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The MK2 Grenade: Mike Krieger And Max Keiser Take On The World Of Financial Crime

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There is a reason why WWII legendary "pineapple" grenade bore the initials MK2. Those who enjoy the works of Mike Krieger and Max Keiser are in for a treat, with this 2 for the price of 1 (technically for the price of zero) interview of Krieger by Keiser, as the MKs of the world unite, and take on financial fraud.

From Mike Krieger of Libertyblitzkrieg:

In case you missed it, Josh Brown recently published a list via the Huffington Post of what he believes are the 25 most dangerous people in financial media.  He definitely got the first two slots correct.  At the very top are Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert, who unrelentingly publish their “Financial War Reports” daily here.  At the number two position, is Zerohedge, the best financial site on the web.  I have been fortunate enough to have collaborated with Max, Stacy and Zerohedge for the past two years and it has been an extremely rewarding experience.  To get to the point, below is my just released latest interview on the Keiser Report.  I think it’s the best one we’ve done in a while.  Enjoy!


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Sun, 07/01/2012 - 17:48 | 2579246 Seize Mars
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I thought Mike Kreiger and Max Kaiser were the same thing.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:36 | 2579367 BlackGoldTexasTea
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Max Keiser is Mike Krieger's Tyler Durden.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:08 | 2579410 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Krieger ain't shit.  Just because Durden, who only publishes people who are or were once known to be in finance, gives him a page does not make his articles worthwhile.  Krieger writes long winded boring tomes with no absolute action.

Keiser on the other hand takes action.  Yes he does!  He uses other people's ideas and calls them his own.  He thought to boycott coca-cola.  How did that work out?  Then he admittedly uses the idea that I came up with, "Buy Silver - Crash JPM"TM but doesn't give the whole picture.  Does he talk about how silver trades with oil 1:1 which trades inversely the dollar which would take the dollar and all of finance down with it, including the MIC?  No.  Does Durden ever mention who really came up with the idea?

These men are not financial warriors, they are children running around spinning in circles yelling "I'm dizzy!".  They don't fight the good fight.  When has Tyler ever backed the Movement?  He hasn't.  When has Keiser admitted he is a fraud?

Why don't we have some more bullshit articles on Zero Hedge about how stocks do this or that, and how awesome Krieger and Keiser are.  That will help our cause.  Yeah, that's the ticket!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:42 | 2579458 LowProfile
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Fuck Google - and every other company that benifited from starting here that doesn't stand up for the rights of the citizens of this country.

These assholes are proving as clueless as the media companies.  THEY didn't stand up for our rights, and instead encouraged and colluded with TPTB to erode our rights.  Now they want us to stand up for THEIR intellectual property rights?!?!?!  FUCK YOU.


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Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:25 | 2579663 Element
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Thanks for that LP

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 01:07 | 2579883 SumSUN
Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:21 | 2579516 Marginal Call
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That's quite the rebuttal to Hendrix's post.  He made a bold statement, with some merit that is quite worth of debate.  And you have added to it mightily.


Thread jacking makes for unreadable comment sections and breaks down real discussion. 

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:21 | 2579433 Short Memories
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Sounds like someones got a case of the Monday's!


Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:31 | 2579445 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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No, I just know what it feels like to have someone jack your idea and do a worthless job explaining it.  And all you bitches that are junking me need to man up and fight me if you got any nuts.  I'm right here.

Also it is funny listening to Max Keiser talk about people stealing.  LOL!  Max Keiser!  What a hoser.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:57 | 2579625 Ivanovich
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I just junked you because it's obvious that it's driving you nuts :)

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 00:44 | 2579855 peekcrackers
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why mark down Mr lennon Herdrix ?

I think he has balls to make that claim , Marking him down in my eyes is being a bitch . Give him a debate.


Mon, 07/02/2012 - 07:41 | 2580125 francis_sawyer
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no junks from francis_sawyer...

From my perch (in the basement), LH gets the nod for the BUY SILVER campaign... Irrespective of what's transpired since, the idea still has merit...

LH = 1

MK = 0

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:36 | 2579453 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Why are you bitches junking me and not fighting me?  What did I write you don't agree with?  You think Krieger says new stuff?  I am listening to his interview right now.  Bla bla bla this, bla bla that.  And Keiser is a carnival barker.  Do you worship a carnival barker?  Do you worship any man?  Why are you junking me?  SPEAK UP!!!

