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The Ministry Of Propaganda Declares Ron Paul "Unelectable"
Submitted by Charles Hugh Smith from Of Two Minds
The Ministry Of Propaganda Declares Ron Paul "Unelectable"
The Ministry of Propaganda has chosen to suppress the only dangerous-to-the-Power Elites candidate by declaring him "unelectable."
The Status Quo's Ministry of Propaganda has a single political task for 2012: eliminate the sole threat to the Status Quo (Ron Paul) from the running, leaving voters with a "choice" of clueless stooges for the Power Elite.
That roster includes President Obama and the daytime-TV/soap-opera field of Republicrat contenders.
The Ministry of Propaganda has settled on a ludicrous strategy to eliminate Ron Paul: declare Paul "unelectable."
As with all propaganda, the basic idea is that if it is repeated often enough on officially sanctioned stages, it will eventually be accepted as "true."
Our Christmas-New Year's week of family visits took us to homes where the television is on all the time, and as a result I was exposed to the Ministry of Propaganda's preferred media, TV "news." Regardless of the channel or program, the message was the same: "The presidential race will between Obama and either Romney or Gingrich."
Despite the polls that find Paul and Romney with equal levels of support in Iowa, Romney has been declared the front-runner and Paul written off as "unelectable."
In other words, the voters don't even need to check in; the Ministry of Propaganda's army of toadies, lackeys and media apparatchiks have their marching orders: repeat that Ron Paul is unelectable at every opportunity, either explicitly or implicitly via leaving him off the list of "frontrunners."
The Ministry of Propaganda's campaign is easily revealed by two simple thought experiments. How would the corporate media characterize Newt Gingrich's "electability" if he was running neck-and-neck with Romney? Answer: the media toadies would be falling over each other to declare Gingrich "electable."
Now repeat the experiment with Rick Santorum or Michelle Bachmann. The answer is the same: since these candidates are on the list of Power-Elites approved stooges, a showing equal to Ron Paul's would instantly win them veritable tsunamis of media coverage, all focused on their eminent "electability."
Here is the second thought experiment: does anyone seriously think any of the Republicrat candidates are even remotely qualified to deal with the crises brewing on the horizon? What exactly makes them "electable"?
Let's consider them one at a time, scrubbed of spin, PR and propaganda:
Mitt Romney: the perfect player for a remake of "The Stepford Wives" entitled "The Stepford Politicos." Romney is the personification of the telegenic, wealthy empty suit, devoid of any ideas beyond retreads of Status Quo tweaks that leave the Power Elite--of which he is a member--safely in charge.
Romney's "electability" rests on the hopes that the hard drives from his time as governor stay safely erased and that zombified voters conclude that having a family and membership in a church are sufficient qualifications for President.
His handlers have carefully studied the political satire The Candidate and have not yet formulated an answer to the question, "What do we do now?" should the wealthy pawn of the Power Elite improbably win the presidency.
Michelle Bachmann: Imagine her wearing a witch's hat, it isn't hard to do; Bachmann is the ideal Wicked Witch of the West, but without the charisma. She does have a host of frightful winged monkeys, though--her handlers.
Newt Gingrich: Gingrich has a number of redeeming characteristics, starting with his famously unsavory "baggage" that reveals an appealingly flawed core. He is also the only Republicrat candidate that wouldn't bore you to despair within a few minutes, i.e. he actually strays from the canned scripts approved by the Ministry of Propaganda. Third, on occasion he actually reveals glimmers of awareness that the next 10 years will not be like the previous decade, and that America is at a critical crossroads.
Unfortunately, his canned ideology-as-"solution" ideas expired a decade ago and he has no coherent vision of a future that isn't just a slightly modified version of the Power-Elite dominated one that is now hurtling toward instability.
He has shown a remarkable ability, however, to hide his horns and forked tail.
Rick Perry: Another telegenic empty suit who hoped that having a family and membership in a church qualified him for the presidency.
Rick Santorum: Rick's ruthlessness has its charm, starting with his long and painful campaign to establish a simulacrum of intellectual "seriousness." Like all the other stooges, his version of "the vision thing" is a tepid edit of the Status Quo. Like all the stooges other than the refreshingly flawed Gingrich, he hopes membership in a church qualifies him for the presidency.
What all the candidates but Ron Paul dare not acknowledge because it isn't on the approved Ministry of Propaganda script is that the Status Quo is heading off a cliff at the direct behest of the nation's Power Elite. The only candidate that has "the vision thing" and that clearly enunciates exactly how the Power Elite's policies have led the nation off a cliff of insolvency and Imperial hubris is Ron Paul.
For this sin against the Status Quo and its Power Elite, Paul has been excommunicated, and the (pardon my language) smarmy army of corporate media whores cannot declare him "unelectable" often enough.
That is proof that he is highly electable, for otherwise the Ministry of Propaganda wouldn't be running a campaign of such transparent desperation.
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I think the REAL issue is that most Americans can't afford cable tv, and even if they can, they don't have the time to consume those shows because we are working longer (for less).
In a sense, me having to cut out cable was when I turned. I gravitated more towards streaming websites and alternative media, not only to save cash after getting laid off in 2008, but I also grew into learning more and more about the stuff I was watching that wasn't available on MSM.
Plus, the only real entertainment stuff I watch is sports, which is also available on streaming, if you know what you are doing. i think that is why they want SOPA installed; TPTB can then MORE control the ideas and marketing media that is consumed by average viewer.
Do you stream the NFL? Where? Curious.
You may find it odd at first, but a man can live his entire life and be quite happy without ever watching a pro football game. Or baseball, or basketball... And just think of how you are depriving your masters of their very levers of control over you by simply saying no.
