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Mitt Romney Responds To SCOTUS Upholding Of Obamacare
While the president will will take to the podium in 30 minutes (so realistically 60) his challenger is up now. Watch live as he spins the largely unexpected SCOTUS decision on the Affordable Care Act.
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Gotta love CPT. Whats mittens gonna say?
Romney will save us all right.
Will they have free Obamacare in the FEMA camps?
Yeah, but the treatment for all conditions will be a trip to the showers.
Hey, that'll count as a colonoscopy and prostate exam under the new plans.
No, more like chemotherapy.
Lemme guess, Romneybot is both outraged and thrilled at the prospects.
Amirite?
I dunno - which chemical companies does he own stock in?
Quickly followed by, which chemical companies own stock in him?
Mitt Romney forced everyone filing taxes in Massachusetts to prove they paid for healthcare.
This guy is like republican version of John Kerry.
We can't afford this.....we can't afford that.......(rings wrists)
BLAM! It's ROBOMNEYCARE, BITCHEZ!!
Boy, look at those stupid Europeans with their sclerotic welfare states. They are doomed to go bankrupt and collapse. I'm glad we Americans have a free market capitalism and uhhhh..............
WHAM!!! BLAM!!! IT'S ROBOMNEYCARE, BITCHEZ!!
I'm buying Monsanto stock. I'm sure they will get the Zyklon B contract.
John Roberts. Your Godmother is calling. She wants her candle back.
This is political theatre to get Romney elected. This act is about creating anger and dispair. Next act is to overthrow the current corrupt emperor with a new and improved corrupt emperor promising to restore your faith in the American dream.
+100 The Tea Party will come back roaring. This was a calculated, provocative act by CJ Roberts.
STOP IT! Just STOP IT. You are being delusional. I was 100% Tea Party, it was overtaken by NeoCons and ended up being a failure. It was a steam valve.
All institutions by their very nature are corruptible (via the collective embodying the individuals within).
Even if they start out "grass-roots," well, that just means that the heavy lifting is done in advance for the agent provocateurs that emerge to "lead" it. (Palin, et al., for instance, in your example.)
It's why I'm convinced that social harmony lies completely within the realm of individuals and their relationships with each other (a.k.a., "the web that has no weaver"). First, one must harmonize with self (striving to eliminate cognitive dissonance), then with family, and finally, with friends in the community. It is from these voluntary bonds, from which all larger-scale social growth emerges.
It's what got us this far, in spite of all the efforts of the social movers and shakers.
This is about divide and conquer on BOTH sides. The more angry the "Right" gets, the more support the "Left" gives to Obummer.
The worst possible outcome for TPTB is an "apathetic" electorate. Remember, they've got no steak, so selling the sizzle is that much harder.
It's the mostest importantist selection EVARRRRRR!!!!!!
Im so sick of Big Government Conservatives. Butt out of my life assholes.
Romney: "Obama's corporatism isn't corporate enough for me! We need a more corporatist solution!"
That's why we need Romney. He has the Wall Street experience to go full corporatist.
Not to worry of course they will. They will use the miracle drug Zyklon B for all that ails you. One dose and all your problems are over. Ah hell that ain't even funny. I'm so depressed my sense of humor isn't working at all. Nothing's funny or good today. FU SCOTUS. FU LIBERALS. FU DEMOCRATS. AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!!!
Zipper, meet head. Mittens is planning The Sandusky Manouver on " The American People ". My question is - who the fuck are these " American People " that all politicians seem to know so intimately, and also know beyond the shadow of a doubt " What Is Best For - The American People " If politics is any indicator, the mysterious " American People " is a group of psychotic neurotic prescription drug addicted one tenth of one percenters with not enough brain cells left over to power up a decent shit house rat.
dude, you're just getting warmed up,
tell it all!
How about changing your legal name to The American People and starting a blog to reply to all the BS that's said about you...
Fuck Mittens.
We're so fucked.
Another Govt program we can't afford
He'll condemn the very same thing he supported as Gov of Mass. but he'll say it in a way that makes it sound like Obama (or maybe even Clinton) is to blame for his own policy.
