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Mike Krieger Says To Remember The Words Of Joseph Stalin
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Remember The Words Of Joseph Stalin
Everyone imposes his own system as far as his army can reach.
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.
- All Quotes by Joseph Stalin
Know Your Enemy
I recall wanting to read Mein Kampf as a young kid, although to this day I have only read excerpts. I wanted to know what made this guy tick, what his thoughts were. How could someone justify such horrific actions. As I have progressed into adulthood I have only become more and more convinced that books written by psychopath killer dictators should be required reading for every single human being on the planet. In a similar vein, I remember hearing the argument back in high school that people should not read Machiavelli’s The Prince. The argument was that if people read a manual on devious thoughts, and the application of ruthless behavior to achieve one’s selfish ends, that it would permeate society and lead us all into a darker place. As soon as I heard this, of course, the first thing I did was head to the book store to buy it. I recall my reaction to the treatise vividly.
I remember thinking how absolutely asinine the argument for shielding this book from society really was. The conclusion I came to was that anyone with a truly sick, sociopathic mind wouldn’t learn anything from this book. Their minds already intuitively thought that way. Those that could be persuaded to think in that manner as a result of reading such a book were just dangerous sheeple that would sell their souls to work with a sick system. They would end up doing so anyway. Those people don’t scare me so much as the naturally devious mind does. They can be easily outmaneuvered by smarter men and women. If I am correct, then the worst possible thing we can do as a society is to pretend that this extremely small percentage of the population doesn’t exist or pose a threat to us in our everyday lives (please read my related article here). I think that most of the population of the United States (aka Disneyland) has been duped into thinking that somehow the Hitler or Stalin personalities of the world no longer exist! That somehow they just disappeared from the earth after World War 2, or more importantly, if they exist they are in some remote African country or Middle Eastern nation that just conveniently happens to have oil!
If Americans can indeed be convinced that such people roam the streets of the US of A then they are likely the one-off serial killer we hear about every now and again, or some homeless person that ODs on bath salts and eats some other homeless persons face on the side of a highway in Miami. The big secret is that the smart, devious and ambitious minds do not lock middle aged women in basements; they go into politics. More specifically, they pursue power wherever it can be had. This is why I refer to Washington D.C. as a the world’s largest cesspool. I think at this very moment there aren’t many places on this earth with a higher concentration per capita of twisted, immoral, inhumane creatures that somehow still refer to themselves as human beings.
So in this context, the awakening that is happening across much of my nation is really just the citizenry realizing what most of the world already knows all too well. The Siren’s song of Disney has been strong but its effect is wearing off. You can’t defeat your enemy unless you know your enemy.
Remember the Words of Joseph Stalin
As we head into the Greek election this weekend, I thought it would be appropriate to recall the words of Joseph Stalin. Particularly his observation about elections and vote counting. I find it hilarious that the Greek authorities suspended polling heading into the election. I mean, that tells you everything you need to know. This is exactly what you would do if you were thinking about rigging the results. The worst thing that could happen would be to have Syriza soaring in the polls into the main event. If that was the case, it would be much more difficult to arrange a more “favorable” outcome. This way they can just claim “wow, unexpectedly the bankster parties won!” I’m not predicting that will be the outcome, I’m just saying the suspension of polling was a huge red flag. Here is the chart of the last polling results and some excellent commentary. Greece is extremely important as it is a key testing ground for TPTB. Everything that is happening in Greece will be attempted elsewhere if they can get away with it there. This gives the country a great deal of significance. That said, even if Greece is lost there is no way TPTB can win this thing. It is taking them more than two years to roll up tiny Greece. Even if they succeed, do you think Spain and Italy will go so easily. Then what about the U.S. with hundreds of millions of guns everywhere? There is no chance. The globalist agenda is already dead in the water; however, as we can see it doesn’t stop them from continuing to try.
What TPTB do not appreciate are the lessons we are all learning from Greece. We must learn many more lessons though. We must admit to ourselves that there are truly evil geniuses out there, and in most cases these characters have taken control of the power structure (corporations, politics and factions of the military in most of the nations we reside in). The necessary action is not for good people to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that such people do not exist. We must get inside their minds. We must acknowledge and accept their presence as well as their power and then work tirelessly to relieve them of it. As Irish statesmen, author and philosopher Edmund Burke so eloquently stated: “All that’s necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.” Let’s just do it already.
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I agree with you, but you are talking about theory in a perfect world, and I am stating the facts on the ground as they are now:
We're both discussing how to change the existing facts on the ground, so I don't see how suggestions can be described as anything other than being about 'theory in a perfect world' - that's what we're aiming for, surely?
You think the (dubious) benefits of excluding migrant workers is any less pie-in-the-sky than getting rid of government wealth distribution schemes?
This:
How is government "anarchy?"
Under the theory that we are currently living in a state of "anarco-tyranny"
Which I kind of believe. Interesting concept if you are not familiar with it.
What about the pencil?