Ummm...you have mistaken my question for proof of my NFL enthusiasm. Haven't watched a game in many, many years. It's a question...ok?
I always wondered how people could stay sane while
cohabitating with a television set.
In a smart society, this would, in a smart society, widen a Ron Paul lead because of the American public's lust to "vote em out".
Too bad we live in a dumb society.
That would never happen (as much as I'd love it). He'd be more dangerous there than as POTUS to TPTB; they would kill him before that came to pass.
I've argued this notion that Average Joe is a moron with many folks on ZH. There is an awful lot of evidence that suggests this is simply not true. However, I suspect the truth is...that Average Joe's intelligence [or lack thereof] is a chart that has bottomed, and is reversing in a counter trend intelligence rally.
Hard to say, really...once you move away from anecdotal evidence of your assertion.
If some given individual looks at our political landscape in the US and concludes that there's no meaningful impact his one vote can have, I wouldn't conclude he's a moron. That seems to be true.
It's not that people don't know the next candidate is going to fuck them over. It's that they think (for good reason) that ALL the candidates are going to fuck them over, so they don't care so much who wins.
Even learned apathy is a sign of intelligence.
I'd say that Joe is as only as smart in any single area as they need to be. Anywhere one see stupidity, I see a reason why it's ok, in the form of some law/institution to remove one's personal liability. People are idiots to the extent that their lives have been taken over for them by the devolutionary force D.B.A. "The Nanny State." If people are treated like children by the authorities, it shouldn't be surprising that they never grow up.
As for where Joe's intelligence shines, just listen to any radio call-in sports show and marvel at the sheer number of facts Joe has committed to memory. Intelligence exists, but it is under constant attack from those who would prefer a passive herd that needs their leadership.
Whos Ron Paul? Who are you? Do you know who i am?
Louis Dega (born 1890, Marseilles, France - died unknown, French Guiana) was a prisoner in the French Guiana penitentiary of Devil's Island. He was convicted of fraud and counterfeiting and sentenced to fifteen years' imprisonment by France, where he became a companion of Henri Charrière (also known as Papillon) for thirteen years.
Rumors of baggage Ron Paul is carrying just like all the others. Rumor says Ron Paul didn't finish his vegetables when he was eight years old. Rumor will be confirmed I'm sure.
The propagande against Ron Paul will only raise more votes for him.
Considering the powers that be, have screwed things up so royally, its a joke from them to say he's not worthy of president.
JUst like Faux News putting out that slanderous filth AIDS story, but making the mistake of posting his whole statements, rather than taking them out of context. Idiots. Free advertising for my boy Ron.
All I know is that he is making head way. People that I talk with have all gone down pretty closely to this route....1) he is crazy and unelectble...2) well I agree with what he is saying but he can't articulate it well 3) I like him but he can't stand up to Obamma in the debates like Romney or Newt. 4) I really like him but I don't know if he has a chance. Today when I talk to them the conversation was... How do you think your guy will do today? He seems to be doing pretty well. Do you think he will finish first or second? So he is slowly but surely getting his message out even though TPTB are fighting against him.
Funny; around my hometown in Iowa, all I see is Ron Paul signs. All others I can count on one hand! If I want MSM's opinion, I'll give it to 'em.
NYMEX wholesale gasoline approaching $3.00/gallon in January says Paul is eminently electable.
That and the overwhelming stench of corruption.
Average Joe'e everywhere can smell that stench, Jim. Ron Paul's popularity this year is just ONE argument against the notion that all Americans are stupid.
Other additional points that disprove Average Joe's stupidity:
1. He has left the non market market.
2. He no longer looks to the MSM for information
3. He has given birth to the Tea Party
4. His consumerism is down against historical averages
5. He buys silver and gold...not shares of AMZN
6. He buys guns [in world record quantities]
7. He has seen through the "magic" of President Zero
8. He still does NOT like Romney...third time around the block
9. His opinion of bankers is equal to his opinion of politicians
10..and so on...add your own
Man, lookit RAN Squawk now...'Pentagon says' no war with Iran....'US State department says' no war with Iran....'White House says' no war with Iran....
All in the same minute.
Shit there's gonna be a fuckin' WAR with IRAN!
Anyway, yeah, Joe Average ain't dumb and if he ever meets Mrs. Watanabe (the 'average Japanese investor') there's gonna be a lot of bunga bunga going down...and some sharp kids.
Bottom line--human nature ain't good or evil. It's FLEXIBLE. It responds to incentives. People do not want to live in an evil elitist global empire, but they do. It is a case of conflicting signals, cognitive dissonance, and the confused (seeming) behavior is actually a logical response to an increasingly illogical situation.
If Ron Paul or Barack Obama offers Joe A. a path to more sanity it will be taken....frankly Obama is going to whip the ass off any conventional GOP nominee. What might be really interesting is a brokered convention in wackyville, I mean Tampa, that leads to a 'Draft Bush' movement with Jeb and Condi Rice on a neocon wet dream ticket, plus Rovian Chaos and Dirty Tricks for the win!
Ahem...Happy New Year. God bless.
On War with Iran...don't really see it. Yes, the MSM and its minions are beating that drum for obvious reasons, but if it was at hand, the S&P would be a lot lower this morning...as the resulting price spike in oil would seal the deal on recession in the US.
That said, the criminal syndicate known as Wall Street has been selling this gap open since the opening bell, as they always do. Maybe just a case of needing more time to see the evidence emerge. It is true that the [non]market has zero forward looking ability.
In the wait and see camp...but if it comes, it will be a HUGE SELL SIGNAL. Light this crap candle, baby!
