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The Ministry Of Propaganda Declares Ron Paul "Unelectable"

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Submitted by Charles Hugh Smith from Of Two Minds

The Ministry Of Propaganda Declares Ron Paul "Unelectable"

The Ministry of Propaganda has chosen to suppress the only dangerous-to-the-Power Elites candidate by declaring him "unelectable."

The Status Quo's Ministry of Propaganda has a single political task for 2012: eliminate the sole threat to the Status Quo (Ron Paul) from the running, leaving voters with a "choice" of clueless stooges for the Power Elite.

That roster includes President Obama and the daytime-TV/soap-opera field of Republicrat contenders.

The Ministry of Propaganda has settled on a ludicrous strategy to eliminate Ron Paul: declare Paul "unelectable."

As with all propaganda, the basic idea is that if it is repeated often enough on officially sanctioned stages, it will eventually be accepted as "true."

Our Christmas-New Year's week of family visits took us to homes where the television is on all the time, and as a result I was exposed to the Ministry of Propaganda's preferred media, TV "news." Regardless of the channel or program, the message was the same: "The presidential race will between Obama and either Romney or Gingrich."

Despite the polls that find Paul and Romney with equal levels of support in Iowa, Romney has been declared the front-runner and Paul written off as "unelectable."

In other words, the voters don't even need to check in; the Ministry of Propaganda's army of toadies, lackeys and media apparatchiks have their marching orders: repeat that Ron Paul is unelectable at every opportunity, either explicitly or implicitly via leaving him off the list of "frontrunners."

The Ministry of Propaganda's campaign is easily revealed by two simple thought experiments. How would the corporate media characterize Newt Gingrich's "electability" if he was running neck-and-neck with Romney? Answer: the media toadies would be falling over each other to declare Gingrich "electable."

Now repeat the experiment with Rick Santorum or Michelle Bachmann. The answer is the same: since these candidates are on the list of Power-Elites approved stooges, a showing equal to Ron Paul's would instantly win them veritable tsunamis of media coverage, all focused on their eminent "electability."

Here is the second thought experiment: does anyone seriously think any of the Republicrat candidates are even remotely qualified to deal with the crises brewing on the horizon? What exactly makes them "electable"?

Let's consider them one at a time, scrubbed of spin, PR and propaganda:

Mitt Romney: the perfect player for a remake of "The Stepford Wives" entitled "The Stepford Politicos." Romney is the personification of the telegenic, wealthy empty suit, devoid of any ideas beyond retreads of Status Quo tweaks that leave the Power Elite--of which he is a member--safely in charge.

Romney's "electability" rests on the hopes that the hard drives from his time as governor stay safely erased and that zombified voters conclude that having a family and membership in a church are sufficient qualifications for President.

His handlers have carefully studied the political satire The Candidate and have not yet formulated an answer to the question, "What do we do now?" should the wealthy pawn of the Power Elite improbably win the presidency.

Michelle Bachmann: Imagine her wearing a witch's hat, it isn't hard to do; Bachmann is the ideal Wicked Witch of the West, but without the charisma. She does have a host of frightful winged monkeys, though--her handlers.

Newt Gingrich: Gingrich has a number of redeeming characteristics, starting with his famously unsavory "baggage" that reveals an appealingly flawed core. He is also the only Republicrat candidate that wouldn't bore you to despair within a few minutes, i.e. he actually strays from the canned scripts approved by the Ministry of Propaganda. Third, on occasion he actually reveals glimmers of awareness that the next 10 years will not be like the previous decade, and that America is at a critical crossroads.

Unfortunately, his canned ideology-as-"solution" ideas expired a decade ago and he has no coherent vision of a future that isn't just a slightly modified version of the Power-Elite dominated one that is now hurtling toward instability.

He has shown a remarkable ability, however, to hide his horns and forked tail.

Rick Perry: Another telegenic empty suit who hoped that having a family and membership in a church qualified him for the presidency.

Rick Santorum: Rick's ruthlessness has its charm, starting with his long and painful campaign to establish a simulacrum of intellectual "seriousness." Like all the other stooges, his version of "the vision thing" is a tepid edit of the Status Quo. Like all the stooges other than the refreshingly flawed Gingrich, he hopes membership in a church qualifies him for the presidency.

What all the candidates but Ron Paul dare not acknowledge because it isn't on the approved Ministry of Propaganda script is that the Status Quo is heading off a cliff at the direct behest of the nation's Power Elite. The only candidate that has "the vision thing" and that clearly enunciates exactly how the Power Elite's policies have led the nation off a cliff of insolvency and Imperial hubris is Ron Paul.

For this sin against the Status Quo and its Power Elite, Paul has been excommunicated, and the (pardon my language) smarmy army of corporate media whores cannot declare him "unelectable" often enough.

That is proof that he is highly electable, for otherwise the Ministry of Propaganda wouldn't be running a campaign of such transparent desperation.


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Tue, 01/03/2012 - 13:59 | 2029345 Jayda1850
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Ron Paul 2012 Bitchez!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:05 | 2029379 slaughterer
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THE surprise of 2012 is that, despite all media mongoose spin, Ron Paul WILL WIN--by a slim amount, and to the chagrin of Fed/TBTF.  

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:13 | 2029419 lolmao500
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Yeah and they will off him. And then the shit hits the fan.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:23 | 2029456 nope-1004
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The ministry if propaganda is missing one key aspect:  The internet and the power that it has bringing alternative news onto everyones lap whenever they choose.

My kids don't even watch the news, they get it all via the net.  And I can tell you that the info that comes to them is not from

Elections this year will be surprising.  The unemployed and underemployed need work and want this pig fixed.  Ron Paul is not "unelectable" when you have zero hope left in Osama and the other old boyz club.  Ron Paul will have a huge impact this year.


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:27 | 2029484 caconhma
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Ron Paul cannot ignore the electability issue.

He must address it head-on in his commercials by reminding that R. Reagan was also called "unelectable".


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:32 | 2029512 trav7777
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he should just say that "unelectability means they don't want you to vote for me."

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:38 | 2029550 kaiserhoff
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The Jew Yawk media loves Romney, because he is a Dim in drag, and another whore to Israel. 