Mike Krieger still has a lot of contacts on WS.  LOL, no wonder Tyler loves him.  Tyler, do you like to have contact with Krieger?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:55 | 2579473 LowProfile
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Dude, I like Krieger.  He has a good blog.  Want something new?  Try this

Now STFU before you piss me off enough to get up from the keyboard

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 01:32 | 2579898 Oh regional Indian
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He does have a point though. I remember the Buy Silver start, right here. And of course even the alternative media is a mafia.

Seems as if mafioso-ness is endemic in any structure having more than 3 people in it.

And much as I like this site, it's hardly Fight Club you know? When your absolute physical safety is assured, it's easy to be a tough-guy. 

Perhpas 2 of the posters here might open their junking mouths if they were in the presence of the target of their ire.

Everyone here neds to get over this Fight Club shit. It's bull-shit. It's just a blog. An excellent blog, but just a place you come and type stuff and read stuff others have typed.

Plus, everyone is pretty much on other people's throats here. Else, such a gathering of "financial wizards" should surely have coalesced to DO something, no? 

It's just a frigging blog. Get over your "I'm an internet's Muscleman" bravado.



Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:37 | 2579482 Conrad Murray
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I junked you for whining about what ZH posts. ZH provides a very open venue, with ever-increasing visibility (which does have it's downfalls, such as HuffNPuff mentioning it, thus bringing in a drove of Commies), for all of us to say whatever the hell we like. That is a lot more than most people are doing.

I don't much care for Keiser or Krieger one way or another, but I respect that they are putting forth issues many others won't touch, even if they aren't original.

I understand you may be upset someone has "stolen" your idea and run with it, but I don't think it's worth flying off the handle over. Spreading the idea is far more important than being credited with coming up with it, IMHO.

If you want to see it elaborated on, write an in-depth article. Post that motherfucker everywhere. Hell, if it's good, I'm sure there are plenty of people here who would help post it all over the tubes.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:38 | 2579542 FEDbuster
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Conrad nice Fight Club reply. 

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 07:45 | 2580128 francis_sawyer
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Nice reply ~ But the bottom line is that (in my experience), nothing ever gets done by being polite anymore... If it's afternoon tea (& you ain't invited), all you have left to do is to piss in the lobster bisque)...

Project Mayhem bitchez!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:21 | 2579582 JR
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We are living in an age of Pravda, and there are a only a few voices that you can hear through the den. As for commentators and columnists, there are thousands who are on the path of the oligarchs. They are traveling with the power, making their money by withholding the real news.

What do Krieger and Keiser do? This video is a perfect example. They point out major criminal activity, and if that is more same old same old, then we need more same old same old.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:23 | 2579658 Akrunner907
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I think you need to have your meds adjusted.....either that or get laid.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 00:50 | 2579862 Cosimo de Medici
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While I happen to be of the opinion Keiser is a carnival barker and Kreiger is just young enough to still believe he has unique thoughts and insights, I don't quite understand your indignation about your "Buy silver-crash JPM' notion.  First, I don't think it can be done, because I don't think most people understand the nature of JPM's position (a COMEX hedge to offset their Commodity Desk's mine production purchase guarantees and large physical holder hedge writing).  The more important question, however, is what is your motivation for the Buy Silver program?  Is it to actually take a shot at TPTB and bankstas, or is it just to massage your own ego and have people fawn over you?  Even if you did think of it first, so what?  You expect someone to give you an estate next to Lloyd Blankfein's out in the Hamptons?  You expect a gaggle of young nymphets to swoon in your presence and be unable to keep their legs crossed?  You expect to be the new Dictator of the Land of the Great Reset?  If it is a good idea and will yield wider society a benefit, as you believe, is that not enough reward?  Frankly, you sound as if you'd have been a banksta if life had given you the chance to be somebody.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 08:01 | 2580151 francis_sawyer
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What difference does it make if a "Buy silver-crash JPM' notion" is far fetched or not (in terms of it's purported viability to produce an outcome)...

Every fiat dollar that is traded in for an ounce of silver is wealth that is saved & removed from the banking system which is run by criminals... It is one of the only ways I can think of for an individual to have any input whatsoever (which equates to freedom) without chopping his or her own limbs off in the process...

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 02:36 | 2579953 Element
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@ Lennon Hendrix

I listened to this video about 12 hours before it appeared on zh and thought to myself, hmm, not much here.

But the discussion preceding it, with Stacy Herbert, was much fresher and more informative.

The interview with MK was OK, I wouldn't mark it down, it just didn't serve new insights.

