Mike Krieger: "Rebellion Has Arrived In America"

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Smithovsky's picture

man your pitchforks, people

John Wayne's picture

James Pepper: What are you going to do?
John Simpson Chisum: What I had done twenty-five years ago. Pat, get the men out of South Camp. Trace, you round up everybody that can ride a horse or pull a trigger. Let's break out some Winchesters!

Dental Floss Tycoon's picture

I'm confident that the CIA has plans for "managing" an American spring just like they did in the Mid East.

john39's picture

yup.  they will infiltrate and coopt (or attempt to) any real push towards change.  the tea party is one recent example...   now in egypt the people have figured out that the military is still firmly in control, and nothing much has changed.  this fight has a long way to go.

nope-1004's picture

Jamie Dimon is an incompetent fool.  So is Blythe Masters, for that matter.

ANYONE on the planet can make a business grow and profit if you've got the reserve currency government in your back pocket and you are free to manipulate commodity exchanges with disregard and wanton arrogance, as well as front-run every trade.  But that profit is grossly tainted -  yet he not only accepts it but craves it.

His statements about "un american" only confirm that he himself admits that he can't run a business and make it profitable unless he has 300 million people supporting him.

WHAT A FUCKING FOOL.

 

chumbawamba's picture

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whstlblwr's picture

How can I trust anything from someone signing off "I am Chumbawamba" ridiculous as signing off Pods.

This Krieger article good, and applaud Salon effort, but not necessarily comments from editor who calls TeaParty fake. Or effort to discredit RP. They are concern for true libertarian policies that seem to limit regulation.

redpill's picture

Being concise seems to be a lost art form these days.

In short summary:
Less talk about raising taxes
More talk about raising gallows

Hypothetically, of course, right Mr. Sprott?

Hugh_Jorgan's picture

"Occupy Wall Street" is a bunch of chump-assed, suburban teenagers and their 1960s Radical Senior Citizen activist handlers, like that nutcase Cornell West. These people are "Useful Idiots" for the very Oligarchs that they protesting. They're a bunch of wannabe, spoiled kids and the police know this, and that is why they are hauling them in for kneeling/sitting in the middle of what the police are required to keep "a working street". It's ridiculous crap.

redpill's picture

They are protesting the right thing for the wrong reason and with a logically incoherent motivation.  Sounds like '60s leftists alright.

 

GoinFawr's picture

Well then, you`d better get right down there with a megaphone and set em straight Red. You know, do your part.

" I went down to the demostration, to get my fair share of abuse. I said we're gonna vent our frustration, if we don't we'll blow a fifty amp fuse... You Kent always git whatchu wahnt..."-'Stones

redpill's picture

And throw pearls before the swine?  I think not.  Protesters tend not to be the best listeners.

GoinFawr's picture

Really?

And you know this from experience I bet...

So, would you categorize yourself as a privileged prejudiced elitist defeatist who has already decided to play right into his enemies' hands then? Or is this more of a 'I'm all right so ef all the rest' Ayn Randian kinda thing?

If so: good luck with that. I mean look at how well that has been working so far...

Haywood Jablowme's picture

 

"Rebellion has arrived in America"........

WELL IT'S ABOUT COT FUCKIN' DAMN TIME.  CAN WE BLOW THE ROOF OFF THIS BITCH NOW OR WHAT?

WITH ALL THE GOLD, SILVER, BUG-OUT SHIT, ETC. THAT I'VE ACCUMULATED, I HONESTLY DON'T EVEN GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT IT ANYMORE.  IT'S TIME TO GET RIGHT.



redpill's picture

Nope, I'm more of the "actions instead of hollow words" type.  So instead of protesting in NYC and then going to Starbucks and buying a latte using a TBTF Bank Credit Card with a $10k balance, I'm actually modifying my lifestyle to get away from empowering the large financial institutions that are enslaving the populace.

 

GoinFawr's picture

"So instead of protesting in NYC and then going to Starbucks and buying a latte using a TBTF Bank Credit Card with a $10k balance..."

I'm sure some of them do that, but it says a lot about you that you would imply/assume that was the mean for the protestors.

"I'm actually modifying my lifestyle to get away from empowering the large financial institutions that are enslaving the populace."

Hahah! Ok, ok, 'Action Jackson', that's just about as vague as any FEDspeak rationalization I've ever had to read,  but I guess that's all you are willing to offer. I'll take your word for it; whatever helps you sleep at night.

FWIW: 'Protesting' is an action, last time I checked.

Look, all I am saying is that your self righteous attitude and stereotypical presumptions about the character of those protesting are very rude because they are directed at people who are risking their own personal safety on, to their knowledge, your behalf. And for that reason if you feel they are misguided you owe it to them to go down and tell them why, rather than denigrating their efforts from the relative safety of your own couch. Which, incidentally, is precisely what TPTB you claim to loathe so much wish you to do. Either that or you should just STFU about it IMO.

