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Mike Krieger: "Rebellion Has Arrived In America"
From Mike Krieger of KAM LP
The Bill of Rights is a literal and absolute document. The First Amendment doesn't say you have a right to speak out unless the government has a 'compelling interest' in censoring the Internet. The Second Amendment doesn't say you have the right to keep and bear arms until some madman plants a bomb. The Fourth Amendment doesn't say you have the right to be secure from search and seizure unless some FBI agent thinks you fit the profile of a terrorist. The government has no right to interfere with any of these freedoms under any circumstances.
- Harry Browne
The inherent right in the people to reform their government, I do not deny; and they have another right, and that is to resist unconstitutional laws without overturning the government.
- Daniel Webster
It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.
- Samuel Adams
Rebellion Has Arrived in America
As most of you know, I spend almost as much time studying social changes and geopolitics happening around the world as I do studying markets. While carefully observing those areas are always important to a macro investor such as myself, when you are smack in the middle of a Fourth Turning they take on an increased level of importance. What has shielded the U.S. from a lot of the social strife sweeping the rest of the globe at the moment has been the U.S. dollar’s reserve status since this allows us to print seemingly infinite amounts of paper dollars and shove them down the throats of the rest of the world for their resources. This keeps the populace fat, happy and most importantly asleep and apathetic. Well I am pleased to announce that those days are OVER. The American populace is now in the very beginnings of a state of open peaceful rebellion against the criminal oligarchic mafia that runs the nation through fraud and corruption. The status quo is likely to become increasingly defensive as a result and may lash out aggressively like a cornered rat, but they cannot and will not win. They can only really win when they own your mind and that battle has already been lost. Six months from now the state of rebellion will have moved from just beneath to the surface to the forefront of everyone’s mind. It will be a peaceful and constitutional rebellion and it will end with new ways of doing things, more freedoms and a very long road toward rebuilding a safe, fair, free and localized society once TPTB’s prison planet grid of control has been torn down forever.
Occupy Wall Street
I will be the first to admit that I faded the whole idea of this “Occupy Wall Street” protest. I had already seen several failed attempts at protest in NYC come and go and I just sadly assumed the spirit of that once great city had died forever. I am extraordinarily happy to report that I was wrong. When I watched some video of police brutality at NYC protests this weekend I was stunned. Not because the cops acted like some mercenary storm trooper thugs, but because this protest that has started the week before still had momentum! Check out this link regarding what is going on. It has two must watch videos. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=194965 The first one already has over 400k watches on youtube. This is the spark I have been waiting for and I am pleased beyond belief that it happened in Manhattan right where it should. How about this appearance of Cornel West at the protest on Tuesday. http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/cornel-west-at-occupy-wall-str... I am proud of my old home today. This is a big deal. The serfs are coming together. Keep it up.
Most of you reading this right now are thinking that this is interesting but he is exaggerating and this will blow over. I am here to assure you that it is not and this whole thing is about to grow exponentially as the economy continues to stagnate and people climb the learning curve. Are you aware that the founder of Salon.com, David Talbot, is publicly calling for an “American Spring?” This of course is a reference to the Arab Spring, in which revolution swept across North Africa earlier this year and led to the collapse of the Tunisian and Egyptian governments and then major government bribes to the people living in the oil rich kingdoms. Mr. Talbot writes “In these increasingly hard times, Salon is dedicating itself to an American revival. Our editorial mission will become more explicitly and aggressively populist. We will be publishing more investigative pieces, exposing the shadow dance of power. And both Democratic and Republican targets will be fair game, since both parties are increasingly under the control of the same corporate forces.” His full piece is here http://www.salon.com/about/american_spring/index.html?story=/about/insid... You need to read it if you want to understand where all of this is headed. How about journalist Chris Hedges talking about “Occupy Wall Street” http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/chris-hedges-occupy-wall-stree... We the people now understand it is not “rich vs. poor,” businessperson vs. teacher.” It is serf vs. oligarch. They are 0.1% and we know what they are up to. GAME ON.
Jaime Dimon Proves he is a Complete and Total Psychopath
I am not even going to write my own thought paragraph about how delusional and insane this man’s statements were the other day on banking regulations. Rather I will provide links to articles by people that have done a great job of exposing the absurdity of this parasitic oligarch’s comments. My favorite line by far on this is from fellow ex-Wall Streeter Nomi Prins who writes:
“There are few things more cringe-inducing than a government-subsidized bank CEO spouting self-serving, entitlement-laden idiocy to the world just because he and his bank might be subject to some extra constraints. That hasn’t stopped JPM Chase CEO Jamie Dimon from acting like a spoiled, sociopathic brat while characterizing proposed Basel III capital requirements and regulations as ‘anti-American’ at every opportunity. They are not ‘anti-American’ but globally risk-mitigating in a time of widespread economic Depression, a point lost in the haze of Dimon’s megalomania.”
Her full article is here http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-jamie-dimon%E2%80%99s-shameful-.... Precious metals hero and money manager Eric Sprott chimed in with this letter to the Globe and Mail. http://www.businessinsider.com/eric-sprott-jamie-dimon-letter-2011-9
Jaime Dimon is a real piece of work. It is as if he is asking for a custom made guillotine (metaphorically speaking of course as I do not condone violence in any way shape or form). At least Lloyd Blankfein had the sense to read the writing on the wall, shut up and hire an attorney.