No matter what you think of Keiser and his habit for melodramatic pantomimes, there's no question that he's right about the big banks being nothing but organised professional criminal guilds.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 04:03 | 2579984 Gringo Viejo
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I didn't junk you son. You're not worth the mouseclick.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 07:17 | 2580092 Roandavid
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I junked you for your own good.

Clearly you are suffering from great angst.  It was and is my hope that you might from frustration at having been junked, back away from the keyboard, run out the door out of frustration and get about the business of finding a hooker in your price range that will enable you to achieve some temporary, but still real piece.

You'll feel a whole lot better.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:47 | 2579466 BlackGoldTexasTea
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Whoa, settle down bud.

It was a joke.

You realize Tyler Durden is a character from a movie, right?  Tyler Durden and the Narrator are the same person.

What exactly is "our cause", anyway?

My cause is to make money and enjoy my life.  Sure, this is all gonna completely collapse soon; however, that has much more to do with oil than anything else.  When I can no longer walk across the street to the grocery store because the shelves are empty, I'll know I'm done with this world.

The sheeple have had 100 years to eliminate the Federal Reserve.  The flaws inherent in the euro were pointed out from the beginning, yet most Europeans celebrated the euro.  There has always been a ruling class because most people actually want to be ruled over and enslaved.  They just want their bread and circuses.  Oh, they'll bitch about things on the Internet, though.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:19 | 2579508 cossack55
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Damn, I'd like to slap you around a little but I have to agree with most of your thoughts. Our causes differ (fuck money, enjoy life), but that whole enslavement indictment is spot on. Plus you get a point for being a Texan.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:28 | 2579528 Gordon Freeman
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You still here?  I agree w/ your assesment, but how are you different?  Still a little unclear on that...

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:31 | 2579589 Floordawg
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Did you invent the Internet too?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:39 | 2579604 Lucky Guesst
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That was Al Gore, right? lol

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 02:26 | 2579946 Inthemix96
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And what exactly have you done for the cause then Mr Lennon?

Posting on an anonymous blog under someone elses name?  When I turn on the TV and see you arrested for some big shit taking down a CEO of goldman, then spool your shit.

Until then big man, shut the fuck up.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 12:30 | 2580890 bankruptcylawyer
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It's funn you say this. 

I've lived with a bunch of occupy wall street people who consider themselves 'active'. they are a bunch of 25 year old morons who simply want to smoke pot all day and then bitch about how they want to control the federal government for their own myopic socialist agenda. 

I tried engaging them for months about 'banking' and how the system 'works'. 


you have a point though. there are people who organize action---and many of them are morons uninterested in understanding the truth---and just interested in gettting attention and eyeballs regardless of the fact they are outpowered by the stazi and co-depedendent on the debt funded welfare system handing out food and money to the underclasses. 

then---there are people who are just interested in UNDERSTANDING. the problem is the hubris of the 'action' types , the warrior types, usually shuts out the input of people who are interested in knowing and understanding. at the end of the day. the action types usually ruin everything unless they can be controlled. 

there is a reason the CIA AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE IS ON TOP OF THE ARMED FORCES. the 'action' junkies are usually just emotionally self involved know nonthings who's main strength is providing the unquestioning forceful desire to 'change' by any means necessary. 

the question is-----what kind of 'CHANGE' are you action junkies looking for? Most of the time there is a standard line. "we want x,y,z'. the reality is most people who just want to be a 'leader' or part of a 'movement', regardless of their understnading. 



Mon, 07/02/2012 - 22:13 | 2582454 Eireann go Brach
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Jealous prick! Grab your ball and go home!

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 01:47 | 2579908 Buck Johnson
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Essentially your correct, also Max Keiser has these guys numbers to a tee.  He knows how they operate and where they are going.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 17:50 | 2579247 caimen garou
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I believe Zero Hedge is #1 my stop here  for the REAL news first and for exposing the BS going on by central planners!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:21 | 2579336 Ray1968
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Welcome to the party. Shoulda been here years ago.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:40 | 2579371 caimen garou
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 I have been visiting this site since 2010 and just joined a few weeks,makes my day. 

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:09 | 2579413 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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What have either of you done for the cause?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:47 | 2579464 porkdrippingsle...
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When I go to the bank I convince them that my kid needs to use their bathroom and then we leave an upper decker.  I do this at least three times a week.  That is my contribution to the cause.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:59 | 2579566 fonzannoon
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I bet that upper decker idea takes down jpm before the buy silver crash jom idea does. I can't convince too many people to buy silver but I bet a few of em would dump out just to shut me up.

