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The Mightiest Of Weapons

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Via Mark J. Grant, Author of Out of the Box,

“Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.”
                                                             -George Washington, 1753
Sunday marks the day in Greece, France, parts of Italy and Spain. May 6 will stand out perhaps as the day when the fortunes of Europe were reversed and if not reversed; re-programmed. There has been a lot of talk about this of course and a lot of speculation in the Press and, one would think, that it had all been discounted by the markets but not so fast. The discount will only go as far as the political implications are generally understood and I would submit that the particularities of the European elections are not well understood at all. I think the markets’ reaction is a first blush notion which does not get close to the more pressing questions of what some of the potential changes in power will mean past the revelry of the election night parties.
In France the markets have perhaps priced in the fact the Mr. Hollande is a Socialist and that term, perhaps well understood in France, rambles about in American minds somewhere between Eugene Debs and the American Labor Movement and Lenin’s view that Communism would overtake Capitalism in the end. The concentration has been placed upon the Socialist nametag and, in my mind, that is not the most important of attributes. Mr. Hollande represents a defiance of Germany, a desire to renegotiate the Fiscal Pact, a return to exerting power on the basis of the greatness of France and a significant lessening of some grand European vision concerning “Liberty, Equality and Fraternity.” Mr. Hollande, in fact, represents the wave that is sweeping all across Europe which is a return to Nationalism, to tribal pride, to economic self-protection as the European Recession, as driven by the “austerity measures” and fiscal restrictions imposed by Berlin deepen both the economic travails and the reaction to finding your nation under the economic jack boots of Berlin. I suspect that when we look back, some years from now, that we will find that the imposition of German ideals and practices upon peoples with different social and cultural histories will be one of the main reasons why the grand adventure failed. The traditions of two thousand years do not wilt because it is demanded by Germany and no country, no people, wants to have an imposition of power, whether wielded on the streets with tanks and guns or wielded in boardrooms with bushels of Euros scattered about, mandated of them. It may be, in France, that May 6 is only day one of a transformation of power as June marks the Parliamentary elections and the voice of the Right, as led by Marine Le Pen, may well control a significant amount of the elected officials. In any event it appears that we will have a very different France, a Germany and France not locked-stepped but locked out-of-step and two distinct visions that may mark a European governance that is someplace between difficult and impossible.
What is also becoming clearer, with the passage of days, is that Germany is finding itself in an ever more isolated position and that regardless of her economic prowess that she is shunned because of her aristocratic attitude in trying to tell everyone else how to behave and how they must live. I was recently in Europe and there is real anger and the venom spewed by the citizens in other countries was not lost upon me. It is no longer the “Ugly Americans” but the “Ugly Germans” that bear the brunt of the Nationalistic push-back. In my opinion the days of Germany ruling Europe by fiat will be a short-lived affair and the end is now nigh and in sight.
In Greece it may only be Hades and Poseidon and a few of the old gods that know how things may go this Sunday. What seems certain, however, is that a significant amount of Parliamentary seats will be won by splinter groups so that it is impossible to effect real structural changes and that governance may be so difficult that chaos prevails. I have long asserted that Greece will remain in the Eurozone as long as the monetary spigot is left open but that the moment that it is closed; “goodbye, thanks for all the fish and have a nice life” as Europe reels from the default both economically and socially. In both Spain and Greece the math just does not work. You can live in the charade or you can pull the covers up over your head and pretend but, in the end, the arithmetic will prove that neither country can continue to pay their debts as their economies and banks cannot support them. The IMF, as pressured by the countries outside of Europe, may well be the first to fold as they inform Europe that no more money is forthcoming as the odds of getting paid back equate to winning at Three Card Monty.
Now all of my musings this morning is not just political commentary. All of the changes of guard in Europe are going to have a profound effect upon the marketplace in my view. There will be a widening of credit/risk spreads, a decline in the equity markets, a decline of the Euro against the Dollar as Fear climbs back in the driver’s seat and as uncertainty is the prevalent theme of each day. There will also be a sustained widening between bonds denominated in Euros and bonds denominated in Dollars as U.S. Treasuries continue on with their safe haven status and may possibly sink to yields that no one ever thought was possible as a consequence of all of the political changes on the Continent.
The mightiest of weapons is the truth and everyone in Europe knows that you are not allowed to enter Parliament with a weapon.


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Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:51 | 2396666 vintageyz
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Hitchhikers Guide to Greece

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:56 | 2396686 SilverTree
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Don't panic, prepare.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:07 | 2396738 Oh regional Indian
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No big deal that it all coincides with another Super moon AND a once in a century or three Venus Crossing of the Sun.