"President Zero" !!!!!
I love that.
Just look at all the talking heads that are members of the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations). Scary....
10 points for mentioning the CFR (Council on Foriegn Relations) Eveyone should know who these fucking scumbags are and who they represent.
If you do not know,Please take the time to find out,and let all your friends know about the scums.
EXPOSE them.
this I found to be quite interesting on the subject of the Rhodesian society and it's modern tool the CFR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrgrLrBCZI
on another note about "unelectabillity", this is quite laughable: "second in the polls?" - "scary in his views" ? the desperation is palpable. the MSNBC turd thinks his bile is is still "mainstream America" - arrogant prick: the people decide that, not the lamestream media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSVVi068S34
Newt and Clinton are CFR boys too.
Ron Paul tells people what they should hear, but don't want to.
That right there is enough reason for him not to be elected. This nation's best quality is the ability to look at a turd in the middle of the rug and say "what turd?"
Toss the junks at me, but if this nation was ready for Ron Paul, we wouldn't NEED Ron Paul.
pods
ehm yes, but lest you forget, you need government right now (in the form of Ron Paul to redirect the course towards fascism), to rid yourself of government in the future.
Me? Need? Do I really have a choice?
pods
Yes actually you do.
this article is a Guest Post, but is not noted as such. I also suggest a byline.
Format suggestion:
GP (Guest Post): Author Initials (if regular GP).
ZHers can then avoid authors they find repellant.
The participation of the voters is the least important step in the process.
Ron Paul is kicking ass. And his supporters are not likely to re-join the fold if he's not nominated. (Not that that matters to TPTB, but perhaps it would be a wakeup call to see a big Libertarian Party showing in the election if Paul doesn't get the nomination. Imagine Obama getting reelected with just 40% of the vote. Or Romney. Either way.)
Ron Paul and the price of gold:
Inconvenient truths? OR
Barbaric relics to be buried forever?
This whole unelectability issue is a complete farce. The only way the republicans are gonna win the general is by winning over independents and unsatisfied democrats. The only candidate that can win that vote is Ron Paul, without him as the nominee they dont stand a chance. He is the only one who understands that every government, even the US government, has the potential to be a tyrannical government. It is up to the citizens to be vigilante and ensure this doesn't happen. Repubs say his foreign policy is his weakest issue, but its just the opposite. The last thing the founding fathers wanted us to become is an empire. In fact, we fought the whole revolutionary war against an empire only to become that same empire. Hoping for the best tonight, for everyone's sake.
It seems to me that if the Amerikan sheeple are unable to figure out/care about what's going on right before their eyes, they don't deserve the likes of Ron Paul. When he speaks they're like: "STOP IT WITH THE TRUTH! *fingers in ears* lah, lah, lah, we can't hear you!"
It seems hard to believe but there was a time when I thought Michael Savage was an independent and not part of the republican machine.... It appears I was wrong.....
http://www.infowars.com/michael-savage-ron-paul-hates-jews-and-supports-terrorists/
Savage has been unlistenable for a while now. He was reading excerpts from his miserable attempt at a fiction book and then telling the audience what a great writer he is. Then he'd talk about his little dog Teddy. There's something creepy about old men with little lap dogs.
Meanwhile, Limbaugh is telling listeners today that Rick Santorum has a chance in Iowa because he has "values". Pennsylvania voted him out of his senate seat for a reason. He's corrupt and an idiot.
I haven't listened for a while. Probably one of the best moves I have done. I used to like to listen to both but I don't like people who try and form my opinion based on their bias. Give me the facts and I will form my own.
I've given up on all of them because it's obvious they are ganging up on RP and using their media footprint to spread disinfo. When they get caught lying so much, it has an impact on anyone who still tries to form their own opinions like you say.
It's become crystal clear who's part of the "war/propoganda machine" and who's not.
Yeah, I've given up on RL too.
Typical for CNBS...Cramer declared Ron Paul an "anti-semite" and "anti-black" this morning and asked the CNBS political reporter Harwood why he's doing so well. True to their bias, he reinforced the impression.
Cramer can choke himself with a pair of soiled underpants as far as I'm concerned.
A waste of underwear. He'll OD on coke one of these days.
Cancel your cable, tell them it is because of the biased MSM. You can live without the NFL and your wife can live without the Desperate Housewives. It's the least you can do for your country.
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Why would you include his idiot son? I am deeply concerned he would appoint the moron to a post of importance.
Great video that is even more relevant almost ten years later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLJGIzAlTHk&feature=channel_video_title
Mark Levin was especially viscious against RP on his "talk" show last night. Said Ron Paul was anti-semitic, blah blah blah. Meanwhile, he defends the Banksters. Wonder who sends him his talking points everyday?
2 words...1 name...
JOSEPH GOEBBELS
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A short question; isn't Ron Paul somewhat the other end of the scale ?
Which scale? If you mean measures of honesty, ethics, knowledge, intelligence or benevolence... then yes.
:-)
Wel I meant that where one end of the scale stand for control, Ron Paul would stand for absolute deregulation ? Which, as far as I know, probably wouldn't bode well for Joe sixpack either, no ?
Not making statements, just asking.
I've seen a short clip about Ron Paul and he seemed to be a true libertarian, Von Mises style. But, as any ideology, I like to think that no theoretical system is completely workable in practice. That's why I think systems evolve and revolve in the society as we know it. Paraphrasing Adam Smith; you have to protect any system from its own biggest advocates...
Theoretical systems can be perfectly workable in the real world, in accordance to the perfection of the theory in modeling the real world. What you're referring to though, is the corruptibility of any institution instantiated to embody/promote/protect the theory.