This may get some traction and may even leave some skid marks.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:03 | 2579633 Rasna
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Great Idea,

Let's all go in, roll some logs at JPMC and maybe Jaime, Timmah and Sacks can get some OJT before changing careers and moving to the Northwest to become loggers themselves.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:23 | 2579521 cossack55
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What cause? Chill, LH.  I follow your posts and generally agree, but ya know, an enemy of my enemy shit does apply.  I'll worry about their agenda when this whole FED/banksta/Dem/Repub scheme is Carthaged.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:50 | 2579686 HardwoodAg
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Junked your ass for starters

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 23:16 | 2579740 RockyRacoon
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Define "cause" and I'll see if I can come up with an answer for you.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:55 | 2579384 vast-dom
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nyc-based FC members presently or in past involved in the financial sector and/or have finance/econ degree(s) and are ready to urinate in the creme of mushroom soup: 

There will be a meeting upcoming. You will be thoroughly vetted. It will not exist. Nor will you. 


Project Mayhem me.



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Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:10 | 2579416 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Nice.  The coke head is still saying he is Tyler Durden lol.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:23 | 2579583 Ray1968
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<oh, never mind>

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 17:49 | 2579249 slaughterer
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A sincere question: are Max and Stacy fucking one another?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 17:52 | 2579253 Lost Wages
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Presumably. He just proposed to her not too long ago. ;)

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 17:53 | 2579258 LongBalls
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At a very minimum they are mentally.


Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:22 | 2579339 SubjectivObject
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Spiritual sex, and for that, [physical] bodies need never touch.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:23 | 2579436 The Disappointed
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My 'SpideySense' says:

Max lets Stacey finish her sentences.
Her eyes either srceam that she loves him or that is the best cheating on the Turing Test that I've witnessed.
I don't care if they 'get off'. But, I would like to hear their 'discussions'.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 02:46 | 2579961 Element
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Let me just say ... I would.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 17:54 | 2579262 Wolferl
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Max and Stacy are fucking the banksters in their shows, that´s all i need to know.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 17:58 | 2579269 slaughterer
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If Stacy is not taken, I can fit her in next to Lisa Falcone, now that Lisa is ALL MINE  now.  In fact, I would like to introduce the two ladies to one another, and get a threesome going.  

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:25 | 2579344 resurger
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Lauren Lyster is the BOMB! from Capital A/C hands down ...

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:13 | 2579421 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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If lauren or any other journalists are reading this, I came up with the Buy Silver Movement, not Max Keiser.  It is me you want to interview.  We can talk about how I took down the financial structure and what not.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:40 | 2579457 porkdrippingsle...
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Quit trying to take credit for my ideas.  Just so everyone knows I came up with the BUY SILVER MOVEMENT.  It's way better than the Buy Silver Movement.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:57 | 2579552 FEDbuster
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I am starting the Buy Lead, Brass and Copper Movement, just in case the Buy Silver Movement doesn't work.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:43 | 2579610 Lucky Guesst
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I thought Obama started the buy lead movement.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 00:27 | 2579835 Overfed
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Too late. I already started that one! :-)

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:11 | 2579639 emersonreturn
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@ LH.  after this the line of MSM waiting to talk with you will be long and hot...but as it's patently obvious this sterling idea cannot have been your only blistering idea, please keep the rest safely to yourself until you have successfully patented, published or flogged them publically on MSM, thereby saving yourself from further losses.  your pain is patently clear.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:24 | 2579660 Roscoe
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All this time I thought it was the Hunt brothers who came up with the idea. (They were born in the 20's & 30's, so if you beat them to it you must be like Zelig or the guy on the Cenegenics commercial, and be in terrific shape!) I wish you well in your endeavors towards 'the cause', and 'taking down the financial structure' and 'project what not'. Godspeed, and keep us apprised!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:00 | 2579279 Conman
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I believe they are engaged.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:14 | 2579422 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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This is worse than Yahoo boards discussing TomKat's divorce.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:23 | 2579518 Conrad Murray
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I don't know why you'd get junked for this. WTF does it matter if they're together? There are much bigger issues to be discussed. Basement dwellers fantasizing over talking heads is not what we need.

Then again, disrupting the spread of information by clouding threads with inane banter is a common practice of the enemy.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:10 | 2579643 Rasna
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I just junked him to fuck with him and I junked myself for the hell of it.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:36 | 2579598 The Gooch
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Hey! That was my idea! Buy Kate! Crash Tom!


Mon, 07/02/2012 - 12:30 | 2580893 roadhazard
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Being an original hippie I can say that I said, "plant seeds, grow pot" first and mean it. And probably, "it must be 4:20 somewhere" too.


Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:15 | 2579424 SilverTree
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Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:12 | 2579309 GlomarHabu
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We'll never know that tail ... butt good question

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:17 | 2579429 ISEEIT
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I would say no. Not each other. But definitely both fucking.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:45 | 2579451 Red Heeler
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Mon, 07/02/2012 - 01:10 | 2579882 Al Gorerhythm
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@ slaughterer

A sincere reply: Which basal carcenomic cell is it that we can identify as your brain? Where has basic decency gone in this world where some clown finds it novel or funny to air a question about the relationship of two decent and honorable people? If I may, can I suggest (for a man of your obvious pedigree) some rarefied literature that you may find challenging. There's boundless articles on issues that you find important and you'll find them at USA Today or in some glossy-print mag where you can get all the gos on the Kardashians etc.

You sir, are a disgrace but then again, what would you care?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:00 | 2579277 lemonobrien
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it's all a sham; just buy gold, some silver. they even bought and sold the supreme court. in reality, they're just corwards, assholes who can't do what's right b/c they have to save their asses, prop up the system, deem everything ok.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:15 | 2579318 Zero Govt
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fair comment

and the only thing that'll take these cheaters out are 'The People'

nothing will stop this rot until The People take this cancer eating society out to the woods

Stop Paying Your Taxes ...simple, effective, final.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:48 | 2579387 lemonobrien
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Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:27 | 2579527 cossack55
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Shit, ZG, if you are counting on "the people" I fear you are going to be sorely disappointed.  I read once that only 3% of the population actively participated in the American Revolution.  You might be hard-pressed to get 1% today.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 07:54 | 2580144 spentCartridge
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1% of 350,000,000 is a sizable militia.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:02 | 2579283 Sudden Debt
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i love ZH but somehow I don't like anything at RT...
sure I watch Max and Caputal account but still... Russian Television...
and there are various references that show how great Russia is and how weak America so it's a bit like : look at the weak spots of our enemy.
so I don't like them very much.
also the constant ranting of Max is starting to work on my nerves.
Lauren, I like.... nice ass, nice tits :)

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:05 | 2579291 slaughterer
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Who is this Lauren you spreak about?  Maybe I should move in on her.  Who is she?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:13 | 2579312 Bollixed
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How big is your mom's basement, anyway? Sounds like you'll need a lot of 'shoe space' in the closet if all your fantasies come true.


Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:50 | 2579389 jmcadg
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You'll want to move on her dude. She is HOT. Capital Account on RT. Also add in Alyona (also on RT) and you'll have a threesome to remember.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:24 | 2579438 ISEEIT
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STFU. You would be funny in a funnier place and time. Roleplay is cool but it takes negotiation and you really know what the deal is going in.

This shit is not consensual and it sure as fuck is not funny/okay/mutually agreeable.

They only get away with it because it seems impossible or overwhelming that something so out of normal bounds could ever actually occur.

We are inclined to not believe it.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:10 | 2579307 runlevel
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Sudden Debt,

I dont think I disagree with a single one of  your posts... 

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:10 | 2579414 surf0766
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He is on RT and has done shows with Al Jazeera and people still think he isn't part of a group trying to influence the demise of America and turn it into some socialist/communist utopia.  Please....................


Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:41 | 2579606 The Gooch
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Yeah... That "Thom Hartmann Show" is a beacon of anti-comm/socialism...

He's got the "Big Picture".


Also, Breaking Bad returns on the 15th! 


Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:51 | 2579619 surf0766
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Never watched Thom Hartmann show.. sorry

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 07:54 | 2580146 Lebensphilosoph
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Turn it? Isn't it already a quasi-socialist cultural-Marxist dystopia?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:24 | 2579437 Clever Name
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I'll say it again, Alyonas producer is the better looking of the three, not that they arent hot also.


I have my reservations about RT also, but its still better than US Citizen (I cant help it!) MSM. If you take the same story between the MSM and RT, the truth is prolly closer to the RT version.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 00:49 | 2579859 Cosimo de Medici
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RT closer to "The Truth"? And you know this how?

Man, the shepherds at RT really know how to round up the sheeplelovskys.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 08:06 | 2580155 Lebensphilosoph
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RT closer to "The Truth"?

At least they give 'dissident' voices and downright conspiracy theorists airtime, and they don't have Israel's cock jammed so far up their arses that it hurts the viewer. Try looking for any such thing as dissent on CNN, BBC, Sky or Fox News. What do they have that compares with Cross-Talk? Good luck.

And you know this how?