They have been caught on this, and it will continue to fry their asses for years to come.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:45 | 2029573 Buckaroo Banzai
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“Chicago radio is reporting that the ballot counting for the Iowa Caucus will be conducted in Springfield, Illinois. This is a disaster for honest government and a sign that the political establishment is intent on throwing the Iowa Republican Caucus to Mitt Romney.” ILLINOIS IS THE STATE WHERE THE LAST 4 GOVERNORS ARE IN JAIL, SENATOR OBAMA IS FROM AND OBAMA’ FORMER STAFF RHAM EMANUEL IS NOW MAYOR OF CHICAGO !!!

Iowa GOP moving vote-count to 'undisclosed location': to prevent a Ron Paul victory.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:48 | 2029588 whstlblwr
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Campaign says they're on top of it and confident election will be fair. Ron Paul should start off speech and address his bumbling style at every rally. Why WHO interview good, he acknowledged his poor speaking style, but message more important than messenger.

How many times did we hear that Hillary will win, that black man can't win in America. MSM is old news.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:59 | 2029643 Buckaroo Banzai
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I don't remember that at all. Even the liberal media doesn't like Hillary much, everyone agrees she's awful. Frankly I seem to remember the media being in the tank for Obama right from the get-go. After Obama spoke at the 2004 convention, you had to step back from the TV and handle the newspaper with rubber gloves, otherwise you'd get liberal media jism all over you.


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:06 | 2029707 whstlblwr
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No, wife volunteered for Obama, and she complained about media bias against him, that he was unelectable.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:13 | 2029764 JW n FL
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Ron Paul is the Grass Roots..

Purposefully (by the media) made to seem.. to be the ONLY! Hope for “We the People” AGAINST! The onslaught by the Rich!


1. Austerity, is nothing more than another Tax Break for the Rich. It doesn’t matter if the Republicans and Democrats CONSPIRE! To shut down Government because of an imaginary Debt Ceiling or Ron Paul’s idea’s. There is no difference because the end result is the same.

2. These Rich people who have sold the wanna be rich the idea that Starving one of the most well armed group of citizens in the World is a GREAT Idea! A Hellava Way to be able to save Tax Dollars! History is full of stories about Hungry Armed People

Now telling yourselves LIES! About how this is different than that.. because it makes YOU FEEL GOOD! Is what you have been taught to do.. by the 5th Ave. Media Machine since you were very young!


Austerity will make people hungry and thusly giver everyone the right to go Zombie Hunting! Right?

It doesn’t matter how the people are made hungry or how the language from one document to another varies! The end result is Hunger.


Ron Paul is a WET! DREAM!! COME!!! TRUE!!!! FOR THE RICH!

Why? Because the Taxes for the Rich will NEVER! Be Raised! (the Democrats Proved that already)

And the belt tightening / austerity will flow downhill like shit always does! Thusly hungry poor people with nothing to lose and the internet to find just enough erroneous information to make them dangerous! Like Blaming the Jews for doing the WASP’s bidding / dirty work and thusly being vilified!


Don’t get me wrong, anyone to blame should be hung for treason.. but dumb rednecks are not going to be able to tell the difference between Bernie Sanders (Jew) Independent and Joe Bidden ( ) thusly Good People get Blamed for what a Few Bad People have been set up to look bad for.. 400,000 Jewish Protesters! Who are trying to fight the Zionists! ( )


Jim-Bob in da woods is not going to give a rats ass about the difference.. and MOST! Of the information Provided by Google (Zionist owned) is that Jews (JOO’s) are BAD!

America is being Programmed to Hate America.. and when I say America I mean the majority of un-educated, ignorant Citizens of America are being Programmed (day and Night by Corporate Owned Media) to hate other segments and themselves. Good for Nothing! Government Assistance Receiving!! Sub 800 Credit Score Having!!! Wastes of Energy.


Once Iran is under control and the Sweet Lite Crude Supply is as stabilized as it can be.. there will be no use for all this extra stupid. The extra stupid will have played its part and it will be time to trim the fat. There is more Energy Conservation in getting rid of American’s and other 3rd World Un-Educated Trash than there is in Matching Fund Grid Scale Green Tech.. too be sure!


But once again! All of these facts don’t make anyone feel good!

We want to be right!

We want someone else to come in and save the day.. so we can watch dancing with the stars or post here on zerohedge about how smart we are.. as compared to the sheep!


America has a population explosion going on.. America is already a 3rd World Country for the Majority of Americans! I am guessing at least some of you have read enough to understand what the plans are for 3rd World, Population Explosion, Energy Consumers are.


Let the Ignorant Poor kill each other off! That will get rid of most of the Gene Pool that is tough enough to fight! And leave the more docile, easily controlled to manage!


The Rich will step in after the Poor kill enough of the Poor! Take their guns from them.. for their own protection.. saving them from themselves in the future! Thusly being the Saviors! Doing God’s Work! Protecting the sheep from the sheep in wolves clothing that was amongst them!


FEMA Camps maybe for the trouble makers after the Great American Kill Off! They wont have guns to protect themselves.. so off to the Camps!


Thank God for Wall Street Doing God’s Work..

Privatizing Prisons!

Privatizing the Army!


Thank God for Washington DC passing Laws that make all of this Legal! You Terrorists are worth almost $100,000 dollars a Year to House! PLUS!! The Free Labor that You Terrorists will be providing! No Judge! No Jury!! And Slaves! Lifetime Sentences without the Cost of a Trail!


And for all of you that won’t work! Well let’s see how tuff you are when they water board your wife or kids! You Terrorists will work! One way or another!


And for all of you thinking the Liberal Democrats were going to save the Country! With ALL THAT HOPE AND CHANGE!! Surprise!! LULZ!


AND!! Just for shits and giggles.. lets say Ron Paul.. does MAN! UP!! And do the right thing for the People of America.


JFK came from a Billionaire Family back in then.. a Good Family, with all the right friends and ties.. and the Secret Service stood down, still! ( )


But for some reason.. if Ron Paul could get around the Votes of ALL the Congress / Senate Lobby Whores! And do the right thing.. that he would Survive the Secret Service Standing Down?


You really think he would be alive for any real amount of time? Or long enough to cause any real damage to the system?


The top 0.01% of America provide 80% of the Lobby Dollars for Washington DC. Like George Carlin said, they long ago bought and paid for everything and everyone.. and they OWN YOU!

Rob Paul can NOT! Beat Congress and the Senate.

Ron Paul wants AUSTERITY!

And if Ron Paul did for some reason start to do the right thing? Or! If Rob Paul was Helping the Majority of Americans.. the Working Class and the Poor! Ron Paul would have his brains blown out! Just Like Kennedy, Martin Luther, Malcolm X...