The land owner who has the trees pays a tax
The logger who cuts the trees down pays a tax
The log trucker who hauls the trees to the mill pays a tax
The mill who mills the trees into lumber pays a tax
The trucker who transport the lumber from the mill to the manufacturer pays a tax
the manufacturer of pencils pays a tax.
The transporter of pencils from manufacturer to warehouse pays a tax.
The regional wholesale distrubutor of pencils pays a tax
The transporter from the wholesale warehouse to the retailer pays a tax.
the retailer pays a tax...
The consumer of pencils pay a tax...
No pencils for you!!
And the IRS inspector uses a pencil to work out how much more tax you 'owe'
And still the pencil costs about 5 cents? Do you put chains on your's?
I must submit that where i am at, there are two guns behind every blade of grass..
The day of reckoning for our traitor politicians is soon coming.
Remember, in Stalinist Russia, you were forced to go to Stalin speeches otherwise = gulag. Also, the FIRST one to stop clapping = gulag.
Like our glorious members of Congress giving Netenyahu standing ovations....boy, just imagine what would happen to your career if you sat out that one?
LOL, you got three down arrows. The Zio-fascists are out tonight!
We should also remember the words of my uncle Spiro. He said; " You can pick your nose,
and you can pick your friends, but you shouldn't pick your friend's nose.
Time for another rum and gingerbeer.
+1 for your Dark & Stormy
Mike, you left out mentioning the winner. If we know the voting is rigged, and we know who is doing the rigging, then we know who is going to win.
I was thinking more of uncle Stalins quote: 'One man one problem. No man no problem.'
I've read 'Mein Kampf' and there's notin in it. It's written on a puberal level. It's so uninterestingly written that I can't remember any quote out of it today.
btw Disneyland is a Pentagon science lab
Sources:
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=60615
http://www.securitypronews.com/news/securitynews/spn-45-20060901BiometricsComesToDisneyWorld.html
http://www.planetbiometrics.com/article-details/i/504/
Agreed - Mein Kampf is dull and very poorly written. But considering that the man was a genius and responsible for WW2, and between 10 - 38m deaths, it needs to be studied. I think it shows that Hitler had thought things thru, cared, meant well, and was very clever.
"The Prince" was an excellent read - an insight into Human nature. I recommend that to everyone
Should be MBA reading list
I'm reading Discourses on Livy. It's The Prince applied to republics, by Macchiavelli. Recommended.
How true. Any society must always be on guard, as these psychos, like a moth to a flame, will gravitate to Power and Corruption.
Barry X, the International Man of Mystery is such an individual. He must be stopped. What's important this time around is not whose pocket the candidate is in. It's about getting rid of a deviant, mentally deranged man who will seize any chance he has to maintain power at all cost.
The guy, I am told, Never misses a Drone Kill Mission. He even picks the targets from a list and watches the hi-tech snuff flicks over and over in his upstairs opium den....
I have a feeling that before its all said and done Barry will have made them all look like pikers when it comes to blood on their hands.
You start out with a solid point about watching out for dangerously irrational persons and ideas, then you decide your next move is to imitate the latter part of the problem.
Good article. I am beginning to wonder though if Stalin really was the bad guy we all believe. In this world of manufactured consent, I really do wonder. Perhaps he was a threat to the status qup?
Just posing the question. I know nothing of that history. Regardless, I am sure he was a lesser theat than the banking cartel and all their cronies.
I know nothing of that history.
Indeed you do not. Start reading The Gulag Archipelago.
I think you are missing my point. I could also read a lot about what a world-class monster Saddam was....but from what I saw he was just another crooked, self-serving mid east leader no worse (and in some cases better) than the rest of them. The media created the terrible monster as propaganda to support their cause.
History is written by the victor. So you should question history as it is written. I am not supporting Stalin, but suggesting that our commonly held belief that Stalin was the most terrible guy on earth may have been massaged a wee bit.
Mark, though it is true victors write the history, there can NEVER be any justifiable reasoning, other than EVIL, to do the things Stalin did.
If I went into your home, and did the things Stalin did to your family, simply because I perceived you as a threat....
As for your "most terrible guy on earth" thought, that assertion was never made. Stalin, etc., are held up because they remind man, specifically men like you, that EVIL does exist.
Yes, the history of man from the beginning has been littered with evil men doing evil things. And at some point the details of the evil become moot. Have you ever seen someone's head cut off with a chain saw? How about with a 6" knife? How about put into a pit and have hand grenades thrown in? How about being thrown into a metal crusher? How about burned in the street? At what point do the MEANS to the END matter to you?
You dont understand because you are one of those Disneyland people Mike is talking about. You've never had to worry. Everything is intellectual to you.
The cabal is filled with bad guys. But watch a video of Sadam killing people, or Stalin, or any of the others out there. These men took PLEASURE in acts that they PERSONALLY took part in.
You're the one missing Mike's point.
The point is until someone crucifies the ones you love, it's just a saunter through Disneyland.
No jusification for Saddam Khaddafi Bassar Kim Jil Ugghniginum etc eiather.