No, you'll hear the word federal alot. It's a state vs. federal thing.
That's racist!
The monster was allowed to stand.
http://jimrickards.blogspot.ca/
Obomney 2012
... he organized a successful Olympics, right?
No, but he beat two trees in the special olympics...
Time to pretend you have a choice!
John Jackson: "It's time someone had the courage to stand up and say: I'm against those things that everybody hates."
Jack Johnson: "Now, I respect my opponent. I think he's a good man. But quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said."
John Jackson: "I say your three cent titanium tax goes too far."
Jack Johnson: "And I say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too far enough."
Groening is a globalist btw and this is predictive programming and relevation of the method as well
SPINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
"Allow Morbo to introduce tonight's candidates:
Boring Human #1;
Boring Human #2;
and Morbo's good friend: Richard Nixon!"
He HE I am going to love 14% tax code boy squirm!
What can one say, if the lemmings want to commit suicide, so be it.
Those dead lemmings just better pay for the ambulance in advance, that's all.
Raw-money 2012!!!!
Is that how you pronounce it?
The other bank/corporate candidate speaks...
So what are your details motherfucker? How did Romney care work for MA again?
Fuck it, time to bet on the financial houses, corporations, and banks, winning in 2012 - again. Bailouts will follow.
Wake the fuck up people, NO corporation or insurance company (the real winners here) can guarrantee your health, only you can. Bad behavior will continue to be rewarded.
This is what naked tyranny looks like you dumb mother fuckers.
false left/right paradigm ful lof stabled puppets and an electorate full of sheeple = ULTIMATE POLITICAL WEAPON
Our "democracy" is an openly celebrated political duopoly of ostensibly opposing sides. It's what we do--it wouldn't be American if it were any other way. Hell, it makes me squirm to even think about having it any other way.
Now that's good marketing.
im going to force you to buy cupcakes and healthcare, its an over-unity energy system of debt and destruction
WHEEEEEE
Wait, John Roberts upheld a law written by the Heritage Foundation for a state Mitt Romney was once a Governor of?
You're fuckin' kidding me.
You're off message.
Time for Ramney to pretend he will repeal Bammycare.
pretty much all that will happen
here is a football to keep people distracted when, either way, they are going to be royally fucked in the ass by one form of tyranny or another
you can spin a top but it wont really go anywhere (Problem 2012)
The ruling just speeds up the crash. The math as ZH has pointed out time and time again does not add up.
that's why its probably better to re-elect the Unicorn Prince for another term - hasten the collapse. its coming anyways, why drag it out a couple more years with a brave new administration and Congress that bravely slows the rate of spending growth?
Slows the rate of spending growth???
You must be from an alternate universe.
He wasn't nearly strong or forceful enough.
He tiptoed around the Supine Court, and John Roberts the traitor to the constitution.
He must have gotten some phone calls from the insurance industry promising more $$$ for the campaign.
Since coming to America in the 1840's from England, no Romney has ever worn any uniform, been in any military.service nor ever fought for America. No his five strapping sons. The Romneys are all about LDS,LLC, and money. Think Bush without the patriotism.
Ummm.... I'm having a hard enough time thinking of a Bush with patriotism.
They went in to create a war-hero persona for their political careers.
Perhaps as an ignorant Brit who does not understand the American system one of you could enlighten me. What part of the Constitution gives the federal government the power to impose socialism?
That would be the part you can't read because to do so would jeopardize national security.
Please note: The mere fact that you have asked that question now opens you up to special rendition as a potential terrorist, Mr Buttle.
Buttle??
With a "B"? Uh oh......I thought his name was Tuttle.
Mistakes? We don't make mistakes!
The same part of the Constitution where it says 9 fucking lawyers are the ultimate arbiters of what the people can and cannot do. You know: the part written in invisible ink, that only the learned scholars can see.
It doesn't and that is part of the reason Obama will be voted out in my opinion. Obama was able to appoint two very liberal supreme court judges in the past three yrs and that led in part to the ruling. Also, small business in America will no longer form because of this ruling. Once this law is completely implemented the cost will be so enormous that the US debt will be no different than the rest of Europe and I would expect multiple downgrades of our debt in the years ahead. It's a complete disaster waiting to unfold.
