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The Media Admits To Ignoring Ron Paul
Why? Because if "the unelectable one" were to become president, the financial kleptocratic, oligarchic status quo, which just so happens is the big legacy media's biggest advertising base, would be wiped out overnight. Next up: big media becomes very small media. The clip below from CNN explains it all.
As for the reason why Bachmann took first, one picture speak a thousand words:
h/t John and Travis
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You don't know me.
You are full of shit.
F.O.
I fear you are probably right, Perry is after all the Bilderberg approved candidate, and Paul is presumably not.
"What does that mean?"
It means that I think Ron Paul is a man of integrity. It also means that I do not believe the GOP will nominate Ron Paul. No need to sit there and dwell upon that any further. Those are two very basic statements that should be easy to comprehend..
"If Perry loses to Obama then in hind sight one will be able to confirm that he had no chance but you will have voted for him anyway."
This is a ridiculous statement that merits no further reply.
"Why are you willing to vote for Perry when it's entirely possible that he won't be able to win?"
It is possible that the Earth will be destroyed tomorrow, but I still plan to be here tomorrow and the next day. I also do not believe Ron Paul will be the GOP nominee.
"And do you really believe that Perry will do what's necessary to preserve this country?"
I believe Rick Perry is a much better choice than the FOOL who occupies the WH today. I believe Rick Perry will win the GOP nomination, and I plan to vote for him during the primary and the general election.
Well, you've chosen your poison.
John, you are obviously caught up in the false right/left pardigm.
No, I am not. President Obumble is a terrible leader. I believe Rick Perry is imminently better qualified.
yes. you. are.
Don't presume to tell me what my convictions are. F.O.
Now, now.....obama has a little 'd' besides his name, perry has a little 'r' besides his name, they both are subsidized by the same corporations and banks. So when you think you're making an actual choice because of the little 'd' or 'r', you're really not. I would never presume to tell you what your convictions are, you've plainly stated them.
"I would never presume to tell you what your convictions are..."
You attempted to categorize me as someone who doesn't know one candidate from another. Spare me your insipid lecture. You obviously know very little about Rick Perry, and you are making yourself look daft.
Don't cry too hard when Ron Paul gets pushed aside. My guess is he will be out of the race right after the New Hampshire Primary.
Ron Paul stayed in the race until the end in 2008 and this time he has more cash and far more support. Why would he withdraw after NH?
It will be obvious to Paul that he has no realistic chance of winning the GOP nomination. However, Perry has a real chance of winning and defeating Obumble. Obumble has to go.
Perry will be just as bad as Obama. He will keep spending trillions on wars and bailing out the big banks. Perry is also in favor of government control of your medical care. Recall that he tried to make every sixth grade girl in Texas take a new vaccine called Guardasil which claims to reduce the incidence of cervical cancer in women who have unprotected sex with multiple partners.
He was trying to proactively reduce the instance of cervical cancer among young girls who were too uninformed to take preventive measures for themselves. He later admitted he was wrong in attempting to mandate the use of Gardasil:
http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=19795
A man who respects freedom would not have tried to force children to be the guinea pigs for a new vaccine in the first place. And who is going to call President Perry on the carpet next time he tries to use an executive order to sell out children (or anyone else) to the pharmaceutical companies?
He publicly recanted his original position. If you want to make him out to be the Bogeyman, suit yourself.
He's not the Bogeyman but he sure as hell ain't no Ron Paul. Expect nothing but trouble from a Perry presidency. But no matter, he can't win anyway. There's no way America is going to elect another Texas governor who could be portrayed by Timothy Bottoms. Not even to replace Obama.
Watch and see.
"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." H.L Mencken
Your mind is being controlled by a very proficient propagandist(fox, cnn, msnbc) and you are allowing them to mold, use and abuse you. The beauty of it all is you can't see it and you blindly protect it.
If there are any tears to be had, they will be yours. Your choice in Rick Perry is just a mere symptom of what is wrong with America.
Compadre, you are not qualified to size me up.
As an FYI, I do not watch Fox News, CNN or MSNBC. I do not have any of those channels on my TV.
Give it a rest.