So in conclusion, rebellion has arrived on America’s shores and it is about time. The moment is here for each of us to make important decisions. Save freedom and liberty or allow the oligarchs to enslave us and your children for generations. Peter Orzag recently wrote that “We need Less Democracy.” http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/94940/peter-orszag-democrac... This is what these guys are gunning for. Just think about who this “WE” he is talking about is.
And don’t kid yourself. Pretty much everyone on this list is a serf no matter how rich you are. Don’t kid yourself.
Peace and Wisdom,
Mike
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A Massive Union Just Voted To Side With The Wall Street Protesters Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-massive-union-just-voted-to-side-with-the-wall-street-protesters-2011-9?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=clusterstock#ixzz1ZMzPMEPxSalon's American spring is liberal populist claptrap. They are trying to launch a movement like the Tea Party, but progressive. The problem is, they give themselves away in their peice, lauding people who are launching 'green' start ups, and calling the Tea Party 'phony'. You see, to these people, only progressive darling causes are worthy of their support - anyone who disagrees with them is just wrong. So no, there 'American Spring' movement is stillborn because it fails to take off its political blinders.
MEFA camps will soon be opened and free all. Long live the Republic.
that idiot o'reilly, on fixednews, called it a "anti-capitalist" protest........made my blood boil.........
Stop, you're repeating yourself.
Police behaving badly? What else is new. Now we turning community police into mini para military armies. We have an arms industry just for this. Protect and serve has become "Collect and serve" ...collect fines and serve you with summuns.
Max, love you, but we already have an independent movement in America. It's called the Tea Party movement and TPTB already hate them and are scared shitless of them because they want to take back control of our government. Nobody owns the TP. TPTB would love to see an "American Spring" successfully marginalize the TP. As genuine as many of you may feel for an AS, don't be a dupe and fall for it.
Salon.com has become irrelevant the last two years because they went hard left for Obama and the socialist democrats. Of course Salon.com would support "revolution" in America.... just in time to help Obama's re-election (and themselves). It's another fake group and manufactured idea, like the phony "Coffee Party" that was scrabbled together by the discredited socialists as they were about to get wiped out in the last election for being fascists.
Salon.com is the home of crony corporatism and Obama syncophantic liars like Joan Walsh. The Tea Party is really against cronyism, corporatism, fascism, banksterism, and supports constitutional rule of law and fiscal discipline without Jeff Immelt sleeping over in the Lincoln bedroom. The TP is also a highly educated demographic group and TPTB are scared shitless by these of average and decent Americans who also pick up the place after they have a rally.
Supporting Salon.com's "American Spring" is support for crony socialism and Obama -- the Solynderella-in-Chief. It is counter propaganda to marginalize the Tea Party.
Why isn't the Tea Party joining this movement? Wall Street corruption certainly is a part of government corruption. Is it not? Tea Party's lack of involvment tells everyone what they already knew about the Tea Party. Astroturf Koch suckers.
You've got that exactly wrong. A Tea Partier is an individual who gets pissed about the absurdity of government in his life who then stands up and shouts "No!" The "members" are not in a Rolodex. But I'll bet you that there are some Tea Partiers (probably of the Ron Paul variety) floating around that NYC protest.
How come I can agree about government corruption, yet those on the right cannot agree concerning the problem that capital is posing? I think most Teapublicans are probably somewhere bitching about keeping the government out of their social security or some such nonsense, and calling all the occupywallstreet people communists.
Why don't you go out and meet some Teabaggers instead of taking Chris Matthews word for what they're all about.
Sadly, I know plenty of Teapublicans. Fakes, everyone of them.
It must be interesting to be able to see into the souls of everyone you meet.
Most the Teapublicans I know, used to claim to be libertarians. Yet they always voted Republican party line, worshipped Rush, Glen and Bill and now don't support Ron Paul. You tell me, fake or not?
Perhaps you need to meet a better class of Teabagger.
We need to do this, people. Its going to happen anyway. Think of it as an anti-hosed movement.
The Wall Street protestors sound like a bunch of socialists.
Look at their demands: they want a Tobin Tax and a negative Income Tax. They want more government intervention, more theft, more redistribution.
People are too dumb to fix the economy. Only the economy can fix the economy.
They want more government intervention, more theft, more redistribution.
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They are your typical US citizens then...
When we get our libertarian utopia, I am building a coal plant next to your house, with fans that blow the smoke towards you. Don't like it, then fuck off. It's my land and I can do what I want. If you move, I am following you and building another plant.
Polluting your neighbor's property isn't permitted in a libertarian society. You will be punished until you comply with the property rights of others.
(Insert rattlesnake image here.)
Don't Blow Smoke Up My Ass.
PS -- Individualists don't build Utopias, moron.