Das Capitalist's picture

Activism is a farce.

I do it anyway.

It helps me sleep at night.

sullymandias's picture

right on.

the radical left and libertarians are natural allies. they are the two most vocal and active opponents of fascist federal government and the corrupt corporate/capitalist system. i dont know why the two groups have such a hard time with each other.

Bob's picture

Bingo.  It's the Ron Paul-Ralph Nader Paradox.  We'd all love that ideal world that is made in our own fantasy image, but in this one enlightened compromise is absulutely necessary. 

Nobody can agree on fundamentally important things (military, TBTF, civil liberties, etc.) more meaningfully than the princpled libertarians and principled liberals. 

Our failure to do so seems to be the most tragically defining divide-and-conquer action going on today. 

Das Capitalist's picture

Bob, this is one of the more inspiring things I've read in the ZH comments section.  Speak on my man,

redpill's picture

How am I self-righteous?  Because I'm tired of protesters that are cheap facades?  You're living in a dream world if you don't think most of these protesters are knee deep in debt and have no plan of getting out.  They are the cash cows for the very people they rail against.

 

You really want to protest?  Close your goddamn Chase account and find a local credit union.  Relentlessly e-mail your boss/CEO/financial advisor and tell them you are tired of their bullshit mutual fund options that feed the Wall Street beast and you want to be able to have precious metal holdings in your 401k plan.  Stop buying things on credit.  Get out of debt and stay that way.  THAT is protesting, because THAT is what takes their power away.  Walking down the street and waving a sign?  Might be a nice spectacle, but doesn't really require much other than time.  Where's the real sacrifice?  Half these protester types treat it as an activist party and don't have a fucking clue why they are even there.  The other half would eagerly gobble up a government handout and sell their vote for it at the drop of a hat.  So please, save your fucking lecture.

 

GoinFawr's picture

Are you drunk? I only ask because, like you, drunks sometimes tell the same story over and over again without realizing that they are repeating themselves.

redpill's picture

Remember what I said about some folks not being good listeners?  Perhaps I need to keep repeating it until you begin to.

GoinFawr's picture

Hahaha!  My that`s rich, coming from you.

"Me self righteous? Because I'm tired of protesters that are cheap facades? You're living in a dream world if you don't think most of these protesters are knee deep in debt and have no plan of getting out."

Riiight. Wow, you just know everyone, don`t you? So how did you get so much in-depth personal information about every last protestor in order to support your inane assertions? MSM or online video clips is my guess. IE you didn`t. you`re just talking out of your spotty behind. More likely wishful thinking to rationalize your own recreance by disparaging  someone else`s legitimate actions on your behalf .

You know which cheap facade I`m tired of? The flimsiest  one where someone like you presents his unsubstantiated opinions of others as if they are based on fact. Dead fucking tired of that I am. Seriously, where are you getting your information? 

For someone who claims they are not self righteous you certainly seem to have an inflated opinion of your own piety and virtuousness, IMO.

"They are the cash cows for the very people they rail against."

Hunh? Yeah, they`re there because they are sick and tired of being treated like cattle.

"You really want to protest? Close your goddamn Chase account and find a local credit union. Relentlessly e-mail your boss/CEO/financial advisor and tell them you are tired of their bullshit mutual fund options that feed the Wall Street beast and you want to be able to have precious metal holdings in your 401k plan. Stop buying things on credit. Get out of debt and stay that way. THAT is protesting, because THAT is what takes their power away. Walking down the street and waving a sign? Might be a nice spectacle, but doesn't really require much other than time. Where's the real sacrifice? "

Excuse me, but what on earth makes you think you know that I, or any/all of those protesting, haven`t already done all these things (or their equivalents) and more a long time ago?

Tell you what, you get kettled, maced and arrested for promoting the interests of some ingrate like yourself and then tell me if you  can recognize the 'real sacrifice.'

"Half these protester types treat it as an activist party and don't have a fucking clue why they are even there. The other half would eagerly gobble up a government handout and sell their vote for it at the drop of a hat."

Heh, you`re one helluva self-purported omniscient , I`ll give you that. I heard you the first time, honest. Got anything more than state conditioned rote to back up your position? I'm listening...

Landrew's picture

I could not have said it better ha! I so dislike people like that, pretenders who talk Cock Brother Bullshit! I say FUCK the banksters! Occupy Wall Street has it right , fuck the banksters! I sent them 10 pizzas to Liberty Square through 

http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/liberatos-pizza/menu

A Mom/Pop pizza joint that sent free food! Join me in sending food and I will be there when I get back from Chile.