Perry also did a great job of sabotaging the Texas state legislature's attempts at fighting the goons at TSA as well. But that's what to expect from a Bildeberger who sold his soul long ago to the establishment! Of course, he was also Al Gore's Texas presidential campaign manager!. Ha, ha ha!
Ronald Reagan began his political career as a Democrat and was an ardent support of F.D.R.
So he began and ended as promoter of big government. What's your point?
Tuco made this comment:
"Of course, he was also Al Gore's Texas presidential campaign manager!. Ha, ha ha!"
I reminded Tuco that Reagan was also once a Democrat and he became decidedly more conservative.
Don't badmouth Reagan. He lead America out of the abyss after Carter.
The Reagan Tax Reform Act of 1986 expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit which allows some people to get more money "refunded" to them than had been deducted from their paychecks in the first place. So, yeah, in the sense that Reagan redistributed wealth from those who earned it to those who did not he "lead America out of the abyss."
Reagan also signed off on the The National Commission on Social Security Reform (1983) which raised the payroll deduction, lowered benefits and made some benefits taxable.
Reagan talked the talk but he didn't walk the walk. He could, however, nap the nap.
What a myopic view of history you have. Funny you didn't mention any of these:
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2004/06/14/editorial3.html
Facts is facts. Reagan was a big government redistributor of wealth regardless of how many fawning opinion pieces you present.
Your inability to see that Reagan, Obama and Perry all serve the same special interests suggests that you are the one afflicted with myopia.
I have a suggestion. Go ahead and move to a cabin in a remote area of a sparsely populated state (e.g. Montana). Get a generator and some MREs and some ammo and then go bury burrow yourself inside your bunker until the apocalypse.
Adieu!
I oppose government interference not the fruits of society. Are you able to tell the difference between these two totally different things? If you want to be regulated to death why don't you move to the state prison. Lots of kindly folks watching your every move in that place. You'll love it. And I'll be free to be free.
You oppose government interference. Fine. Wait, let me think about this. I wonder if you ever BENEFITED from the many government services made available in your life (assuming you are a US citizen). Yes, our tax dollars pay for these services. Then again, there are many people in the world who WANT to come to the US because our standard of living is better than their own:
Perhaps the FDA kept some of your food or drinking water safe...
Perhaps you have used the Postal Service...
Perhaps you and/or your parents and/or kids may have used a public hospital or public school...
Perhaps you have driven on paved roads...
You may plan to consume Social Security or Medicare (some people WILL consume more than they paid into these plans)...
Perhaps government standards made your automobile safer or your ride on commercial aircraft safer...
National Defense kept you FREE from forcibly speaking Japanese or German after those nations both declared war on us...
The list goes on and on...
Go bury your head in the sand and wait on the apocalypse.
Only big government can make an apocalypse, a free market can not. Thomas Edison and Henry Ford created products that made people's lives richer. Only governments make Weapons of Mass Destruction.
"Only governments make Weapons of Mass Destruction."
That's funny. I thought armaments were made by private corporations like General Dynamics and Raytheon. Uncle Sam doesn't manufacture materiel.
That's why New Hampshires Secretary of State William M. Gardner termed all those extra and uncounted votes for Ron Paul in the last primary "Statistical anomalies".
The GOP establishment does not want Ron Paul. Watch and learn.
But, but, I thought it is false to say that 97% of the mainstream media is controlled by the same consortiums and people. You know, it makes you a conspiracist nutjob living in a trailer park.
that straw pole was reported on bbc news channell over 20 times today and Ron Paul was never mentioned.. but much time was devote to 1st and 3rd.. I repeaat Ron Paul never mentioned...
Anybody- I say anybody so roundly hated by the media, the ziocons, and the gumment bureaucrats as badly as they hate Dr. Paul, makes me think he might actually accomplish something in office, maybe even give us a real chance.
That little old fellow is making them wet their depends every time he's on tv.
Let's send him a check, that will piss them off.
Michelle Bachmann was a prosecutor and investigator for the IRS.
She worked on Jimmuh Cahtuhs campaign, she is a worthless stooge for the PTB.
She is the controlled resistance here. The Tea Party Activists need to read more of her bio.
When the establishment media did their utmost to demonize and belittle Rand Paul during his senate run his poll ratings got even better. So, belittle Ron or ignore him as much as you wish!