So then you wouldn't believe in any modern civilization than? As it is, ALL human bodies contain poisons from industry. No way around that. So if you advocate libertarianism without civilization, I am all in with you. But now you have just crossed the line to my view, anarchism. If you want capital and modern society, you will have to have some infringment of your liberty. (and health)
If you believe that pollution is inevitable regardless of the extant political system then why did you chose it as your example to attack the concept of a libertarian society?
ONLY because libertarians pretend that we can have a capitalistic society within an anarchist system. Simple reasoning shows this is not true. Your rights will be infringed upon somehow, no matter how much you true. To break the bonds, you must escape the system completely.
Capitalism and anarchism are the same thing. You can't have one without the other.
CA, what's the half-life of a vacuum exposed to a windstorm?
Forty two.
hahaha! Nerd! (In a good way)
Historically speaking, power vacuums don't last long, even if it's a sure 'nough Dyson. People start to organize, their leaders suffer from delusions of grandeur, cults of personality develop... you see where I am going with this? We're social animals after all, so as a species we have a tendency to feel safer belonging to a group. It was likely a very useful survival technique before we managed to wipe out the vast majority of predators larger than us.
Anarcho capitalism, like many ideals, is very very nice, but an absolute pipe dream on a planet this size with 7 billion people all struggling for survival on it. You're gonna have to get used to the idea of taking some bad with the good my friend...either that or you'll need to wipe out around 6.9 billion or so; or is that your cunning plan? Hmmm, some believe that leftover 100 mil would all be meek..
Capitalism and anarchism are the same thing. You can't have one without the other.
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Wrong. Capitalism is based on property rights, which stems from certain social orders.
Anarchy as it is anarchy can not deliver the promise that the specific social orders requested for the implementation of property rights, will indeed be.
US cheap propaganda.
>ALL human bodies contain poisons from industry
Then your property rights over your own body may have been violated. You may have a legitimate claim against the pollutors.
Good luck achieving justice in our ossified, monopolistic justice system. Hopefully the pollutor(s) at fault aren't somehow already indemnified by our government.
Dioxin is found in all human breast milk. CO2 may (or may not, I believe it is) be the cause of global warming, which will kill off most of the planet by 2100. Currently 200 species of animals goes extinct, daily. Due to production farming and land clearing, the Amazon Basin rainforest has now entered a self reinforcing cycle of desertification, so even if we stopped cutting the trees down, it will all disappear anyways. 90% of all large fish in the ocean have disappeared since 1950 and the oceans will be dead by 2030. (Give or take a decade.) All these, and more atrocities, are because of 'modern' living. How would the lack of government, yet maintaining industry and a free market help solve these issues? How is libertarianism an answer to what I view as attacks on not just my property rights, but my rights as a living creature?
Individual action solves non of these issues. Only group action will.
Individuals can act together voluntarily. Agreeing to respect the natural rights of others is the prerequisite for an effective society not the negation of society.
Ok, so how do we have modern industrial society without envrionmental degradation and without poisoning all life? If you can figure that out, I would make you president of the world.
The answer lies in the individual talents and desires of the six billion inhabitants of planet Earth. President of the world is on exactly the wrong tack.
> How would the lack of government, yet maintaining industry and a free market help solve these issues?
And how is the presence of government going to help solve the issues? Obviously it hasn't.
Regarding the extinction of fish or forests, strong enforcement of property rights is the cure. If I owned part of the Amazon Basin rainforest I would not let it be destroyed recklessly. At worst, I would log it but also husband it to be sustainable by replanting trees. This is what Weyerhauser does with its property.
I recommend reading Hazlitt, von Mises, and Rothbard. FYI this isn't the best forum to teach you about economics or help you grow a brain. And you certainly won't refute centuries of scholarly research and thought here with your pathetic arguments.
You miss one thing. Ownership is THE PROBLEM. No one has a right to own the Amazon. No one has a right to own any life. Human or not. You are just advocating more of the same. Slavery in a different name.
>No one has a right to own the Amazon. No one has a right to own any life. Human or not.
So I take it you ate rocks for breakfast today?
Cute. No, sadly I live within a system I cannot change by myself. A one man revolution = Ted Kaczynski. But I am willing to buy a house that also functions for the manufacturing of soap. You are welcome to move in and become a space monkey.
I simply do not have the tools or know how on how to live like how people should. I am willing to learn, but first we must stop the culture of death and destruction.
If I owned part of the Amazon Basin rainforest I would not let it be destroyed recklessly. At worst, I would log it but also husband it to be sustainable by replanting trees.
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No.
In capitalism, short term profiting is the way to go. Somebody who has the sequence of short term profiting right align better profit that the person who has a sequence of long term profiting right. Shown mathematically.
Conservation can not exist in this system.
What happens is that one must draw as much wealth as possible from its private property to reinvest in one another activity that is likely to bring better returns.
Private property rights of harvesters are respected in certain parts of the world. They all exhibit the same scheme: extract as fast as possible (therefore magnifying pollution) and use the wealth acquired there to buy a place in a non polluted place that was built thanks to the transfer of wealth coming from many other polluted places.
It has to be told as sometimes, libertarians would like to claim that there is no cause to pollute one place you own and could live on.