 

Ranger4564's picture

I go by almost everyday to play my part, but a friend and I also donated money to the Food and Media groups, to make sure they're alive and getting the message out.  Since i live in NYC, I don't eat the food / drink they have on site... I leave that to the people who are spending the nights / days there.

The world has always needed people with the courage to go out and speak up, so the less courageous could muster their courage and join. That is what OWS is... courageous people showing the rest of the country that it's OK to come the fuck out and show the rich that they are far outnumbered. 

The People United, Can Never Be Defeated.

TruthInSunshine's picture

It's a start.

That's the important thing.

Every meaningful revolution has an inception, like the tip of a root that has broken through the soil, that germinated from a seed.

During those baby steps that ultimately lead to a significant initial wave striking out against a grossly unfair system, those in power sneer and scoff at "the fools" (and some or many that have joined in may even be fools).

But when there's a just cause that is the foundation of any such movement, and a dire crisis in need of resolution, where things spring from the initial baby steps ultimately depends on wise, moral, inexhaustible and courageous people who will lead the way forward, focusing on the core and critical issues, staying on point, and plotting their path and those of their followers in an effective, efficient and determined manner.

 

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

-- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi 

macholatte's picture

They are protesting the right thing for the wrong reason and with a logically incoherent motivation.  Sounds like '60s leftists alright.

 

Yes, but it doesn't mean they are wrong. They need leadership.

Cornel West is a racist pig. He hates white people and supports Obama because he is black, period. The man has no redeeming qualities unless you are also a black racist. It is that kind of person the children are listening to. Let them migrate to a Ron Paul or even a Herman Caine but the mindset from brainwashing over the past 40 years is difficult to overcome. Look at the protests in London. Whining about a hike in tuition but not a peep about a Royal Wedding. Serfs to be sure.

Also, Jamie Dimon lives in an alternate universe as do most of the folks he plays with. JPM pays his chauffeur and butler, he has more prestige and cash and perks than he can ever spend so keeping his job is job 1 and nothing else matters. Trade places with him and see how you feel. Expecting him or his buddies to have compassion for commoners is fantasy.

 

Do you seriously expect me to be the first Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress?
Prince Charles

Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed.
Prince Philip

I sometimes wonder if two thirds of the globe is covered in red carpet.
Prince Charles

 

 

Bananamerican's picture

"Yes, but it doesn't mean they are wrong. They need leadership."

they might need a song too...ya never know

http://songsofthegreatdepression.blogspot.com/2011/09/hypnotized.html

Ura Bonehead's picture

Let’s be honest.  These are the same radical, professional ‘protesters’ who spend their time trashing and destroying cities hosting WTO meetings, etc.  If there’s ever a REAL war in the streets then I’ll be in the first wave.  But these kids need to move back in with their parents, return to school… and take the time to learn what’s REALLY going on so they can be good and pissed when their (currently dysfunctional) anger is REALLY needed.  And by the way…..  I think I’ve watched all the available videos.  No reason for the mace and beatings but it isn’t as if the clowns protesting weren’t egging on the cops, creating a LOT of tension.  I’m in a comfortable easy chair and I even felt a little threatened.

 

Return to your homes, citizens.  The time and place for your deployment will come.  Just not now, not NYC.

Hapte's picture

They teach what's "really" going on in school?

Ura Bonehead's picture

Who said anything about "teaching." I said "learn." Besides, sitting in a business school class or the school library is a more productive way to sit on your ass and find answers than sitting on your ass in the middle of Wall Street bellyaching to a crowd of nothing more than 300 Policemen, copping attitude, yelling cute sound bites and waving signs with catchy slogans ("I spent ten days in Freedom Square and all I got was this lousy democracy." Jeez). Marketing, good management skills, business communication... At least those are things they still teach in school, aren't it? I just HATE seeing wasted energy and a lost message (agree with it or not) and that's all that's happening with these protesters.

College also gives you time to grow-up and realize you can't have a positive influence towards change with only youthful attitude and a loud voice. For course, college or not, some boys never become men.

Ranger4564's picture

Wrong.  The new paradigm of the 21st and future centuries is leaderless decision making.  It is people who rise and fall, like waves, to make their mark for a brief time and then let others rise. The paradigm is what Anonymous represents, and what OWS is using on site when it comes to people expressing views / directing meetings. They don't need someone from outside to act like another pompous prick. They need people to respect that to have true democracy, you need direct democracy, so the only way forward is to speak your mind, then let other decide, Yay or Nay.  No Leadership... you want to lead, join a bank.