For example, there is absolutely no reason that the Misean theory of free-markets cannot work perfectly within society, as Praxeology is a value-free social science of observation. What cannot happen though, is for freedom to be institutionalized in an effort to protect it from itself. It will fail every time from the discord of incoherence.
Dr. Paul does not seek to create these systems (or any other) as a solution. What he does is to seek to remove them so that society can function without their incoherent, destructive constraints. In other words, there's no "system" to protect him from. All he wants is for people to be free.
Right on. How many people ever think about the inherent silliness of calling "freedom" a "system"? The whole idea of "freedom" is that every individual makes his own choices and decisions, and heads in whatever direction he decides.
In any normal meaning of the term "system", the "system" is coherent and controlled. That's the opposite of "freedom".
Of course, we all know there IS some very real order and feedback in freedom. People observe what actions other people take AND observe what consequences those people enjoy/bare/suffer as a result of those actions.
When people see someone take actions that repeatedly lead to beneficial consequences, they do tend to take actions that led to good consequences for others, and avoid taking actions that led to bad consequences for others. In doing so, they are simply observing causality as applied to human choices and actions. It really is amazing how few people value freedom today, especially in the USSA. And FRIGHTENING.
But how does one model the real world perfectly ? I'm somewhat inclined to think that the statement itself is an oxymoron...
I'm not sure why you consider the free-markets theory to be able to function within society; i seem to recollect that, as you state, Praxeology does not look at values or emotions. So for free markets to work, every human interaction should be entirely rational. How does one live in a world based on rationality ?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's a bad idea, I only think that you would require everyone to live with the same mindset if you want such a society to work. Which, in my view, is utopian.
So for free markets to work, every human interaction should be entirely rational. How does one live in a world based on rationality?
Non Sequitor -- check your premises.
Let's be clear. The neo-cons are actually neo-nazis. The establishment republicans and democrats are all neo-cons. Of course they will do ANYTHING to prevent Ron Paul from winning in the primaries or general election. The entire federal government of the USSA, as well as both political parties have been utterly and totally taken over by predators. Of all the candidates, only Ron Paul is not a predator, hence their intense hatred and endless lies and dirty tricks. Vote for Ron Paul. Otherwise, just leave the USSA, because otherwise you are just food for the pack of predators who plan to eat you alive, and most certainly will.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Mohandas Gandhi
If only we had a guarantee in this case.
If RP wins this caucus, I guarantee he's outta the race. Just ask President Huckabee and the other Rep winners of the Iowa caucuses for the past 30 yrs.
BWAHAHAHA!!!
Go Paul.
"...the Ministry of Propaganda's army of toadies, lackeys and media apparatchiks..."
I like that line. Yes. I am so sick of Rhino Republicrats and their polar myopic stridency. Get a grip, the RNC sold you out to the banks and war industry since at least 1995 and haven't stopped since then.
Ron Paul 2012.
1995? I must remark, Gingrich and 1995 seem to go together....hmmmm
1995? Try 1912, when Teddy's Bull Moose run was designed to split the electorate and throw the election to Wilson because Taft wasn't "Progressive" (read: Banksterish) enough.
If RP wins the nomination, watch for an "Independent" run by a Bloomberg, Guliani, Trump, or any other "conservative" looking (yet still socially liberal) celebrity. The only requirement as to "electability" will be how many eyeballs they can capture with their noise.
I wrote in Ron Paul for the last two presidential elections & will again in 2012...but Ron Paul himself pretty much said he was unelectable because Americans are too dependent on welfare & socialization.
It is obvious that the Media and the left want it to be Romney..they know Obama is going to lose...so they want the most liberal Republican to win...one that will crater with the Democrat tough tactics....Romney will..because he is a Politician..not a leader...a Republican Clinton...he cares more about how he looks and if people like him.....rather than doing what is right and making hard choices...
Prediction: Ron Paul will win Iowa,... but wait - he will finish a strong 2nd in New Hampshire. Why? New Hampshire is a closely nit state, that thinks [try as it might] very similar to neighboring Massachusetts [known to be a free-thinking quasi-metropolis of politically willed, and high-strung intellectual animals when it comes to the constitution,... now being shredded]!
the only reason brown [us senator via kennedy] won was his opponent took for granted the easy nomination being a democrat - she didn't even no who the red sox , and ne patriots were - this pathetic coakley that doesn't even know good law practices was a joke to begin with!
the people of massachusetts will not let this complacency get in their way again,... and as far as the newhampshirites, they "Love Freedom"!!!
TV news?
What's that?
TV and hollywood are for retards who support the elites and overlords. Moronic serfs being brainwashed in HD. IF you switch it on - you enpower your masters.
Tonight we find out if Americans have a brain
Tonight we find out if Iowans have a brain....... Fixed that for you. Usually by the time the primaries get to my state the candidates are chosen.
Ah yes, our biggest problem. Clearly few americans do have a brain, otherwise they wouldn't have allowed the past 100 years of blatant predatory behavior by members of the federal government of the USSA. It is welcome that as many as 10% seem to be partly waken up, but obviously that is no where near enough. We are at the point where about 80% of the population actually believes the endless claims of the neo-cons AKA neo-nazis that the USSA must forever be an overtly warmongering nation, and we all must be slaves with zero rights.
Ron Paul plays to packed houses of 500 or more in Iowa, the other 6 appear in Diners and Coffee Shops to groups of 20-30-40 people. Tells you all you need to know. If Ron Paul doesn't win decisively tonight, I'll have to conclude the vote counting was at least partially rigged.