But no, there are. If one has a choice between polluting one's place and be able to buy a ticket to live in place that is benefiting from the pollution of the place, that is the way to go.
Id est, much better to live far from a mine, tree farm, food farm that are polluted as long as the transfer of wealth from these places is achieved.
Libertarians are utopists in their belief that everything will be perfect with no government and yet we will still have a modern society. If only we can banish all government, unicorns and rainbows will appear everywhere.
Ok, so maybe blowing coal smoke at Dr. Acula is entirely fair. But what I will do is open up crack dens and brothels all around his and your house. We won't infringe on your precious property or individual rights, but will run down all other land and houses around you. Hell, we will burn down half the neighborhood and maybe even put in a junk yard that operates 24/7 across the street, with as loud as possible equipment.
Why don't you just move to Somalia? They have NO government.
Or why don't you just be honest? If you don't want society, just say so. As I said below I am fine with that. I am sick of empire and environmental destruction.
No libertarian ever said that. Perfect isn't possible and all objective minds know that. Do you have a hearing or a comprehension problem?
That's just a bizarre misrepresentation of the libertarian position. Are you that far out of your league intellectually that you must resort to such obvious straw men?
If you believe that government and society are the same thing then please tell me which piece of legislation decreed that Edison should invent a lightbulb or that the Beatles should be the kings of rock? Society encompasses far more than government. How can you not know that?
Unicorns and rainbows was a joke. What I am saying is that true believer libertarians cannot see outside of the box they have constructed for themselves. There are plenty of problems and issues, that are never talked about and simply ignored.
Edison and the Beatles did happen within the confines of a society with a government, so I don't really get your point. In fact we could go the other way. Think of all the inventions that have come into being because of NASA. What about the internet and all the industry that has grown out of it's invention, which of course is because of government. Most of not just our infrastructure, but all societies infrastructures came about because of governments. It is no coincidence that after farming appeared, cities and specialization appeared ;and that governments appeared. They go hand in hand.
What I advocate could be called anarchist primitivism or indigenous life, hunter gatherer.
Tyler Durden
PROJECT MAYHEM
If the resources appropriated by the government to fund NASA had instead been employed by those who earned the money in order to improve their own situations we'd have far more interesting and useful technology than a ramshackle space shuttle or two.
I'm calling 'conjecture' on that one.
Eg. If a Gov't had funded Tesla instead of private interests stealing his discoveries we wouldn't all be slaves to monstrous oil companies right now... see what I did there?
Libertarians are utopists in their belief that everything will be perfect with no government and yet we will still have a modern society. If only we can banish all government, unicorns and rainbows will appear everywhere.
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A confusion here.
Libertarians are first and all US citizens.
It is all what it takes to understand their approach.
As such, it means they do not disagree with the system, they disagree with being on the wrong side of the system.
It means that they want to turn tables to be on the right side of the deal.
Libertarians are often young people which is easily understood when one remembers that the US was built out of theft and was extremelly efficient.
The result is that the culture of theft can no longer be maintained if not at the expense of the US. The US owns most of the chips and any new theft is likely to be done from US 'property'
That is why they want a total enforcer of property rights.
And just like any other US citizen, they will try to disemble their way to power. What they promise is just to hone desire. The real purpose is to secure a position where they could enjoy the benefit of the US world order when not fearing to be tossed to the wrong side of the US world order.
Polluting your neighbor's property isn't permitted in a libertarian society. You will be punished until you comply with the property rights of others.
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Wrong. And I will show it quickly because it is US propaganda and thus cheap.
Lets picture the private ownership of a river. As such, the river can be segmented in various privately owned lots.
One guy owns the upward lot, which is directly connected to the source.
By private property rights, this guy can pollute his own property, including the water in his river lot.
Following the stream, the pollution spreads downwards to all the river.
Now libertarians will claim that the pollution moving into their lot is an infringement of their property rights.
And might want to force the other guy to screen its pollutants. But what? At this point, since this guy is forced to screen what is flowing through its border, it also means that he can screen the water from flowing through its borders.
Basically, through property rights, the guy has the possibility to stop the river from flowing its former path.
Libertarians are US citizens, they are duplicitous, promise things they can not deliver because they are not interested in delivering them.
They know about this, they know private property is a zero sum game and that through private property approach, you have to let pollution flow with its vector else they would withdraw the vector with it.
But they are duplicitous and wont tell outright. They will prefer exotic examples like aerodiffused pollution because stopping an air flow is harder than building a dam.
But you can´t pollute MY land and diminsh the value of MY property. Now you fuck off.
You're holding back my freedoms man. If I want to open up crack houses in your neighborhood, I can. It's my property. Oh wait, wasn't government developed strictly to mediate these issues? Hmmmm. Synapse misfire!
Someone might finally decide to shoot you.
except the 'economy' is made up of..........people......
They want all you have, and they gained control of your government. They now have started the extraction process using your government as a tool.
We need to know that revolution is not an option, as all we will do is go-around-again. And they are counting on it.
Change can only come forward by gaining control over our thoughts.
Let’s start the discussion there …
I'm always amazed the the police officers can't put their skull-crushing mentality away for a few minutes and realize that they are getting screwed as much as everybody else.