The invasion of South Ossetia.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:02 | 2579285 Stackers
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mmm, marmite

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:02 | 2579286 ekm
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As I've been saying, over and over and over and over. Same as what Mr Krieger said:

The JPM, BAC, GS, MS are doing what the gov tells them to do. Period. They have already been subjugated to the gov.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:04 | 2579288 midgetrannyporn
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You have that backwards imo.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:07 | 2579296 ekm
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I doubt. I don't really care whether I'm right or wrong.

I just want to pinpoint the reality. My reading has made me to conclude that the big banks have been subjugated to the FedGov via too big to fail.

The problem is that the Fed is accountable to both the WH and the Congress. Since congress is Rep and WH is Dem, they don't know what to do.

But if Rep win all 3 houses, they will have one boss only. No wonder both QE1 and QE2 happened when Dems had all 3. As soon as the Reps won the house back no QE.

I am convinced about it.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:16 | 2579426 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Who fucking cares?

Just Buy Silver and take down this fucking ponzi.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:06 | 2579478 JustObserving
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All the silver bullion available in the world is about 1 billion ounces.  That is worth about $27.5 billion dollars.  US debt and unfunded liabilities increase by $22.5 biillion a day.  That has no effect on the US dollar.  What will buying silver do? Maybe JP Morgan loses a few billion but they get a subsidy of $14 billion from the US govt. every year as George Washington points out today.

Seriously, why will buying silver crash the system given that the silver market is so tiny compared to the $700 trillion derivatives market - just 0.004%.  The entire available  silver bullion in the world is 0.2% of the US equity market. 

The ponzi is just too large to be taken down by silver.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 23:19 | 2579748 OneTinSoldier66
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Are you just thinking of wealth being measued in terms of Dollars? What happens if people begin to measure their worth in terms of ounces? What happens to the price of Silver, if one day the Comex(paper Bankers and naked short sellers) run out of Silver when delivery is demanded?


I certainly hope that you don't think that the price of Silver would just remain unchanged once it's discovered that the supply has run out.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:10 | 2579645 ekm
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Just in case you wanted some more proof. Fresh, really fresh. 

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:08 | 2579300 Yen Cross
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 Pick on someone your own size (ekm).   Just a little hello. Did ya get wiped out in those Storms? They blew sideways across the entire Canadian proper.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:09 | 2579303 ekm
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I'm still fine and pissed that Spain won.

How's your USD CAD bet going?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:13 | 2579310 Yen Cross
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 Closed it last week. Did ok . Good memory.  Yes, I saw Spain won, and followed the Germany match. I also watched how those football players hugged each other on ESPN, and that was pretty darn cool!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:21 | 2579335 ekm
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Good. Happy for you. I did the same thing, closed my short oil position last week. Did quite well.

I'll short again if WTI above $90 or Brent above $105. 

Eurocup is just for fun. If you noticed, no hard fouls. The players do not get paid. It's just a big party for the people and a windfall for beer sponsors and pubs everywhere in the world.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:33 | 2579361 Yen Cross
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 Yep it was good sporting match. I don't trade (NSea Brent-WTi) but if I did, I would start building a small core short, and hedge it against a certain Miner. A contrarian bet.

   I think oil is heavily in contango/dark inventory.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:04 | 2579289 Mike in Tokyo Rogers
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Folks, Max ans Stacy are engaged. I think they make a wonderful couple. Maybe sort of like Batman and the Cat Woman!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:08 | 2579297 slaughterer
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Engaged, so I can still pull a "Graduate" and get her for myself.  Just like Max not to commit himself.  Well, I will steal Stacy from you just like I sole Lisa from Phil.  What can I get Max accused of?  Does he have a trading account?  Too bad Max, you will have to go back to onanism and Ramen noodles and "Inside Job" Friday evenings while I make Stacy moan.   

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:07 | 2579294 Atomizer
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The Panic of 1907 

Socialism Explained - Abbott & Costello Explain The Stimulus Plan 

The Central Bankers are writing their own version of 'The Grapes of Wrath' 

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:13 | 2579295 razorthin
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Forget about the individual bad bets and the attempts to make them whole.  I am suspicious of a grander theft orchestrated and promulgated by the world's masters to keep a lid on libor as a ruse of complacency with respect to world economies and markets even whilst the stench of rotting corpses fells anyone with a pulse.  Barklays is a pawn.  A well-paid one, but a pawn nonetheless.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:15 | 2579316 cranky-old-geezer
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Forget about the individual bad bets and the attempts to make them whole.  I am suspicious of a grander theft orchestrated and promulgated by the world's masters ...