Really, I think that's a major goal, or at the very least a "happy" (for the powers) byproduct of all this shit. Small business is freedom, independent, and hard to control. Big business means regimentation, campaign contributions, closed circles and all the tools of fascism / totalitarianism.
While you are correct about the goal being to squash small business, Big Business already had all the tools of fascism. They didn't gain much IMHO that didn't already have.
"...small business in America will no longer form because of this ruling..."
Bullshit. I run a small biz (in fact in healthcare), and was able to bring in a partner over a Connectiut competitor because in Mass his wife's pre-existing condition would be covered. He was unwilling (he said "unable") to leave his previous job for the CT gig, because he was unsure the CT place's insurance would cover the pre-existing. (It would have under COBRA, and I told him that, but he wasn't convinced.)
In fact, one of the impediments to leaving an existing job, and starting out on your own, is concern about being able to provide health insurance for your family if your biz fails. This concern is mainly for those who are starting small businesses; corporate jobs you can always get covered on their big group plan. If you have a family member who's got a long-term illness, one of the parents always has to keep the 'safety' job, because otherwise you risk losing coverage. If you haven't had conversations like this, with friends and neighbors over the years, you're either 1) deaf/deluded or 2) live in Mass.
John Roberts the swing vote was nominated by a man named Bush.
Most positive rights have been slipped in or upheld under the commerce clause and the general welfare clause. Roberts said the commerce clause is passe so we'll just call it an arbitrary tax which is now ok if applied equally to everyone under the law.
Don't blame Roberts. At least, not until you can explain how Scalia justifies upholding Federal commerce-clause regulation of homegrown medical marijuana in Gonzales v Raich, whilst apparently voting to strike down the individual mandate. To me, it stinks of political expediency.
The hipster-politician clause. You've probably never heard of it.
Hello friend across the pond.
You mean that "G-D piece of Paper" the previous dictator declared was no longer meaningful?
Who profits in war?
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Romney responds? Romneycare was the f**ing model for this crap. He needs to STFU.
bloomberg echo!
Frankly IMO
this was the best ruling that could have come down.
Why? It pretty much ensures two things -
1. The precedent has now been set for Coporate strip mining of personal income.
E.G. the government now has the authority to compel any corporate commerce or fine you for non compliance.
This will accelerate the destruction of the middle class.
2. This ruling ensures we are not going to reign in government medical spending and as such it shortens
the time until economic collapse.
Face it, we ARE NOT going to stop state expansion, nor are we going to stop the MIC from concentrating power.
At this point the only hope is to ensure the collapse happens as SOON as possible.
Sad but true.
Yeah, great, but what if feudalism is the reset?
There's an alternative?
Anyway, who cares? I'm already getting "property of" t-shirts printed up for my subjects. Just have to decide whether I'm going to be a Grand Duke, an Archduke, or a Tyrant.
Humongous will do. Your motto will be "I feel your pain."
Another of our mottos will be "our nos beats your blower."
And another "come for the gay sex, stay for the gang rape!" Although that has a rather Republican air to it.
Hey what are you worried about you've got slack right?????
Seriously feudalism is coming regardless. Sadly it seems to be most of mankind's preferred state of being.
Question is how many truly believe in the "it's better to die on your feet than live on your knees"?
The recurring theme throughout history seems to be
1. a civilization starts off with minimal rules.
2. This allows for growth and success
3. Excess follows
4. Decay and destruction usually brought upon from within along with a reduction in freedom
5. Liberty minded "producers" leave for freer climes
6 rinse and repeat
Problem is we do not currently have the big escape valve open yet. When/if we get cheap space travel we will have another large frontier just like america was in the 18th century. Until then it's probably going to get bloody.
There's no new New World, 'cept maybe a "Brave New World" in our heads. God.
Assuming we do not destroy ourselves first, once we get practical travel within the solar system there will be another golden age of expansion. The sheer amount of free resouces (think asteroids) available will guarantee it.
Wow!