You can always get half of the poor to beat up on the other half.
This post and entire thread is just fucking stupid. A bunch of traders sitting around musing on 'revolution' and some moronic group of wannabe left wingers who wouldn't even understand if you pointed out that Wall Street isn't downtown any longer. If I wasn't addicted to this blog, i'd kill the link.
German Peasant Revolt of 1524
Peasant Demands ...
Summary of The Twelve Articles
1.Every municipality shall have the right to elect and remove a preacher if he behaves improperly. The preacher shall preach the gospel simply, straight and clearly without any human amendment, for, it is written, that we can only come to God by true belief.
2.The preachers shall be paid from the great tithe. A potential surplus shall be used to pay for the poor and the war tax. The small tithe shall be dismissed, for it has been trumped-up by humans, for the Lord, our master, has created the cattle free for mankind.
3.It has been practice so far, that we have been held as villain, which is pitiful, given that Christ redeemed all of us with his precious bloodshed, the shepherd as well as the highest, no one excluded. Therefore, it is devised by the scripture, that we are and that we want to be free.
4.It is unfraternal and not in accordance with the word of God that the simple man does not have the right to catch game, fowls, and fish. For, when God our master created man, he gave him power over all animals, the bird in the air and the fish in the water.
5.The high gentlemen have taken sole possession of the woods. If the poor man needs something, he has to buy it for double money. Therefore, all the woods that were not bought (relates to former community woods, which many rulers had simply appropriated) shall be given back to the municipality so that anybody can satisfy his needs for timber and firewood thereof.
6.One shall have understanding (pretty much reduce) with regard to the corvee which keeps increasing from day to day to how our parents served in accordance with exclusively the word of God.
7.The nobility shall not raise the peasant's corvee in excess of what was established at bestowal. (Raising corvee without any agreement was not unusual.)
8.Many properties can not support the levies (lease fees). Honest men shall inspect these properties and shall determine the levy upon their discretion so that the peasant shall not do his work in vain, for every person is worth his pay.
9.New rules are ever made for the great outcry “große Frevel” (a fine that had to be paid to the court). One does not punish with regards to the subject but at discretion (raising fines and arbitrary punishment was common). It is our opinion that we shall be punished by old, written penalty with regards to what was done and not to favour.
10.Several have appropriated meadows and acres (community land that was at the disposition of all members), that belong to the municipality. Those we want back to our common hands.
11.The “Todfall” (a sort of inheritance tax) shall be abolished altogether and never again shall widows and orphans be robbed contrary to God and honour.
12.It is our decision and final opinion that if one or several of the articles mentioned herein were not in accordance with the word of God, those we shall refrain from if it is explained to us on the basis of the scripture. If several articles were already granted to us and it emerged afterwards that they were ill, they shall be dead and null. Likewise, we want to have reserved that if even more articles are found in the writ that were against God and a grievance to though neighbour.
"The function of law and theology are the same: to keep the poor from taking back by violence what the rich have stolen by cunning" Robert Anton Wilson
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TO GOSPLAN
AMEN BROTHER !!!!!
TESTIFY !!!!
Nothing will happen. Dilution is what happened to the peace movement of the sixties , co- opted, infiltrated, divided and conquered by the system they sought to overthrow. Reminds me of an old drinking toast - " Here's to you, and heres to me, and if, by chance, we disagree, then, Fuck You ! And, here's to me ! " All American fight song. Everybody for himself.
The beginning of the original American rebellion; An article from The Alarm May 1773 (a newsletter in protest of the Tea Act of 1773).
I've simply swapped out a few words (in parenthesis) to make it relevant to today. Otherwise things are not much different then they were nearly 250 years ago.
"Are we in like Manner to be given up to the Disposal of the East India Company (THE CORPORATION/WALL ST.), who have now the assurance, to step forth in Aid of the US GOVERNMENT, to execute his (their) Plan, of enslaving America? Their Conduct in Asia (THE ENTIRE GLOBE), for some Years past, has given simple Proof, how little they regard the Laws of Nations, the Rights, Liberties, or Lives of Men. They have levied War, excited Rebellions, dethroned lawful Princes, and sacrificed Millions for the Sake of Gain. The Revenues of Mighty Kingdoms have centered in their Coffers. And these not being sufficient to glut their Avarice, they have, by the most unparalleled Barbarities, Extortions, and Monopolies, stripped the miserable Inhabitants of their Property, and reduced whole Provinces (COUNTRIES) to Indigence and Ruin. Fifteen hundred Thousands (BILLIONS), it is said, perished by Famine in one Year (LIVE IN POVERTY), not because the Earth denied its Fruits; but [because] this Company and their Servants engulfed all the Necessaries of Life, and set them at so high a Rate that the poor could not purchase them."
It's a never ending cycle of rise and fall, freedom and repression; history will continue to repeat itself. Eventually we will have a complete modern day revolution and then the cycle will begin again.
More fabled past.
The US war of independence was not a war for freedom but classwarfare, the middle class instrumentalizing the poor class to take down the upper class.
US citizens only care about freedom, truth and justice to destroy them.
1776, July, 4th is the day Justice, Truth and Freedom were killed.