Carry on....


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:41 | 2396870 Canaduh
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Sylvia Browne wants her schtick back.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:59 | 2397369 CPL
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None of you have obviously never been near a bunch of women when their cycles harmonize and the full moon is out.


I'm going to the pub and avoiding the house.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 15:24 | 2397808 Cathartes Aura
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dude, how many womens you got up in that house??

FYI, even the police & ambulance crowd know about the full moon effects - it's not just for the ladies.


Sat, 05/05/2012 - 09:49 | 2399154 ConstantineK
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Right... Buy silver, get a gun and stock food,huh? Oh boy...there we go again.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:21 | 2396788 Vampyroteuthis ...
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The answer is always 42.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:49 | 2396900 YHC-FTSE
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Always wear your Joo-Janta 200 Superchromatic peril sensitive sunglasses. I'm blind at the mo.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:53 | 2396670 GetZeeGold
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Mulligans for Euroland.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:53 | 2396671 lolmao500
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Mr. Hollande, in fact, represents the wave that is sweeping all across Europe which is a return to Nationalism, to tribal pride, to economic self-protection as the European Recession, as driven by the “austerity measures” and fiscal restrictions imposed by Berlin deepen both the economic travails and the reaction to finding your nation under the economic jack boots of Berlin.

Too bad people are being lied too...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:08 | 2396743 gangland
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bullshit, hollande is another bait and switch.

hollande is obama. hollande is france's tony blair.

the same third way neoliberal clintonite DLC dems, thatcherism with human face, velvet glove over steel fist, washington consensus crap wrapped in 'socialist' or 'new labour' clothes. 

another post-modern vaccuous tabual rasa for the pathetic and desperate muppets to project onto.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:21 | 2396797 DeadFred
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In the US it would be a given that Hollande would simply be another face of the same elitist con game. I'm going to be interested seeing if he is actually who he says he is or if he's just Obama done up in French, talking the socialist talk and walking the fascist walk. It would be nice to think that a vote actually meant something.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 17:07 | 2398287 Rynak
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It does mean something..... (if it's counted properly)..... it means that you liked some *person* the most..... you know, like those personality contests on TV.

"Policy" never entered it.... you do not get to vote for policies, 'cause the people you vote for, may legally change their mind about what they said, or decide to interprete their past statements differently. There is no legal obligation at all, for representatives to keep their word - they legally are allowed to lie and *misrepresent* as much as they like.

Which is to say: In representative 'mockracy, you get to vote on people not representing anything specific :-)

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 20:41 | 2398662 skully1969
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Socialism...fascism...different ends of the same log of crap they use to screw us over!

If you ask me, all politicians and bankers ( except RP) should be forced to walk the plank into a pool of real crap so they know how the rest of us feel about their BS!

Hey, Obummeromneyholandemontisarkozymerkelblankfeinbernanke....Im taking a crap right now in your honor and saving it in your momma's tupperware for just that right moment.

Sun, 05/13/2012 - 12:58 | 2421389 Silver Bug
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The wave of socialism marches on.


Charms and Beads

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:24 | 2396808 Richard Chesler
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Quelle taille est votre Jack Boot M. Hollande?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:12 | 2396881 gangland
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oh well...Il est démontré, disait-il, que les choses ne peuvent être autrement; car tout étant fait pour une fin, tout est nécessairement pour la meilleure fin....


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:42 | 2397683 Catch-22
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/ Le sarc

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:53 | 2397729 falak pema
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as your avatar clearly states, "alles" is dependent in Euroland of Pax Americana evolution; how the cooky crumbles, when it crumbles, what happens afterwards, all depends on linchpin, kingpin, uber-alles configuration, fiat money Camelot. Don't let the subsets take yor eye off the main box of Pandora; its there and nowhere else that the fireworks risk to be the most impressive. 'Cos its there where all roads converge. 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:28 | 2396835 YuropeanImbecille
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Sarkozy and Hollande are both Jews, I guess that says it all. France will then have had non-french presidents for 10 years :) fucking asswipes :)

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:52 | 2396910 frenchie
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im not sure about Chirac being so French... neither Mitterrand as well... so we can kick in another 15 years+

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:03 | 2396955 YuropeanImbecille
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now the jews are making it illegal to google if someone is jewish in france :) hahaha they are pretty cool destroyers of worlds

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:15 | 2396996 Don Diego
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I suspect about Hollande been a member of the Tribe but never found any proof, can you please provide?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:26 | 2397242 falak pema
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I guess he is circumcised but it could be from having it sucked by women with razor sharp teeth; you know he has had women of extreme political ambition as bed mates; not like DSK who only went for the sweet and toothless but not boobless. 