Now go ignore the facts and spew your feelings of grandeur’ all over each other.. until you forget about all the ugly facts I just reminded you of.. cause I have not said anything that MOST! Of you here don’t already know! Providing Hope to People is a Nobel thing.. but I am fresh out of Nobel this Year!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:35 | 2029897 Spastica Rex
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There are no rich people in America, there are only middle class job creators and middle class welfare deadbeats. If you're not in one of those groups, you don't exist.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 20:30 | 2030923 FEDbuster
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When discussing who might drop out on CNN, one of their "experts" said Ron Paul will stay on till the GOP Convention.  This idiot said the reason RP will stay on, is to "raise money for the Paul family."  He made it sound like all the money RP raises goes straight into his retirement account.  I almost shot the TV, instead I just turned the channel.  These cocksuckers will say anything to dissuade the sheeple from listening and voting for Ron Paul.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:15 | 2029779 redpill
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Front page Drudge poll, vote for Ron Paul please

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:23 | 2029825 Michael
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How about this threat I'm making;

Vote for Ron Paul or 100% guaranteed you get Obama another 4 years, then maybe Rand Paul in 2016.

That's your choice period, over, end of story. You don't like it? Tuff shit, cause that's what you are going to get. Suck it up.

The power of the Paul crew continues to grow. The people can now feel what it feels like to have that kind of political power coursing through their veins right now.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:08 | 2030063 Hephasteus
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Fake threat. Obama is a bullshit facade. Pretense of reasonability. He's used up. He's gone. They want Mitt. They'll get MItt. Even if ron paul wins the votes. They'll rig the voting machines.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:48 | 2030259 JW n FL
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ala' Bush v. Gore.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:52 | 2030284 European American
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If "they" want Obama to go another 4 years, and they put him in the seat, you better believe Rand Paul would end up in a Guantanamo setting along with his dad, along with you, and me and almost everyone else who's posted on ZH.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:16 | 2029787 flattrader
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I declare CHS too stupid to understand that Iowa doesn't matter for Republicans...except for the winner...who will likely be knocked outta the race.

Go Paul.


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:30 | 2029872 Socratic Dog
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Yeah, we also heard ad nauseum that the black man would be shot as soon as he was elected.  If it happened, it didn't affect his ability to read the teleprompter aloud.

Drop this "Ron Paul will be shot" shit.  More likely that, if he does continue as a front runner, others have more to fear than he does.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:52 | 2030282 JW n FL
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Socratic Dog

Yeah, we also heard ad nauseum that the black man would be shot as soon as he was elected. If it happened, it didn't affect his ability to read the teleprompter aloud.

Drop this "Ron Paul will be shot" shit. More likely that, if he does continue as a front runner, others have more to fear than he does.

The "Black Man" who signed the NDAA? You mean Bush Part Deux?

The Hope and Change Machine?

thats why he is still alive.. he did NOT! Buck the System!

Wake Up!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:26 | 2029813 Joseph Jones
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Me thinks you lie.  Me thinks you are a true supporter of the system you appear to hate.  Me thinks you are a Judaic troll.  

I've heard Ron Paul and read his belief system.  Ron agrees with G. Washington's dire warnings in his Farewell Address (available online).  Paul and Washington warn that the USA must have good relationships only with nations if/when said relations are mutually beneficially.  The way I see it is, we meet with nation X, each of us with a suitcase filled with trinkets.  We pick out several of their trinkets, they pick out several of ours, we say, "hey, nice doing business with you, we'll check back in a couple months", and we DO NOT GIVE A ROYAL CRAP WHATEVER ELSE THEY DO WITH THEIR LITTLE SELVES, EVEN IF THEY SACRIFICE TO WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE FALSE GODS.  No policing the world, no spreading democracy, none of that ridiculous, painful, evil thought crosses our public minds.        

By GW's and RP's thinking, the entire concept of an "unbreakable bond" (Obumscrew and Hillary's exact words) with Israel is impossible.  Further, the current situation in which the USA outlaws government-based religion is only and purely contrary to sending money to, and instituting a nation whose entire existence is based on the false lying thought that there is an Israeli people whose DNA makes them superior to every non-Judaic person (actualy, they teach their DNA is the only human DNA, and goyim DNA is mongrel.  Orthodox Jews are happy to lie to your face about this Judaic teaching...Judaism teaches such hateful, racist lies and gets away with it.  Judaism is never accused of being what it, a hateful, biggoted, racist religion.  While any and every public lie about Christ (such as the Romans killed him, not the Pharisees) is wholly supported in public. 

I've said this several times: Plato (I don't subscribe to everything Plato) rates our repbulican form of democracy one step above fasicsm. 


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:01 | 2029672 BigJim
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...he should just say that "unelectability means they don't want you to vote for me."

Nice! Sometimes you really nail it, Trav.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:40 | 2030216 NumberNone
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New media message on Paul to accomodate his followers "Love his fiscal conservatism, hate his foreign policy'.  If it weren't for his damn foreign policy stance they would be 100% on board with Ron Paul for President.  Sure.  If you love his fiscal ideas so much,how about pressuring the other candidates to adopt them? 

If you can't make him go away by ignoring him or calling him a racist, maybe at the very least you can placate with his followers with some pablum bullshit in the hope that RP goes away and then they will come to you. 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:51 | 2029618 UGrev
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So the ELECTED to congressional office, congressman (who was elected by the way) is not electable ....because?  Sorry, I'm failing to make the connection here. How is someone who has been elected to congress numerous time, suddenly not electable? 


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:06 | 2029706 buyingsterling
Tue, 01/03/2012 - 19:32 | 2030795 ultraticum
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Because blow-hard shit for brains O'Reilly said so, that's why.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 20:01 | 2030866 akak
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And that's being unfair to shit!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:34 | 2029521 Transformer
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That's the scary part, if he does win and continues to do so.  Somehow, they off him, and then what happens?  A violent civil war is the last thing we need in this country.  I'm afraid it could happen though.  Ron Paul has given us hope, and if that were to suddenly be taken away, who can predict what could happen next.