"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)
What blacks think of Ron Paul (post 'racist' news letters)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA2ehvB-_Ac
Sorry MSM gona' have to come up with some other bullshit. Maybe calling him a martian trying to take over earth's Ronulite ore or something.
I'm pretty sure the black chick @ the 8:16 mark just took a bong hit.
Most pople on this forum are rulling for Ron.
Can some1 explain me what will happened if he gets elected...?
Will democrats bow down and will support him? ( no way), will republicans will support him ( no way)
So we will get the president who will give us mroe hopes about change without being able to implement them.
I support most of his idea's, but i don't see them to be even remotely implemented. ANd as for his Love for FED... I think FED gangsters are much stronger than any president in reality.
What people need to remember is, we don't want or need Ron Paul to IMPLEMENT much of anything. What we want is for Ron Paul to UN-implement most of what the federal government of the USSA is doing. What we need is NO federal government, or as close as possible to that.
I say this because it is often much easier to STOP or impede activities than implement them.
How Ron Paul keeps from being killed by the hyper-predator club that is the FederalReserve is another matter. Clearly his strategy is to let the FederalReserve continue to exist, but undercut them by eliminating taxation and prosecution of people for adopting gold as a currency and savings mechanism.
In principle, if he's hugely popular with the public, he can garner political support from the parties afraid to alienate the voters.
Heh.
When did we start wanting a government that did things.
The (veto) pen is mightier than the sword...
Ron Paul seems radical because he has apparently read and understood the Constitution. That's good enough for me.
How could someone junk you for your post? Probably a moron who voted for the muslim in 2008.
Ron Paul seems radical because he has apparently read and understood the Constitution. That's good enough for me.
The Ministry Of Propaganda Declares Ron Paul "Unelectable"
This is very true, even here in Norway the same USSA Media outlet crap is regurgitated (Not that I would expect them to start thinking for themselves)
Although I certainly would like to see the good doctor crossing the Potomac right IN THE FACE of msm I have to ask myself the following question:
"Is there a chance that the Amerikan population simply can't cope with a concept that involves making real changes?"
No, I don't think there's much of a chance either.
However, you state the choice incorrectly.
The USSA is headed over a huge cliff at warp speed, so the only ACTUAL choices are between making real, thoughtful, intelligent changes (RonPaul), or having a completely uncontrolled collapse (Obama).
Unfortunately, completely uncontrolled collapses have a history of almost always leading to even worse disaster.
CBC fuck head Michel Boulton or something like that ,is spewing the propaganda shit too.
He is the Canadian press for CBC in the White House.
Fucking puppet
Eat shit Mike.
CBC is the worst. Hard left and politically correct like the BBC. All TV is sh*t and all of hollywood is sh*t. i Full on 24x7x365 propaganda.
Canadians do simply LOVE their political-correctness --- it is practically a religion in Canada. It is for all practical purposes a punishable crime to even utter such innocuous words as "natives" or "Eskimos" there.
@LMAO, I hope Churchill's quote rings true, because we are looking over the abyss. "You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else. I think my country is at that point right now. Ron Paul 2012
classicallib17
I can only but hope for you and your country that this very point in history has arrived but tbh I have this eery feeling that "Emperor Palpatine" has ordered the construction of another Death Star.
If Ron Paul proves unelectable then the USA may prove to be unsaveable.
If Ron Paul does not win in 2012, the game is over. The USSA is FINISHED, meaning the [neo]-nazis (who are now called "neo-cons" AKA "most republicans and democrats") finally won. I already left the USSA to escape what is coming. If RonPaul doesn't win, everyone else who cares about honesty, ethics, justice, security, productivity and individualism had better hit the road too.
There is an option who will fight against the corruptos. He barely is mentioned, Buddy Roemer. He is rolling the dice on this ad over the next few days to push over 5% in the polls and finally be invited to the Jan 7 debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts-BtC_UqdA&feature=youtu.be
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act."
Ron Paul speaks the Truth too often to be acceptable in America. There is not a chance that the powers that be will let him come close to the presidency. They need someone who will keep the status quo - a permanent war for a permanent peace.
The US spends about 50% of the military spending in this world - it will be very bad news for the MIC if peace broke out.
It's gonna be Romney and Paul in IA and NH. But here's the kicker: Paul is now second in SC too! At that point it's clearly a two-man race. Then shit gets real interesting, real fast. I had SC figured as the GOP firewall against Paul; if it buckles, look out. Paul's got plenty of cash.
Two-person debates with Romney v. Paul? Priceless.
Romney should do well in the NE but in the south they are fervently religous, meaning they don't take kindly to the mormon religion. Ron Paul should do very well in the south. I've also heard he has lots of support in California and Texas and if he (Paul) can secure those states SHIT IS ON.
I wouldn't rule out a brokered convention which if my history is correct hasn't happened since Eisenhower. It's a fuckin' horse race right now.
Every Republican candidate that won SC has won the nomination. Every one! Watch SC VERY closely. If RP wins SC even the MSM will have a difficult time painting him as 'unelectable'.
Am very much hoping to see RP win the caucus tonight, just to show the masses what a farce the mainstream media is. But as much as I like Ron Paul, what we need more than RP for Prez is more members of Congress that think/vote like he does... the 'grumpy old man' image (not deserved, but is what it is) didn't work for Bob Dole, or John McCain, and it's not going to earn him the seat on the GOP ticket despite his many supporters because the GOP knows he cannot oust Obama in the general election. Think long term - get a couple more who embody this ideology into Congress on this go around, and perhaps a few more candidates are ready to upset the Republicrat duocracy in the next election cycle.
Previously, on "Grumpy Old Men..."
Romney? Obama? Now that is CHOICE you can believe in!