Oh, yes, yes AnAnonymous, I'd rather be shackled to my government/owner, deprived of any justice after someone beats me and lied to about why it's happening. Yeah, you're right; I don't want freedom, truth or justice. Granted that's exactly what's happening figuratively (and even somewhat literally), but that's certainly not what I want.
Exactly where did you pull your version of American history from; The Revolution for Dummies?
The revolution took place because The East India Company (a corporation), supported and subsidized by the Monarchy in England sought to rise to extreme wealth/power and crush the common man in America. It's the same story today. The corporations and the wealthy grow, our government supports them and the common man is reduced to poverty in the process.
Our founding fathers sought to create a government that was to be ruled by the people for the people. Centuries of corporate (and personal) greed (i.e. the railraods, robber barons and the monolopies of today) slowly but surely infiltrated (bought/bribed) the people's government from the people. Grab a real history book, then come back and we'll chat.
Merchant class, not middle class.
.........Kennst Du Goethe?......
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Kennst du das Land, wo die Zitronen blühn,
Im dunklen Laub die Gold-Orangen glühn,
Ein sanfter Wind vom blauen Himmel weht,
Die Myrte still und hoch der Lorbeer steht,
Kennst du es wohl?
Dahin! Dahin
Möcht' ich mit dir, o mein Geliebter, zieh'n.
Kennst du das Haus? Auf Säulen ruht sein Dach,
Es glänzt der Saal, es schimmert das Gemach,
Und Marmorbilder stehn und sehn mich an:
Was hat man dir, du armes Kind getan?
Kennst du es wohl?
Dahin! Dahin
Möcht' ich mit dir, o mein Beschützer, zieh'n!
Kennst du den Berg und seinen Wolkensteg?
Das Maultier sucht im Nebel seinen Weg:
In Höhlen wohnt der Drachen alte Brut;
Es stürzt der Fels und über ihn die Flut,
Kennst du ihn wohl?
Dahin! Dahin
Geht unser Weg! o Vater, laß uns ziehn!
AnAnonymous You are a fucking idiot. Who do you work for shill?
You are on THE LIST.
That is exactly the process I described in "The Real Weapon of Mass Destruction: POVERTY".
At the time, people didn't really get the point about different factions being pitted against each other to weaken opposition to corporate invasion.
http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/the-real-weapon-of-mass...
Americans, you should demand to end the Fed and return to gold and a real free market in banking. That is: demand to be released from the Ponzi-piramidscheme that fiatcrapmoney is. Remember: all the idiots at WS and at the Fed, are just your EQUALS as human beings. But they're just much more brutal, dishonest treacherous; with you, folks, as their victims, as long as you accept and stand by. SO DEFEND YOUR DIGNITY.
I know David Talbot, a typical son-of-a-Hollywood-producer brat.... limo knee-jerk, know it all, cocky, limp-wristed liberal.
David's call to arms, if it actually results in inciting rioting, will scare the crap out of him, just like the Rodney King riots sent all the brie eaters in Hollywood out to the gun stores (people like him don't know which end to point, and god forbid, if they ever came face to face with someone that meant them harm that was one of their protected classes (underclass, black, brown, yellow, scruffy Che t-shirt wearing student) And, it sure won't be Christian tea-party "red-necks" coming after David's limo...
Cornel West, really? Better hope you ain't a white guy when this guy come's to power...
It doesn't take much to get people excited, does it?
Waiting for the day when people start omitting the caveat "I don't condone violence of any kind."
So you want revolution. please count me out. Or Revolution #9. Pleaaaase.
I applaud the protesters. Honestly nothing really is going to happen until we Americans can actually act like Americans. I do not care the color of your skin, your nationality, or your religion. The main stream media and the politicians are the only ones that care. This is how they divide you and you allow them to do it. You point the finger at your fellow man or woman call them names or think they are lesser then you when all someone is is better off then you or I. We Americans allow this to happen to us. I know some of you will most likely flame me or try to be smart and witty so you too can try to look smarter or more wise. I am not wise nor witty.
The one thing I will say about the Europeans at least they know when they are getting screwed by their politicians and will actually congregate and speak out about it. In America those people do have valid points, not all of them, but alot of them do. Yet most people think they are just radicals and they too will be treated like the tea party. I went to a tea party to see with my own eyes what they were about. I was impressed as they were not yelling and screaming, or being racists as they are portrayed in the media. Just like them the media will now start searching the protester's faces and start their personal asassinations of the people there. I think part of it is misplaced as the politicians have allowed Wall Street to carry on like criminal thugs.
But until we can put our differences aside and speak as Americans nothing will change.
To Max Krieger:
Re:
I do not condone violence in any way shape or formAhhemmmm..... forgive me, but I'm always suspicious when I hear the blanket sentiment you express here.
You quote Samuel Adams in the heading of your article: Do you agree with the violence he visiited upon the British in the Revolutionary War - or was tbhat a reprehesible act on his part?Would you viist violence upon a perp who attacked a a defenseless old lady - or maybe your wife or mother? Or would you prefer the 911 option- and just hope for the best until the cops showed up? And how would you feel if they used violence to suppress the perp? Woukd you report them to the social services for remedial education perhaps?