Not saying that we should have gone into any of these wars.... But if historry is just, no one will bemoan getting rid of these assholes.
They WILL bemoan hpw we did it, how msny people died, howmuch we spent and what happened afterwards...
But killing these assholes is a service to humanity... Should have just used snipers.
Junk tjis and you are a mass murderer.
Now watch for a -75 rating!!!
I am a mass murderer any way, if I junk you or not. So are you.
no they junk you because you are still enamored with the red/blue paradigm.
Also, these "bad men" that have been removed from power were not removed because they were bad men or did bad things to people but because they didn't follow their marching orders. Take an honest look at the actions of the American government (under both parties) and tell me that this institution has not been and is not being run by "bad men".
If you are honest and not a shill you cannot see the difference between Bush and Khadaffi or Obama and Sadam. Stalin and Mao (and Hitler to a slightly lesser extent) made those previously mentioned look like amateurs.
Wow, you are really really ignorant.
Your response assumes I am somehow a supporter of Stalin...or that he was a saint???? Like any good puppet you jump to conclusions and shout out the same old tired arguments based on facts you obtained from media.
And yes, the world is full of horrible people indeed...always has been, always will be. How do you feel about some of the wonderful things we are doing in the middle east? But I guess that is OK because the media calls them smart bombs and reported on by embedded reporters?
My point is, and what I love most about Zero Hedge articles and most comments, that you should take the official storyline with a grain of salt and a heavy dose of skepticism. The Stalin comment had nothing to do with Mike's article (which is as usual very good).
Please tell me you know the difference between starving 20 million people to death in your own country, and what's happening in the middle east with drones?
Ooooh! me! me!
The difference is quantitative, nor qualitative.
No, my response assumes you are gravely ignorant of extremely well documented history and believe the BS evil of "question everything".
SEEK TO UNDERSTAND.
As for what my brothers are doing/have done in the Middle East... it proves to me you picked the perfect avatar for yourself; http://youtu.be/bK-Dqj4fHmM
@2527334: Ponerology is an interdisciplinary study of evil. The term was first introduced by a Polish psychiatrist, Andrzej M. Lobaczewski. Here is his book 'Political Ponerology' in PDF format.
+1 for not being a muppet to the media.
However, what Stalin did WAS terrible, on a human rights level. Yes, we can point to other evil leaders and ask what about them. North Korea still has labor camps that are probably as bad the gulag labor camps. And if North Korea had oil, they'd have been invaded a long time ago. But none of that stops Stalin from having been a bad mofo.
the atrocities are documented for a moral reason: one does have, I believe, an ethical duty to be more than just simply dimly aware of them.
Millions. Dead.
read some books. it won't kill you to read about what killed them
Stalin killed more people than Hitler....so yeah he was a pretty bad dude.
Chicoms have 1st place record with Mao Ze-Dong.
How about per capita?
I think we need some kind of objective metric for evil, like how many killed per capita per annum.
And how many of them were terrrrrrists, obviously. If you have a feeling that they were all terrrrists, then of course, killing them (and their families, neighbors, and simulacrae) is sadly just one of the exigencies of spreading freeeeeedom, and probably not very evil at all.
I'd put Stalin and Zee Dong well ahead of Hitler. They killed their own people. Hitler killed the enemy, plus some Jews. But he didn't kill many Germanic people (directly).
What he did was more akin to traditional tribal warfare, kill people on the other team. It's still phsycotic, but on my scale the willingness to wipe out half of your own kind is up a couple notches.
and I would note: that regime is still in place. for now.
does anyone actually think the chicoms will be allowed to "succeed" in their attempt at totalitarian state capitalism? Seriously? Has no one seen Team America? Come on.
Mark123 - that is a very good question and needs to be asked. In the Stalin's case, I do think that he was as bad as they say. I read Solzenitzin's "Goolag Archipelago" and have a hard time not believing the guy. The only problem is that Solzenitzin was hailed as a hero by West when he critisized Stalin, but when he questioned Bush & Co. and the US system, he quickly faded into nothingness i.e. no coverage by media.
Good thinking though.
Then, disgusted with the soul-lessness of the USA, he went back to Russia and criticised the new 'free market economy' raping Russian citizens, and he got sidelined once again
The Exiled and other places published stories that he actually joined the Communist Party again before he died, this is disputed tho
But indeed, right now in Eastern Europe, most of the older folks who lived under Communism, would vote to have it back after having seen the 'free market' at work
This just goes to show you how much he was disgusted with the system here. Not that I wish I lived under Communists (god forbid), but I wish there was less coruption, lies, manipulation and mind control here.
Speaking from first-hand experience, there's no difference between the Communism and Capitalism of our age, it's all just one big fake farce to keep the plebs divided and fighting each other instead of the common evil.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!
Perhaps it's the same in principle. However, in day-to-day stuff, I bet it makes a hell of a difference.
It was difficult to get D'addario slinkys under Stalin. That gives you some idea how bad it was, right there.