If sexual urge is any indication of subliminal splurge you could say Hollande is cheese to men and jewish dikk to hungry women. 

Tribal classification should also apply to women. If you want to understand why some men still have nuts while others are cracked so bad they could frack gas all night long, just look at their women.

Golda Meir would be the sort of woman who would have loved Hollande as cheese. After serving him the hors d'oeuvres to make him a true Tribal member by shaving clean his member's clubhead.  

I hope you have been enlightened, by my tongue in cheek.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 15:30 | 2397838 Cathartes Aura
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Fri, 05/04/2012 - 15:49 | 2397947 falak pema
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don't take it literally and tribe rhymes with vibe and scribe. 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 16:28 | 2398133 Cathartes Aura
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all good falak - I'm familiar with your musings, and realise authors utilise their imaginations creatively - but of course, it is my wont to be facetious!


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:40 | 2397082 Anton LaVey
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And your point is ... ?

Oh, that you have your head so deep up your arse, you can't see very far?

FYI, Hollande is not Jewish and Sarkozy is only half-jewish IIRC.

I would add 'Dumbass' here, but I am afraid that would be just redundant.

Your nickname, however, is quite appropriate.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 15:30 | 2397847 Cathartes Aura
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a better question might be:  are they Zionists?

y'know, like the amrkn VP. . .

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:05 | 2397177 lolmao500
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That's what I was saying ... people are being lied to, Hollande is a goddamn liar... he's really a pro-EU, pro-banks shill.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:52 | 2396672 AUD
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You forgot May 5

Chaos Day!

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:02 | 2396689 GeneMarchbanks
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'In both Spain and Greece the math just does not work.'

That is a good point. In the UK, US the math 'works' perfectly well.

Grant, you are to Euro politics what Brusca is to economics but somehow worse.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 13:42 | 2397525 JOYFUL
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nice, Gene.... good to know someone is lookin after da zoo while I complete the transition of moving da farm off grid. I can only check in here from time to time at the moment.

-looks like rabid "wolf" ritcher is returning to the 'grecian' fold in my absence in search of more easy pickings.. please search out n destroy U-boot 237, if not already on the case!

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:31 | 2396691 Mercury
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In Greece it may only be Hades and Poseidon and a few of the old gods that know how things may go this Sunday.

The god of the underworld and the god of the sea...who is also the earthshaker. Brothers of Zeus both and not to be messed with, even by him.

Bring on the Euro breakup scenarios...
Should be pay-per-view worthy on Mt. Olympus.  In fact, it may just turn out to be The Illiad II

Hmmm, I wonder which party(s) will play the role of the sophisticated, wealthy and uber-civilized Trojans?

I might also add that Zeus, the supreme god, Hades, god of the dead and Hephaestus, the smithy/arms manufacturer are all relatively neutral in the Trojan War.  But Poseidon is  allied with the Greeks against the Trojans because Laomedon, an ancient king of Troy (and the father of Priam, its current king) once enslaved him and made him build the city's walls – and then refused to pay him.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:01 | 2396708 Theta_Burn
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Am I missing something here with all this Germany bashing?

"Her aristocratic attitude in trying to tell everyone else how to behave"....  usually "loans" have strings attached. typical whinning bitches//don't like the "terms" of their bailouts.

Germany = damned if you do damned if you don't.

How much pissing and moaning would there be if they just said to all....good luck with that?....

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:26 | 2396813 hedgeless_horseman
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How much pissing and moaning would there be if they just said to all....good luck with that?...

...the only problem being that in Germany, "good luck with that," has historically been spelled, "Blitzkrieg!"

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:35 | 2396854 GeneMarchbanks
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We're back to this are we? It should probably be obvious by now to anyone in the Anglosphere with a functioning frontal lobe who stands in the background of that big bad wolf called Deutschland.