The Amerikan left fetishizes non violence, ignoring there are times when violence is a moral prerogative. As you showcased above, self defense is a right. So if society is metaphorically raping you, of course you have a right of defense. Not to mention that most of the non violent 'revolutions' of the past certainly contained aspects of violence. Stopping the gears that operate the machine of oppression certainly is viewed as violence by those in charge.
Look, the Daily Beast has been eating their lunch for a year now. David Talbot is now trying to be, "relevant". Meh.
Hmm. Going to be in Louisville in the near future; think I'll drop by the offices of the outfit that makes Louisville (pronounced "Looavull") Sluggers and pitch a line of bats:
Comment of the Day.
Matt Taibbi said yesterday on his blog that he was going to visit the Occupy Wall Street HQ at Liberty Park. Have not seen any writings from him on the visit yet, but that will be an interesting read I'm sure.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/occupy-wall-street-d...
Harry Browne? I shook his hand during the 2000 campaign. I spent a few hours in a room listening to him talk to about 50 or 75 people.
Sounds like he's ascared the Professional Protesters will unionize.
Man Portable sonic disrupters. Cheep.
Call now!
If you thought the Saudi response to the Bahrainian Arab Spring was brutal, wait until you see the what the USSA has planned. Good luck.
If you thought the Saudi response to the Bahrainian Arab Spring was brutal, wait until you see the what the USSA has planned. Good luck.
The US government spends hundreds of billions to protect us from terrorists like Bin Laden.
But it does nothing to protect us from financial terrorists like Jaime Dimon and Blythe Masters (the inventor of the Credit Default Swap). In his wildest dreams, Bin Laden could not have hoped to do as much damage as these people have done. And the US government has been their willing partner.
We should clear out Guantanamo and put these banksters in it. And the corrupt politicians that helped them.
Americans...
And Rebellion...
Ya Okee Dokee
What..???
No more frenc fries,with your burgers....?
No more T.V.....
Sure......
You don't condone violence in any way,shape or form.....?
Bankers love you guys when you's revolt.
@GoinFawr
Thanks for your words!
@Landrew
Thanks for the pizza link! Sending some pizzas tomorrow noon.
Hey, any strangers that are willing to put aside their petty differences and stick their necks out in an attempt to make things better for everyone else, including the 'Useful Idiots' who blithely oppose their courage, are all right by me. Same thing goes for those who would assist them; cheers!
GDP growth at 2% and less with 9%+ unemployment is a dangerous trend to keep in place.
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/
So if we're talking about the NY Wall-Street sit-in, this is not some uncoordinated thing. There's UNION support behind it (SEIU). There was a guy there making a big fuss for the media about how his parents lost their house to "this bank" and it was all for show (apparently untrue - and the guy goes to a university with $70k/year tuition. Pooooor fellow).
The only way you would not be outraged by the mistreatment of the American citizens by some of those known as "Wall Street" is if they are in the dark. I don't think this is a "right" or "left" issue - people get pissed when they see corruption and government that is completely irresponsible.
There are people on the left that are barely concealed marxists. What's the end result of a Marxist society? Its just a different system of elites telling everyone else what to do; except they are more likely to "off" you for not towing the line. Hardly the right solution; and hardly a reason to celebrate the Wall Street sit-in's current incarnation.
Look before you leap.
There's nowhere to park or urinate in New York. This was bound to happen and I saw it coming.
The same Salon that just threw that wench Joan Walsh out on her ass?
"Our editorial mission will become more explicitly and aggressively populist. We will be publishing more investigative pieces, exposing the shadow dance of power. And both Democratic and Republican targets will be fair game, since both parties are increasingly under the control of the same corporate forces."
Well, well Mr. Talbot. Firstly, I'll believe it when I read it. Secondly, we welcome you with open arms.
We've been trying to tell you Progressives that your Peeps are frauds. We already knew the GOP was a fraud. Now let's unite and agree to agree and agree to disagree. But let's stop with the lying. Salon.com wants to be a force? Leave the spin and the lies out of the debate.
I wonder how many of you on this thread get the joke. You got the Community Organizer in Chief's people organizing against his biggest and most loyal campaign donors.
But just for the sake of fun, and since we are all (well maybe not all) screaming for a revolution, the clip below might be something worth considering:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso
PS Just sub "capitalists" for you know who........ Enjoy:)
And while we are on the subject, ....... what a typical editors meeting at Salon/any leftist rag might look like:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=hUBAx8jbYNs
Mike Krieger is losing it it appears. Last week he was banging on about how the SNB pegged the franc just to devalue gold (so very wrong Mike). Now he's banging on about a rebellion coming to America. Delusionary. Seems to happen to people who have a certain view on geopolitical events and when these events don't lead to the results they were expecting they wind up grasping at all sorts of straws that they think are going to be the tipping point that will eventually prove them right. Whoever writes the geopolitical stuff on ZH has fallen into the same way of thinking unfortunately - if were to believe them there'd be 25,000 US Marines in Libya by now, the flotilla that Iran was sending into the Persian gulf would've kicked off a regional ME war, etc., etc.