Bachmann..... Good for chaos, good for gold. You go girl!!
Down to the hushpuppies!
Good for corn dog sales. That picture was like something from When Harry Met Sally.
anyone who votes for anyone other than ron paul is just another soldier for the status quo and a fool for doing so. it is not a matter of agreeing with him or not. it is a matter of standing up to the powers that be to let them know they should be very afraid of the people.
Did Paul suggest to write off all the debt owned by FED ? That would surely restore the confidence in USD..
MSM, losing relevancy at breakneck speed. Really now, this is SO BLATANTLY DESPERATE!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!
This is how AMERICANS voted:
http://www.topix.com/issue/gop-debate-aug11
MSM, GO TO HELL!
Where is hairy perry in that poll? Oh, he didn't debate. Just like Palin. Why? He can't put two rational thoughts together that's why. But he has electibility. He can thieve and suck up to global bankers with the very best.
MSM and wall street have become pretty irrelevant to normal folks. I continue to be mystified as to why people persist with supporting people like mitt romney etc.. When at the end of the day, it is just about getting elected, but not really producing anything of substance.
Funny,
I said the same thing this clip said a week ago and got junked for it!
Breaking news: Ron Paul admits to ignoring Ron Paul. Translation... Who gives a flying rats fuck? Go about your business and may God be with you.
I've worked for Libertarian causes, so I feel entitled to bitch about this.
The MSM are dying a well deserved death, but there are other problems. It is next to impossible to get women to support Libertarian candidates. They often claim to be Conservative or Objectivist, but choke on actual responsibility. This will change, if ever, when only those who work for a living in the private sector are allowed to vote.
Libertarians and Objectivists are often our own worst enemies. Ron is a case in point. His campaign platform was once a simple and profound pledge, to get government out of our wallets, our bedrooms, and our medicine cabinets. His latest book is an alphabet soup of issues ranging from A- Abortion to Z - Zionism. I almost always agree with Paul, but getting involved in every damned cat fight known to man is NOT the way to win elections. Hope I'm wrong.
The GOP candidates will be:
President - Rick Perry
VP - Michelle Bachman
Not what I want, but I've seen too many horse races to let wishful thinking get in the way.
They will stomp Obummer into the ground;))))))
...while continuing all of Obama's worst policies just as Obama has expanded upon the failed policies of George Bush.
seriously who fucking cares?
stop pretending like the chosen oligarch puppet means a god damn thing to us little guys.
ignorance is revolting.
Some of us are not spoiled children living in mom's basement. I've tried to explain to the Tylers that if it looks like Yahoo, stinks like Yahoo, even for a brief time..., look what it attracts.
oh ok, by buying into the false dichotomy, you've risen above Y! posters.
thanks for clearing that one up.
Hey, *I* voted for Ron Paul and donated money to his campaign last time around and I hope I get the chance to this time too. Don't sell all women short.
no, you.
The reason Dr. paul wont get the nomination is because REPUBLICANS wont elect him. stop blaming the corporate media monolith for denyng him coverage.
the reason hate groups love him is because he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act and belives business's shouldnt have to serve blacks or jews if they dont want to.
bottom line: its time for the guilletines.
I agree with much of what Ron Paul says. Unfortunately, he has the charisma of a wet noodle and since this country's ignorati only vote for photogenic public speakers whose campaigns are well-financed because they've sold their souls to the Wall Street oligarchy (banks, big pharma, MIC, etc.) and aren't boat rockers but ass-kissing conformists, he'll never be elected. And since he won't be running for Congress next time since he's devoted himself to this hopeless prez campaign, we won't hear so much as a word from him in the mainstream media after he's no longer in Congress.
Nah, the economy will need to collapse before anything significant is changed and then the jerk the idiots elect will probably have much more in common with Adolph Hitler than Ron Paul.
I don't want to upset you but I think that Ron Paul is really cool and Justin Beiber is not.
to all those who oppose ron paul and will not vote for him, YOU DESERVE WHAT WILL COME!
oh cut it out will ya? what does voting mean anyway? nothing , of course...