... to loot every nation dry via their government's sovereign borrowing ability.

Fixed it. 

You're welcome.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:52 | 2579620 GOLDTEETHSILVER...

The fix is in!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:19 | 2579327 bob_dabolina
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I wish Obama and most of the Congress/Senate would jump on a grenade.

....I guess I'm a terrorist now.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:30 | 2579447 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You've always been a terrorist.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:45 | 2579555 bob_dabolina
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If you have something to say, you know where to find me.

Otherwise, continue talking shit.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:20 | 2579329 I am Jobe
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Shocking. Yeah Shocking. WTF. hang the bastards, confisicate everything and let the families join them in the after life. MOFO's must be tried hanging. F the judicial system.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:26 | 2579346 bob_dabolina
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FUCK YEA! Hang Everything!!!!!

Hang the bathwater AND the baby!!!

F tha police!

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:22 | 2579332 Everyman
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At what point do we start shooting these criminal fucks, without trial?  If the "laws" do not apply to the elite, what fucking good are they.  Why the hell do I care about "anarchy" when it only is applied to ME???  I believe that TPTB are the ones afraid of anarchy because THEY will be the targets.  John Roberts, Larry Summers, Hank Paulsen, Jamie Dimon. Angelo Mizlo, , Loyd Blankfiend, Ben Bernanke, and the hits keep rollin'.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

The complaints against the "King of England in the Delecation of independence, sound similar???

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

Sounds like we have kings usurping our freedoms and liberties.  We all may be talking "markets" and "economies" but that is just the "means".  The reality is the extingusing of the light of liberty, and the hands of assholes that worship money and power.

They need to be annilated and need to fucking DIE A HORRIBLE FUCKIN' DEATH, so NOBODY will EVER THINK OF TAKING AWAY LIBERTY EVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:30 | 2579354 HellFish
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100% agree.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:15 | 2579425 Goldilocks
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Nancy Pelosi " be the judge"
Obama Animal Nancy Pelosi Town Hall Protesters Carrying Swastikas (0:35)

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:25 | 2579526 ahull123
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wait until they come for your guns!!!!  They will never be held accountable,  who has gone to jail since the Lehman party ended so abruptly,  the offences go on and on,  you steal a bag of chips from a store and rest assured there will justice.?  F-ed up world in which we live.....  just keep watching the left hand and pay no attention to what the right hand is doing,  Sorry for rambling it just makes me nuts what's happening.  Am I the only one who thinks these idiots have screwed this system up so badly only a World War could provide the only cover for a massive reset?  Conspiracy maybe....  we'll see.....

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:05 | 2579571 GlomarHabu
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Molon Labe

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 21:07 | 2579574 GlomarHabu
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Great post sir  ...... we can stand on the shoulders of giants, and owe it to them to do so.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:22 | 2579338 cardis
Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:28 | 2579351 razorthin
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One word at 24:00 - Iceland.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:28 | 2579352 Zola
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I think Stacy is the brains behind the Max operation, never forget than behind every great man, there is a greater woman

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:34 | 2579363 razorthin
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Really?  She's right in front of me.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:43 | 2579376 NuYawkFrankie
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- and a mother-in-law with an ice-pick....

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:34 | 2579362 slaughterer
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Stacy would switch over to Jamie Dimon in a sec if Jamie made a move on her.  

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:34 | 2579364 Youri Carma
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Michael Krieger:

U.S. debt is illegitimate. This debt was forced upon us to bail out the banks which caused the crises in the first place.

So at some point in time somebody has to step up to the plate and say No! I don’t voluntarily except this debt.

We need to write this stuff off. Period!

Youri Carma:

0 – FORCE MAJEURE! – Call Void All Bankster Bogus Derivative Debts! Because paying off these trough fraud induced debts have become a technical and practical impossibility.”

29 December 2008, (Blogs.Reuters – The Great Debate)

Goldman Sachs and it’s European hacks, who are fond of volatility so they can sell more of their CDS’s insurance products to Europe, are greatly pleasured by the massive printing idea.Who cares about inflation flushing the real economy down the drain? If Lloyd blankfein’s doing “God’s work”, God definitely must be ‘A Boogie? Man!’ The cynical fact of the matter with these banksters is that nobody has to burn them down since the system is created as a selfdestructive device by these masters of the trillion dollar derivative universe. So kick back and enjoy the view of these suicide banksters burning themselves down to the ground. Unfortunately they are not the patient. We are. They are the cancer infecting the real economy and sucking it dry with their bogus derivative debts.

