Meltdown Part 3: "Paying The Price"

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Sun, 10/02/2011 - 02:49 | 1730320 rocker
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Everyone Needs to Remimber as posted on ZH:  "The Collapse Is Coming...And Goldman Rules The World"

Reference past post:

We are all beholden to GS and Lord Blankfein really believes he is God. 

Doesn't anybody question why during the Greece protest they had Goldman Sachs on Banners directing much of their problems on GS.

Please: When the Fuck can we keep focused on who is doing what to who.

Surely, Lloyd Blankfein's 100 million dollar bonus was NOT earned after he was bailed out by Hank Paulson and Neel Kashkari, both prior GS employees.

Where is Neel Kashkari now.  Guess: The Bond King Pimco.  The circus continues.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 02:56 | 1730324 Yamaha
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Sun, 10/02/2011 - 03:54 | 1730357 AldousHuxley
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US Government censors mass media just like in communist China. They don't want you to see that the revolution can be real.


Occupy Maine - rain or shine


Occupy Asheville, NC


Occupy Seattle


Occupy Denver in front of Federal Reserve


Occupy Austin, TX


Occupy San Antonio, TX


Occupy Portland


Occupy Los Angeles


Occupy San Francisco - Marines joining in


Occupy DC in starting protest against corporate personhood


Occupy Chicago in front of the Federal Reserve


Occupy Boston - "Fuck the Fed"


Occupy Wall Street New York   500 arrested on Brooklyn Bridge


More launching near you:



It is a class war. 1% vs 99%. Make banksters pay!

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 04:25 | 1730377 AmericanFUPAcabra
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Don't have a link handy but i know there were about 50 people in downtown Spokane, WA. The police made them take down their tents and anything deemed semi-permenant, as it was against a city ordinance for transients, bums, blah blah. They are still out there with similar signs. 

well there is a facebook for #occupyspokane. dont have a fb tho nor would i 'like' it while uncle bens in town

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 04:45 | 1730393 AldousHuxley
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American forefathers did not ask for permission to protest from the King.


Also, in NYC, banksters are using their power again with money. War is on.

JPMorgan Chase recently donated an unprecedented $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. The gift was the largest in the history of the foundation

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 05:02 | 1730408 Taku
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I've already commented on 'how to protest' (sarc) previously, so won't go in to too much detail, however, I'll say this, dare to protest, TPTB will try to put you in jail

Whatever y'all do, do it smart.

Regarding the banks, if they charge you to access your own money, why don't you demand they be charged for accessing your taxpayer-funded bailout money they were so happy to tap?

For the little guy. Stand up. Do your part. Be heard.

Do it for yourself.

Do it for the kids.

Do it for justice.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 05:18 | 1730416 dlmaniac
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Employment is a human right?1 Since when anyone owes you a job?Completely utter BS. These French crying babies have nerves.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 05:31 | 1730422 Incubus
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Let's put your fat asshole out on the streets for a few weeks and see if your opinion changes about employment.



Sun, 10/02/2011 - 08:02 | 1730492 Z Beeblebrox
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So dlmaniac is out on the streets for a few weeks. Do you, Incubus, have a duty to employ the maniac? Or are you going to hold a gun to someone's head and make them do the hiring?

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:28 | 1730767 snowball777
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Is it the workers fault that banksters trashed the economy and the future for tractor sales took a dive?

These people worked for a living, made their bosses money, and got fucked for their troubles. If you can't understand that's wrong, then maybe you need to have your job tossed aside, and your children put in peril before you'll understand how screwed up this is.

Does management have a "right" to hold a gun to workers heads and tell them to get back on the line? Does management have any responsibility whatsoever?

Let's see how many tractors these rich (and profitable, as stated in the video) assholes can make with no labor.


Sun, 10/02/2011 - 12:14 | 1730841 Xibalba
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Jamie Dimons home addresses....for when you wanna send flowers.  


270 Park Avenue, New York, NY, US
1185 Park Ave, Apt 11l, New York, NY, US
398 Greenwich St, New York, NY, US
211 E 70th St, Apt 10h, New York, NY, US
388 Greenwich St, New York, NY, US
1185 Park Ave, Unit 17l, New York, NY, US

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 13:54 | 1730981 Zero Govt
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Jamie Dimons sure got alot of New York apartments, all paid for on enflated JPM profits on inflated business that were a debt ridden LaLa Land. Thanks to the taxpayer bailing out his delusional arse, he kept them. I wonder what they're all for? Is it for all the mistresses and hi-end prozzies or does he swing the other way, rent-boys that he pays for on Bank credit cards like Bumma that all the bwankers 'cleaned' through their over-regulated, never-regulated, sewer systems?!!