Ron openly rooted for the Stone Age and a chance to start over on TV last week. This is not a crowd pleaser. Nor a favorite of corporate supported TV. When asked what he would do, for the economy, "let them all fail".
Perry is Bush "light" but fits in well with the Pubs.
The more we learn about our world, it seems the less we want to react to that knowledge.
speaking as a texan, i am here to tell you. perry is not right for the job. never was and never will be..........
Please expand on that.
you know that son of a bitch already has his own campaign jet airplane with his name on it in big letters? he is the longest serving governor of texas in history. that should tell you that most people in this state vote for the lesser of two evils , whatever that means. perry has a lot of baggage, he will fall on his own, i promise you on that. when the jews come a calling he will get out his very own personal silver plated knee pads that he got when he went to israhole a while back, you know, (where they go to get their heads screwed on straight by their yiddish daddies).
Since when does that matter??
"When asked what he would do, for the economy, "let them all fail". "
That's enough to get my vote right there.
In related news.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bja1YtvN9s
World media provides cartoons for the brainless masses. And, just why does local news always do a pet story? Duhhhh.
News has little to do with reality as everything is a spin to control and the rest is media entertainment.
So? Why do any of us care about mass programming media? Get involved locally, create local weekly meetings on meetup.com for Ron Paul or conservatives and create local activist groups that are going the direction you want. This means most of us are conservative by nature, abhor large governments and their waste and want an active control of our governments who ultimately reflect our wishes. We can control our local, county, state and federal governments but we have to be LOCALLY ACTIVE, VOCAL and VOTE. What is your local town council, mayor and city doing? Do you know everyone's background, voting record, productivity to the community and entire family income source? What's the annual salary and annual financial history of all your local elected officials?
No reason your community cannot post annual and monthly accounting online, including salaries. Know who gets your tax money and how much is spent every month. If they don't do this right now, CHANGE IT...DEMAND TRANSPARENCY...DEMAND PUBLIC EASE OF ACCESS. We have a family budget...well, so does your local town, county, state and federal government. Have your local government officials personal net worths increased greatly? Are they doing better than you? It starts with the crooks right where you live. Clean up your local community and work your way through the state and federal elected and appointed officials. Do you realize some local judges are appointed and do not have law degrees? Why is that? Why do YOU allow that? Doesn't matter Democrat or Republican........if they contributed to our problems VOTE THEM OUT.
Personally, I believe if we just replaced every government politician with our local postmen (at avg over $40/hr, thanks union) we would be better off. At least they haven't refined their graft and corruption skills yet. So, definitely TERM LIMITS are also a necessity.
All the present puppet candidates are "fronting" for some oligarchy or other (Perry for Big Oil who is scared to death of Paul, etc.) except for Ron Paul who has never changed his pro-people stance re anti-dollar debasement in all his years in Congress. This man is the Harry Truman of our times. Let's hope the American people who have been asleep at the wheel all these years will wake up to that fact before we crash and burn.
people, people, stop getting so excited over nothing.
RP has a snowball's chance in a supernova of being (s)elected, because like the 'markets', it's a rigged game.
i thought that here above all else i would find some level-headed acceptance to this fact.
our house of cards is so far gone that even RP getting in a position to make some change is like a tree trying to stop an avalanche.
everything must collapse before a new equilibrium.
Bachmann is a female Obama, a lot of promises, empty ideas, doesn't want to touch the cores of problems. But she is a good saleswoman.
There's a tiny difference, although it has no effect at all on the end result.
Obama's a fairly smart guy who spent a great deal of effort on becoming the most vacuous and ineffectual empty suit he can be.
Bachmann's just naturally stupid.
Samey same, though.
Making a Ron Paul yard sign today..... Give me a hand on what to write.
I was thinking something like:
Ron Paul 2012
Peace = Prosperity
Toss some idea's out if you have a chance!
Because the Constitution matters...
Take back our country vote Ron Paul
Become an IMF debt slave vote rick perry
Perry is a Bildeberger attendee. What does that tell you!?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?304615-Perry-s-records-of-ta...!&s=8d9a9da736be537411fa8c6e79e0196f&p=3425476#post3425476
i think perry has been to israel more than once the last few years. why would the governor of texas go to israel of all places? hmmm? and now he is trying to keep travel records secret........yep , he is bought and paid for by the enemy....
so why vote. why vote for any of them? forget about it........
