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As Of This Moment, Obama, Who Is About To Speak At The DNC, Knows Tomorrow's NFP Number

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While the fact that the stock market soared to new highs hours ahead of Obama's DNC speech may be a pure coincidence, we eagerly await to find out if while it is Bush's fault the economy is in the dumps 4 years after Obama took control, it will also be Bush's fault that the S&P just printed at 4 years highs. Something tells us that the answer is a resounding no. One thing we know for certain is that as of this moment the incumbent candidate knows precisely what seasonally adjusted nonfarm payroll number will be when it is announced tomorrow at 8:30 am. And since the TOTUS is very good at highlighting marginal moves in the economy, expect a leak or two during today's DNC speech. Then again, since the August number will not have to be discussed at the DNC, which ends this evening, there is a chance that the number of part-time workers added will be substantially below the 150,000 latest whisper number. Naturally, if whatever is reported tomorrow had any bearing in reality, the actual number would be negative. But there is an election to be won in two months, and naturally there are NFP reports after the election which can catch up with that trendline. In the meantime, here is why Obama knows precisely what only those select few other funds that are very, very close with the BLS, know.


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Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:32 | 2769347 HungrySeagull
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One kind deals with Leaks and the other kind well...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:40 | 2769372 FL_Conservative
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You have to have SOME basis for pushing for another $1BB stimulus program.  After all, a crony HAS to pay back all those that helped him get re-elected to maintain the quid pro quo.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:43 | 2769377 kaiserhoff
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You have to admit, Barry gave us something new and original...,

a first lady who hates America with a purple passion.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:45 | 2769390 knukles
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You people are soooo cynical....

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:49 | 2769410 Hype Alert
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I thought he wrote tomorrow's NFP number?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:57 | 2769433 nope-1004
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Osama to take the mic, stare off into teleprompter space, and say "Now let me be perfectly clear........"

Grab the popcorn boys and girls.  The Nixon-esque entertainment is thrilling.


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:44 | 2769537 Ahmeexnal
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AS II scheduled for October 12th.
Is the Choomgang going to ban this film?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:46 | 2769603 bobnoxy
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No need. Didn't that tank at the box office with the critics saying it was very poorly made, and even the director apologizing for it being a piece of shit?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:16 | 2769671 Troll Magnet
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(Hell, why not?  This is America, ain't it?  The only thing we manufacture now is bullshit)

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:55 | 2770080 economics9698
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The NWA needs to get his ass out of the WH.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:53 | 2770071 Solarman
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Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:48 | 2769404 JohnG
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And the first non-human first gorilla.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:51 | 2769414 bobnoxy
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Typical, and obvious, right wing racist. At least you don't try to hide it, though I hate giving you credit for something so ignorant.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:12 | 2769665 JohnG
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Fuck you.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:00 | 2770094 economics9698
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Being politically incorrect in America, 2012, is like being a capitalist in the USSR, 1975.  Fuck the yids, their time is coming. 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:38 | 2770034 yochananmichael
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well since he's half white it could be an albino gorilla

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:13 | 2769499 FEARTHESHARK

What's funny about a fucking racist douchebag like you is that Michelle Obama could likely beat you to death if you ever had the courage to come out from behind your keyboard to spout your bullshit.  You are a little cunt.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:13 | 2769668 JohnG
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And fuck you too.  Maybe you two should get together for a nice hug.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:51 | 2769406 MillionDollarBonus_
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One of the things that lead me to support Mitt Romney in the upcoming Presidential election is his firm commitment to energy independence. America has been striving for energy independence for decades, and I think we now have a candidate who can finally do it, once and for all. If Mitt Romney becomes president of the United States of America, the days of oil dependence are over, and a new sustainable green economy will emerge. Mitt Romney has the strength to stand up to Saudi Arabia and stand by his commitment to developing green technologies. I truly believe that Mitt Romney has the strength and toughness to finally reduce America's dependence on foreign oil.  