The MSM doesn't get it.  Their lies and attacks on RP only serve to make him more popular.  In their arrogant ignorance, they don't realize that more people get it than don't, so that when they attack and it turns out to be lies, they are just bolstering RP.  The MSM is discredited in the eyes of all who matter.  Only the most asleep, non involved of the sheeple still give the MSM any credence.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:36 | 2029537 323
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Nah,  just make his running mate someone they hate even more. Like Bernie Sanders...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:00 | 2029667 Vagabond
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If Ron Paul were to get elected and then killed, I think a lot of people would leave the country.  What other choice is there?  I don't want to take on the CIA... I'll be immediately deemed a terrorist and thrown in a concentration camp.  If RP gets killed, I'll have to leave the country, it's the best choice left.  If I was an  older man, I'd sit at home with my shotgun and wait for "them" to come, but I'm just getting my life started... I have no intention of spending it detained.

TPTB are far better off rigging the election.  So if that's what it takes, that's what will happen.  They'd much rather deal with the election fraud can of worms than the one that gets opened if he's shot.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:16 | 2029780 tarsubil
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How much could Ron Paul change if elected? I'm convinced Ron's mission is first to get the word out. His growing popularity simply shows that media dominance enjoyed by the elite is eroding away. This corrupt system is unraveling. Ron Paul can't be defeated no matter what they do.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:33 | 2030174 Voluntary Exchange
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Ideas are bullet proof.  RP has helped many to think about what truly counts, freedom, self-reliance, peaceful cooperation ,  and equality of rights for all.  Kill him, and their problems just multiply.  

I think they will try to throw the elections that they can throw, (about 80% of US votes counted by electronic machines last time I checked), and then hope people just forget about his ideas. That won't happen, his ideas will only grow as evidenced by the next generation. The dark ones have already lost. Their old tricks don't work any more so now its time for them to become desparate and try to upset the game board.  They are capable of anything, including mass murder,  so batten down the hatches, things could get surreal. 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:05 | 2029704 Jena
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Ron Paul/Rand Paul.  How about that?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:08 | 2029730 buyingsterling
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That makes huge sense on one level. But the sheeple would be convinced by the media that it's some kind of monarchy in the making (idiots).

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:10 | 2029740 Michael
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Did you know Dick Santorum took his dead stillborn baby home for two days to show his other children?

Alan Colmes, Fox News Contributor, Criticizes Rick Santorum For 'Crazy' Behavior, Then Apologizes (VIDEO)

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:28 | 2029856 DFCtomm
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You ever been in that situation? My ex had a stillborn and it was the most gruesome experience I've ever had, but if you're young enough maybe you'll get to see just how "crazy" that is. I hope you do.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:16 | 2029783 Michael
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How about this threat I'm making;

Vote for Ron Paul or 100% guaranteed you get Obama another 4 years, then maybe Rand Paul in 2016.

That's your choice period, over, end of story. You don't like it? Tuff shit, cause that's what you are going to get. Suck it up.

The power of the Paul crew continues to grow. The people can now feel what it feels like to have that kind of political power coursing through their veins right now.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:33 | 2029885 Joseph Jones
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I was once a pure, hate-filled, raving, neo-con, Bill O'Reilly/Faux "News"-loving, idealogue.  Now I truly love and endorse Bernie Sanders, and realize the entire R/L paradigm is the favorite tool of the elite, a tool that keeps them hidden behind their curtain of power.  Quite a turn-around, eh?

Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders would be quite the ticket.   

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:45 | 2030246 Alienated Serf
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Ron Paul/Bernie Sanders  FTW

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:01 | 2029662 BigJim
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...Only the most asleep, non involved of the sheeple still give the MSM any credence.

You need to get out more. You've just described the majority of US voters.

I would LOVE to see RP win, and have donated, but it would take a miracle... and, if by some miracle he was elected, how long before he died of 'natural causes'?

Still, if he's game...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:50 | 2029605 miguel991
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I agree with you.

I watched the tonight show the other evening (first time in forever) because Dr. Paul was on. He was greeted by a exhuberant crowd that gave him a (lasting) standing ovation.

The mainstream "news" clearly does not represent the wants, thoughts and wishes of the popular vote.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:04 | 2029690 Vagabond
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You discount the fact that RP's supporters feel an incredibly strong bond.  They follow him anywhere.  Whereever he speaks, it is not an indicative cross section of America.  Just saying, not hating.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:51 | 2029606 miguel991
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sorry, hit the save button twice.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:57 | 2030021 Hayabusa
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I agree with "nope" in that the younger generation is getting their news online, not TV.  One other factor that bears mentioning, is the Flynn effect... each generation gets smarter than the last one (evolution).  The newest generation is indeed smart, avoid newspapers, TV and ferret out their own news sources.  The younger generation dislikes authority and the status quo to begin with... when they see all the cronyism/corruption exposed online, but not on TV or the newspapers they distrust the establishment even more... my money says when humankind reaches the tipping point and the majority of people are smart enough to realize how they've been duped by elected officials, it's going to get interesting fast.  The older generation is operating on "old principles" and their media manipulation/propoganda is recognized by the newer/smarter younger generation... my guess is one day things will "tip" and then it's going to get interesting fast.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:10 | 2030077 BennyBoy
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"The ministry if propaganda is missing one key aspect:  The internet and the power that it has bringing alternative news onto everyones lap whenever they choose."


The Ministry of Fantasies now has an internet kill switch.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 19:11 | 2030733 caconhma
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It is close to impossible to expect free and honest elections in America. Presently, fraud and corruptions have prevailed over the Constitution or whatever left of it.

So, what Americans will do after realizing that their votes are totally irrelevant? Buy another iPod?


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:45 | 2029580 aerojet
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I don't know what to make of this.  Ron Paul's popularity is a pretty good signal that the situation is seriously out of control and regular people are waking up to that fact.  We should take our medicine now and not let chaos reign--Ron Paul would at least try to institute reforms whereas any other contender would be happy to just let nature take its dangerous course.  What I'm not sure of is whether RP could even be successful in any way.  We needed RP a decade ago.  It's really just too late now, but I'm all for trying versus doing nothing.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:58 | 2029625 whstlblwr
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In New Hampshire people there say worried that if they cut government now it will make economy worse. So their answer to vote Romney keep spending and tnen what? At least with Paul we get things undercontrol and hard slog will be on solid foundation.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:00 | 2029664 john39
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sounds like a potentially clever way to sell austerity.   hard to say if the right cuts would be made...  but if you had to sell austerity, can you think of a better route than a president RP?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:37 | 2029909 Joseph Jones
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Rest assured: Paul is 100% the opposite of every other candidate.  When neo-cons like Romney, Sewertorum, and Bachman talk about cuts, they'd increase miiltary spending exponentially, especially for "Israel".  Paul prefers to close all or virtually all the 450+ foreign military bases, end foreign wars, and would cut military spending to the bone. 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:55 | 2029636 UGrev
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Ron Paul is THE LAST STOP before civil war, IMO. 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:51 | 2029617 King_of_simpletons
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LOL. Drudge has a caucus:

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:21 | 2029812 SteveGennisonBa...
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Ron Paul is unelectable, but "frothy mix of lube and fecal matter" is electable somehow.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:36 | 2029903 pacu44
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Just google.