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 23:59 | 1732251 Michael
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I would also like to add, it is Private sector vs Public sector Warfare.

After all, it was the public sector that made all the decisions that got us into this mess, bankrupted the country, and ruined all our lives.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 16:08 | 1731293 sgt_doom
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Mucho thanks, Xibalba, I keep forgetting to post that, and to snowball777,

Nope, I believe it's the sociopathic greedhead banksters' fault, as they peddled securitized debt, that is, hundreds of trillions of dollars of worthless credit derivatives, which the Fed and other central banks rushed in to buy, thus the banksters sold worthless snake oil, then are repaid a second time by their front offices (the central banksters) bailing them out --- unfortunately there's still trillions more to go, and the banksters continue peddling snake oil (i.e., securitized debt: credit derivatives in thousands of categories, and ye olde credit default swaps at the naked level, etc.).

Then they want the rest of us to pay again for their crimes.

And the simplest excalamtion of the above:  it's over three years now that mark-to-market was discontinued (meaning they refuse to place a value on their worthless securitized instruments of destruction).

Thanks to all for some wonderfully intelligent and thoughtful comments today!!!!!!!

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 13:39 | 1730947 AldousHuxley
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The young Americans do not have a right to employment


Then I say

  • Wall st. banksters do not have right to bonus from our tax dollars
  • Wall st. banksters do not have a right to employment from tax dollars bailing out
  • Wall st. primary dealers do not have right to cheap access to capital before anyone else more productive to get them
  • Older generations do not have right to screw the younger generation with LESS opportunities
  • NYPD do not have right to employment with money from JP MOrgan who got bailed out from your tax dollars
  • Executives do not have right to golden parachutes when their companies lose money and employees are laid off
  • Paris Hilton types do not have right to never have to worry about employment

It is not a question of right to employment, but which group is favored by the government and selectively given that right to employment. Society is saying their job is harming society and no, they should not be favored over productive sectors of economy.

Government favored employees:

  • police / military (hire half of working class to kill the other half)
  • wall st. (enable ego boosting gambling for the rich)
  • executives (slave masters)
  • trust fund babies in top 0.01% wealth (because inheritance trumps lifetime of hard work, brains, sweat, even luck)
Sun, 10/02/2011 - 17:20 | 1731431 Roger O. Thornhill
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It's actually simple - the system we fight against is not capitalism per se - it is collusion.

Collusion between governments and the TBTF banks/financial institutions.

Anti-Trust laws were supposed to prevent this (at least in the USA), but govt is bought out. If you think bigger govt will fix this you are wrong. It will be BIGGER collusion, regulations that prop up the monsters and destroy the small banks, and then we'll get IBTF banks (Impossibly Big To Fail).

Break these institutions down into bite size pieces, then they can never hold us hostage again. 

I'm a libertarian mostly - but monopolies are NOT free trade, or a free market. Smaller is better. That was point of the US Constitution -> de-centralization.

What I fear is a false paradigm is being floated here - that we must have a tighter relationship between big banks and big government via 'regulations' that favor the TBTF's. And that just gets us sovereign defaults, and that can destroy the world. Or usher us into the most hellish scenario - one monstrous, unanswerable global government that there is no defense against.

BTW, may I just add... Fuck the Fed.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 17:46 | 1731479 Rick64
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Sun, 10/02/2011 - 16:53 | 1731391 Hacksaw
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No but maybe we can make sure the jack wagons don't have a right to make profits either. Maybe we need to get away from corporations where no one is legally responsible and go back to mom and pops where the owner has to look their customers, workers, and neighbors in the eye and are legally responsible for their business decisions.


Sign to get the money out of politics.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 15:03 | 1731061 dlmaniac
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"Let's put your fat asshole out on the street for a few weeks"

If I landed my @$$ on the street then it'd probably be that I have no skills to be worthy of a job instead of someone violating my employment human right.

We can blame the politicians & bankers for creating bubble job markets that sucked these workers in and then threw them under the bus when the bubble popped. But seriously no one owes you a job to begin with.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 16:10 | 1731299 sgt_doom
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Sonny, no one owes the bankster criminal sum a "get-out-of-jail-free-card" either, and certainly no one owed them trillions and hundreds of trillions of dollars -- and they should pay taxes just like the rest of us.

STFU, PAM!!! (punk assed moron)

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 08:23 | 1730506 Debugas
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it is not about jobs but about having access to the raw materials and tools to be able to work.