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:52 | 2769419 Coldsun
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Ah crap. If MDB is voting for Romney then that has to be the wrong choice.

Or maybe that's what he wants us to think...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:57 | 2769439 Joe Davola
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I see what you, or was that MDB - I'm so confused, did there!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:01 | 2770088 economics9698
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If MDB is supporting Romney you know the Washington $126,000 a year bureaucrats are scared the fiat will die soon with Cloward and Piven running the freak show.


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:53 | 2769428 knukles
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I'd gone out of my way to be kind to you, referring you to Dr. Jack Kervorkian and he still awaits your call. 
You're messing with your credibility, pal.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:57 | 2769437 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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U are a delusional imbecile.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:31 | 2769567 Meesohaawnee
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wow. you got some homework to do. All they have to do is stop the printing presses and the fraud. Crude will take care of itself. has nothing to do with said above.......

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 19:02 | 2769778 youngman
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Well Government Motors is selling all those cars to China..and they are not we better help them with some oil or we are not going to sell them know..keep the unions working...and the pensions superflush

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:48 | 2770260 BeetleBailey
BeetleBailey's picture's that Fartbook stock working for ya, Mr. High Delta Puts......LOL!

You fucking lying asshat

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:13 | 2769504 FEARTHESHARK

Don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative, asshole.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:58 | 2769632 Dr. Engali
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It might have something with the fact she is always putting the country down. Funny thing is she sure loves to spend the people's money on vacations.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:06 | 2769650 Slightly Insane
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Yeah, but Mrs. Obama just looooves that whitehouse gig.  She said she could get used to this FOREVER.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:43 | 2770046 bugfixx
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Why bother with elections? Why not keep her there forever as a hectorer-in-chief, nagging everyone constantly? That and her vacations should add at least 1% to GDP.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:44 | 2769378 NotApplicable
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Four year highs? It's almost like there's a pattern here, or something...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:04 | 2769465 LawsofPhysics
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Didn't he see that S&W sale are up?  Take the fucker out.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:21 | 2769535 SgtShaftoe
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I don't think it really matters, not to us anyway.  Both are totally owned by basically the same people.  The more I learn, and more history I read, the more pessimistic I get.  Things are so much more unbelievably fucked up than even cynics like us on ZH even realize.  If you thought it was bad, well it's a lot, lot worse... 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:32 | 2769348 slaughterer
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Even Trish knows by the way her dress is angled.  

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:55 | 2769430 Hype Alert
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Hans has a stain on his not so blue suit.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:41 | 2769349 LawsofPhysics
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The way copper and oil finished today, tells me all I need to know.  Doesn't the Fed have some repos to do as well?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:56 | 2769633 YouAreBliss
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Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:36 | 2769356 Oldballplayer
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Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:36 | 2769358 Xibalba
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Osama will say whatever Goldman told him to say. 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:46 | 2769391 Colonel Klink
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Good thing Blankfiend has two hands.  One up the ass of each candidate.  Don't fool yourself for one moment that the banks don't have their hands in everything.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:36 | 2769359 Vincent Vega
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I think the headline should read: Obama has already told NFP what number to print tomorrow.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:37 | 2769363 CDSMonkey
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After today, I wouldn't know what to do with the number if i had it in advance.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:38 | 2769365 Shizzmoney
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Don't worry folks, "the jobs are coming".

What a joke the two parties are.  They don't even pretend to give a fuck anymore as they laugh at us from their Ivory Towers of Epic Fail.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:59 | 2769425 Juan Wild
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Don't vote period. It won't matter. Any candidates that could right things for America are "killed" by msm. The sheeple know this intuitively. That's why voter turnout has diminished through the years.
OT.. Wall Street has "killed" the markets with these evil predator algos. That's why traders have given up as well.
No one gives a crap about appearances anymore.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:00 | 2769450 Haager
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Not voting does say you agree on everything or you're simply not interested.

