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Michigan, Arizona GOP Primary: Poll Coverage And Webcast
The seemingly endless GOP primary goes through the states of Michigan and Arizona tonight, where Romney and Santorum are the key competitors, while Gingrich and Paul focus elsewhere. BBC reports: "Both men have been campaigning intensively over the past few days. Pre-primary polls gave Mr Romney a marginal lead in Michigan, and a stronger advantage in Arizona. Analysts say a victory in his home state of Michigan is key for Mr Romney. He has long been seen as the front-runner and favourite for the nomination - and currently leads the race for delegates - but has struggled to win over a strong majority of conservative Republican voters. Most polls will close in Michigan at 20:00 EST (01:00 GMT), where 30 delegates are at stake. Delegates will be awarded to candidates in each congressional district, with two at-large delegates also awarded. In Arizona, where polls will close at 19:00 local time (02:00 GMT), 29 delegates will be awarded to the winner of the state's primary."
Again from BBC, here are some of the findings from the exit poll"
- six out of 10 voters in Michigan on Tuesday were Republicans. The state's primary rules do allow others to vote, and around 10% of all voters identified themselves as Democrats.
- one in four said they had made up their mind in the past few days
- more than 40% supported the government bailout of the automotive industry
- most voters said the economy was their top priority
- in both Michigan and Arizona, about half of voters said they "strongly" backed who they had voted for.
- Six out of 10 Michigan primary voters described themselves as "conservative" - the lowest proportion of conservative voters in primaries so far.
Once polling closes, live updates can be found at the following maps:
Michigan:
Arizona:
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http://www.revolutionpac.com/Arizona-Michigan-Primary-Broadcast/
Rev PAC stream, for those who don't enjoy the barrage of bs
Fuck you status quo media, you cut off RP speech. Scared assholes, we watch it on CSPAN or revpac. You are forcing us underground, we are running for office (hiding RP support), we are young and we are taking over.
We are starting our own media that will be more popular and not have to watch your sorry sack status quo corporate bullshit anymore.
ZH is the new media.
That status quo better be scared.
More to come
Give it 20 or so years: these sorry sacks of old people shit will die off: internet-born 'revolution' is inevitable.
"Countries" and backwards governments are things of the past. Either they control the internet, or the internet's going to be like a sledgehammer to the "face" of their information ecosystem.
Doesn't even need internet anymore, they block the internet, we will meet on the street corner. A rider on horseback throwing RP pamphlets to the street.
Like the scene in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington where Jimmy Stewart gets the boys from his scout troop to print up thousands of newspapers because the established media is libeling him. While the kids are distributing the papers in a car the establishment thugs send a truck to run them off the road and they crash.
"Give it 20 or so years: these sorry sacks of old people shit will die off: internet-born 'revolution' is inevitable."
As a child I thought a similar thing--That the world would change for the better when the flower power 60's 'revolutionaries' started running things. But sadly they forgot all about peace, love, and understanding once they got a taste of corporate power.
I had lunch with RP last Wednesday (along with about 50 others.)
At that lunch I met more than one republican party official that was "joe citizen" 4 years ago, and had worked their way up the chain of command. The party has already been infiltrated; it may be too late to effect a change before the collapse, but if it is not, I have little doubt you'll be seeing some large shifts in the republican party positions at the state level in another few years.
What I'm not sure of is if the existing establishment will go scorched earth -- if they do, we're witnessing (with the current primary season) the start of the implosion of the republican party. If they don't, we'll likely see a significant return to 60's era republican ideals (e.g. Goldwater.)
There will be change. What that change is to be is unknown.
I can only hope you are remotely correct.
Don’t forget the male ego and power hungry warmongers. They have probably existed since the beginning of time and will probably still be around long after we are all gone.
I just talked to someone who knows someone and they thought Ron Paul wasn’t even on the ballot and that he was out of the race (good job MSM fuckstains) and they weren’t going to vote – didn’t believe it until they researched it themselves.
I voted Ron Paul here in Michigan …. Not that it matters. Anyways … firing up the old house in Mexico up let me know how WWIII turns out for you guys …
"we are young and we are taking over."
Actually I'm 42...is that still young?
It'll be ancient in a few years, unless you have your own, private bunker.
My conscience is clear. I voted for Ron Paul.
Cool. What about Ron Paul's conscience, campaigning for Romney and all?
How much did you get from Bernanke's tit?