What a joke the so called Two Party democracy is. The elites pick two candidates for us to choose from and we get to vote for one or the other. This is all so USSR 1960's. Everybody gets a vote as long it is for a Communist Party approved candidate. What, you saying the USSR was not democratic? They voted didn't they?
Romney is the new select "golden boy" of the elites. Obama served his function, got the bankers bailed out and doubled down on the drone wars across the Muslim world, conquered Libya and killed Osama. Now he can serve as the guy we vote out to prove we have a choice. Then Romeny takes over and we get 8 years of Bushism.
Yes, keep saying "I have a vote, I have a vote, I have a vote!
The Powers That Be are crapping themselves over Ron Paul, "How did he get in there to run"?? "Must get rid of the trouble maker"!
RP is "radical" and "unelectable." simple review of his foreign policy views reflects that. Kudos to Mr. Paul, though, for his critique of the Fed and understanding of economics, yet his foreign policy views alone make him "unelectable." Supporters seemt owant to overlook his long history of outlandish comments and innuendos, so that they can grasp onto his economic/monetary views. That's fine for a congressional race but will never have lasting strength and endurance in a national, presidential campaign. 'dems are 'da facts!
By jingoism, let's kick Spain's @ss all over again!
What part of unecessary foreign-intervention do you NOT understand?
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I LOVE hearing that the media is trumpeting this, since in the end they will be humiliated. RP is the only real candidate. All the others are of one corrupt cloth. RP vs Obama - absolutely no contest. Paul will take him down faster than a Bud in the hands of a NASCAR fan on a hot summer day.
I so hope you are correct about people ignoring the mainstream media and voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. Unfortunately, I don't think enough people have waken up yet, and too many people are still influenced by the totally disingenuous lies against Ron Paul in the mainstream media.
On the other hand, I do believe Obama UTTERLY discredited himself by supporting bailouts, by prosecuting NOBODY in the banking industry, by destroying all individual liberties, by being the biggest warmonger in the history of mankind, by filling his administration with lobbyists, and endless other travesties.
So in an general election between Ron Paul and Barack Hussien Obama, I am hopeful Ron Paul would win. The honesty and benevolence contrast between RonPaul and Obama seems just way too stark for Obama to overcome. Now that people know where Obama stands for real, they can see that RonPaul is "hope for peace and prosperity" while Obama is "hope the country doesn't go completely broke fighting endless pointless wars".
CBC in Canada is Bitch slapping Ron Paul in the news too. Says he's a killer and will slice your childrens throats and drink thier blood.
Fuck You's CBC.......
ps...
Why is Mark Goldman Carney,the head of CANADA'S Central Bank..?
Would they rather have Newt?? He's a mess.
I've been noticing that too. Disgraceful. What's in it for Canada's MotherCorp? Licking Harper's boots for better budget allocations?
if he gets too close they'll do the same thing like they did to Bobby Kennedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRy2R10tgVI&feature=related
Hey look at this: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57351153/gingrich-mitt-romney-is-...
Of course Ron Paul's not even mentioned, CBS worthy, but interesting is the mud slinging. Are these two of "worthy stature" to be President?
Somehow, somebody needs to organize a movement to pass a new constitutional ammendment that requires at least 50% of the family and friends of everyone in congress who supports military actions to fight on the front lines.
Not just "be in the military", but actually fight on the front lines. If they're not willing to accept this, then they must not vote for these actions. Without such a provision, it seems the warmonger predators will forever dominate politics. If these cretins believe their fights are so important, let them put themselves, their families and their friends where their mouths and votes are. Let them die and be paralyzed.
Make them send their wallets. Americans have long shown a willingness to send their children off to die, but threaten to raise their taxes to pay for the war and they get all angry and belligerent. Never could figure that one out.
I wonder how different that would be if there was a DRAFT. One nasty side effect of a fully volunteer military is... people who would never risk their kids find it easy to support wars.
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus (519 BC – 430 BC) was an aristocrat and political figure of the Roman Republic, serving as consul in 460 BC and Roman dictator in 458 BC and 439 BC.[1]
Cincinnatus was regarded by the Romans, especially the aristocratic patrician class, as one of the heroes of early Rome and as a model of Roman virtue and simplicity.[citation needed] He was a persistent opponent of the plebeians.[citation needed] When his son was convicted and condemned to death, Cincinnatus was forced to live in humble circumstances, working on his own small farm, until an invasion caused him to be called to serve Rome as dictator, an office which he immediately resigned after completing his task of defeating the rivaling tribes of the Aequians, Sabines and Volscians.
His immediate resignation of his absolute authority with the end of the crisis has often been cited as an example of outstanding leadership, service to the greater good, civic virtue, and modesty.
Wow. These fukks are just aching for a revolution. French style.
I hate to say this but America deserves to get fucked in the ass with such blatant propaganda being allowed to be aired on the boob tube.
His mantra of "Let's just mind our own business" is music to my ears. Think of your own neighborhood - how many people are barging into your home telling you what to do and how to do it? Probably none, right? Kinda nice, huh? Well....
Wonderful. Sometimes less is more.
Is that a tail or a control wire coming out of..., oh never mind.
Why does Hillary C. look so surprised?!
The schism between Ron Paul and everyone else is sharply shown when looking at spending. Ron Paul is the only one looking to balance the budget and to do so quickly. He aims to cut $1 trillion more than everyone else the very first year.
The other major issue that shines the light on how Ron Paul has something other to offer that more deficit spending is his stance on Iran. Every presidential candidate, including Obama, is all too eager to start another war. Ron Paul wants to stop wasting money on endless wars and the occupation of US troops all around the world. He understands that if the US keeps going deeper into debt, ultimatetely the US will destroy itself.