You need to vote different.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:04 | 2769471 Juan Wild
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when the time comes I'll vote with lead.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:14 | 2769508 Dr. No
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No it doesnt.  Not voting helps in undermining credibility of the ones in power.  If the president wins with only 5% of america voting, what does that say? The MSM would have a hard time explaining how the ones in power are a result of democracy.  They dont dare mandate voting since you will get a lot of pi$$ed off people votes.  This 30-50% turnout is killing us.  Its enough to give them credibility.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:27 | 2769554 Dr. No
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Isnt that cute!  A junker who thinks his vote matters.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:52 | 2770068 bugfixx
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Far better to write-in Ron Paul or Tyler Durden on your ballot than not vote. The politico-bankster class could care less about those who stay home on Election Day and they would happily keep wrecking America with 10% of eligible voter support. A large percentage of spoiled ballots is the first step to a new third party.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:54 | 2769627 Meesohaawnee
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thats complete bullshit. by not voting, never had never will, means i dont believe in wasting my time with a complete handjob. I have better things to do like this read ZH..

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:59 | 2769638 silverserfer
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who here wants to deny that the US has an 8% unemployable rate. being out and about i see a lot of people I would never want to work with or for me.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:39 | 2769368 geewhiz190
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100 years from now Obama will be a footnote in history as the first non-white american president.  Bush will be remembered as the worst president this country has had to endure.  the damage he did will linger for years

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:49 | 2769397 random shots
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Careful of revisionist history....Obama will be hearled as pulling the economy out of the dark ages and seeing the S&P 500 double in four short years.  Not saying it is right I bet he will be seen just the way we think of Reagan, Kennedy, and FDR today.   

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 19:52 | 2769916 Beam Me Up Scotty
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The S&P doubling in 4 years had nothing to do with Obama or his policies. It was because of money printing and pure unadulterated bullshit.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:53 | 2770075 bugfixx
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History is written by the victors.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:53 | 2769426 Shizzmoney
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The whole "Obama/Bush" blame assignment game is so trite at this point.

This began in the 70s with Nixon.  Continues with both parties to this day.  Reagan (balnacing budget) and Carter (the consumption of oil adress to the nation) had their moments of showing SOME signs of being their own man (and they paid for it, mostly by their own parties)......while being complicit in tearing the country down (although not as much as Bush/Clinton/Obama).

When Obama leaves office in 2016, he'll be known as "President Stagnant".  Such a shame that a guy who meant so much, historically and figuratively, to people of color across this nation, and to democracy in general, progressing to a more better place in time......just ends up being a corporate schill like the rest of 'em.

This is the country the zombies voted for.   

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:38 | 2769584 blunderdog
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Everyone's remembered differently by different people.

The bankers will look back fondly on Obama. 

"He let us alone long enough to make off with the loot."

The oilmen will look back fondly on Dubya.

"He sure did buy a lot of our product."

The majority of the public has been justifiably hating politicians for hundreds of years.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:01 | 2769453 booboo
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Yes, Obama is a lingering bush fart, someone needs to light a match and rid the room of stench.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:42 | 2769590 ArrestBobRubin
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So to you, half White is non-White?

Nice math, you must be a BLS statistician.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:40 | 2769371 Undecided
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Anyone else been having problems with all day? must be the Lauren Lyster piece

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:45 | 2769387 magpie
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or the Putin interview

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:49 | 2769412 knukles
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Or somebody fucking with access thereto....

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:59 | 2769447 magpie
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i believe it only affects certain regions of the EU and USA. reminds me of the time their youtube account was blocked.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:48 | 2769400 zilverreiger
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Yes I had dns poisoning yesterday, thought it was on my end

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:49 | 2769407 Vincent Vega
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I'd like to have Lauren Lyster's piece.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:43 | 2769376 papaswamp
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Can't wait to see those part time job numbers, participation rate and employment to population ratio.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:19 | 2769527 LMAOLORI
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If you want to see REAL  job number's

Then do a double take on the kind's of jobs being reported

Pace of Service Sector Growth Faster Than Expected

Good thing the Lame Stream media won't be reporting them until tomorrow because the obama camp knows they are crap

Tomorrow’s Jobless Numbers Concern Convention Democrats

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:43 | 2769379 loveyajimbo
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Lester, knock off the SPAM, ASSHOLE!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:44 | 2769382 Colonel Klink
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I actually hope Obummer gets back in office.  He seems to be less for Israel than Romney, and if this whole shit box goes down it will be under his watch.  Since he'll be a lame duck president, maybe he'll burn the banks.  I'm not holding my breath though.