@2527339: "Most" is certainly not the case in Poland where 'old timers' vote overwhelmingly for Christian Democrats' Law and Justice Party (PiS).
People like Solzhenitsyn don't know how to stop, and that is why they never win.
You cannot fight the modern State, especially the modern security State. You cannot go down the road of protesting every prison, every reservation, every settlement, every dead village. You *should*, but that is the point: you will go mad. It is an evil world. Do good, but stay sane.
If you comply you'll go insane. If you try to resist you'll go insane. If you just observe and do nothing, you'll go insane. Actually, we have to be a bit insane to take in what's happening around us and not go insane.
agree. a bit insane is, sadly, required in these times. But. Not too insane. I think I have only smashed one coffee cup last 6 months, so I'm on a total mellow alpha, personally. I'm prolly in denial.
QED http://youtu.be/fLrpBLDWyCI
Since you ask, directly and indirectly he had killed tens of millions of Ukrainians, Russians, etc. (see the Black Book of Communism). Yes Virginia he was a bad guy. Mao killed more, but percentage wise Stalin is king (with Cambodia’s Pol Pot holding the relative title). Hitler was a piker.
if you're doing head counts for genocide then the 'winner' is Govt environmentalism
the worldwide ban by the UN, US EPA etc, on the spraying of wonder pesticide DDT has resulted in 60-100 million preventable deaths from Maleria
Bill Gates and Hilary Clintons provision of mosquito nets to the 3rd World hasn't worked and won't work
Bring Back DDT and jail (for life) the environmentalists and Govt goons for genocide
Malaria is a nasty killer. The #1 killer in Kenya, and other parts of Africa.
Yeah, and let's blame those damn hippies for all the starving people because they resist turning Monsanto and their terminator seeds on the planet. We could generate twice the empty calories while only putting most of the food supply at risk.
You got some fucked up logic mate.
And in those same countries, don't people routinely have like 10 kids even though they can't produce enough food for themselves? Dying of malaria might be better than starving to death. It's not that hard to get rid of stagnant water especially when almost no one works in the first place.
I don't know about Stalin, but I have also started questioning a lot of "history." It is hard to believe anyone after seeing how thoroughly the media manipulates every story it bothers to report on. The best a person can do is vary sources and try to put the pieces together as best they can. Everyone has an agenda.
Try Nesta Webster's "Revolution" for some truly in depth research. (Also her "Secret Societies and Subversive Movements") Youu can usually find it in free pdf form on the web.
Also, great historians to read are: Eustace Mullins, Douglas Reed, and Deann Spignola. Oh...almost forgot Dr. John Coleman. What a researcher he is! Try his book on the Tavistock Institute, and then you will begin to get a handle of the magnitude to which we have been deceived. Read everything by Coleman you can. He once read 37,000 pages of the Congressional Records and Annals to study the true intentions of our Constitution!
FDR and Churchill both thought Uncle Joe was a good old boy that they could really work with, just like our later leaders thought about Saddam, Manuel Noriega and several dictators in Central America, until they couldn't. Then they became threats to our freedom. Maybe they just wanted a bigger cut?
Geez bobnoxy! Do you swallow all the propaganda that the establishment media throws at you!?
He was, in WWII. Beat Hitler and made the Japs surrender.
Not true. Churchill figured it out before the end of the war.
Likewise, our side never thought Saddam, Noriega, etc. were good old boys. Politician's are simply politicians; they'll sleep and drink with whomever they have to to get where they want to go.
Doing things for reasons informed by morality have no place or role in power politics. When moral high ground is claimed, it is simply being used as a convenient device, a cloak of legitimacy, by the underlying amoral politician.
Nietszche understood all this.
"I am sure he was a lesser theat than the banking cartel and all their cronies."
Oh you mean the guys who bankrolled the Bolsheviks and subsequently the Soviet Union for its entire existence?
Dreams From my Father & Audacity of Hope will be talked about in the same venue as Mein Kampf by future historians.
We din do no writn in da choom wagon. Wassa Mein Kampf boss?
Ramble, damn!
Heh, this morning I remembered I had both those books lying around (given to me as a gift, never even cracked the cover of either one). Promptly tossed them in the garbage where they can harm no one ever again.
Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. - Isaac Asimov.
<salute> Asimov
+1
Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain.
Anti-intellectualism by America's foremost intellectual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocPTdtXEKD8
Pretty much explains everything.
Ponerology, no more no less.
Great piece, but I disagree with one thing.
re "I think that most of the population of the United States (aka Disneyland) has been duped into thinking that somehow the Hitler or Stalin personalities of the world no longer exist!"
Well that is the secular perspective explanation.