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The media is pulling out all stops to discredit Ron Paul. They cannot have someone that wants to stop the fradualent bankster activities.
If both the left and the right hate him. He gets my vote.
+ 270
The Illuminati are running out of cool aide. More and more are finding out that the system is rigged between the two parties and high finance. It will get ugly soon.
The sooner the better.
The uglier the better.
Bring it on!
GO TO DRUDGEREPORT.COM
They have a presidential poll and Paul is winning by a small margin.
Already Did. Bu discount it if RP wins
They rounded up everyone else's numbers but RP. Nice
The Dip Shits on CNN actually said Ron Paul is outside the mainstream because...,
HE WANTS TO AUDIT THE FED!
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Hell, even my wife, who is a supposed independent that never votes republican, is asking if Ron Paul is the only real vote to make. That's saying something!
Only unelectable if you listen to the Ministry of prop. I choose not to.
It is as if the powers that be has mastered the art of venipuncture while losing the ability to do anything else!!! All they know how to do now is to suck the life blood out of the people.
" By equating the Civil Rights Act, which expanded American civil liberty, with the Patriot Act, which reduced it, on the grounds that both are federal laws with sanctions, Ron Paul displays the moral idiocy of someone who declares that a person who pushes a little old lady out of the path of a bus is just as bad as a person who pushes a little old lady into the path of a bus, because both are equally guilty of pushing little old ladies around.
Like other libertarians, Ron Paul does not understand American values. The American experiment is an experiment in creating and maintaining a democratic republic, not a minimal state. American political culture is founded not on the theories of Ayn Rand or Ludwig von Mises but on the reasoning of natural rights theorists like John Locke, for whom coercion in the service of communal self-defense is perfectly legitimate."
There is more.
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/03/race_liberty_and_ron_paul/
Sure, the financial system has become evil, and the war machine is too darn big. But his trick of tearing down the constitution to its bare bones and fleshing it out as he sees fit, skewers it in a completely different direction. It's a neat trick no doubt, lure you in on some core issues no other "leader" seems capable of addressing, but what a price to pay...look at the other sorry alternatives, it's the reason he's getting attention, but it's not the kind of deal I am willing to accept. We have money for enough arms to fend against a Klingon invasion, but it spares not a thought for me and 200 other lowly citizens who are destined to spend 3 hours today at the DMV.
wow, very well stated. Completely off the mark, but well stated none the less.
By tearing down the Constitution to its bare bones you get....well you get the meaning of the Constitution.
Thanks for your interpretation professor but I can read as well.
You are so totally disingenuous you are either completely clueless or a propagandist for neo-nazi neo-con new world order predators. Either way, how sad.
If you are just clueless, you obviously have NO FREAKING IDEA how astronomically the massive state holds you and other "poor folk" down. You obviously have no freaking idea how fast and far a human can rise in a free society.
In a free society you don't need a driver license, registration, insurance or other burdens of time and cost. You have an unlimited right to travel by whatever means you have. Ditto for endless other ways the predators-that-be and predator-class in a free society hold you down and keep you poor. Wake up and throw off your intellectual, physical and financial shackles!
Perhaps you need some edumacation...
Is that FEd at work?
Ron Paul is the Grass Roots..
Purposefully (by the media) made to seem.. to be the ONLY! Hope for “We the People” AGAINST! The onslaught by the Rich!
1. Austerity, is nothing more than another Tax Break for the Rich. It doesn’t matter if the Republicans and Democrats CONSPIRE! To shut down Government because of an imaginary Debt Ceiling or Ron Paul’s idea’s. There is no difference because the end result is the same.
2. These Rich people who have sold the wanna be rich the idea that Starving one of the most well armed group of citizens in the World is a GREAT Idea! A Hellava Way to be able to save Tax Dollars! History is full of stories about Hungry Armed People
Now telling yourselves LIES! About how this is different than that.. because it makes YOU FEEL GOOD! Is what you have been taught to do.. by the 5th Ave. Media Machine since you were very young!
Austerity will make people hungry and thusly giver everyone the right to go Zombie Hunting! Right?
It doesn’t matter how the people are made hungry or how the language from one document to another varies! The end result is Hunger.
Ron Paul is a WET! DREAM!! COME!!! TRUE!!!! FOR THE RICH!
Why? Because the Taxes for the Rich will NEVER! Be Raised! (the Democrats Proved that already)
And the belt tightening / austerity will flow downhill like shit always does! Thusly hungry poor people with nothing to lose and the internet to find just enough erroneous information to make them dangerous! Like Blaming the Jews for doing the WASP’s bidding / dirty work and thusly being vilified!
Don’t get me wrong, anyone to blame should be hung for treason.. but dumb rednecks are not going to be able to tell the difference between Bernie Sanders (Jew) Independent and Joe Bidden ( http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/bernie-sanders-filibusters-tax-cuts-now ) thusly Good People get Blamed for what a Few Bad People have been set up to look bad for.. 400,000 Jewish Protesters! Who are trying to fight the Zionists! ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnB3p9iN_Jc )
Jim-Bob in da woods is not going to give a rats ass about the difference.. and MOST! Of the information Provided by Google (Zionist owned) is that Jews (JOO’s) are BAD!
America is being Programmed to Hate America.. and when I say America I mean the majority of un-educated, ignorant Citizens of America are being Programmed (day and Night by Corporate Owned Media) to hate other segments and themselves. Good for Nothing! Government Assistance Receiving!! Sub 800 Credit Score Having!!! Wastes of Energy.