We always seems to be given the worst of two worlds when presented with the candidates for prez.

I'd still write in RP if I do vote.  I actually see it as a waste of time frankly.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:45 | 2769386 youngman
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Two sidelines...look at Smith And Wesson...sales up 48% ...huge....the Obama Put.....and PHYS is adding gold....and if its good news on the NFP...Obama will not keep it secret....he will spew it out

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:51 | 2769417 knukles
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Oh I get it.
He was right about those people clinging to their guns and Bibles...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:58 | 2769442 Coldsun
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So if I'm reading you right: Long on Gutenberg?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:23 | 2770163 dexter_morgan
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even a stopped clock is right twice a day.....

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:27 | 2770172 dexter_morgan
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lemme see, when the Obama took office, I bought gold at what, about $850 an ounce - running now about $1695 as we speak........not too shabby!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:45 | 2769389 partimer1
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Romney people will be sitting there watching SPX moving higher everyday and his chance of getting that job lower every point it moves. . Romney declined an offer of $30m annual salary in order to run for the office. They ought at least put up a fight, even a wimpy one.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:53 | 2769423 Blue Horshoe Lo...
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If he declined a $30 mill paycheck to run for prez, he's either a complete fool or he thinks Bernanke will make that $30 mill = $30 thousand in a couple of year!

My bet is on the 1st option.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:46 | 2769393 Rainman
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BLS to DOL to Obama ears to HFT is a short distance. " NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO BUY STOCKS "

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:48 | 2769405 Colonel Klink
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HFT = High Frequency Treason by the SEC

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:47 | 2769394 ArrestBobRubin
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Of course he knows it. Whore bitch Axelrod just pulled it out of thin air and shoved it up the Kenchurian Candidate's ass...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:47 | 2769398 kito
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tyler when will you cover....gasp.....a third party convention??????? they do exist!!! YES THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHOICE IF MEDIA, MAINSTREAM AND ALTERNATIVE, WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO COVER WHAT THEY SAY!!!!!!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:07 | 2769481 Juan Wild
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media won't cover it. turn your cable off to punish msm.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:49 | 2769611 kito
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Not just msm... Its almost every blog, site, etc that gives coverage to these parasites........tyler should be covering other parties......

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:46 | 2770523 earnyermoney
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ZH is owned by ABC. Maybe they're in the process of being assimilated ...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:52 | 2769418 q99x2
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Nobel Peace Murderer. Arrest him.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:16 | 2769512 Juan Wild
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did you know alfred nobel was the inventor of dynamite? yet another inside joke of rothschild, this Nobel PEACE prize! people will never learn.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:55 | 2769431 ParkAveFlasher
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NFP will print at the best possible value for Bummer just beneath the "I immediately call bullshit" threshold.  It will be revised downwards, on a backasswards basis, the day after the election.

WTF other way is there?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:09 | 2769488 tyrone
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Thats exactly whats going to happen. The big problem is than going to be, how is the BLS and Hilda going to explain the large disparity between their "we-wish" number and the real numbers coming from ADP, TrimTabs and other payroll monitors?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:22 | 2769538 LMAOLORI
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They don't have to explain it they never do they are adjusted downard after the fact all the time but the MSM never bothers to point that out.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:38 | 2770204 dexter_morgan
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They are too busy jizzin all over themselves like Chris Matthews any time their master speaks to do any sober analysis.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:16 | 2770139 dexter_morgan
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When the propamedia ignores that it happens regularly - who knows about it?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 16:57 | 2769434 Boilermaker
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Yea, it's going to be something bountiful and glorious...even if it's not.