LOL, and the way he hates gays, ironic...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:13 | 2030095 Idiocracy
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He hates gays because he IS gay.   Republican / conservative gays are taught to hate themselves and so ultimately they are driven to taking wide stances in airport bathrooms and to fondling congressionalal pages.  Look at Santorum's face, vaguely feminine, isn't it?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:38 | 2030183 akak
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I guess that explains why man-loving Michael Bachmann had the sex-change operation.

I mean, really, just look at it --- there is NO WAY that THAT was born a woman!
(Or, I am increasingly coming to suspect, even a human.)

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 17:03 | 2030329 Smokey1
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You do seem to be preoccupied with deviant sex. I guess that's what happens when you fantasize about a threesome with Ron and Rand Paul.

Your wildest dreams consisted of the likes of Michele Bachmann, back before your permanent conversion to twinkieland.

Maybe, when Ron Paul is soundly rejected in his laughable, futile attempt at higher office, he'll fix you up with a date with his faggot son so you and Rand can do each other while talking about how his father almost saved the world.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:32 | 2029487 blindfaith
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the age old struggle between truth and hope.  Hope struggles to stave off truth, but in the end truth smothers hope.

As soon as Ron Paul realizes that he can not hope to win or govern with a divided populas...based on race, religeon, sex orientation, income, or what-have-you daily divide and conquer of the GOP message, his potential WIN won't be a slim margin but a landslide win.

He has both hope and truth on his side if he does the right thing.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:00 | 2029668 Joeman34
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Unofficial poll up at Drudge:


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:06 | 2029383 Mad Marv
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They are so friggin scared of Ron Paul. I would love to see him win tonight.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:11 | 2029398 HamyWanger
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The Medias actually treat Ron Paul very fairly and there is NO "corporate" (codeword that conspriacists anti-Semites use) plot against him. 

They just say the crystalline truth, namely, that he is unelectable. If he were elected, the USA would cease to exist in a ~3 months span. All the forces of economic collapse (thanks to his foolish idea of a return to the "gold standard") and atomic power (thanks to his brilliant ideas about non-interventionism) would be unleashed on our territory. 

Thankfully, the American masses are intelligent and will see through the barrage of lies and self-hatred emanating from the Ron Paul supporters. 


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:13 | 2029415 Robot Traders Mom
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We are anti-zionists, not anti-semites.


You can't even troll correctly without fucking it up.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:31 | 2029508 caconhma
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Look how he called Americans: "the American masses". Yes, these zionist masters loves "the American masses"

But I have a bad news for this POS. We are American People and we are tired to be slaves!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:37 | 2029543 Transformer
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Aw, come on guys.  Hamy is the man.  If he don't make you laugh, you are unlaughable.  Smile when you read Hamy and then you will know the truth and it will set you free!!!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:03 | 2029688 BigJim
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I want to red him for being so wrong! I want to green him for his perfect hammy trolling! I'm sooooo conflicted!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:06 | 2029708 eureka
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RE Hamy and all other trolls - best way to deal with them: ignore them 100% - i.e. no green or red arrows and no responses or counter-commentaries at all - let them sit completely un-noticed - and everyone will know they are fucktards. Hamy's "new" strategy: blatant exaggeration so as to appear a master of sarcasm, should also be ignored - it is disingeneous, badly executed and a poor attempt to get "back" in the limelight.

Ignore and conquer.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:41 | 2029558 kaiserhoff
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Some of us are both.  I don't care much for the fucking Towel Heads either, and they're Semites;)

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:06 | 2030062 DFCtomm
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I absolutely love that one. I'm sure they used it in Germany when they were first getting started. LOL!!! I can see Hitler now: no, no we aren't anti-semites we're anti-zionist, and then a bit later poof went the Jews. But you guys are the smart ones. You see things how they really are. You aren't being manipulated. Nobody is leading you down the primrose path.  You aren't one of the sheep. I got a clue for you moron. You're still a sheep, but just a different color.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:19 | 2029452 gojam
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How about if Israeli politicians use the word "corporate" are they using codewords ?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:35 | 2029533 trav7777
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I love how the sky will fall tomorrow anytime anyone says we need to maybe reverse course.

if we end the war and don't invade everyone, the sky will fall.  If we reverse the debtmoney financial system, the sky will fall. Any attempt to right things EVERYONE AGREES are wrongs will cause the sky to fall.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:37 | 2029545 GeneMarchbanks
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Works well, doesn't it?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:11 | 2029751 Vagabond
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Make sure to also ignore the fact that last time around the American people voted for exactly who the media circus performers were touting, and IT TURNED OUT FUCKING TERRIBLE.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:39 | 2029553 israhole
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Conrats Hamy, spoken like a paranoid Jew.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:46 | 2029577 israhole
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Cue up the holocaust whining even though the holohoax wan't even mentioned in encyclopedias until the 1970s. FACT!

Yet somehow it gets exploited these days every time a "Chosen one" gets nervous.  Us goyim are waiting, let's hear it Hamy?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:49 | 2029983 Joseph Jones
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I love how the word "holocaust" is so "sacred" to orthodox Judaism, that Judaic terror-supporters like Debra Lipstadt (PhD professor, IIRC Harvard) denies that the "Allies" fried 40k German civilians in Dresden.  When Judaics deny a goyim holocaust, it is NOT HOLOCAUST DENIAL, a term reserved only for Judaics.  What hateful, racist, evil, unadulterated bigotry!!!  Did you know there is no such thing as a hateful Jew?  No such thing as a Jewish extremist?  No such thing as a racist Jew?  What?  You mean it's not evil to teach Jewish DNA is sacred, and goyim DNA is mongrel?  Very interesting!   

When democracy fries civilians, it's always and only with God's sweet blessings...

Love the line by the evil character played by John Lithgow in Cliffhanger: "Kill a dozen people, you're a mass-murderer, kill thousands and you're a 'conqueror' ".    

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:42 | 2029564 AbelCatalyst
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The Status Quo detector goes off when fear is communicated. Hamy presents a perfect illustration of how to manipulate with fear. It's the only tool the Status Quo has so look for it when people talk and share ideas - you'll immediately know what side they are on.