Let's say i want to be a farmer but i can not afford to buy a land. I have a right to  1/N of the land of my country with N citizens total.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 10:20 | 1730657 bugs_
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that would be 1/(n+r+i) actually.  citizens + residents + illegals.  and every day your piece will get smaller.  when you do get your piece, a year later you will have to give some of it up, to be fair.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:15 | 1730740 john39
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its about a system designed to funnel wealth and power into the hands of the few at the expense of the many.  debt based monetary system=slavery.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 13:45 | 1730956 AldousHuxley
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debt = slavery

that is the exact tactic used by human traffickers. only freedom you have it to choose which overpriced shitty prouct to buy at the company store and which brainwashing you' like to recieve from your corporate controlled media.


The trend is less freedom for you and your children. better wake up and push back or else your children will be born inside the prison gates where guards poing the gun inwards.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:38 | 1730785 DeltaDawn
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Debug read "A Dirty Life" and gain some inspiration. There are many land owners who are willing to let you farm their idle plot. There are several landless with thriving enterprises in my neighborhood. There are ways my friend. Get up and do it.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 09:32 | 1730587 smlbizman
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hey dl....its called fiduciary responsibility....asshole

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:11 | 1730736 LetThemEatRand
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"These French crying babies have nerves."

They also have guillotines.  Ms. Antoinette was quite certain that the people did not deserve more than they had.  They were worthless cake eaters after all.  How did that work out for her? 

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:12 | 1730738 Rick64
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Those workers earned those companies huge profits then when they have a decline in profits they reward them with a layoff? All the while executives of the company that didn't prepare for these situations are rewarded and living extravagant lifestyles.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:22 | 1730752 snowball777
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Since when is profit a corporate "right"? Since when is safety a "right"?

If you'd rather spend all your money defending your pile than have people working productively in society, so be it. No justice? No Peace!

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 12:16 | 1730844 LasVegasDave
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since when is a job a "right"?

Oh, I get it, now that you put a gun to my head.  I owe you a job.

Anarchists, communists, looters and moochers- meet my saiga 12 guage.  would you prefer double 00 or lead slugs?

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 13:12 | 1730910 snowball777
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Ignorant tool of the TPTB, meet my .22 Stinger; thanks for the 12-gauge!

Mon, 10/03/2011 - 00:14 | 1732267 NumNutt
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communist asshole.

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 17:04 | 1731411 AldousHuxley
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job is a right as much as survival is a "right"

Just because it is not written in the law, doesn't mean humans will not seek it.

When you don't give a job to youth, they will riot. Rioting becomes their job. When you don't give a job to the poor, they will sell drugs to your workers, commit crime, loot your store, adopt shit culture, whatever is necessary to surive as surivial instinct is natural.

They won't point a gun to your head for a job, they will skip the job and take your money. Your police protection fee increases. Insurance increases. Your cultural capital decreses. Your status in the world decreases. Your power and influence over the world decreases as they see that your rule of law is unjust. Overhead of society over such protection becomes a burden too.

Elites pass out welfare, unemployment, etc. not because they are generous, it is because history has taught them that cost of welfare is less than cost of securing their assets from crime. It is the more productive for society.


Your 12 gauge is no good when you are fighting those who have nothing to lose. You have more to lose than the downtrodden. It is like showing off your muscles against some punk kids in the ghetto.  Desparate people will do crazy shit. While you are fighting to protect your property, folks in China are progressing in productivity and will be wealthier because they are free from such burden.


In the end, nobody wants clusterfuck of a society.





Sun, 10/02/2011 - 12:35 | 1730876 bbq on whitehou...
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Is labor a slaves right? What rights do you have, when they can be removed at will by the state?

If you want rights, you need to have the ability to enforce them. These protests are attempts to enforce a right.

Agree or not its the right of the people to assemble, as it is a right of nature to give action to thought.


Sun, 10/02/2011 - 07:11 | 1730470 Snidley Whipsnae
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Lest we not forget...

  • First AmendmentEstablishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petition
  • Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE PEACEABLY TO ASSEMBLE, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 08:58 | 1730552 augie
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    if you still believe those words are valid you are up for a rude awakening when your "rights" are violated before your very eyes. America is dead, the longer we cling to this insane notion that the constitution means anything, is the longer the established power structure maintains it's dominance over everyone. It doesn't matter if you are a Lib or conservative, libertarian or card carying dem/republcan't, You are a slave. WAKE THE FUCK UP.

    None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free


    - Goethe

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:34 | 1730779 DosZap
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    Tell that to the young ladies  that were FENCED in that got maced for doing nothing but TALKING, and protesting NYC last week.

    Where were their rights?.

    Mon, 10/03/2011 - 00:24 | 1732279 NumNutt
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    Those were a bunch of stupid hippies protesting.......well actually I am not sure what the fuck they were protesting, but they were blocking traffic.  Those people don't know what to do with their time since Jerry Garcia died.