I srsly dont knw what the point is for you trolls to come and spout that kind of stuff.. everyone here apart from robotrader is smart enough to figure out that everything you guys say is a load of rubbish, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
Ron Paul holds the trump card. "Elect me as primary candidate or I will run as independent in the general election and ensure your defeat." Why won't he go for it?
The rumor is he's paving the way for his son's run. I don't buy it, he's smart enough to not trust the SOBs, but it may be a factor.
I could see him exchanging not running for something significant, if not shutting down the fed outright, maybe ongoing unobstructed audits and enabling competiting currencies, or some major nod to state's rights. But I agree, he's the one actually in position to chose who wins the Presidency if he doesn't get the nomination.
My dream would be RP as President, but if this doesn't happen, eliminating legal tender laws, allowing gold to be a competing currency and as a result eliminating cap gains tax on AU gains v. FRNs would be pretty awesome, as it would set up long-term resolution of a lot of problems..
All this talk about RP running as an independent is pointless. All RP supporters will write him in, whether he runs on an independent ticket or not.
In the end it won't matter. Obama and the Democrats already bought the state of Michigan, that is to say its electoral votes, via the auto bailout. Firmly locked into the "D" column come November with a payoff of $7000 per each unionized worker. The oligarchy at work.
Enjoy the election...
Ron Paul is going to ask Helicopter Ben Shalom why the Fed has destroyed our money!!
Fuck you Bernanke!
AMERICA FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEAH!
http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/
Goodbye, First Amendment: ‘Trespass Bill’ will make protest illegalJust when you thought the government couldn’t ruin the First Amendment any further: The House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday that outlaws protests in instances where some government officials are nearby, whether or not you even know it.
The US House of Representatives voted 388-to-3 in favor of H.R. 347 late Monday, a bill which is being dubbed the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. In the bill, Congress officially makes it illegal to trespass on the grounds of the White House, which, on the surface, seems not just harmless and necessary, but somewhat shocking that such a rule isn’t already on the books. The wording in the bill, however, extends to allow the government to go after much more than tourists that transverse the wrought iron White House fence.
Under the act, the government is also given the power to bring charges against Americans engaged in political protest anywhere in the country.
SHIT MEETS FAN.
While I agree with your point, most Americans are too lazy and/or too indifferent to give a shit. Sorry but its true.
Yeah but they'll care once their kids don't come back home after they've been sent to prison for years following the next OWS protest.
Again, I agree. However by then it could be too late.
Yes but people still have guns in America, don't they?
Lazy?
Indifferent?
How about just plain Stupid.
It's funny how these bozos in government can reach agreements when it comes to suppressing the rights of the people, but when it comes to protecting us from financial predators and terrorists, no laws are ever broken or prosecuted.
I do think it's fair to say these "leaders" are afraid of the people, as they should be. I also don't think these laws are going to protect them, once the dam bursts.
Democracy is rigged.
Game's always rigged, man.
A "reset" is just a formality, that's it. The fools'll rush in and think everything's fair again and it's back to the same old shit.
What's funny is the results for Mackinac County, MI, just above the Mitten.
Mittens and the Frothy Mix had damn near identical Diebold numbers: 667 to 666.
Glendale police officers and their dogs are tracking at least three burglary suspects who allegedly kicked in the window of a Bentley and stole a briefcase full of cash, police said.
[For the record, 4:55 p.m.: A previous headline on this post incorrectly said that a suitcase of cash was stolen.]
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/burglars-steal-suitcase-of...
Vote for Jaime, he has scruples....... or -- he wants to screw people?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/jamie-dimon-newspaper-reporter-...
Will Santorum surge from behind??
It always does.
Possibly.
In other news, I'm leaning toward Deandre Brackensick thus far on this season's "American Idol".
He's cute, and talented. Two important traits for which I demand in an Idol winner.
Goddamn it! "Dance Moms" is on now, too! Thank hell for DVR machines.
Ron Paul's results speak loud and clear.
He's got a good message, but he's no match for TPTB.
"Get with the PigMen Program or get out of the way"
Romney is going to win, hand-picked by Wall Street.
Reality always beats fantasy. Ron's been getting the last laugh for about a decade now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KONpt9a6HrI
It will be a brokered GOP convention.
Doesn't matter who the nominee is, unless the is a war with Iran (and $200 oil) or JPM and GS pull a LEH, Obama wins 4 more years.
So in this case the PigMen standing behind Romney all lose.
Ron Paul's message has resonated. Loud and Clear. Despite the status quo trying to block him at every turn.
I figured Newt for a guy who understands inflation.