If you ask most people they will say the First Amendment guarantees the right to Free Speech. So they think that they can say whatever they want.
The Supreme Court interpretation (since 1900's) however, is that "there shall be no prior restraint".
This means you can say whatever you want, BUT, if the government doesn't like what you say you are in trouble.
So if protests do pick up in size/frequency watch the tactics to switch from "rough" arrests (meant to discourage other sheeple from turning off the tv) to legal methods designed to prevent activities deemed "harmful to the public welfare".
If you ask most people they will say the First Amendment guarantees the right to Free Speech. So they think that they can say whatever they want.
The Supreme Court interpretation (since 1900's) however, is that "there shall be no prior restraint".
This means you can say whatever you want, BUT, if the government doesn't like what you say you are in trouble.
So if protests do pick up in size/frequency watch the tactics to switch from "rough" arrests (meant to discourage other sheeple from turning off the tv) to legal methods designed to prevent activities deemed "harmful to the public welfare".
Guest Post: Occupy Philadelphia is a Jewish Zionist COINTELPRO Operation
On Monday, the Metro, a free corporate daily distributed in the City of Brotherly Love announced on its cover the inaugural meeting of "Occupy Philadelphia".
This newspaper regularly features CNN correspondent columns, the cartoon version of any domestic and international fear campaigns, and 50% sports filler. So has it suddenly betrayed its state corporate propaganda function, in favor of the bongo drummers and vegan pizza munching masses?
I cringed at the fishy contradiction, and decided to avoid the affair. On Thursday, however, a bright-eyed rainbow-clad activist mentioned the meeting time and location to me, and despite my suspicions, I went.
A crowd of about 50 people mulled around Philadelphia's anarchist bookstore, and at 6:00pm the location was announced at a historic church in the city center some 15 blocks away. By the time we reached City Hall, the parade had swelled to more than 100, and chanting had begun.
Our promenade was faciliated by an unmarked beige car, manned by glowering men in suits and sunglasses, who blocked traffic on the busiest streets of the city. We then crouched our heads to enter the religious chambers. When the proceedings were finally inaugurated in front of the altar, we had swelled to more than 200 people, including a professional television crew.
After a few minutes, listening to procedural reports from Occupy Wall Street, a debate broke out over whether to use "stack" or "progressive stack". The progressive flavor, we learned, would place minorities and women ahead of other eager speakers. A white kid disagreed, and told us were all equal.
A compromise was finally reached between the affirmative action proceduralists, and the supporters of an arbitrary order -- and the church erupted into twinkling hands of democratic glee.
I knew then for certain, that the entire operation was a set-up.
While I observed the next two hours of painful, bright-eyed futility, the malicious cynicism of this particular counter intelligence operation grew brighter and brighter.
Every single leader of this operation was a self-deprecating homosexual and/or lesbian and/or Jew. I recognized the clique from the tyrannical pseudo-democracy organized around saving Philadelphia's libraries two years ago.
What a strange coincidence, a whiteish spread of the US population, sitting in church pews on the Jewish Day of Judgment, with a mid-20s Jewish ringleader who contemptuously dismissed the hierarchical "vibe" of Christian symbolism.
He also effeminately play-acts exasperation and whines over his falsely claimed inexperience, "if somebody else wants to do this, please", and then tyrannically persists in dominating the entire gathering with his scrawny cohorts -- despite the impassioned seizure of attention by a long-time Puerto Rican activist and African American youth.
All of the non-Jewish, non-White minorities who spoke insisted we first discuss why we were there, what we were protesting, and who we wanted to reach by our likely illegal activity. The faux-populist leadership would have nothing of that back-talk, and instead condescendingly sympathized, "everyone deserves an opinion".
By the time the painful confusion over how we had spent 2 hours together with hundreds of angry and activated Americans, and yet had managed to accomplish not a single decision or even open discussion -- we were scolded to "trust the process" by the enlightened, and now, all of a sudden, coordinated and expert Jewish managers at the Christian altar.
Everyone had become so exhausted from frustration, that they scurried like rats behind the grinning Jewish fag into the street for the opportunity to join the centrally controlled creation of the planning committee, to determine the agenda for the next meeting.
There's the reason why we have no protest in the United States -- the foolish white Christians, and the naive African Americans and Latinos who were present have been enslaved by the Jewish Zionist political correctness managers -- and then the rest of the world can laugh with the Wall Street Journal, who ridicules the very COINTELPRO operation their financier buddies concocted in the first place.
http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/local/article/980233--occupy-philadelph...
The street works to a point, then after the initial exchange of views, the people go home with the hope that something will change. It will not until they move off the streets and into the courtrooms with meaningful legal actions, both civil and criminal aimed at getting all the money back that has been looted from the Treasury and those responsible for the theft, arrested. The longer this nation waits to confront the criminals in power, the longer the suffering will last.
Follow the link below to the plan that will get the job done..once and for all.
http://www.zerohedge.com/print/365866
Institutionalized rebellion arrived in America with the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. The punishment for allowing this abomination in the door is coming.
http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/unnatural-law-fiat-curr...