Michele Bachmann = Corn Dog Gobbler
Rick Perry = Bush Lite
Ron Paul = Losing Vote
Synopsis: You can suck on a bush lite (if voting for perry) while watching a p0rn queen gobble a corn dog (if voting for bachmann) and comtemplate your lost vote (if voting for paul) which bought you the knowledge that you had the integrity to vote (given the choices) what was best for the country just prior to it's collapse.
Don't think he has a shot in hell of getting there but I will still write him in as my choice regardless. The bottom line is that whichever candidate is elected there will be no meaningful change in the big scheme of things. We've already been nudged off of the peak onto the stainless steel slope after having been dipped in tefflon lube. All that's left is the (ever increasing in speed) trip to the rocks at the bottom of the hill.
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The major media conglomerates are also owned by the kleptocratic oligarchs which are major institutional shareholders of the network parent companies. THe MSM is also pining for $60 billion per year in taxpayer subsidies if/when the statists become entrenched. So, the MSM has a huge vested interest in getting more statists elected, mostly from the left.
is the 'left' even visible anymore?
what exactly is that? pro-choice, for gay marraige? freedom from religion?
throw a dog a bone.
Ron Paul 2012...spread the word, we have the opportunity here to unseat the status quo.
Fox News hiding the peoples choice? Here is them taking down their own poll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NoYWDRzeouE
If he makes eliminating Fox News a plank, I'll vote for him!
Hell yeah! MSNBC is the one and only source for the well informed comrade!
I don't watch the idiot box. Perhaps it's useful for those who need to be told what to think.
The idiot box is as useful as a website, a radio, books, or even a University education – you just have to be capable of discerning truth from bullshit. If shutting off the TV works for you, that’s great. In the words of Harry Callahan "A man's got to know his limitations.”
No mainstream media bias against Ron Paul?? One guess who "Other" is in this poll... http://www.usnews.com/polls/who-is-your-pick-for-the-2012-gop-presidential-nomination/results.html FOX news online poll. Must be driving the neocons and zionists at FOX crazy!! Click on "view results" http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/poll/here-is-the-gretawire-iowa-straw-poll-vote-in-this-poll/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnewsinsider%2Fgretawire+%28Gretawire%29
They hate Mr. 57.89% Paul at the US News.
Ron Paul is the best chance this Country has of getting back to being free.
I like Ron Paul's platoform and common sense however he is not going to win. What will happen is Rick Perry will win the nomination and have Mitt Romney as his running mate. With that BO will lose and we will have a zionist neocon as president replacing another zionist. Ron Paul's platform will not go well with the electorate and the media will TRY to connect him to white supremacist groups. That will kill his campaign. I am black and I support Ron Paul. The idea hate groups support him makes no sense. I guess I am an Oreo. lol
the msm tried to do that last time not going to work this time.
http://www.youtube.com/user/85allthewaylive#p/u/14/k6sYZxZi4qQ
Quite impressive. In my heart of hearts I hope Ron Paul wins. I think his time has come. I think his message resonates with many. I think he may truly be the last hope this country has to return to constitutional principles. I just see so many establishment blocs standing in his way. I now add the prison complex to the list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYmAxTVKPrA&feature=player_detailpage#t=70s
"he is not going to win"
maybe so, then again maybe the only thing that's really preventing his nomination is the fatalism of those who support his nomination.
"Ron Paul's platform will not go well with the electorate"
actually what i'm hearing on the streets is that his platform is beginning to resonate with even those who i thought would never have the ears for it, even if they're only beginning to understand from whom it's coming.
"I guess I am an Oreo."
you're not the only one brother. all the more reason for those of us oreos to begin to speak up to calmly & clearly disspell the black magic propaganda that swarms around him.
skin color does not another race make.
then must make vigilant those who agree, else another race on the surface it be.
What lobby jackasses are funding Ron Paul? He's in the House. The House is where all legislation gets started, so how are his bills going? not getting out of the Senate? Ok, that will not change if he's President.What spending bills has Paul introduced? We have to focus on the NOW, and Paul's success in the here and now.