Love this esoterism...
What if...all the horizontal distractions ARE actually that. Distractions from what might come from say...the vertical aspect?
Nice.
Open discussion invite to all our esteemed thinkers and contributors here.
If you knew that say...an asteroid the size of Rhode Island was on a collision course with the planet Earth later this year(fall) the question for you is; what would be your highest priorities at this moment and advancing on to the well known date?
Thanks in advance for any for your world wide serious thoughts.
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Not sure what you meant exactly.
My point was that freedom is found on the "uncivilized" periphery. E.G. where the self sufficient move to as the state has not had a chance to take root there.
Pretty much the only places left that meet that description are the bottom of the oceans and outer space.
If we get to space and exploration follows previous patterns, there will come a time when the nations will be unable or unwilling to project their military power while commerce grows relatively unfettered.
As for your question, an asteroid the size of rhode island would be a planet killer. Nowhere to run or hide. I suppose you could try a really deep cave but even then I doubt you'd survive.
I have to admit, my first reaction to the ruling was to realize that Cloward-Piven is now a libertarian strategy. Overload the system to force an end to it.
Tomorrow I'm going to call social services and see what goodies I can procure from Daddy Government.
Christ on a goddamn spike. We're epic epic fucked. The merger of state and corporate power, right out in front of everyone. Even the People Magazine, Direct TV, gimme my corn syrup, coma walkers should be able to see this one for what it is. You will grovel to your Pharma and Insurance Masters, SLAVE. Bow before the drug pushing whitecoat priesthood.
"Whatever Israel wants."
-Nit Rummy
ZH been down for anyone else for the last 30 minutes or so?
No, but when the ruling came out it was slow.
Perhaps it is your local internet being a little flooded?
Just a glitch in the matrix while all your packets are perma-rerouted through a fusion center.
L0L!!!
fire up the bongs for fuu, BiCheZ!
Don't cry for me Sausalito.
It's down for me right now.
Mitt "the Grandfather of Obamacare" Romney. He made a huge bet on SCOTUS canning OC. Lots of loud talk. "No HC, Obama's done NOTHING!", etc, etc. Opps! Bet he shit his "magic undies" when he heard. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall.
Obama 52 Romney 48 come 11/7.
Seems obama can't lose at this point... if they upheld it, then we get 4 more under him... if not, then they were paving the way for mittens... we'll see how close to election barry decides to fire up the money drops to seal the deal.
Romney is a joke. If anything, he'll protect ObamaCare.
It's all words w/o meaning.
Pepsi Coke. Dumb & Dumber. Fuck the Constitution. Game on!
Manipulating the markets to drive political elections is the OKI. Too bad people still fall for it.
I see Brian Sack is doing one last 10:45am stick save for old time sake.
What about tomorrow? Or will he watch the new guy do it?
maybe the government will start releasing the cures in 5 yrs??
Luvz me some Romney.
As for now, I will need to leave to go get in line to get my NObama Care Card. Then, I will go get my NObama Phone.
After that, I will call my travel agent to get me the FUCK out of this country.
I expected this outcome, even though the mandate is unconstituitional. What was the Supreme court going to do throw it out and have riots in the country, no way! Rule of law was cast aside and I knew it would be. The insurance companies will become the new bankers!
By SCOTUS actually CHANGING the verbiage of the actual Bill,is the part that blows my mind.
How can you interpret Mandate, and re-word the legislation as a TAX?.
SCOTUS in passing the mandate, basically changed the legislations actual wording,and meaning.
Dos we no longer have an independent supreme court in this country. I expected this. I am upset by the re-write on page 16. Now we can be screwed by Congress with anything basically when they site article 10. What will be interesting is the striking down of the state mandates with medicaid. There is really nothing we can do about this piss poor legislation written by insurance companies. So I am not going to loose any sleep over it. We all know voting is not going to change a dam thing. If it did I would be voting out my congress person if they voted for it and I disagreed with the legislation.
"I have been studying the Supreme Court ruling on the Universal Medicaid system, otherwise known as SCROTUMS, very carefully".
- Nit Rummy
Oh Thank You. This made me smile. Pretty funny.