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 12:41 | 1730886 bbq on whitehou...
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    Congress shall make no law,! Tell that to every circumcised male who was born in the US. Circumcision was about religion. So much for congress and the law.

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 14:12 | 1731036 FeralSerf
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    Nah -- it's for identification, a brand.  Just like Nazi Germany, they'll make you drop your trousers to find out what herd you belong to.

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 12:53 | 1730901 Kayman
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    The criminal proceeds of the Too Big To Jail banksters is diverted into the protection racket.

    Where has Honor and Decency gone ?

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 15:15 | 1731167 Absinthe Minded
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    Keep up the good work, getting out the information is so important. Plan on attending Occupy Maine in Portland tomorrow. Thanks again.

    Mon, 10/03/2011 - 02:28 | 1732367 Freddie
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    Oddly the protestors seem to love King Obama.  I am starting to think this protest movement is a DNC/Chicago/Alinsky/Obam ops.  This is all looking rather contrived.  Nary an unkind word toward the Kenyan- FAIL.

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 07:19 | 1730474 MarketWatchTerrorist
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    Try to occupy any part of D.C. and you're going to get hurt.  The place is swarming with cops and they are well known for their brutality and corruption.  In NYC they pepper sprayed some cooze in the face and everyone flipped their shit.  In D.C. they'll probably beat a few people blind, and that's just another day in the capital.  Let the protest start and you'll see the full force of the police state on display - sound cannons, heat cannons, mobile X-ray scanners, facial recognition, biometric scanners everywhere collecting data, etc. etc. etc.


    You'd have to be a damn fool to try to protest against the establishment in its capital.  The restraint shown in New York will not extend to D.C., rest assured.

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 08:51 | 1730545 sasebo
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    What kind of meaningless crap is this? Give me a break.

    Should we change your diaper & blow your nose?

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 10:08 | 1730638 Bicycle Repairman
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    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 10:09 | 1730639 Confused
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    Remember: It is still .1% of the population feeding off of the other 99%. Why not protest? 


    "Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fuck with us." 

    - Tyler Durden


    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:53 | 1730796 DosZap
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    Try to occupy any part of D.C. and you're going to get hurt.  The place is swarming with cops and they are well known for their brutality and corruption. 

    Then force needs to be met w/force, and exponentially.

    SHIT goes two ways..............

    That is OUR Capitol,our country..............not theirs to do with, and to us as they please, as long as we follow the law, and he rules of law.

    The right to demonstrate peaceably is  OUR RIGHT,if met with violence should be met with the same violence.

    When the Protectors become the TERRORISTS,it will be time to take back the country, by force if necessary.

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 11:57 | 1730815 MarketWatchTerrorist
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    See my above comment.  The leftist females you see in this protest movement burst into tears at the sight of a gun and have never fired one in their lives.  So remove 60% of the "protesters" out right when it turns violent.  Women are useless in that way.


    Among the remaining 40%, half will head for the hills when the police start sweeping the streets with tear gas and sound cannons/microwave heat cannons, and so forth.  Among The remaining 20% only half will have ANY firearms training/background whatsoever, and only 2% will be willing to commit acts of violence, at which point the other 98% will condemn them.


    No, your dream is a fantasy.  Your revolution is dead in the water.  The only people in this country with the capacity for violence are on the right and they won't be fighting and dying for any leftist workers revolution any time soon.

    Sun, 10/02/2011 - 14:07 | 1731022 AldousHuxley
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    Sure, the class war won't be won over night. Slaves first have to realize that they are slaves. Even during emancipation, some slaves wanted to remain as slaves for the cowardly fear of their masters. Win the hearts and minds of the majority and you won half of the battle. The rest comes in time when you fight.


    Humans have imaginations to make dream a reality. History shows that those dreams are the most powerful force in nature.

    • Your forefathers had a dream of being freed from unfair taxation by the British royals who had the world's most powerful navy to beat other countries. How did they dared to fight? Guerilla tactics and lots of bloody sacrifices.
    • Martin Luther King had a dream too. What do you think were the chances of a black president when he was alive living in a country with most powerful military determined to make blacks second class citizens? These were the days of public lynchings my friend, and MLK eventually gave up his life. But his children have much more opportunities and fair representation than MLK could have imagined.
    • Ghandi fought for freedom in a foreign coutry of south africa for 20 years!
    • Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for 27 years when only white had the right to government employment
    • Vietnam protest movement was 7 years with many small and big marches, protests, and many innocent deaths including 4 at Kent State.

    Dreams don't come cheap. We have to work at it. It may not come this year...maybe not for another 30 years. But I sure don't want my children living as slaves. Do you?

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