Re "Peter Griffin": How about "Ron Paul....the People's candidate!" No one else can say that.
Re Weimar Ben Bernanke: Rick Perry/Mitt Romney???!!!! Not a rat's chance in hell. Every VP on a ticket MUST be a total asshole in order to keep the President from being assassinated. Always has been; always will be.
So she's bribing voters already.
Stephanie Miller is a CUNT.
Yes, and Truman can't beat Dewey and a rookie cannot win the 2011 PGA Championship!
Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez
Not very pretty or smart one either. My labrador wouldn't lick that bitter cunt if you spread peanut butter all over her know nothing face.
+1 LOL
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The bankers want Romney for pseudo change
Dem wits chant "Obummer", a liar deranged
The media doesn't want the change we need at all
the truth, reality their scared of Ron Paul
Their all a bunch of bums
its why we are uncomfortably numb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkJNyQfAprY
If hateful rhetoric is the qualifier for membership in a hate group I would say that there are plenty of well-qualified haters right here on ZH. The most wonderful thing about hate is that it destroys not the objects of the hatred but the haters themselves.
So party on and please, juck me so we'll all know how many of you there are lurking in the bushes.
what's not to like about a dude who links porno?
btw, the junk button is gone.
American Spirit? Really?
Don't trip over your bong when the proverbial ZH door hits you in the ass...
Big Media is already very small. Mother of all Depressions is on it's way. Media won't know what hit it.
How can a guy that can't even win an arguement be president? You're right, he can't. And the only reason Barry won is because he has all of the brutha's in Manhattan and Chicago that rely on entitlements getting out to Barack-the-vote! Problem is, once austerity finally hits a city near you and these same brutha's burn your cities down, I doubt they'll be up for showing up to vote in 2012...Colt Malt Liquor has one hell of a hang over...
It's D-day for Barry next year, regardless of who you support, the only thing Obama deserves is a rope. Along with his other tax cheats and cronies let's get rid of this piece of progressive, ignorant feces!
Pouring another Scotch!
The oligarchs pet monkey, Obama, has performed every trick his trainers have demanded of him. Why would he not "win" the next "election"?
There was no hope, and certainly no change...I mean the LCD's and sneakers didn't get any better in the ghetto. Trust me, grew up in Chi-Town and I can tell you if "they" didn't get more, there is no repeat on election day. Besides, Acorn is dead in the water and they helped rig this disaster last go around.
Key is, who can beat Barry? Sorry, it's not Paul. We need someone else...all eyes are not on Perry. Fingers crossed...
That Fop couldn't beat his own meat without a banker whipping him.
Really you think the establishment status quo candidate McCain could be just replaced by a cheerleader and viola the problem is solved? Doubt it.
He was an A&M yell leader. Get real.
Correction: "all eyes are not on Perry", meant to say now. Yes, I think he may be the great [white] hope. Did I just say white? Oh no, don't call the BO squad on me.
I'm done- I tried the Republicans for thirty years- still got the fed, still got the same friggin tax code, still got empire building all over the world-
If the powers that be are so worried about Paul- He's got my vote. At the very least, I want to tell my future Grandkids I voted for him.
If the deteriorated discourse of this microcosm is any indication of the deteriorating discourse of this country, and, the deterioration of discourse of a country is any indication of a country's stability, than there is no hope for us. To translate, if there is no bastion left for the rational exchange of ideas, then, hey guys and gals, were in the dark ages. So, for those of you, and you know who you are....relax, pop another xanax and put down the keyboard.
I would love to see Rob Paul win. Talk about prophecy. The fundamentalist Christians will go nuts. And you think they called the sitting prez the antichrist. Paul will cut everything to the bone. 2 million soldiers will return home to no jobs. The only people who will make it are the die hard survivalists, that's probably 1% of the population. What's better, to keep the current 1% of kleptocrats in power, or dissolve the nation into chaos? It will be the haves versus the have nots on a grander scale. The haves in this case being those holding weapons. Gasoline will instantly hit 20$. That alone will cause upheaval. Gold may well hit 5000 or 10K , who cares. You won't make it out of your fortress gate to buy anything or spend anything on anything. I wonder if Paul supporters think that NAFTA will simply revert and "that huge sucking sound" will be the factories floating on the wind back into the USA? It'll take 30 years of some heavy sucking. In the meantime places like Bronx, NY will empty out into your neighborhood like a scene from Grapes of Wrath, except it won't be so quaint or well mannered. I'm ready for the Ron Paul challenge, are you? You'd better hope so.