Here's the truth. Sometime before Vatican II, the "west", Western Judao-Christian Civilization, began to buy into the Tupperware mentality. Basically religion is fake and science will explain everything. Vatican II marked a critical moment in the transformation of the mind, spirit and culture of the west; especially Europe, South America & the US. It was important because the leadership of the largest religious group in the west virtually stopped speaking about evil and turned its focus almost solely on "brotherly love" and embraced a "social" focus. Social btw = man, not spirit, soul, good/evil. With the primary defender of the existence of evil going silent, the concept began to fade behind ... a Disneyland view of the world and Faith. It's not by mistake that the Catholic Mass looks more like a celebration at Disneyland than a bloodless ceremony in remembrance of a crucifixion.
So people really werent duped into thinking personalities like Hitler/Stalin do not exist. People simply started believing EVIL does not existed. Once that began, Satan went to work on the central thread that connects all of man, language. In the US it manifest itself as PC speak.
Now I know some may not like words like "satan" or mention of religion. So be it. Replace satan with whatever you want that expresses the epitome of the greatest bad you can conceive. Likewise replace religion with... OPINION or ... THOUGHTS. The end is almost the same.
Burke had it almost right, all's it takes is for evil to win is for men to believe they know what's best, what is good and what is not. With that, evil ceases to exist. With that, all men become gods. With that, people like Hitler and Stalin become mere intellectual memories encountered on a person's saunter through Disneyland.
I dont think it's by mistake that Greece, the cradle of the enlightenment, is ground zero and archetype of a political compact founded upon Humanist idols and beliefs of man.
We are watching the history between WWI & WWII rhyme.
AMDG
Centurion9.41
Thanks for the comment, well said.
Wow, with this crowd, that took cojones. ;)
TPTB, The Vatican, The Rothchilds, The Rockefellers, The House of Morgan, The Illuminati, The Bildaburgers, The CFR, The Trilatteral Commission, The Masons, The Free Masons, The Luciferians, The...
Droolzzzzzzz.... Conspiratorialist overload..... Tin hat failing...... Does not compute.....
You morons are a broken record. You live in mommies basement and just got done reading Shadows of Power. I liked The Captians and the King BUT IT WAS FICTION. Youve never met a person worth more then tree-fiddy and if you did you would think they were the Lochness Monster.. You believe in UFOs too?
Go away simpleton.
"Youve never met a person worth more then tree-fiddy and if you did you would think they were the Lochness Monster."
Is it your assumption that no one with a net worth of less than "tree fiddy" is a worthwhile human being?
PS... you've clearly been very poorly educated. It's not the names or the men, it's about the principles and ideas they espouse.
That 60s 'Vatican II' of the Catholic church indeed seems strange to an outside observer -
They threw away and basically banned the really attractive parts of Roman Catholic life - all those pretty prayers and music in Latin, the nice theatrical church services -
And they kept all the parts of Catholicism which seem stupid even to many Catholics, like saying no one should use a condom or birth control, that clergy prayer-leaders should not get married, and the pope is still the emperor who runs the church world in a one-man show
But there are still some Catholics, like Hollywood actor Mel Gibson I think is one of them, who think the last several popes are not legitimately elected because they don't believe the traditions ... so some say that the papal chair has been empty since the 1950s ...
In Spanish, the word for "Pope" (Papa) is the same as the word for "potato" (a dirty, lumpy thing found hidden in the ground, and which becomes poisonous when exposed to the light).
Coincidence, or not?
Evil has many forms, but is always born of the ego. As for your thoughts, they are based on such deep misunderstandings as to sound like a table of EU bankers in Brussels who fancying themselves ... intelligent.
I'm pretty sure being born with fat ankles, is actually "the epitome of the greatest bad you can conceive," so I'm gonna beg out of this god-talk I think. I'm not catching your metric here.
Evil exists (get used to it)
..but Govt gives them a platform and indeed a petra dish to grow and create the most social damage
Govt is the problem
Of course gov. is the problem, it's filled with men.
And western gov. got worse when they embraced all the Liberation Theology BS. In the US the Jesuits, via Georgetown, played a major role in this perversion of both our US Consitutional Republic and the Catholic Faith.
The problem has now progressed and gotten worse under Progressivism; they make the final Orwellian step and in everything but name put on the cloaks of a religion of tyrants. It's only in the last 3 years have the traditional forms of Christian religon figured it out.
TPTB ~ Progressivism....
"People simply started believing EVIL does not existed."
2000 years ago: "people simply started believing EVIL exists"
Such as Jesus Christ, his religion, and his Church? Or are we still pretending the Xtians aren't just as humanist as the rest of the western world, that they aren't men with fallible beliefs? LOL
Gee it's not like they're the same thing, so the identity property would apply.
"Beyond Good and Evil"
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4363
Read it if you dare.
Look sport. You clearly have poor reading comprehension and context skills. And are wanting in laying out your thoughts in an understandable format.
Take another shot and if I see it I'll reply.
Wow.
This site gets better everyday.
Are you refering to the church that is one giant child sex ring? I would hardly accept their moral authority over anything. Maybe we need an inquisition to improve morals around the globe. Burn a few of the evil scientists who expose the lies of the big bang, quantum physics and other such evils.