Eris will bless this whole election. At the GOP convention there will be bribery, druggings, RP infiltrators, arrests of RP's genuine delegates, riots, a brawl on the convention floor, and possibly Jeb Bush getting the nomination. RP will continue his run. There will be increasingly bizarre smear campaigns. Glitches in the Matrix will come fast and furious. Economic chaos will give him a last-minute tsunami of popular support. There will be a bunch of bungled assassination attempts a la Castro. More chaos, intimidation and blatant vote fraud in the general election, then a flurry of lawsuits, then the Electoral College will be a sequel to the GOP convention, then chaos in the House as they are forced to choose between Ron Paul and Obama. When the Republican House chooses Obama, Texas will secede and the real chaos will begin.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
"most voters said the economy gubmint cheese was their top priority"
That's more accurate.
Meanwhile:
Doubtful Signs of a Criminal Case Against MF Global
Federal authorities are struggling to find evidence to support a criminal case stemming from the collapse of MF Global, even after a federal grand jury in Chicago has issued subpoenas.
Investigators, unable to find a smoking gun amid thousands of e-mails and documents, increasingly suspect that chaos and poor risk control systems prompted the disappearance of more than $1 billion in customer money, according to several people involved in the case.
Fucking criminals
Anybody else getting pissed off at this point? If Thomas Paine were alive today instead of saying "these are the times that try mens' souls," he'd simply be shouting, "What the fuck? WHAT THE FUCK!"
Agreed...
Pretty much.
I guess they want everyone to believe that currency (that comes to life from thin air) can return in death to thin air...like it was never real.
Some sort of cosmic balance, no matter what labor was expended to earn it.
They want your life and likely your soul as well.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like
men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
--Thomas Paine
"In the representative system, the reason for everything must publicly appear. Every man is a proprietor in government, and considers a necessary part of his business to understand. It concerns his interest, because it affects his property. He examines the cost, and compares it with the advantages; and above all, he does not adopt the slavish custom of following what in other governments are called LEADERS."
--Thomas Paine
If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute.
--Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791
Government financial support of a majority of the population (of all economic classes) has short circuited this safeguard. One of the more insidious aspects of socialism is that it causes citizens to despise government for the injustices it perpetrates in order to maintain social order while it also ingratiates the most adversely effected populations through outright bribery. This is the sickness that has gripped our nation and our world.
Agreed. Add some sociopathic /corrupt leadership and here we are....
Of course they won't investigate MF Global... because the trail ends up at JPMorgan. Can't offend JPMorgan now can they? Well if they want to live that is.
/according to Keiser's sources, Corzine was told by Jamie Dimon to pay him back on the bets he made or he would end up DEAD... so between dead and stealing money and MAYBE going to jail, it's not much of a choice is it?
How fucking dumb do you have to be to sit there and think "yeah, you know the last four years weren't so bad, I think Obamao deserves another shot"....
I mean really.
But he (personally) killed Bin Laden!!!
What does the economy and Bin Laden have in common?
Both underwater.
Another answer: Obamao killed them both
Touche'.
Anyone who thinks four more years butterflies & unicorns needs to have their head examined.
It's actually much worse than that.
The next four years have to address some gigantic fiscal issues. He'll walk into the room refusing to cut spending. How will anything happen?
We are truly boned if he wins a 2nd term. Few things are more dangerous than a political ideologue who has nothing to run for in 2016.
Dude, that's racist.
More like Demonist innit?
Dass not rayciss - I's kin see 'iz white half innat pitchure!
You can't be serious
I can be serious but on this occasion I was not.
Sorry RoboWhore but CNBC has already picked the winner:
"Markets Start to Anticipate Obama Victory in November"
Life feels like the prequel to the Hunger Games...
Seriously?
Wow. Just fucking wow.
America is a lost cause. Just protect yourself and laugh at all the idiot Americans when TSHTF.
Oh well the republic was nice while it lasted.
I don't need to depend on the voting literacy of my REPR AR-10.
My, what a short sword...
Looks like the Republicans are campaigning for Obama.
The way I heard it is dims are campaigning for Santorum, with the admonishment to please don't vote for Paul.
Michigan Democrat Party urges Democrats to vote for Santorum, says not to vote Paul, wasting your votehttp://www.dailypaul.com/217114/michigan-democrat-party-urges-democrats-to-vote-for-santorum-says-not-to-vote-paul-wasting-your-vote
obama's laughing all the way the bank. 2012's in the bag. seriously, santorum?
seriously Though only Ron Paul seems real to me. WTF. Is this a joke
When people look back to us in the future, I`m sure they will be really disappointed and amazed how stupid we are.
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