Non-productive activity does not raise the standard of living, and destructive activity (killing people and blowing things up) overtly lowers it. The only solution to the entire world spiraling down the toilet is to return to productivity. But productive activity will not increase until the people currently producing nothing are no longer paid for useless and destructive activities.
The surest way to convince people to become productive is to stop paying them for being non-productive or destructive. Could anything be clearer than that?
The fact is, if RonPaul was to be elected, the economy would have a sharp but short-lived correction, after which it would boom like never before as the millions of people who are not willing to "take a chance" on a new endeavor would "go for it". And there come back the jobs.
Perhaps most importantly, the media will no longer be able to completely discard the philosophies of liberty, justice, individualism, productivity, honest economics, kleptomania in DC, etc.
I hear you Stan I really do,
I'm betting my last vote on it. However I do believe the sharp shock of the correction will be too much for some, and it won't be so short lasting. I don't think the urban areas are going to handle it too well. In the 30's a million or so Okies was one thing. This time the displacement of the underclass will be so huge, so devastating, that the 2 million returning vets will be needed just to put down the insurrection. It will not be pretty.
There aren't enough people "threatened" by the underclass to make a lick of fucking difference.
When 75% of the country is "underclass," the future is already pretty clearly spelled out. What keeps us functioning so far is that many of that 75% are not aware of the situation.
If/when a third of that 75% wakes up, you're completely right. "Society" as it currently exists won't survive the "correction."
Heaven forbid anything might change, right?
One thing you don't factor in is the fact that all the federal government programs that "protect" the poor from short term problems will be fully functional during the first year or so of "economic collapse". NOTHING will change for those people during the crash. The situation WILL change for millions of massively overpaid federal busy-bodies who get pink slips.
So there will be no "displacement of the underclass". In fact, after the year of sharp correction, the underclass will once again be able to find productive work and/or consider starting their own business (since the endless restrictions on micro-businesses like "hot-dog carts" will be removed or go unenforced, albeit not fast enough).
The collapse would be huge, but not in a way that scares so many of you. Oh, and Ann, not Stann. :-)
As a fundamentalist, I LOVE RON PAUL.
I don't have to agree with him about everything. That would be for the brain-dead leftists who call anyone who disagrees with their "chosen one" a racist.
Ron Paul is the only one who any clue about economics. He is alos the only one who can end this Kleptopalozza by the Robber Barons.
I wish him viel Gluck!
If Bachman is the best the Repugnicans can come up with they are in Big Trouble imo.
Mother fuck, I hate the establishment media.
I don't know if this was previously posted but the race is now: Romney, Bachmann, and Perry. Oh yeah, one mention of Paul who tied Bachmann in Ames straw poll.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican-race-snaps-into-focus-with-unlikely-top-tier-of-romney-bachmann-perry/2011/08/14/gIQAbiwvFJ_story.html
"...that all the instruments of propaganda are coordinated to influence the individuals in the same direction.... The skillful propagandist then has power to mold their minds in any direction he chooses, and even the most intelligent and independent people cannot entirely escape that influence if they are long isolated from all other sources of information."
F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom
Ron Paul..good by FDIC/SSN promises ...HELLO brave new Third World 4th-a-July...There was WMD in IRAC we sold them TONS a nasty weaponized bio bugs...mostly from Florida, and Texas companys....Hell the United States Senate issued the export licence....better be worried, the Iranians got all that nasty shit..now we got MRC set up in all jurisdictions..look out.....just sayn
"The unelectable one" .... I call bullshit
See ... Carter,Bush,Obama,Clinton,Pelosi,
No such thing as unelectable in American Politics, the dumb keep getting dumber.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZKZzAGikKU
Jim Rogers supports Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiAL76OoXp0&feature=player_profilepage
Ignored him? Hell there is a pretty good chance they were in on screwing him (out of an Iowa straw poll victory). Word on the street is that Ron actually won the thing and that there were some Republican Establishment crowd "irregularities." Naw, they wouldn't do that, would they?