Thanks Hamy for such a clear example - you can go back to your cubicle, create a PowerPont and present your cool revenue figures to your bosses, who will do the same, who will do the same, and nothing will actually be created. All that work for some cool little charts (maybe you could even use some swanky animation and get a few extra bonus points!!). Welcome to the illusory world of the Status Quo when nothing is something and something (I.e. a Gold Standard) is nothing.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:44 | 2029572 Piranhanoia
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Hamy, you were warned by the medical staff not to use television any longer.  You were told it is affecting your mind in ways that caused strange decisions and actions that showed you were a danger to yourself and others in your community.  Come back before they drag you back in that special jacket.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:54 | 2029633 Conrad Murray
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Little known fact: This song, with 100s of thousands of views, was written by the staff charged with observing Hamy

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:56 | 2029640 UGrev
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*tosses hamy some peanuts*

Good troll.. now go find your bridge. 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:05 | 2029703 Reptil
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I don't mind your confused ramblings about politicians, and "empire". But if you promote "atomic power", you've just qualified yourself as a war mongerer. Genocidal creep. Do you really think the continued use of atomic bombs (in Fallujah) would help your clan of sycophants? Destroying parts of the planet just to propell your idea of self importance? This is a new age and people are becoming aware of the crimes those that you stand for ("cold war" emperialists like the PNAC, Putin et al) have committed. When they do, and they find out what I have, I don't give a rat's ass for your hide. Or a tear.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:40 | 2029927 Joseph Jones
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Shove that flag where sun don't shine. 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 17:20 | 2030407 Smokey1
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Heresy I say!!!  You speak heresy!!!

In this land of deluded fools, Ron Paul is a mortal lock for President.

It is astonishing to see the extent of self-delusion among Paul's backers. I mean, there is no fucking way that Paul gets elected. Anyone can see that, unless they are simply beyond hope and utterly clueless.

You could spot Ron Paul Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida and he STILL wouldn't contend. He is a joke in the debates, because there is no hiding there. Everyone can see what a fool he is, as he strenuously argues for Iran's right to nuclear weapons.

Sorry, Paul supporters. Paul will remain light years from the White House.

Ron Paul eats shit.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 17:45 | 2030449 akak
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You forgot to mention how all we Ron Paul supporters have our mouths on his shriveled nutsack, as you usually do in all the rest of your cute little anti-Ron Paul homophobic neocon rants.

God, I love the smell of pro-Establishment fear and desperation in the morning!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:10 | 2029399 francis_sawyer
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If anyone wants a good laugh... They ought to watch this little clip on YOU TUBE...

Essentially, it's a comparison of MSM newsbytes of the the 2008 vs. the 2012 Iowa Caucuses... In 2008, when "the right" candidates were in line to win in Iowa, it was all about how TELLING it was with regards to the potential outcome...

Now, in 2012... With Ron Paul as a frontrunner... They all come out and say that Iowa doesn't mean a thing... It's hysterical (& sad)...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:47 | 2029583 AgShaman
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Shameless tactics

They mean to toss around veiled threats to Iowans...

Vote for RP....we'll deem your state irrelevant....and strip you of your 1st on the list priviledges.

Iowans should take all this as a slap in the face....they've been "turned out" and pimped by MSM thugs that don't feel it necessary to inform how they seek to prostitute their viewership...the same way they've prostituted themselves.

How does it feel Iowa? You have now become MSM's "cheapest whore in the room"

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:15 | 2029778 Bangin7GramRocks
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Huckabee won in 2008. How electable was he? It did get him a job on Fox though. Stop being so offended when people call Ron Paul unelectable. He would have a chance in a general election, but he is indeed unelectable in the republican primary elections. He does not support killing more brown people and he is not a religious zealot. He is also against the financial status quo. Those are the 3 pillars of the republican party. Deal with it and hope he runs as an independent. Stop the fucking whining!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:20 | 2029459 Hugh G Rection
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Haven't you heard? If he wins tonight, Iowa doesn't matter.  If he doesnt win tonight, Iowa matters and it proves he is unelectable.

How anyone still tolerates MSM intellectual feces is beyond me. I still enjoy Judge Napo, and if Ainsley Earhardt uncrossed her legs on camera, I'd sure look for the youtube clip....apart from that, pure garbage.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:11 | 2029597 flattrader
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Iowa on the Rep side serves to identify the too far right/fall off the edge of the planet candidate and winnow down the field.

For almost all of the past 30 years the winner of Iowa has failed to get the party nomination.

Caucus winner eliminated.  Second and Third place get a ticket out to NH.  That's all.

The vote totals don't mean shit anyway.  Anyone who can get off their ass on a cold night can attend a Rpublican caucus (less than 6% of elligible voters) literally anyone...they don't even have to be Republicans or registered voters...fuck with those (lack of) controls, you don't even have to be from Iowa.


>>>As the Brad Blog documents, the potential for the Iowa primary result to be manipulated by using saboteurs to flood vote for one candidate is considerable.

“No Photo ID is necessary for any voter in the Republican Iowa caucuses. No Photo ID is necessary to register as a Republican at the caucus site, even if you’re not already a registered voter. You may then cast your vote at the caucus on the same day you’ve registered (without a Photo ID).”

Vote fraud expert Bev Harris has compiled a checklist to aid vote observers in ensuring a fair count.<<<

Since the Rep Caucus is a fraud, who cares?...except the winner who will get knocked out of the race if the past 30 yrs are an indicator.

...and all you amatuers want Paul to win this...



Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:08 | 2029718 BigJim
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Good find! But she's clearly one of Icke's Lizard People. No human being smiles like that.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:39 | 2029552 FMR Bankster
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I wandered down to hear RP speak at the Des Moines Marriott yesterday at 11. Good crowd of around 1000. This is the first time I've been to a rally since the Ames straw poll in August. Mainstream media was there in large numbers (RP's advance people apparently understood that those clowns wouldn't leave the safety of the hotel they were staying at)Joe klein,Soledad O'Brien, Chris Matthews, it was great watching them observe the crowd. Lot's of people of all ages but especially young people. You could see how nervous they were that somethings going on and they are completely out of the loop. This is all about ground game here now and RP's got it. Must have recieved 20 robo calls today for various candidates but RP's the only one with real people calling. Only wish the weather was worse to depress the casual voters. Self control is my new motto, so I was proud of myself for not kicking Matthews in the nuts.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:04 | 2029692 francis_sawyer
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I was proud of myself for not kicking Matthews in the nuts

I'd have just went ahead and kicked him in the nuts while I had the chance...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:54 | 2030004 Joseph Jones
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LOL!  Christ has nuts???