Romney's statement does not go far enough unless he breathes fire on this issue identifying it not as a "bad law" that needs to be replaced with a "new law," but that this is socialist tyranny. When he says that, the base will ignite.
The votes by the Supreme Court to uphold Obama healthcare and open borders are completely political. This is why a liberal wing and a conservative wing can be identified on the court. Why aren’t there nine justices trying to determine if a law is constitutional or not? It’s because the liberals – Ruth Ginsberg, Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor and Steve Breyer -are dependable, predictable votes.
There never is any doubt where the four liberals (three Jewish and one Latin) are going to vote on any issue. It’s for corrupt, repressive collectivism. . And, now, Bush appointee Roberts has turned out to be a collectivist-welfare-wolf in individual-liberty-sheep’s clothing. He opposes the “mandate” when it’s a penalty but supports it as a tax. Translation: the government can now force you to buy a $30,000 hybrid car if you want to drive on federal roads or you can choose to stay home and pay $30,000 in taxes.
This means that the political system of two parties, and their procedure to produce a president who will appoint Supreme Court people based on politics, is now unworkable. It is the destruction of all the country has known of individual freedom and individual enterprise. You can place it on the back of a “two party system” that now is completely corrupt. And if you don’t think that it is, look at the two people running for president and the one man who could fix it being eliminated.
They are all carrying out their modern totalitarianism in the very name of liberty and democracy while building their “Road to Serfdom,” opening the way for the more openly Marxist phalanx.
This week underscores what it is like to appoint political people to the court. The provisions of the Constitution are meaningless when you have the likes of Kagans, Sotomayors, Ginsbergs, Breyers and dependable swingcoats from the “conservative” side for the power elite’s repressive collectivist cause. They are going to vote for socialism regardless of what the Constitution says. The Republicans at least go back and forth; these people never miss.
I have not read it and I was certainly hoping for an overrule, but Roberts did two good things: 1) he said the commerce power could not extend far enough to cover this mess. Good because we have never had limits on commerce power since FDR; and 2) he upheld it as valid only under the tax power. Good since it means Obama passed massive tax on middle class; Obama expressly said it was not a tax so Obama lied and is on tape as lying about this very issue in an inteview with Stephanopolous and now R's and Teaparty can campaign against the biggest and worst tax increase in history. This means Obama is done in November.
I think Obamacare sucks, but I gotta say, your analysis is great. Thanks for contributing.
we have never had limits on commerce power since FDR
I wish I had your faith. Of the dissenting conservative justices, Thomas was the only one who also dissented in Gonzales v Raich.
tax units your health is the property of .gov..tax units submit written proof of ins or we will confiscate any and all assets. healthIRS thanks you.
The bloomberg lady is such an Obama shill, i can't listen to a word coming out her mouth, where do they find them ?? Bloomberg was supposed to be a serious channel !!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVAHD. Roberts/BHO/Romney. See a pattern? "A fine is a tax." What bullshit!! Anything to keep the wheels turning in the "right" direction, that is, towards crushing individual freedoms, keeping deep-pocket industries happy, and making the Constitution into the legal equivalent of a rubber poked with a safety pin! Damnable outrage!
FUCK THEM ALL, VERY MUCH!
The Blood-Sucking Vampire Capitalist MAFIA has suffered a minor setback today. Yes, it is possible that in two or three years fewer than 16,000 Californians will die each year because 'quality' healthcare is primaily a function of class status, thus assuring that International psychopaths like Dick Cheney are allowed to survive for as long as possible.
However, the overall MASTER PLAN to "reduce the excess population" is hardly diminished.
The Sock-Puppet Political Class at the HEART of the EVIL EMPIRE won a highly significant victory earlier this week by the same FEDERALIST SOCIETY clique and the concept of the CORPORATION being the same as a human being, with concurrent limited legal liability, has become even more institutionalized. (Of course, belief in this 'concept' being a clear indication of criminal pathology)
The 'FREE LUNCH' system of unlimited CO2 emissions is unchallenged. (except in Australia) The first 'tipping-point of Climate Change' as defined by Allianz Insurance of Switzerland, is rapidly approaching or has already occured in the Amazon River basin. (This will obviously 'reduce the excess population' of the indentured classes, whether they have health insurance or not)
The unfettered Derivatives "MARKET" is intact so that the Blood-Sucking Vampire MAFIA Godfathers can continue to wreak 'CREATIVE DESTRUCTION' on slected populations at will.