Oops, fat finger double post. Sorry gang!
monetary revolution with Ron Paul and www.silverrevolucion.com
WOW! RON PAUL IS TRULY "ONE OF US," THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, INVISIBLE!
That would make Perry NOT one of us.
RON PAUL for President 2012! Fu*ck the MSM!
Ron Paul makes sense!
Ron Paul makes sense!
Ron Paul makes sense!
Not another liar, Ron Paul for President 2012~!
Not another liar, Ron Paul for President 2012~!
Sorry, I got a little excited.
Sorry, I got a little excited.
Oh FFS, stop bitching and start shooting the guilty. You know who they are.
Listening to Americans bickering over Republocrat vs Democans is like watching a mass brawl that started over which end of a boiled egg to open. Guys, guys, both your major parties AND the recently new ones (Tea party) are cutouts created by the Elites to fool you into thinking you have a choice. To keep you chained to the fantasy that you can change the system by voting - via electronic voting machines that are *proven* to be totally rigged.
As for Ron Paul, he's a nice old fella, has a good spirit, but he's one old man. The only 'choice' you have with Ron Paul, is whether his campaign dies by MSM suppression, or he wins then dies by assasination soon after. There is NO WAY he will be allowed to live to take office. It is the height of cowardice to pin your hopes on Ron Paul, because by doing so you doom a brave and good old man to die sooner than he would anyway.
You all complain about the FED kicking the monetary disaster can down the road. But every election you occupy yourselves with now does exactly the same thing. Kicking the absolute requirement for violent revolution down the road.
George Carlin was right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-p9uTw2xuI
The only answer is massive bloodshed.
All the MSM, the entire Federal structure (Congress, House, Executive), Courts, much of the top military command, all the three letter agencies, all the large banks, the FED, FEMA, most top corporate executives... try that for a start. If wash still not clean, run it through again.
yes.
You see, you HAVE the answer and just don't notice. Yes, the federal reserve would have RonPaul assassinated, just as they did with JFK.
But you correctly identify that the only answer is massive bloodshed, and you mean massive bloodshed of the predators-that-be and predator-class (AKA "ruling class"). Well, exactly what do you think would absolutely, positively, completely make the most energetic and correctly focused people go TOTAL APESHIT and BALLISTIC?
Answer: If Ron Paul is elected, then assassinated, this will drive the liberty wing of the american people completely off the deep end. They will lock and load and give you exactly the "massive bloodshed" we need. And unlike a bunch of poor kid-thugs in some big city, the liberty wing knows exactly who needs to die.
So by your own logic, Ron Paul needs to be elected.
And that's a fact.
PS: And there's just a small chance the predators-that-be would recognize and fear this possibility just enough to give them pause. So there actually is some small chance they'd pull back and try to wait out his 4~8 years in office.
Support Ron Paul.
The legacy media is the legacy media because... Stephani who.......
As for Ron Paul, he is a crank. But even cranks are correct every now and then. The reason Ron Paul is the favorite of this douchbag crowd is because they think he would be an easy target for our Douche Bag in Chief.
and we want to slam this kind of democracy down Iraq's throat?
wonderful.
No more stupid, obvious bullshit. Ron Paul 2012!
Under Ron Paul the US may initially avoid foreign conflicts but will eventually have to deal with conflict within, between increasingly powerful states vying for resources and security, without the federal government re-distributing wealth to a degree and supressing extreme policies individual states will evolve to be increasingly polarised and soon there will be calls for preemptive strikes between states to prevent the "inevitable", at that point with a weak US military, China or someone else may have to intervene to sort it out and we will be back to square one as a colony.
Everything is rigged, you only have an iillusion of honest elections, or of your freedom. The Fed must be abolished and all the the criminals arrested and put on trial!!!
I am given to understand that many "hate" groups also like beer, Saturday nights, puppies, and all sorts of subversive things. But just because the SPLC claims that a group is a "hate" group, doesn't make it so.
I hate being ripped off by my government to support parasites (both rich and poor) and to support foreign wars that are not in the best interest of the US.