So maybe many finally come to the crystal clear workable solution like calling void all bankster bogus derivative debts. Because paying off these trough fraud induced debts have become a technical and practical impossibility. It’s impossible to find a concensus for tax money to be spend in paying of fraudulent, essentially gambling, debts let alone higher them because they committed even more fraud and need more money. Such an unequilibrium is unsustainable in the end. Everybody can see that and that something has to be done by somebody to drastically decrease the final debts in the system after which it can be restarted with a fresh and cleaned up balance sheet.

A restart is definitely required by which sustainable economical growth is actually possible and not some wet Goldman Sachs’s American psycho ‘God complex’ dream with chainsaws and loads of red ink down the white. “Why!??” : I ask the vampire squid: “Simply because I am a vampire squid and that’s what vampire squids do.” Wonder what Alice in Wonderland would have said to the Vampire Squid?

FROM: Wonder What Would Alice In Wonderland Say To The Vampire Squid?
27 November 2011, by Youri Carma (FPP)

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:35 | 2579365 slaughterer
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Are there any women working at ZH I can take on a date?  

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:33 | 2579449 The Disappointed
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I've got a push-up bra, a 6-pack in the fridge, and will make coffee in the morning.
What else do you want?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 20:21 | 2579513 WonderDawg
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A hummer (not the vehicle), for starters.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:35 | 2579366 High Wire
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No Taibbi? 

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:49 | 2579372 slaughterer
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I need to have sex with some more bearish anti-bankster women.   If Lauren Lyster were anti-bankster, she would be perfect.    Does she fuck silver-bug libertarian beer-swigging libertarian rednecks like me?

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:59 | 2579398 jmcadg
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She's your perfect girl. But I reckon you'd have to wait in the queue behind Reggie Middleton. Last time she interviewed him, she was gagging.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:14 | 2579423 Clever Name
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Alyonas producer is hotter than both of them, not that Lauryn and Alyona arent.


Just mho.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 00:58 | 2579873 Cathartes Aura
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it's good that you lads can keep focused on the issues, and not be distracted by your cocks.

and thread-jacking.   a lot of thread jacking. 

because your musings are so. . . ubiquitous amongst the herd.

as you were. (sadly)

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:44 | 2579377 chunga
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I was on the couch watching a show about "re-districting" or "Gerrymandering".

Basically all about how elections are completey rigged. Turned it off because I was getting mad.

Watched the 25 minute video and Kreiger nails it when he says Americans have a "Disneyland Mentality".

Fuck this noise. Turning the PC off now and going out on the porch to drink 10 cans of beer.

Tomorrow's "news" will be ridiculous no matter what.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 01:00 | 2579874 Cathartes Aura
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Disneyland.  and porn.

that's all you really need to know about amrkns.

Mon, 07/02/2012 - 03:23 | 2579971 Element
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July calender of key events in Europe post had a similar effect, the whole system has parasitised itself to the point of eating its own shit, and pronouncing it more wholesome and delicious than a punnet of strawberries and cream.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:48 | 2579385 GreatUncle
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Can't wait for NIRP the day the global banking system dies as liquidity runs all over the place to try and avoid the take.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:57 | 2579396 kill switch
Sun, 07/01/2012 - 22:31 | 2579669 Roscoe
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I miss Marla. She knew how to take our minds off this stuff for a few hours.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 18:59 | 2579399 blindman
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Libor manipulation is a crime that already robs the public to create bonuses for bankers. By artificially lowering interest rates, the banks caused cities, towns, countries, and other public entities to receive smaller returns on their variable-rate investment holdings. If it turns out that taxpayers end up paying the fine for RBS's crime of robbing taxpayers, how perfect would that be?

Read more:
Robin Williams On Dock Ellis's NO HITTER on LSD.avi
Todd Snider "America's Favorite Pastime"
No Mas Presents: Dock Ellis & The LSD No-No by James Blagden
Richard Alpert (Ram Dass) on LSD

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:05 | 2579406 Atomizer
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If a derivative falls in the woods, can you hear it? If not, collapse the entire financial system in unison. No one will notice the noise in the forest.

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:07 | 2579411 blindman
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The best Interview about drugs : Terence McKenna in Mexico 1996

Sun, 07/01/2012 - 19:31 | 2579448 q99x2
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I always watch the Keiser Report and with Mike Krieger it is a special report.

There is backing (votes) for political change now if politicians will run and act in line with the potential and whether or not it is too late we will see. Most important now to get the right people in so that during the collapse the right things happen at the state level.

Abolish the FEDs. All of them.

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