The simultaneous 'GREAT GAME' strategy of 'DIVIDE and CONQUER' to gain complete control of ALL oil and natural gas supplies in the world is progressing very successfully as a result of the diligence of the 'National Security State Imperial Guard'
So today's 'decision' is merely a crumb from the table thrown to the masses to keep them distracted from the impending Catastrophic events.
"you're and Idiot Babe, I'm amazrd you still know how to breath" Bob Dylan, Idiot Wind.
"IDIOTS RULE" Jane's Addiction
Mitt is simply unable to articulate ANY alternative to ACA...or what he'd propose on most of the other issues facing America. His only platform is that he's against what the other party wants to do.
Voting for this guy is like voting for the Tooth Fairy.
perhaps this is why Roberts , supposedly flipped sides
A conservative, a moderate, and a liberal walk into a bar.
The bartender says" hello Mitt"
Regardless, Obamacare is loaded with taxes (wealth redistribution), covers illegal immigrants, adds 35 million to the roles W/O new doctors, etc.
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/imf-to-discuss-greece-re-negotiating-debt-france-and-us-should-pay-close-attention-particularly-after-supreme-court-upholds-obamacare/
do you have any doubt that Romney will betray?
So Romney is against RomneyCare ?
I want some FEMALEGALCARE ! FEMA legal care ? No ! Female-Gal-Care ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad We Give Blue Chip Stamps .... redeemable for Viagara !
Obamacare is an outragous attempt to foist a Soviet-style socialist health care system onto the American public. Romney recognizes the fact that in this country good health should NOT be a birth-right - it is a PRIVILEGE - and a privilege that should only be available to those who are hardworking, wealthy, and smart enough to pay for their own insurance.
We should not try and emulate socialist hell-holes like Australia, Canada or Sweden where every dead-beat can access free public health systems regardless of whether they've saved up to pay for it or not.
This nation got to be great through people standing on their own two feet and taking responsibility for their own health and wellbeing. Not one dime of our taxes should go towards supporting socialized free health care for those too lazy, poor, old, disabled or stupid to look after themselves.
Romney’s pledge to abolish Obamacare is only a start. He also needs to commit to ending all other existing socialist programs in this country including Medicare, VA, Medicaid and Social Security. These government-run programs are just pandering to people's laziness and lack of personal responsibility.
Medicare in particular is the worst socialist program ever introduced in this country (by another lefty Dem President - Lyndon Johnson in 1965). It's a single payer government run program funded from taxes paid by you and me - to support old sick people we don't even know!
Back in the '60s the GOP fought long and hard to prevent this communistic system becoming law. As Ronald Reagan said at the time the Dems were trying to force this thing through "If you and I don’t stop Medicare then one of these days we are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”
George HW Bush Described Medicare in 1964 as “socialized medicine at its worst” and. Same with Barry Goldwater who said: "Having given our pensioners their medical care in kind, why not food baskets, why not public housing accommodations, why not vacation resorts, why not a ration of cigarettes for those who smoke and of beer for those who drink.”
Social Security is another communist program that needs to be abolished right now. The U.S. Social Security program is the largest government program in the world and the single greatest expenditure in the federal budget, accounting for 20.8% of the total budget?! And what is 'social security' ? It’s nothing but a program to take hard-earned money from the likes of you and me to allow lazy old people who didn't bother to save for their retirement during their working years to live high on the hog.
Nothing worse than creating programs like this which give lazy people a sense of entitlement.
So good on Romney for committing to the repeal of Obamacare. Now I just hope he goes that necessary step further and commits to the unwinding the other socialist and communistical atrocities such as Social Security, Medicare, Medicade and VA - which are also totally unconstitutional and anti-American.
The Unaffordable Tax Act.