Yes, I know we need only accept the Catholic faith and we will all be so much better off. I wish you good luck trying to impose it on me.
Ahhh, not surprised. Figured there would be those seeking to twist what I said into something not said. Did you happen to fail reading comprehension Jackie? My comments in fact point to the failure of the priests in the Catholic Church playing a key role in spreading the error of evil not existing.
Regardless... priests, neither the good ones or evil ones, make "the Church"; such thinking is Protestant. The Church is the Faith, the teachings.
However since your self-idolatry seems to demand that only perfection is worthy of presenting to you truth... well like Christ telling the crowd following Him that they must eat of his flesh and drink of his blood, and His letting them walk away without a "wait, come back, you misunderstood me!".... I'll let you saunter off with your idols.
I was raised Catholic. My mom always wanted one of her sons to become a priest. She soon found out that none of her sons had an affinity for young boys, hence she would have to opt for nunhood from one of my four sisters.
Tuco
Sedevacantism, fuck yeah!
what is TPTB?
Got Google or something like that?
The Powers That Be. Funny that you get dumped for asking a basic question as if everyone in the world walks around using ZH jargon.
The Powers That Be
If that's not a rhetorical question, it stands for The Powers That Be...
The Powers That Be
Our Slave masters
Bankers
Politicians
Corporate CEOs
IRS agents
.........the list goes on.
Those are the big guns. How about your local zoning board of appeals, various town permitting departments, police chief, building inspector, and so on. They wield a ton of power too.
The 5th Bugaloo
actually, there are no powers that be; there only are the powers that were. that's the issue.
The power that be.
Its tough being new, so pay attention.
<moved>
"as we can see it doesn’t stop them from continuing to try"
Now see.........that's the whole fucking problem. These assholes have ALL the wealth and can continue this campaign from one generation to the next. Even if they do get Greece rolled up we are fucked because of the policies they have to enact to get what they want are absolutely disastrous to the rest of us. That's why I support "collapse now". Stick a gun up their fucking ass while it's still possible.
There are a great many of these out there. Stalin. Mao. Pol Pot. And then there are all the garden-variety psychopaths who never became dictators but would have taken the job. It would be a lot of reading and would slice through a very wide and hellish valley of advanced human psychosis.
Worse, these dictators were highly charismatic people. Like it or not people willingly followed them and lent them power. If every thinking person went on to study their works again many more would get right back in line to follow whoever was willing to be the modern standard bearer for the destroyers of the past.
Sorry, but the works of these blood-thirsty madmen should be buried and lost forever. A world frequently overrun with mini-Stalins and mini-Maos would quickly become unfit for human occupancy.
There is no point in burning or banning books. Madness will always find it's way out, one way or another. Besides, Mein Kampf is a less dangerous read for some potential psycho-killer than, say, Thus Spoke Zaratustra, or for that matter, most of Nietzsche's works (after all, arguably it was him who inspired the philosophy of the Third Reich).
Reading books written by psychopaths just to be able to grasp their worldview is a tedious work. I agree with your point that many will even be misled by the thoughts of those charismatic minds and will get back in line to pick up where the last dictator has left off. Therefore it is better to look into the mind of a psycopath from a sane person's perspective. My personal recommendation is Erich Fromm's "The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness" as the most complete and profound psychological study of evil in modern history.
Not sure I agree about Nietszche and the Third Reich although I agree you can support some Nazi principles with some highly select passages. He would have been appalled to read that.
One thing about the strongman Stalin, if it was not for his ability to "motivate" his troops, Russians would be speaking German today.
There is somethign inspirational in moving forward when your Comrade behind you has a gun pointed at the back of your head.
If I recall correctly Stalin killed more Russians -- and more indiscriminately -- than the Germans ever did.
In constrast George Washington did not, as far as I can tell from history, kill any of his own men nor their familes nor did he destroy their towns.
Great leaders are great for a reason. They motivate from no more resource than the contents of their own souls, not the chambers of a pistol. They more often lead from the front of the battle, not the back. They do not hide in a bunker fearing their own troups but stand with them, shoulder to shoulder, ready to receive whatever cut the scythe of death delivers.
They build nations on faith when no one else can believe. They do not destroy them out of screaming, blood-drenched paranoia.
Stalin was clearly insane. But he was violently insane at a time when violence ran all over the world, and that made him a historic person. However he is not a model, nor did he have even one saving grace, and the sooner history forgets his name and deeds the sooner the entire human race will be healed of a dire and despicable chapter of history.
George Washington is regarded as an early tyrant by some libertarians in America, some stories about this on the Lew Rockwell site
He was out there hanging people (mostly slow strangulation in those days), and when he took over the Continental Army he was so brutal he wanted to increase floggings of troops from 40 to 500 lashes - enough to kill some men - they had to over-rule him he was such a dictatorial nut, as bad as Captain Bligh on the Bounty
And then he was out repressing grass-roots rebellions of Americans once the 'Revolution' was over
Aren't many real heroes out there
Most people are unaware of the Ukranian genocide which was larger than the Holocaust..
and evidently, the socialist progressive press hasn't changed much in eighty years.
http://faminegenocide.com/resources/unknown.html
I think we should erect some Ukrainian Holocaust museums all over the world...and remind people of this atrocity everyday, all the time.