For Christ sake, like they are going to now go fully 'legit' on then epic bullshit they've been spewing for years.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 19:08 | 2769798 youngman
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150,000 now is bountiful and glorious now....the new normal

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:01 | 2769454 Rathmullan
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The bubble boy ben, ny fed, the primary stealers and the financial press (cnbc) have the traders exactly where they want them. Bad payrol data means QE3 and the market goes up; good payrol data means continued recovery and th market goes up. It's a can't lose market. 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:05 | 2769475 Hobbleknee
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Am I the only one who thought the title was "Ass of the moment, Obama..."?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:16 | 2769516 earleflorida
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just a wee-bit OT... but, where's waldo [geithner]?

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:20 | 2769529 Dr. Engali
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I'm calling for a 225,000 print with 8% unemployment to be adjusted downward in January of course.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:22 | 2769539 JR
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Obama’s Record on the Economy and Housing: Are We Better Off Than 4 Years Ago? | Confounded Interest | Antony B. Sanders, September 3, 2012 (edited)

All in all, the United States is worse off since January 2009 since we have expanded Federal government debt by 50.47%, saw a decline in household income of -4.75% and still have almost 13 millions unemployed. In fact, the economy and housing market seem stuck in the recession that NBER dated from December 2007 to June 2009…

Here is a snapshot of the economy between January 2009 and today. Clearly, we are worse off as nation…

House Prices : Using the Case-Shiller 20 city house price index, house prices have fallen 4.17% since January 2009. House prices rallied at the end of the recession (gray bar), but started declining again until the beginning of 2012.

Civilian Unemployment Rate : Civilian unemployment has actually risen since January 2009 by 6.41%. It is difficult to have a vibrant recovery with rising unemployment. Unemployment rose to 10.0% in 2009 and has gradually declined to 8.30%... A more inclusive unemployment rate that includes marginally attached workers is the U6 unemployment rate. That has risen 5.63% since January 2009 and has a similar shape to the civilian unemployment rate. Once again, 15% U6 unemployment is too high

The civilian employment to population ratio has worsened since January 2009. It was 60.6 in January 2009 and is now 58.4.

Average Weeks Unemployed : Another measure of economic health is the Average Weeks Unemployed. It has risen 106.38% since January 2009… and has settled in at around 40 weeks.

Number of Unemployed : The number of unemployed rose 6.18% from January 2009, but has improved since reaching its peak in 2009… but almost 13 millions unemployed is a national tragedy...

Household Income : The real killer for a recovery is the 4.75% decline in household income since January 2009.

Gas Prices : It doesn’t help the economy when gasoline prices (regular) rise 122.61% since January 2.

SNAP (Food Stamps) : The number of households on food stamps, a negative economic indicator, has risen 45.38% since January 2009.

Federal Debt : The Federal government debt has grown by 50.47% since 2009… a reflection of how Federal government deficits and debts have not stimulated the economy. Given that we and our children will have to pay for this debt, we are clearly worse off on this metric.


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:13 | 2769976 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Stop using facts on people. All that does is make them put their hands over their ears and scream "I can't hear you!!! I can't hear you!!!"

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:42 | 2769541 YouAreBliss
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What was that 244 points today?  The sound of Central Bankers Mating!!!

Print, Print Baby Print!  It's a Printfest Party!!

Even old Gloom, Doom, Loon, from the Moon Faber threw in the towel today.

"Ah well...das crash...vill cume in 3 or 5 or 10 or...years"  Thanks Sherlock (not Shedlock)!!!

What was that old saying - "Don't fight the F..."

Obama says buy stocks now: Good deals there for long-term investors, President claims. Date: 03/03/2009 Dow 6,726 close. Today 13,292 - Are you better off?