Bob's picture

FYI, Cornell West has nothing but contempt for Barry Obama.  He's been tarred and feathered by most of the so-called Left for it. 

macholatte's picture

Yes he's trying to make himself important by saying he won't support Obama but so what? Go check out West from 2008-2009. He's whinning because Barry is not black enough.

High Plains Drifter's picture

i posted that this movement is probably funded by soros. now why would he fund such a thing?  hmmmm....

AldousHuxley's picture

chump-assed

 chumps don't protest, they mark snakry remakrs on the internet

suburban teenagers

there is no true suburb in population dense metros like the NYC area unlike undereducated redneck states like Alabama

1960s Radical Senior Citizen activist handlers

maybe they don't like their life time savings first halved then getting 1% interest

nutcase Cornell West

more confused nutcases in the tea party going against their own self interest

"Useful Idiots" for the very Oligarchs that they protesting

99.9% are all used in one way or another unless you are top 0.1% of those who are truely financially independent...the capitalist owners. Even Obama is used.

 They're a bunch of wannabe, spoiled kids

like Paris Hilton, Bush twins, Walmart trust fund kids, chickhawks in the republican party? But baby boomer tax payers are spoiling the wannabe elite number crunchers on wall st. with bonuses inmagnitude times greater

 
the police know this:

  police are professionally UNIONIZED and run on well oiled pension ponzi scheme on non-unionized private workers' dime. These kids don't have nobody representing them thus the protest of getting screwed. The young are always revolutionaries.

It's ridiculous crap:

What is truely ridiculous is your lack of understanding of what all this is about. It is 0.1% of wealth owners VS the rest. There is no other game. Public protests are a symtom of a sick society. America is dying and you are not helping.

crazyjsmith's picture

@ Hugh

Yeah, those silly protestors dressed up all funny like, just throwing good Tea into the Harbor, imagine that?  Yep, Useful Idiots.

Prometheus418's picture

Or not (concise speech being a lot art, that is)

Consider the state of our politics- if the soundbytes get any shorter, they'll just be yelling "'Merica- fuck yeah." and people will vote based on their hairdo.

Most things worth thinking about actually cannot be distilled into a sentance or two, and believing that they can be impoverishes us all.

Creepy Lurker's picture

"Consider the state of our politics- if the soundbytes get any shorter, they'll just be yelling "'Merica- fuck yeah." and people will vote based on their hairdo."

 

I thought they were doing that already, and for a long time now, too.

Personal recollection, 1988: I'm standing in front of the deli counter in a Safeway waiting my turn. There is a lively discussion about the presidential election going on between the customers and the guy behind the counter. The guy behind the counter announces he's going to vote for Bush, so ask him, "Why? What do you like about him?"

He answers, "Well, you wouldn't drink Dukaukis beer, would you?" He is completely serious.

I facepalmed.

pods's picture

You can't you idiot, that is why you do the research! 

pods

How can I trust anything from someone signing off "I am Chumbawamba" ridiculous as signing off Pods.

toady's picture

I can't understand why people refuse to think...

It says 'chumbwumba' or 'pods', so I refuse to think.

Read it! Think! Then accept or reject.

whstlblwr's picture

Limited time, weed out bullshit posters full of self.

whstlblwr's picture

Looks like too much ego to me. Sign off with fake name. WTF?!

chumbawamba's picture

Do you have a point, harem boy?

I am Chumbawamba.

pods's picture

It is called a nickname, not a fake name.  My nickname happens to be pods, it was given to me by a friend and it came from the movie Tin Cup, as in:

"You got that shot pods, it's a hooded 4 iron."

I very well may have a big ego.  At least I can admit it.  I also admit when I am wrong.  

So exactly what is wrong with signing off a post with a name, nickname, or even handle?

If you have found an error with the topic, I am all for hearing about it.  It is a tricky subject, and any input is welcome.

pods

msamour's picture

Pods, I believe he was making a reference to the Kent University protests of the late 60's, and it was a pun towards that. I actually understood his use of the mistake in the quote. In addition, i'm French-Canadian, and I got that. Maybe you could look up a few cultural facts before commenting.

Who's the idiot now?

pods's picture

Well I guess maybe I am?

To me it seemed as though it was a shot towards me, as in it used my handle, and it was about a general topic that I gravitate to and post on often.

If I am wrong, BFD, ain't the first and certainly won't be the last time.  

pods

JohnG's picture

Chumba has been here writing and knowing the truth for a long, long time.  So has pods.  Have some respect for the few old-timers who are still willing to wade through the circus that the comments have become.  We've lost SO MANY good resources because of the plain idiot posters that make it difficult to sort the real from the crap.

Get real or get out.

chumbawamba's picture

Thanks.  You stated what I really couldn't care to take the time these days to say ;)

-Chumblez.