It really pisses me off that this and other holocausts are all but forgotten beneath the shadow of the "most important" one.
Suppose this -> http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard171.html < is what you are talking about....
So if your kid calls you a tyrant, you are a tyrant?
The fact is GW did what was needed to turn a group of pissed off men into an Army. There's a reason the "chain of command" is so strongly supported in the military, regardless of the justice of the individual event/person. It has to do with the evils of war and survival.
Just because Rothbard, a Jewish economist, who never served in the military, nor his family, says GW was a tyrant does not make it so.
Consider some of Rothbard's other opinions...
- criticized the "degeneration" of jazz and popular song into bebop and rock music
- praised Woody Allen's wit
- disliked Star Wars, "such a silly, cartoony, comic-strip movie that no one can possibly take it seriously,"
- 2001: A Space Odyssey, a "pretentious, mystical, boring, plotless piece of claptrap," calling for a return to science fiction films like It Came from Outer Space and "the incomparable Invasion of the Body Snatchers."
my point simpley being, that if Russia (USSR) had a neville chamberlain then things would have ended differently in Russia which means that the entire outcome of the war would have been different. i am not defending the guy, just saying when you are dealing with a lunatic like hitler, it pays to have a psycho taking him on and not a weak leader.
In view of the upcoming Greek election I thought I would ask both Linux and Windows, in their command-line interfaces, what they thought about a 'Grexit'.
Linux was a tad blan with:
Windows a bit more informative with:
Does either Greek or German OS's give a more detailed answer?
Grexit: command not found
Oh I don't know, that seemed pretty straight forward to me.
It suggests there will be anarchy as a result.
OS X and FreeBSD don't know either..
Crazy at Bernstein. Crazier now?
"Greece is extremely important as it is a key testing ground for TPTB. Everything that is happening in Greece will be attempted elsewhere if they can get away with it there. "
Flawed premise. Get away with what? Clearly and manifestly collapsing a ponzi so that.... what? Who benefits?
The sad thing is, this is just what systemic rot looks like. No one is "doing" any of this. That is what is frightening. It is a headless monster, zombified.
ie., a system in search of its own reason, ie, its own brains. And it thinks brains is something you eat. I do not know how to kill zombies, I just know what they do and how they operate, and that is what we got: a zombie virus spreading throughout the global socius.
Or how about this one. There is no monster under the bed or in the closet; it's just that the house is old and built wrong, and it is falling apart and that is what is making the noises you think you are hearing. It's just the sound of things falling apart, dude.
Mein Kampf is readily available if you want to read it. So we are supposed to take advice from a guy that clearly states that he was too lazy to read a book since he was a kid? Great I'll follow your advice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9f1TYyvEx8
I found that honesty refreshing and made his writing more powerful.
Tuco
Yeah, how long does that take - 3 hours?
"Any man who has once proclaimed violence as his method is inevitably forced to take the lie as his principle."
Alexander Solzenitsin
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
"Tree of liberty needs to be watered with blood" - Jefferson , maybe Stalin read that.
this site -- or rather some of you posters -- kick ass. thnx for great quote.
"The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic." - Josef Stalin
To better understand the twisted mentality of the tyrant, also consider these words of wisdom:
One many with a gun can control a hundred without one. - Lenin
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun - Mao
Give me control over a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws. - M. A. Rothschild
Only one of these men's empire still remains as a scourge on the face of humanity.
History has shown that you cannot reason or bargain with tyrants. They must be executed with the same ruthlessness as they treat others. For this reason, Jefferson reminded us that the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and of tyrants.
Stalin was the model for ; Mr. Potato Head.
I think it's not so much being duped as it is that people don't recognize evil. Evil characters have been made bigger than life, so people expect to see bigger than life evil, when in reality evil doesn't look that way. Evil comes packaged as a seductive set of ideas which sound noble but are ultimately self serving. Hitler did not gain power by saying he was going to exterminate 6 million jews, he came to power by telling the masses they they had been treated as sheeple and betrayed by TPTB. He recognized the appeal of the socialist agenda and gave voice to the idea of taking down the rich and giving their money to the people.
The thing is, to do that you have to take away the rights of people to their own property. Once you've invested that kind of power in government, it is a short trip to investing it with the power to take away people's right to live. Much of the rehtoric we hear today is the same rehtoric spouted by evil throughtout history. It is not about progress towards more power to the individual, but about going back to all poweful governments with absolute power over people. Of course, to convince people all you have to do is sell them the idea that that power will only be used to able to make life "fair."
Kudos to you +1. GernB
You got the the premise of my post!