They have truly resorted to unprecedentedly violent tactics by publishing 'controversial' poetry recently and imposing monstrous austerity on those spend-thrifts in the Mediterranean.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:08 | 2397190 Sandmann
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"Blitzkrieg!" is the tactic employed by US forces in Iraq. It is exactly how the US Marine Corps is used in combat with armour integrated with infantry and air power. It is why the US Marine Corps is configured as it is,.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:58 | 2397154 earleflorida
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we as individual's [nations] have an innate survival instinct to place the blame on others, lest we lose our self esteem -- which already has been compromised by our latent complacency to always take the easy path -- whilst, reflecting upon ourselves on a merry-go-round of mirror's that portrays a dual profile mimicking don`quixote thrusting his mighty  excalibur through his benign sancho panza?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:02 | 2396712 Dr. Engali
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Okay help me understand why this is all Germany's fault all of a sudden. It seems to me that the Euro countries put pressure on Germany to fund their deficits.If these countries are coming to Germany with their hand out doesn't Germany deserve the right to demand they get their act together?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:04 | 2396720 Theta_Burn
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Thank you Dr. Engali

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:10 | 2396749 Dr. Engali
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It pisses me off. I think they do it because do to history the Germans are an easy target to demonize. They fail to realize that the German citizens have paid a heavy price for the sins of their father's.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:34 | 2396830 hedgeless_horseman
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Euro countries put pressure on Germany...

Please remind me how Germany has always responded to this in the past.

Oh, I remember, they elect little Austrian paper hangers.

Maybe Europe always gets the Germany it deserves?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:34 | 2396850 Dr. Engali
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If by always you mean once I guess you're right.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:56 | 2396867 hedgeless_horseman
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Invade us once, shame on you.

Invade us twice, shame on me.

Invade us thrice, we must be Poland.


Honestly, though, it sounds like things are going very, very, well in Germany.  Am I wrong? 

It is only the fucking bankers that are whining about losing money.  Privatize the gains, socialize the losses.  What is new?  We bail out the bankers always and everywhere.  They had their chance to eliminate the banking class, and they came up short.  Germans needs to get used to it.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:06 | 2397181 Sandmann
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invade us thrice, we must be Poland.


You are thinking of RUSSIA perhaps or maybe AUSTRIA or even SWEDEN.............and what did happen to Poland in 1945 ? Rescued by the USA from Dictatorship or delivered into Dictatorship ?

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 16:37 | 2399809 centre.europe
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PL emerged as a country from the WWI. In 1921 it repelled the invasion of Soviet Red Army with asistance of France. In Vladimir Lenin's words, the Bolsheviks "suffered an enormous defeat". In 1939 it declined the offer from Mr. Ribbentrop to join the adventure with Mr. Hitler against USSR and sided with Anglo-Saxon friends and got butt-kicked due to simultaneous invasion of Wermacht. Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine and Red Army. During Cold War it maintained 2 million draft military. Now due to influence of Western friedns it disarmed itself and has 100,000 weak army.  It participated in Desert Storm operations and as a member of NATO maintains active contigent in Afganistan having captured many leading terrorists which was unreported by biased mainsteam media.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:57 | 2396936 Winston Churchill
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Bismark,Kaiser Wilhem,Adolf.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:16 | 2396999 Dr. Engali
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Check your history pal. Adolf was the only Austrian elected by the German people.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:42 | 2397089 Lednbrass
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This is stupid. Its flat out idiotic to equate 1871 and 1914 with 1939, the circumstances are entirely different.

You should stop learning history from TV and movies and try some books.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 16:55 | 2398239 Winston Churchill
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Not so much.All were the result of nationlism.

Maybe you should change your reading list.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:05 | 2397176 Sandmann
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Winston Churchill rabid Francophile and Germanophobe who liked the idea of using Gas on Kurds and Anthrax on Germans - even destroyed an island off Scotland testing anthrax bombs

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 16:40 | 2398187 Cathartes Aura
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biowarfare folks.

there's history in it. . .

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 16:56 | 2398243 Sandmann
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Gruinard Island
Fri, 05/04/2012 - 18:20 | 2398445 Cathartes Aura
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Porton Down.

. . . we watched from the mainland as the sheep grazed. . . fitting, eh.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 17:06 | 2398283 Winston Churchill
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But it took the land of his mother (USA) to truly perfect

those, and other evils.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:23 | 2396809 Taterboy
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Dr., you are correct. How dare Germany have a say in how these Eurotrash freeloaders spend Germany's money! It's like a kid who runs up his parents credit card and then gets all pissy when they ask them to do some chores around the house.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:28 | 2396963 hedgeless_horseman
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Who could have possibly seen this coming? 

Except for the Brits.... 

...and the Swiss... 

...and the Swedes...

...and the Norwegians.

Consider that by adopting the Euro it was the Germans that were looking for the free ride?  Nein...impossible...nicht...well...kein...maybe?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:03 | 2397169 Sandmann
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Yes, Britain doesn't have the Euro and its economy is surging ahead as the Workshop of the World. If you overlook the 600% GDP that the Banks racked up as Liabilities it is no so bad because the Non-Bank Debt is only 350% GDP.