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 02:26 | 2031997 Hephasteus
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That's not self control. Self control is kicking him in the nuts. Damaging the right nerve, making THIS happen to him.

Then making him beg donations so he can pay your outrageous fucking extorsion fees to fix it.

THAT'S self control.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:49 | 2029602 aerojet
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Me too.  Ron Paul is my only voice in government.  He always has been.  But hope is something I gave up on long ago.  I realize fully that the majority of the voting public is not smart enough to understand any issues whatsoever.  I know of retarded people who vote.  I mean truly retarded, living in a group home types.  There is no rational democracy is the US, it has all been a lie for a very long time.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:50 | 2029610 kito
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there is always gary johnson!!!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:06 | 2029386 redpill
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They are right, he is unelectable, because between global banking interests and the military industrial complex, he'd be shot before they'd ever let him get elected.

But I'm voting for him anyway.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:23 | 2029464 NotApplicable
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Vote? Diebold begs to differ.

Also, if he were to win, they wouldn't shoot him, but rather break everything and blame the resulting catastrophe on his "isolationist" views. In other words, he represents their ultimate "get out of jail free" card. Better yet, the disaster will serve the fear-mongers well, as they will use this example to ensure the end of freedom movements for the time being, as they will be promoted as the evil that almost destroyed "us."

As for fearing his actual power, well, that will depend upon where the loyalties of the police and military lie. They will be the only source of institutional power he will have any access to (as all the rest is the facade where the banksters dominate).

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:01 | 2029669 Conrad Murray
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EAC has issued its Formal Investigation Report regarding the Election Systems & Software (ES&S) DS200 Precinct Count Optical Scanner in the EAC-certified Unity voting system. The conclusion is that three of the four anomalies that were originally identified are substantiated.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:10 | 2029739 BigJim
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Voting machines should be restricted to open source software BY LAW.

Wed, 01/04/2012 - 02:22 | 2031987 StychoKiller
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Not only yeah, but HELL YEAH!!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:45 | 2029578 DogSlime
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I have a horrible feeling that's how it will pan out - although I doubt it would be a shooting.

If Ron Paul actually gets ahead in the running, then I would expect a bout of pneumonia/brain heamorrhage/coronary.  Failing that an aeroplane crash.

I hope he survives and wins.  If he were in the UK, I would vote for him every time.  I don't agree with everything he proposes, but at least he's not one of the puppets.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:04 | 2029691 Conrad Murray
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I'm sure RP could raise enough money to get himself a bitchin popemobile. Plenty of people who would let him stay in their Atlas silos. A good many veterans willing to serve as his secret service. And plenty of Average Joes willing to take up armed resistance if he gets martyr'd.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:51 | 2029414 fuu
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RP ftw.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:26 | 2029475 I Got Worms
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Was listening in on a breakroom conversation between 2 co-workers about the election this morning. One is a Republican probably cut from Perry/Gingritch cloth, and the other an uber-liberal  Obomber-apologist Democrat. Both HATE Ron Paul with vengences. I just smiled, knowing that I'm backing precisely the right man.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:52 | 2029619 aerojet
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I wish the people on various gun-related message forums were smarter about politics.  There are many Republicans who seemingly can't own up to responsibility or something.  Or they're afraid that RP might cut the military or some other cash cow that they are attached to, perhaps?  Such baseless fear.  As if cutting the American empire down to size would be anything but a good overall.  They don't realize that you cannot love both freedom and empire at the same time.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:11 | 2030067 whstlblwr
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Educate them. I've educated friends who would given support to Romney or Gingrich before. You can change their mind.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:51 | 2029609 fonestar
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And at the very least, Ron Paul (closing in on 80 years old) is sending a signal that the legacy-media brain dead FOX/CNN/ABC/NBC et al viewers are on their way out.  Try controlling the internet that way and good luck with that.  See you in hell!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:44 | 2029944 ClassicalLib17
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I got a 503 service error when I tried to give you a +1, Jayda1850?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:58 | 2030027 Freddie
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Keep watching TV you dumb f**king sheep.  Your viewership of TV and Hollywood's shit enpowers and enables your overlords.  Enjoy the 24x7 brainwashing in HD - morons.

Ron Paul 2012 and anyone but the muslim and gingrinch.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:00 | 2029346 GeneMarchbanks
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Yeah. He speaks too much sense, I know.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:02 | 2029356 Kastorsky
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The History Of Vote Fraud In The United States



Typical of the horror stories associated with the media-owned Voters News Service is what happened in Dubuque County Iowa during the 1996 Caucuses. The county’s 41 precincts met in 41 classrooms at two high schools and voted on old fashioned paper ballots, which were then counted in full view of all present(including representatives of the candidates), and the results posted for all to see and verify. The vote totals were then phoned directly into Voters News Service by the county chairman, again in full view of all participants that night. Buchanon won the county by a wide margin, garnering 870 votes. By next morning,Voters News Service had dropped Buchanon’s vote total for that county down to 757 votes, a 13% drop. Buchanon lost Iowa by a much smaller margin than 13%.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:20 | 2029455 Kastorsky
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VOTE TABULATION FOR NATIONAL ELECTIONS HAS BEEN HANDLED NOT BY THE GOVERNMENT, BUT BY A PRIVATE COMPANY LACKING ANY OFFICIAL OVERSIGHT AT ALL. This company, which changes its name on a regular basis, is currently called"Voters News Service" and is located in New York City. THIS COMPANY IS OWNED BY A CONSORTIUM OF TV NETWORKS AND WIRE SERVICES, which ARE IN TURN CONTROLLED BY THE CIA through its Operation MOCKINGBIRD. The TV networks will make a great show of being "first with the election results", but in reality all of them rely on the numbers sent to them by VNS, while seldom acknowledging its existence during the election coverage.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:01 | 2029358 ayanni
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Anyone else shorting MTN?  Business plan don't work without snow.  I don't see the news that would have this one down 6% on an otherwise up day.  Must be a couple Wall Streeters back from New Years vacation realized these places are ghost towns when they should be packed.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:02 | 2029363 stant
stant's picture

bagdad bobs of the media

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:11 | 2029747 francis_sawyer
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Bagdad BOOBS

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:02 | 2029364 Silver Bug
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I love how they say is unelectable as he surges in the polls, this is the most blanant propaganda they have engaged in, in a long time. People are seeing right through it, and that is why he is surging in the polls. Their propaganda is working against them!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:03 | 2029369 King_of_simpletons
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The "Status Quo" is terrified. They are going all out to even discredit Iowa GOP primary just in case Ron Paul turns out to be the winner. It is actually fun to listen to the talk shows and how the puppet masters steer the sheep.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:04 | 2029371 HamyWanger
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This article is full of shit. Conspiracy theories on a daily basis now, Zerohedge? I thought you were better than that. 