"people expect to see bigger than life evil, when in reality evil doesn't look that way. Evil comes packaged as a seductive set of ideas which sound noble but are ultimately self serving"
No. Evil comes in both forms. And others.
evil smacks one in the face, more, smacks close persons in the gut. repeat-and this becomes more a reason for , let's say, Egypt's discontent. I postulate that this leads to certain kinetic action.
And, you Sir are correct in the Locke/Mill fundamentals. Still a differentiator between US and UK, let alone la belle France or anything else.
dang
- Ned
Whatever Hitler did, Stalin and Lenin topped by far. Just sayin'....
"A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery. It cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another."
Mao Tse Tung said.
AKA. submission or death. fuu
Keep reading fuu, you're doing a great job!
In that case, I'm glad the coming MASS ARRESTS in the U.S. are going to be a legal action and not a revolution.
Mike, since you're on to quoting Stalin today I suspect one more is in order.
The Pope? How divisions has he got? - Joseph Stalin
When it comes down to it the TPTB don't have any. TPTB are a hollow, rotted, feted, incestuous shit soup sandwich incapable of doing anything for themselves, hence all the effort at herding society along. Now that's failing in an evermore spectacular fashion.
Next up is Hitler and flooding the subways.....
Very well written article.
I'm prepared. My teachers taught me how to duck and cover when I was in grade school.
Other than that I'll do it. What am I susposed to do. I voted for Ron Paul in the California primary. I think the next day he quit. So what now? I wanna do it.
Well said! Daniel Quinn offers a suggestion (in Ishmeal) and it is to remove yourself from the system as far as possible. The problem is that you and I as individuals are nothing, but if enough of us do it, we might start a snowball. If we don't (which I'm afraid will happen) then we deserve whatever is coming.
New Democracy barely wins parliament. Futures gap and crap because they can't form a government. Thus spake Bernakadomus.
New Democracy barely wins parliament. Futures gap and crap because they can't form a government. Thus spake Bernakadomus.
Mongol General: Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.
incorrect. compound interest.
Compound Interest. The pro/forma rate is (6.7 years). 1999 stats. 6.78% on one dollar doubles every 6.7 years.
Yes, no acting needed by Arnold in that role, the nazi prick!
At the height of the British Empire, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle is quoted as saying, "London, that great cesspool into which all the loungers and idlers of the Empire are irresistibly drained". And so it seems empires have a tendency to attract the floating shits of humanity wherever it forms. The greenback empire is no different.
Why? Look around you. There are millions of people so devoid of any personal achievements and merit that they hanker to live their lives vicariously through the lives of celebrity, often attaching themselves to the personality cults of politicians and associated jingoists who offer opportunities to inflict cruelty, death, and hate on the third world to feel superior in their pathetic little lives. That's Vox Populi. Is it any wonder that the slightly smarter apes among us exploit that for their own ends? Call them sociopaths, psychopaths, and evil Machiavellians, but what they represent is the willingness of the masses to do the filthiest, horrible, inhuman acts on others so they can feel good about themselves, good about living in the "Greatest country in the world", and all the other stupid, deluded propagandist bullshit we hear every single day.
I'm probably preaching to the converted on ZH, but it does not take a genius to figure out how the economic, social, and political world really functions. It does not take a genius to notice the blantant lies and omissions in the msm when they report on issues that matter. It does not take a genius to notice that when it comes to your empire building, all the usual moral rules are suspended and we are encouraged to applaud assaults, murders, and thefts done in our name. Why? Because apparently, we are better than "Them", whoever "they" are, whatever "they" are, even though "they" seem to change with the Seasons.
Rightly or wrongly, I too often assign blame on TPTB, the clever evil bastards born out of excess and privilege who rule the world. The neo-conservative christians and zionists and their morally defunct relativism, and their counterparts in the political spectrum. But you know there are those who have evolved beyond the thumbless ape stage, those of us who constantly remind others to be better human beings, to do to others as you would have them do to you, to be fair, to be just, to be good. I don't know how many there are, but I have noticed that there are more of you out there than before, and as long as good people stand together, I dare say yet more will be created until the bell curve of humanity rests where we can justly be proud to be called human. Perhaps then we will finally have the leaders we deserve.
Meh, just (ranting) thinking out loud in these stressful times. Good article from Mike Krieger.
Where is that { J.R.} Gentleman? He's obviously (MIA).
Perhaps we should E.Mail him?
Beautiflly put FTSE!
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Speaking of celebrity, is there really much difference between Tiger Woods and Barack Obama, other than their scorecards and the countries they were born in?
Very well put, FTSE. This is exactly how I feel too... I think WE the people need to do something soon, and it doesn't need to be through violence. We just need to be strategic. For instance, what better way of disrupting the FED and other bankster organizations than finding a way of destroying their money-printing presses? If we want to kill the beast, we need to cut its head. Without printing presses, the beast ceases to breathe. Anyway, that's my opinion for what it's worth. In any event, it's probably worth more than all that fake money that's being printed each day to inflate the bubble ad nauseam... Does my idea make any sense? If so, how does one go about destroying those damn presses before our money turns to toilet paper?