By not joining the Euro the UK shows it is possible to be the World's SECOND BIGGEST DEBTOR after the USA without having to use the Euro

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:28 | 2396828 JS1234
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But but but... nazis.  

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:29 | 2396837 BandGap
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Germany produces and sells into other EU countries. Germany funds these purchases by giving these countries money, in the form of debt. Germany is seen to enslave it's neighbors because they are seen much in the same way as the US views China. China makes cheap shit, sells it to us on credit and owns said credit. Got it?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:39 | 2396865 Dr. Engali
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Yeah I know that but whose choice is it to take on said credit and by the German stuff? Which by the way is far superior to anything China sells to the U.S.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:07 | 2397183 earleflorida
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Danke schon!  :-))

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 16:47 | 2398212 Cathartes Aura
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germans seek quality, amrkns need quantity - hence china's cheap stuff  (which is ordered by the container load to feed the shopping consumers - despite china also manufacturing higher quality stuff that amrkns "can't afford" any more at the $ stores & WallyWorld).

but really, it's good to notice that the same methods are being used by the same people pulling the strings. . . people who don't labour under the invisible lines of nationstates that are drawn in the people's minds. . .

but of course, they'll need a war to "balance" those banker books, so we'll need to up the hate meter on those "other nationals" - right.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:01 | 2397162 Sandmann
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France wanted the Euro to remove the Bundesbank. Germany is giving noone money in the form of debt - no more than the US did with Brady Bonds

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:31 | 2396842 GCT
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Spot on Doc.  We borrowed the money to buy our new homes and BMW's and now the payment is due but it is Germany's fault.  Sounds alot like the USA these days.  Break out the "Oh-Oh" squads and have them point the fingers. 

Nothing will really changes.  You are now suppose to support the whole EU.   

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:44 | 2396885 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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Was not Germany the single largest beneficiary of EU arrangement?  Monetary Union?

Was there ever a level playing field?  Of course not! 

In war as in "Monetary Union" there is no level playing field.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:07 | 2396966 OttoMBMP
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No. Look at the statistics.

Germany is the biggest loser, the paymaster of the EU. And it is not over yet. Capital AND goods have always flown OUT, not in.

Once, everything falls apart, in addition, Germany will (as usual) be everyone's scapegoat.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:46 | 2396893 Saro
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Germany needs to go Galt.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:32 | 2397265 granolageek
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Its economy would collapse. Just like China it depends on a big balance of payments surplus. If it even cut back to exporting only enough to pay for its imports, it would loook like Spain.


I always did wonder just how John Galt paid for his groceries.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 13:29 | 2397466 caconhma
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Few points

·       Geopolitically, Germans are stupid

·       Nazi crimes were/are not any worst that Americans (the genocides of the native Indians or endless criminal wars including Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, just to name few), British (with their endless colonial crimes), French, and Soviets Jewish-Bolshevik sadists or Japanese, etc., In other words, zionist lies and propaganda made Germans look bad.

·       Presently, Germany is behaving as an enforcer for the Zionist Central Banking Mafia cartel



Once again, Germany is a bully and a mafia enforcer. It must pay for their crimes.


There are two sides of the present banking crises:

1.    People & countries have borrowed from banks being unable and unwilling to pay

2.    Banks deliberately provided easy money to high-risk people and entities who were unable and unwilling to pay. Bank knew about fraud and corruption and have done nothing about it

Consequently, the both side are guilty. As for Germany: just mind your own business!


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:19 | 2397631 Dr. Engali
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Last I heard being involved in the next world war is my business.

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 00:18 | 2416225 MeelionDollerBogus
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The best you can do to get out of being responsible for the next world war is to dump fiat currency, use barter, banish / avoid all taxes and tell everyone who will listen that any work they do for the government for oppressing, stealing, killing and making war - even a secretary for GE with GE providing military hardware - is part of the problem so everyone doing that should QUIT NOW.

What else you going to do, take a bullet yourself?

Well if you choose to I'll respect that.

And please spread this message far and wide:

there is no real "left vs right"

There is no real "class warfare"

There's serfs (all us people) vs KINGS. It's pretty easy to know which side you're on. Got a crown? Throne? Fearful subjects? Yes? No? Fight accordingly despite nationalities. Around the world those who don't look like you, don't speak your language are ON YOUR SIDE if they don't wear a crown and you don't either. It's hard to get people to hear the message because of all the lies but I swear it is the truth.