Marc Faber Says Stocks Have Likely Peaked, Sept 25, 2009

Dow 9,665

Marc Faber says Obama's stimulus a failure, Oct 26, 2009

Dow 9,867

Jim Rogers "The Rise of China" 8/11/2009

Shanghai Composite:Then 3264 - Now 2037.

Shanghai Stock Index Falls to Lowest Since 2009; Vanke Advances


Glenn Beck - Investor Jim Rogers Gives Dire Warning 12/11/2011

Dow 11,410


Glad I listened to Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:14 | 2770123 dexter_morgan
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Yep, extremely glad I was listening to him too!

Gold - 1980 to present


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:17 | 2770346 YouAreBliss
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You got that right -  and it ain't over.


Do you think our Fed or any of these Central Banks will be able to roll all this liquidity back in?


Not a chance!


Big O knew that in 2009 and tipped us off.  These Deflationist dreamers are going to be so wrong.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:33 | 2769573 Sathington Willougby
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I think Ron Paul even thought the dam might burst this summer and in an act of desperation he'd be ushered in.

The monetary collapse will come, right when you're being lulled to sleep by stealing as usual.  The capacity to absorb our monetary pollution seems boundless, even Mars is in on the act.  

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:37 | 2769715 Shizzmoney
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We'd at least have intelligent debates about foreign policy...and not this bullshit soundbite drivel

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:46 | 2769604 Milton Waddams
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The rally doesn't end until your taxi driver is bragging about how he made a 15,000% return last month gaming some penny stock shell company.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 17:49 | 2769614 f16hoser
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Cool! Obummer is about to speak! (crickets, crickets, crickets).


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:18 | 2769667 GlassSteagall
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I am sorry based upon a more accurate reading of 'who's at fault' ... I submit the following:


Nixon ... Fiat Founder



Reagan ... Tax Cutter and Debt Expander

Bush I


Bush II ... War, War, and Big Debt

Obama ... Borrow our way out of Debt


Who cared since 'Debt doesn't matter'

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:19 | 2769677 Tombstone
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The reason I will vote in this election is because after Obama takes away my gun, he will also take away my RIGHT to vote. 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:44 | 2769735 blunderdog
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Obama can't take your gun away, but I guess if you need to worry about something, that'll do as well as anything else.

I'm more concerned about radioactive Corexit mutated tuna.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:10 | 2770456 El
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Right...just like Obama can't murder American citizens without charging them with anything, and just like he can't indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial, either. Obama can't listen in on your phone conversation without a warrant, or do anything unconstitutional like that. :eyeroll:

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:18 | 2770468 Uncle Remus
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Jeebus - the Japs are nuking tuna in the GoM? Good thing our carriers are in the other gulf...

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:39 | 2769723 Atomizer
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Obama & Bernanke are Bankrupting the U.S.
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 18:41 | 2769729 Manipuflation
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As promised, we will now need drinking keywords for BO's speech tonight.(as if you aren't shitfaced already)  We need three keywords, one for just taking a drink, one for slamming a whole beer and one for downing a whole bottle of booze.  Last weeks Romney results were as follows:


The "We Believe in America" Romney speech catchwords used during speech plus or minus:

Debt-2 (one usage out of context to actual financial debt: i.e a debt of gratitude)

Built that-0

Economy/jobs- 31 (no reference to middle class)


Other keywords of note that were overused:





Church/family/women- too many to list

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:44 | 2770051 YouAreBliss
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Romeny and the GOP - Forget the Military AND the Middleclass.


Romney - Not a single mention of our brave Soldiers fighting overseas!

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:05 | 2770104 Manipuflation
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The point of this exercise is to identify similar or the same keywords used by both RNC and DNC.  And to drink.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:19 | 2770151 dexter_morgan
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Seems you'd only need to explain that to an offended troll......

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:15 | 2770341 Manipuflation
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Seems if I was a troll, I would have posted it on every thread and not just here now wouldn't it?  And trolls always refer to what they said a week ago now don't they? 

