etc...
The problem is that you will only succeed in killing SS because in that you are aligned with the bank maggots and billionaires. The rest will NEVER HAPPEN. Listen to the msm whine about cutting a mere $100B/yr from the Pentagon budget. They talk about the jobs lost but it isn't about jobs lost it is about maggot billionaire profits. They will cut SS first and the other stuff never and many here cannot see that they are dupes of the ptb.
Listen, I'm under no illusions whatsover. I want them to cut it all. I don't think it will happen. I also don't think they will touch SS either. Although they should.
I happened to watch the debt ceiling debate on cspan. I don't know if you caught any of it but I was struck, STRUCK, I tell you. The first debate after Boner cancelled the vote. In order to kill time, the House debated like 17 amendments. Regular business. All spending bills since we are now operating for 3 years without a budget. Every single spending bill passed. Every single one. I counted over $100M in spending. Nothing critical. You know, $30M for Parks and Forestry. $10M here, $10M there, $14M for Natl Endowment Arts. Not a single dime cut from spending. Two hours later, you've got every Representative, pro and con, debating Boner's bill, all talking about cutting spending, again, pro or con. Let me repeat, 17 spending bills, NOT ONE CUT A DIME OF SPENDING. Non-essential stuff. I mean, if they can't cut $14M from the Natl Endowment for the Arts, the equivalent of one Picasso, they are NEVER going to cut a dime from anything.
you're smoking crack.. I would love to be able to invest that cash MY way NOW.. since I won't be able to partake of it later. Let me take care of my parents.. the gov't can stay out of it.
So would I ass hat, so would I. Also, if I were in charge I wouldn't tax you for SS either, it would all come straight from the congressional printing press. I paid and paid and won't get jack shit back and neither will you but mark my words the streets won't be safe if you let the banksters impoverish half the country. You are a fool.
The people need to be protected. 46M on food stamps now. USA is such a rich country how can people advocate for the interests of a thousand billionaires yet let tens of millions of fellow Americans struggle in the gutter hand to mouth.
A land of opportunity for the top 1%, what a crying shame.
You tell me how someone like me, just barely getting by (like about 75% of americans are) can take care of our parents? I want to and I will find a way but sometimes it seems impossible. Get a second job you say? Ok....let me find a decent primary job first bc they are pretty hard to come by these days. I don't take any handouts for myself but I honestly dont know what is going to happen to my parents. My dad is ill and isn't eligible for medicare. I can't pay his doctor visits and prescriptions. What are we supposed to do? I am a die hard Ron Paul supporter, so dont think this post is sarcastic. I just really dont know what people are going to do....
Soc Security is one of the most treacherous of all the government's deceptions. Epic lie. Even intelligent ZHedgers will erroneously argue that SS is viable and mathetically feasible (ideology aside).
Under different economic circumstances SS would have to be redefined and phased out over years.
However, circumstances as they are, SS could end over night. Best case scenario, SS is effectively phased out over time through inflation (again deception).
My goodness, how did people ever live beyond 65 without SS? I guess people just died at 64 or 65 years old. Weird. For thousands of years. (Rhetorical question.)
MY KINDOM FOR A SPEL-CHECK. Tyler! (My grammar and diction are bad enough. Toss me a bone here.)
heh, there is a spell check. just one more thing you don't understand.
I might ask to borrow one, but yours doesn't seem to be working.
(Have a good weekend, buzz.)
It's worth keeping some kind of perspective on the history.
Most people DIDN'T live beyond 64-65 before Social Security. A few did. And they survived by living on farms with their families. That was the way people all over Earth survived throughout most of history, because societies were primarily agrarian.
Now far be it from me to support SS benefits myself--don't get me wrong. But the whole point of the system being introduced in the first place was to make the collapse of agrarian society more survivable for the vast majority of the population. Retirement age was set as it was in '33 because it was higher than the average life expectancy, which back then, was generally comparable to your average CAREER expectancy.
Once you stopped finding a way to scramble for your survival, you were supposed to die. Like pack animals.
We'll be back to that soon enough, it seems. Most folks just don't seem to understand the implications of their desired policies.
[Most folks just don't seem to understand the implications of their desired policies.]---blunderdog
Hi blunderdog. I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I'm afraid I'll have to mark you down as one of the "intelligent ZHedgers that erroneously believe SS is feasible and viable."
Feasibility aside:
The "desired policies" you say, are not mine---they are those of our Founding Fathers. The Fed govt is not authorized to create a retirement program such as SS. The states, however, may as they are not specifically limited from doing so in the Constitution.
History is our guide, as you inferred. And this goes to my rhetorical point. What in the world did seniors ever do before SS? What did we ever do before medical insurance? Medicare? Welfare checks? Subsidized housing? Unemployment benefits? Food stamps? Credit cards? My goodness, did anyone actually live before 1933?
What in the world did seniors ever do before SS? They didn't rely on the government.
Agrarian yes. But, seniors can't go it alone on a farm. If you had taken your own wise counsel to review the historical record, you would have concluded times before SS were tougher but sustainable.
I'm afraid I'll have to mark you down as one of the "intelligent ZHedgers that erroneously believe SS is feasible and viable."
Well that's silly. I don't believe anything of the sort. If you read the post carefully you might even find a bit of a hint about my opinion on SS.
All I did was mention some background for you, must be your tendency towards binary opposition leads to the erroneous assumption that I support something you oppose.
Not even close.
Ok. Ok.
Let's just start over---from the beginning. I may have misread your post, esp. if I was using my "binary" mind.
Blunderdog, thank you for your thoughtful reply. Indeed, rural drift and increasing lifespans joined the chorus crying out for assistance by the 1930s. Unfortunately, as I'm sure you'll agree, FDR was President at the time.
Charity is a wonderful thing. Science is a wonderful thing. Government is not wonderful.