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 17:02 | 2399850 centre.europe
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Germany was leading EU country resisting ECB money printing.  Several German officials resigned from high EU posts over this.  Ms. Merkel expressed her opposition multiple times. ECB did its thing anyway and now the Germans are blamed.  It is deceitful and atrocious.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:05 | 2396716 smb12321
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The biggest problem about a "growth" platform is that Europe cannot grow with her current arrangement.   Does anyone seriously expect France (where new business creation has vanished) or Greece or Spain to robustly rebound if the EU starts printing?  It's absurd.  And if "austerity"  is abandoned (in Britain that means you can earn $80,000 and get child funding from the government) then deficits will soar, interest rates will spike and the rat race starts anew.

Europe is fundamentally unsound for several reasons - labor, capital but mainly demographics.  You can't run a welfare state with rapidly declining births / workers trying to support a rapidly growing number of retirees. It can only get worse.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:23 | 2396803 Hohum
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Europe cannot grow?  If growth is GDP/total credit market debt, the United States cannot go, either.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:34 | 2397662 caconhma
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Greece and Spain have 50% youth unemployment. So, the other 50% must work twice as hard to support the first 50%.

Well, it does not work this way. It usually leads to all 100% stop working with nobody to support anybody.

Are there any volunteers to support Greece and Spain and their populous lovely and wonder life style?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:26 | 2396823 Debugas
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actually one can run welfare with declining birth/workers etc.

you simply run all industry on robotics. People do not have to work that much any more - robots can do wonders

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:55 | 2397354 Jam Akin
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So in the long run Japan wins?

Fri, 05/11/2012 - 00:02 | 2416204 MeelionDollerBogus
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and d) any "win" for Japan is necessarily a win for big-oil because they just shut down all their nuclear power. They're also going to share the fun by burning the 100,000 bq waste which means you better figure out if you are in the "line of fire".

What's that saying? You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows?

Just sayin' - ASK THE WEATHERMAN ANYHOW. This time. Like NOW.

Thu, 05/10/2012 - 23:59 | 2416202 MeelionDollerBogus
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a) robots are not cheap to make or maintain

b) programmers for robots can't be just any dunces you find off the street and they are not yet all self-programming & improving (

c) obedient humans have the worker-qualities of robots to a limited extent and the nature-granted ability of taking care of their own seeking of food AND repair and even make newer versions (babies) which today's robots do not.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:04 | 2396718 Sophist Economicus
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a return to exerting power on the basis of the greatness of France


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:06 | 2396726 Don Diego
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Come on, if elections would change anything they would be banned. Business will be as usual with Hollande. Change will eventually come of course, but not as a result of elections.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:06 | 2396733 Crash N. Burn
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 the wave that is sweeping all across Europe which is a return to Nationalism


Didn't see that coming.


"Aggressive nationalism is the necessary derivative of the policies of interventionism and national planning." -  Ludwig von Mises

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:11 | 2396754 EcoFlow
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 Mr. Hollande, in fact, represents the wave that is sweeping all across Europe which is a return to Nationalism,...


Clearly this guy does not understand anything to french politics to write such stupidities. My opinion is that he is dreaming every night of a collapse of the eurozone and continental EU.

I will definitely take the other side of the bet.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:26 | 2396821 GeneMarchbanks
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Correct-a-mundo. CoL propaganda. Expect this to accelerate post elections. Additionally, these idiots don't seem to want to draw attention to Egypt where the villain is too obvious as well as Syria which is taking too long to succumb.

Everyone should be ashamed of their nationality, Globalization is the higher wisdom.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:12 | 2396759 Seasmoke
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England for the English !

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:15 | 2396775 MachoMan
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Am I missing something or after repeated rapings by Berlin, did France at some point along the line consent to the buttsechs?  I mean...  if you parade around in your knickers and have a tendency to grab your ankles for prolonged periods of time...  expect any exposed holes to get filled.

PS, they're a LONG way from growing a spine.  Sentiment is neat, action is neater.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:19 | 2396782 theTribster
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Hollande will be no different the Sarkozy in the end, just the rhetoric is different and rhetoric in the end is never implemented the way they suggest it woudl be. I'm still not convinced that Sarkozy will lose, seems the race is getting closer and is now within the margin of error (or very close). Same thing with Greece, I doubt as many splinter groups will be elected to parliament as thought will be. What people say and how they vote is sometimes very different...


We'll see, I'm looking forward to an interesting Sunday for sure...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:23 | 2396807 Muppet Pimp
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OT: This place is just not the same anymore without Trav. And Trav was not Ray's Sis BTW


Thu, 05/10/2012 - 23:57 | 2416197 MeelionDollerBogus
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Ya, nothing from RobotTrader either.