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 22:22 | 2770357 dexter_morgan
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wasn't talking about you - was referring to the fact you had to explain it to someone that seemed to have been offended

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:17 | 2770467 Manipuflation
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Thanks Dexter.  No problem.

So here are the results plus or minus.

Jobs- 15

Future- 14

Tax(es)- 11

Hope- 10

Health or related care- 7

Middle class-4

Other words/phrased that I noticed that were overused.


-"You did that"(x3)

-Americans.  ad nauseum. But never "American people" save for one instance.

Compare and contrast.



Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:27 | 2770483 Manipuflation
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Disclaimer:  There were multiple uses of other words in excess but it is hard to keep track of more than 20 words at a time.  At least I am getting good at knowing some of those keywords and can put my marking pen next the word before the candidate says the word.  It get's a little harder when they lump three keywords all into one sentence though.

Cheers everyone.:-)

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 19:15 | 2769809 slewie the pi-rat
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seems a bit crazed to me to fire upon prez0's re-election campaign-launch with the #NFP

but yeah, if he wants to know it, he probably does...

slewie said last when the dollar index came offa the lower 70's after all the doomers were predicting "crashola" and theEnd of the US monetary unit

that prezo would run on

  • a strong dollar
  • that the "economy" could be worse, much worse
  • and the markets were no longer "in failure" but functional and liquid whether you want to splash around in them or not

if prezMcCain and vice-prezPalin were speaking tonight i doubt if tyler would be raising this issue #NFP   L0L!!!

i don't know what he'll say about jobs and employment :>  "ain't it awful" probably won't be it, tho

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 19:17 | 2769820 djsmps
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The unemployment rate will be 7.9% or less. This has been planned for months.

Fri, 09/07/2012 - 00:03 | 2770549 Pike Bishop
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There's the sun rising tomorrow morning, and the #NFP report.

I'd  fade the sun, before I'd fade your bet.

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 19:42 | 2769888 IMA5U
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Where is the commentary of HYG fading.


It screamed HIGHER into the close today.


Sorry uber bears.  Just remember, a stopped clock is right twice

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:19 | 2769995 surf0766
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It doesn't matter. Whatever he says the media will spin it as hitting it out of the park and the 98% of the population that are idiots will believe the media.  We are not smart enough not to repeat history.



Thu, 09/06/2012 - 20:30 | 2770015 Wood
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Mmm Motorboatin'

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 21:04 | 2770100 dexter_morgan
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Shocking....unless you are familiar with Chicago thuggery

Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:14 | 2770462 Uncle Remus
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Where's the chart for the "Ride of the Valkyries" MP3 sales...


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:51 | 2770513 Pike Bishop
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What is this bullshit. Where's ZH's live feed of the speech.

The wife won't let me watch it in the living room after all of the projectile vomiting during Myth's speech.

Why does she think it will be worse for 'Bama's speech. Four years ago, it went perfect. It took a month or so before the reality set in.  And that was just bleeding from the ass for the first 6-7 months until I got used to it.

I've got him on a feed, and I think he just said...

"We're not about what your Government can do FOR you"

"We're about what your Government can do TO you."

Somebody check that second sentence. It may not be what he said, but I know it's what I heard.

When do the Primaries start for the Uber-President... of the Fed?

Fuck this political shit. I want a vote on what really counts.

BTW, do I have to be an "Accredited Investor" to get in on the Italy/Spain bonds. If iPhone5 doesn't go well, the Central Bank of Israel and I are going to have to swap out of AAPL to something good, like those bonds or NFLX. Or maybe there's a reverse-merger in China to get in on. I think China and the Asian Markets are about to comeback majorly big.

It's getting tough to be a MainStreeter investing. Maybe that's why there are only 206 of us left in the US.


Thu, 09/06/2012 - 23:55 | 2770531 bnbdnb
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Everything is going automated, thus ADP gets a larger portion of payrolls than not. ADP numbers, when jobs are added at all, will always grow.

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