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:08 | 2029387 GOSPLAN HERO
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HamyWanker is the king troll of MarketWatch.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:15 | 2029426 bob_dabolina
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I'm almost positive that hamy is one of the Tylers in drag. It's sardonic humor.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:35 | 2029531 NotApplicable
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He's getting out of character with the "angered by wingnut" approach, though, making the whole persona hollow and less appealing. Perhaps the competition from MDB is having an effect?

Is it too much to ask for coherent trolls? Or does the infinite expanse of the ether ensure their spoilage?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:54 | 2029634 Transformer
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Hamy is the man.  If you want to know what's really happening, listen to Hamy.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:24 | 2029836 NotApplicable
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Well, I just gave him my first down-vote, ever.

This is not his A-game.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 16:52 | 2030275 akak
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I'm almost positive that hamy is one of the Tylers in drag.

As I am positive about the same in regards to RobotRetarder --- nobody here could possibly be that clueless.

(Well, on the other hand, there was leo kolonasskiss .....)

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:11 | 2029408 Robot Traders Mom
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I really thought you had left.


Have you made any real life friends yet? I'm honestly pulling for you. Being a social leper is no way for you to go through life.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:00 | 2029671 kk1532003
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like being fat, drunk and stupid..

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:48 | 2029591 FeralSerf
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Don't you guys think you've just about worn out your "conspiracy theory" label?

It's an interesting "coincidence" that the ones that yell "conspiracy theory" the loudest are also the ones that yell "anti-semitist" whenever someone disagrees with them?  What's that all about?  (As if we didn't know.)

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:04 | 2029372 Sudden Debt
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You americans should write viral emails supporting Ron Paul and post as much online as possible!

Use the power of facebook against those dictators!!

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:12 | 2029374 Mercury
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Ross Perot run, can drop out of the race for three months, re-enter, play the drums like a maniac on national TV....and still get 19% of the popular vote


Ron Paul is not unelectable. Period.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:17 | 2029437 Killtruck
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Double negatives make my brain ouchy.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:27 | 2029465 Mercury
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How about this one:


-Mitt Romney won't run as a third party candidate
-Ron Paul will (or certainly might)
-The Republicans have a better chance of beating Obama in a 2-way election if Paul is their candidate than in a 3-way with Romney as their candidate

If this is true then Ron Paul is holding the only card that matters at this point.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:27 | 2029485 fuu
fuu's picture

I love your dimes.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:34 | 2029523 Mercury
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The silver ones?  I'm shocked.

That was (briefly) the original Mercury ZH avatar way back when until another coin guy pointed out that the image (from the dime) actually depicts Lady Liberty donning the famed Phygian cap.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:58 | 2029653 fuu
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Yeah but we call them Mercury Dimes, not Liberty Wearing a Hat Dimes.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:28 | 2029859 Mercury
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Well more importantly they still (their silver content) can buy a gallon of gasoline after all these years...

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:59 | 2029654 gaoptimize
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Is that a form of birth control?

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 17:38 | 2030468 FMR Bankster
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RP won't run as a third party candidate, that's just the Democrats wet dream. He'll take this thing all the way to the convention and if he fails his son will run in 2016. And time is on the side of sound money, smaller federal goverment and a non interventionist policy overseas. Sh*t's hitting the fan RIGHT NOW and it only gets worse if we stay on the current path.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:04 | 2029375 cherry picker
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They are right because Ron Paul appears to have integrity, he is not stupid, is against the czar/oil/fed cartel and supports the Constitution and Bill of Rights..

He has no hope, because the MSM have blacklisted him and if he ever should win, he won't be around long or will be rendered ineffective.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:13 | 2029768 Reptil
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that's a self fulfilling prophecy of defeat. not a winning strategy. :-)

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:04 | 2029376 Nascent_Variable
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The longer it drags out, the more support Ron Paul will get.  Once people get past the initial mental block caused by the talking heads branding him as a lunatic, they actually start listening to what he has to say, and once they do, they'll come in droves, as Iowa has recently shown.

I hope he wins it all, but even if he doesn't, he can secure enough delegates to play a major role in a brokered convention.  Maybe even enough to secure a spot as Treasury Secretary.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:03 | 2029686 Transformer
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I think you nailed it.  I think this is how it happens.  The MSM calls him names, a lunatic, whatever.  This arouses the curiosity of people.  They then spend the very little effort it takes to find out what Ron Paul is really saying, simply by a few clicks on their computer.  The MSM message only works when they control the news, and they don't. 

I think people tend to stick with what they know, but these crazy attacks from all the talking head morons arouse curiosity in the sheeple.  And then, the light bulb turns on, and RP has another supporter.

Ross Perot would have won if he had had any political experience, as he was telling the truth, just like RP.  RP has the political experience of a hardened and wizend veteran.  He will not falter, and will win, unless they change the game, by eliminating him, declaring martial law, 3rd world war, etc.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:16 | 2029782 Reptil
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"unless they change the game, by eliminating him, declaring martial law, 3rd world war, etc."

that could happen. but there'll be massive blowback. the vote count tonight is very important. as the results of RP winning will emerge, they won't be able to "erase" him.

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 15:15 | 2029776 vs an army all alone
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Treasury secretary? That will never happen Goldman owns that position.


Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:06 | 2029384 kentfinance
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Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:06 | 2029385 ZDRuX
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MYSTERY: Tonight's Iowa Vote Count To Take Place At Secret Location

Tue, 01/03/2012 - 14:07 | 2029389 Cdad
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All Average Joe needs to do to defeat the effect of the mystrium, propaganda agents is to switch off the television.  Oh, and btw, millions of Americans have been doing that, long ago discarding the MSM as a source of information.

Simple.  Probably what is happening, actually.

Should be an interesting night followed by a deluge of propaganda.  Happily, as previously noted, Cdad no longer has television :)  Feel the quality of life already ramping.

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