I wonder if either of them took up a dare to trade the directions they actually claimed are to happen, and of course ended up in a back-alley cardboard box blowing johns to cover margin calls?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:26 | 2396784 Elmer Fudd
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Jackboots of Berlin?  So its ok for a populace and its political rulers to gorge and entitle themselves on printed money and debt that will never be paid ?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:23 | 2396804 carbonmutant
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Will the French accept the results without "serving cocktails"?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:22 | 2396805 Debugas
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strong common currency (EUR) is beneficial to most advanced most competitive countries only (that is germany).

The weaker countries should have never agreed to EUR project without first creating common unified  social security system

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:24 | 2396811 JS1234
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"a return to Nationalism, to tribal pride, to economic self-protection"


Then how come Marine LePen only got 19% of the vote?  Socialists believe in the opposite of all these things.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:38 | 2396847 Mercury
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Ultimately there's a match race between two candidates but all you need to get to the final round is to finish in the top two in the first election. So, in a "primary" with a big enough field, someone with 19% of the vote could easilly end up winning the whole shooting match...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:25 | 2396819 youngman
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"a return to exerting power on the basis of the greatness of France"


I am still laughing on that one..... 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:26 | 2396824 autonomos
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Nations are the only remaining threats to TPTB

French socialism is not nationalist. It simply brings France into more debt

Please everyone do not connect nationalism with fear, violence or nazi Germany...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:35 | 2396853 JS1234
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That is the EU in a nutshell.  They have made a mind-boggling leap to the conclusion that it was nationalism that caused the two world wars, and so the nation must be exterminated.  Nations protect the existence of distinct peoples, the EU is the attempt to wipe them all out.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:45 | 2396874 GeneMarchbanks
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the EU is the attempt to wipe them all out.

Not even fucking close. The Temple known in the 'West' as the Corporation is the attempt to wipe them out. A German is still a German before he/she is a Siemens employee. Not sure you could say the same for... let's say DImon whatever the hell his nationality is. Probably doesn't need one.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 17:51 | 2398378 Cathartes Aura
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@ JS1234:

Nations protect the existence of distinct peoples

tell that to all the "nations" the "EU" countries colonised for centuries. . . ongoing.

those who hold the reigns do not utilise "national boundaries" - even though the peoples within the imaginary lines do, and continue to - "they" act as global corporations above all boundaries - and until they are revealed & removed, this "banking class" that sells imaginary "vehicles" to the gamblers & head fakers - until they are removed, this will only escalate, as a ponzi does.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:29 | 2396839 Jack Sheet
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The penis mightier than the sword.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 13:12 | 2397413 Uncle Remus
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Engorged er...en garde.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:47 | 2397707 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The Le Penile faction appears to be rigid in its views.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 16:14 | 2398053 Uncle Remus
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Oui oui.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:40 | 2396872 Peter K
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Nationalism is not the problem in Euroland. Socialism is.: )

PS Socialism es muerte

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:45 | 2397691 EcoFlow
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French socialist road map in term of deficits actualy should bring french fiscal balance to equilibrium long time before those of the US and UK...



Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:46 | 2396889 Shizzmoney
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Nationalism is actually what WW2 Germany was, not *true* fascism, like we are headed under.  Ditto with Franco's Spain (right wing Catholicism).

Nationalism is the meme of "We are XXX type of people, and we rule over other XXX type of people because of some God given right."  Granted, corporations funded the 3rd Reich....but they were NOT the Third Reich.  They funded it; but they didnt run it. 

The Reich was a bunch of Aryan Occultists who believed in Bavarian Rituals and Rites (think: A.Huxley) who believed they were the chosen ones.  The Nazis basically used the fascist model of government to form alliances with those who didn't want to threaten their power, as well as to build their manufacturing base that supported their army.  They also forms alliances with countries like Italy, that shared similiar goals (like hating Jews).

Italy was more like fascism, because it was run by military corporate power, as well as the longest running corporation in all of the world: The Vatican.

TBH, I think communism that we see in USSR Russia and now in China, is really "State Corporatism", where the state is basically the biggest corporation in the land. 

If those places actually lived under Marx's vision of Socialism, everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, would make the same amount of money, own the same amount of land, and have the same amount of freedoms/services.  That doesn't exist in China or Russia.  They have corporate thuggery just like us; they have plutocrats ust like us.....with their empires mostly built by big manufacturing and oil monopolies that become "nationalized" and run those states.  But the state really doesn't benefit; the plutocrats do (with crumbs going to the little people).