Once Iran is under control and the Sweet Lite Crude Supply is as stabilized as it can be.. there will be no use for all this extra stupid. The extra stupid will have played its part and it will be time to trim the fat. There is more Energy Conservation in getting rid of American’s and other 3rd World Un-Educated Trash than there is in Matching Fund Grid Scale Green Tech.. too be sure!
But once again! All of these facts don’t make anyone feel good!
We want to be right!
We want someone else to come in and save the day.. so we can watch dancing with the stars or post here on zerohedge about how smart we are.. as compared to the sheep!
America has a population explosion going on.. America is already a 3rd World Country for the Majority of Americans! I am guessing at least some of you have read enough to understand what the plans are for 3rd World, Population Explosion, Energy Consumers are.
Let the Ignorant Poor kill each other off! That will get rid of most of the Gene Pool that is tough enough to fight! And leave the more docile, easily controlled to manage!
The Rich will step in after the Poor kill enough of the Poor! Take their guns from them.. for their own protection.. saving them from themselves in the future! Thusly being the Saviors! Doing God’s Work! Protecting the sheep from the sheep in wolves clothing that was amongst them!
FEMA Camps maybe for the trouble makers after the Great American Kill Off! They wont have guns to protect themselves.. so off to the Camps!
Thank God for Wall Street Doing God’s Work..
Privatizing Prisons!
Privatizing the Army!
Thank God for Washington DC passing Laws that make all of this Legal! You Terrorists are worth almost $100,000 dollars a Year to House! PLUS!! The Free Labor that You Terrorists will be providing! No Judge! No Jury!! And Slaves! Lifetime Sentences without the Cost of a Trail!
And for all of you that won’t work! Well let’s see how tuff you are when they water board your wife or kids! You Terrorists will work! One way or another!
And for all of you thinking the Liberal Democrats were going to save the Country! With ALL THAT HOPE AND CHANGE!! Surprise!! LULZ!
AND!! Just for shits and giggles.. lets say Ron Paul.. does MAN! UP!! And do the right thing for the People of America.
JFK came from a Billionaire Family back in then.. a Good Family, with all the right friends and ties.. and the Secret Service stood down, still! ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8 )
But for some reason.. if Ron Paul could get around the Votes of ALL the Congress / Senate Lobby Whores! And do the right thing.. that he would Survive the Secret Service Standing Down?
You really think he would be alive for any real amount of time? Or long enough to cause any real damage to the system?
The top 0.01% of America provide 80% of the Lobby Dollars for Washington DC. Like George Carlin said, they long ago bought and paid for everything and everyone.. and they OWN YOU!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXWzSwZ_wPs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJmYnHdvsc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SibF7GIOiSU
Rob Paul can NOT! Beat Congress and the Senate.
Ron Paul wants AUSTERITY!
And if Ron Paul did for some reason start to do the right thing? Or! If Rob Paul was Helping the Majority of Americans.. the Working Class and the Poor! Ron Paul would have his brains blown out! Just Like Kennedy, Martin Luther, Malcolm X...
WAKE UP!
“We the People” Lost a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG! Time!! Ago!!!
Now go ignore the facts and spew your feelings of grandeur’ all over each other.. until you forget about all the ugly facts I just reminded you of.. cause I have not said anything that MOST! Of you here don’t already know! Providing Hope to People is a Nobel thing.. but I am fresh out of Nobel this Year!
I'm shocked to learn there are Jews in Florida...
JW,
You should just crawl in a hole with your binky and cry.
If it is so hopeless for the 99.99% who aren't the elite, then why don't you dig a hole, climb in, and cover yourself up? Why try to destroy even the faintest possibility that something better might happen? You are one sad dude!
"president zero" !!!!!
I love that.
wait I thought the only time somebody was "unelectable" was if they didn't put their name on the ballot, are DQ'd, or is dead.
as far as I know RP is on the ballot, meets the legal requirements to be president, and is indeed among the living.
so I guess that makes him very much electable doesn't it? because if enough people vote for him than well, he gets elected.
so you see, media whores, the people are free to vote for whomever the choose, and yes I realize the pickings are slim and largely the GOP field does not represent much hope for any change as TOTUS Romney will be no different from TOTUS Obama. still, the point is you succeed in doing nothing more than accenting your own false, empty, soulless, arrogant irrelevance when you declare somebody unelectable when the American public has yet to decide the issue.
unless of course you are saying that American votes shouldn't actually count, and it is you media whores, who should be entrusted with the responsibility of deciding who leads this nation. and voting should be largely ceremonial, some silly and ancient relic from the past, that much like the constitution holds no relevance in this modern society. because as is the prevailing attitude these days among the elite, the surfs just can't be trusted with such important decisions.
unless of course you are saying that American votes shouldn't actually count, and it is you media whores, who should be entrusted with the responsibility of deciding who leads this nation. And voting should be largely ceremonial, some silly and ancient relic from the past, that much like the constitution holds no relevance in this modern society. Because as is the prevailing attitude these days among the elite, the surfs[sic] just can't be trusted with such important decisions.
Bam! Nail, meet the Hammer known as MarcusFenix
Ron Paul is unelectable. The white house can't run on the economy, so what's left. All that's left is divisive politics, or the race card. They hope and pray the GOP nominates an old white guy with financial ties to racist groups and conspiracy groups who also released racist newsletters years ago. However, the GOP field is far from inspirational, so........I'm fairly sure that Obama is going to get his second term no matter who wins the GOP nomination.
Of course RP is unelectable.
He was not born in the USA and has refused to provide his long form birth certificate, instead showing a photoshopped certificate.
The guy who's not electable is Trump. His hair was not born in the United States.