Only a State Corporatist Country would one have a "One child per household" rule......only to be able to skirt that rule by paying $82K in order to have another kid (like in China). 

This vision, is what the NWO types see for the rest of the world, except they'll only tighten the screws more AND instead of "the State" making the decision, it will be Wal-Mart, Exxon, TBTF banks, etc. 

In the end, "Communists", like the crony "Capitalists" that are running our country into the ground now, just end up ditching even their own principles, and thats why China will fail just like 1960's Venzuela and 1990's USSR....adn why the US will fall like 1970's France and Ancient Rome. 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:55 | 2396925 frenchie
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The Reich was a bunch of Aryan Occultists who believed in Bavarian Rituals and Rites (think: A.Huxley) who believed they were the chosen ones.  The Nazis basically used the fascist model of government to form alliances with those who didn't want to threaten their power, as well as to build their manufacturing base that supported their army.  They also forms alliances with countries like Italy, that shared similiar goals (like hating Jews).

This sounds like a portion of Talmud... so nazis = juden O.o ???

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:02 | 2396953 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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  Wow!  +1

  Easily todays best comment.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:11 | 2396983 GeneMarchbanks
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'Nationalism is the meme of "We are XXX type of people, and we rule over other XXX type of people because of some God given right."  Granted, corporations funded the 3rd Reich....but they were NOT the Third Reich.  They funded it; but they didnt run it.'

What does that even mean?

Look pal, it's fairly straighforward. Nationalism isn't a message of racial superiority. Yes, Nazism was a message of racial superiority but there have been countless national socialists that do not think themselves racially superior. Blanket assertions dominate here, especially about this issue.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:53 | 2396911 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Nationalist are tards.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:51 | 2397339 penexpers
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All of your posts are absolutely idiotic.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:25 | 2397027 Vince Clortho
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another episode of "Muppets v Muppets"

The central planners love this entertainment

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:58 | 2397147 Sandmann
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your nation under the economic jack boots of Berlin.


You really are potty. Germany is simply too weak to do anything of the sort. It is the US economic jackboot of Wall Street that has imposed itself upon with world with its London affiliate. It is Bond Traders in the USA and London operating over Cayman and Jersey that are imposing their doctrines. It is Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. If only it was the German Finance Ministry in Berlin - that would have an element of democratic accountability. 

The fact is an Unelected Official - HANK PAULSON - created worldwide havoc by the way he and Geithner handled Barclays bid for Lehman Bros.  Paulson and Geithner tried to override UK Company Law and dictate how Shareholders would vote - tried to end-run the British Regulator the FSA - and acted in a deceitful manner to hinder a Barclays takeover and rescue. 


Hank Paulson did more damage to Europe than anything coming out of Berlin. Do you get a frisson of excitement talking about jackboots...? You don't need to go to Berlin for those....

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 13:16 | 2397426 Uncle Remus
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What - you don't like Horst Wessel Lied?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 13:08 | 2397396 Uncle Remus
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Who's in your tribe?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 13:24 | 2397451 malek
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 imposition of German ideals and practices upon peoples

That's kind of funny - how about "the imposition of free market ideals and practices upon peoples" or "the imposition of a judiciary system upon peoples".
So do we end up with the lowest common denominator, which likely is anarchy, to be the only just goal?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 14:07 | 2397601 AnAnonymous
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2000 years traditions? And which are?

Nations idea arised along with US citizenism. No nations in Europe back 2000 years.

Germany's attitude is easy to understand and answers to US citizenism: it is all situational.

Germany, despite their position, are on the same side as commodity rich countries, they are filling their coffers with paper money.

Germany is a mercantilistic country and as such, can consider any ECB attempt at mimicking QE because they are the ones filling the coffers with the newly emitted credit.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 15:03 | 2397754 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Nations idea arised along with US citizenism.


Wrong again, sod-for-brains. The Treaties of Westphalia were signed in 1648.

Care to explain how your warped theories of imaginary US citizenism fit in with that?

Unless it's all just a preposterous fantasy of yours that doesn't let facts stand in its way.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 16:29 | 2398136 trembo slice
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US Treasuries safe havens?  If you're hopelessly committed to the fiat-regime.  US Treasuries are for suckers.  Gold and Silver are the real safe havens. 

Sat, 05/05/2012 - 04:51 | 2399049 lewy14
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The traditions of two thousand years do not wilt because it is demanded by Germany...

Yes, because there's a direct line of fiscal profligacy, sovereign default and chronic currency debasement that runs unbroken from Vercingetorix thru Charlemagne right up to Sarkozy. 

Or not.

I call polemic bullshit.

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