Moody's Goes For Trifecta, Downgrades Citi Short-Term Rating Of Citi From Prime-1 To Prime-2

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Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:04 | 1693049 CaptFufflePants
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CITI is up on the news go figure.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:07 | 1693067 SGS
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Long term debt affirmed SOLID

 

LOL

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:13 | 1693107 Ahmeexnal
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Moody's goes TRIFECAL.

BTFD

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 14:02 | 1693411 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"Herro, wercome to Shitty Bank, tay your order prease?"

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:07 | 1693072 nope-1004
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I figured these would come around the time of a QE announcement.  It will make more sense tomorrow, but for now these downgrades are well timed, dontchya think?

I bet Benocide eludes to these downgrades as further rational.

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:12 | 1693102 jdelano
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I think the opposite.  This is a retaliation move, a middle finger driven into the wound that OT will open in the banks' long term prospects.  Moody's cleary sending an FU to Buffet/Obama. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1693189 NotApplicable
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Retaliation infers opposition. Given this is the political economy we're talking about, I no more believe in the existence of opposition there than I do with professional wrestling.

It's all meant to convey a facade of integrity, but it isn't that hard to see through it. This is true even IF, as you say, Moody's is sending an FU to Obama. It's just another page in the script, and Moody's gets to play bad cop, to balance out Bernanke's good cop routine.

Otherwise, reality might appear unbalanced and incoherent.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:12 | 1693105 NotApplicable
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Absolutely. As I mentioned in the last thread, it's all about manufacturing consent to create a facade of a mandate for action.

Because, as we all know... wait for it...

"WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!!!111!!!1"

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:15 | 1693123 Da55id
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Doesn't Berkshire own a big chunk of Moody's? Announce bad news that will immediately be eclipsed by later news and gets it out of the way. Nice play. Play nice...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:20 | 1693169 jdelano
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Warren Buffet had this to say on Moody’s:

……the company “eagerly sought stupid assumptions that enabled them to do clever mathematics.” As to why he didn’t exert his influence, he said: “I don’t think I’ve ever made a call to Moody’s. We don’t tell Burlington Northern what safety procedures to put in or AmEx who they should lend to. When we own stock, we are not there to try and change people……

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:23 | 1693202 covert
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all corp banks are doomed to fail, it's the nature of banking and govt doesn't help. the fundamentials always prevail.

http://covert3.wordpress.com

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 14:17 | 1693488 LongBalls
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Bank stocks are going to get a steroid shot today. They are going to be forced to take the deposits at the Fed. and lend it/invest it in pursuit of a larger yield. The market will view this as bullish.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:04 | 1693051 Irish66
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Superfecta

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:22 | 1693096 Shocker
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The fecta is going to continue on. Without people spending money getting loans for cars/houses... Banks are going to continue to be under pressure. Really no way around that

 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:28 | 1693236 depression
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add to this the flatening yield curve

a one - two punch to the gut

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:16 | 1693131 Larry Darrell
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Don't forget the Super High Five on the last race of the day.  It has a carryover, kinda like the debt the government continually has to roll.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:05 | 1693055 junkyardjack
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The market appears to be getting more and more excited for QE3 with each announcement.  

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:06 | 1693059 stant
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open season on buffet and banks

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:07 | 1693073 IQ 145
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Look at POT on the NYSE it's going to rally 15%+ in the next couple of months.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:08 | 1693074 DogSlime
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I love the smell of a triple bank downgrade in the morning - smells like.... DEEEP SHIIITTTTT!!!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:08 | 1693078 LongBalls
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A.K.A..... Bankers to Moody's, "Hey guys we really need this cash" how can you help us slip you some dough?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:08 | 1693081 No One
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So, when is Moody's going to man up and downgrade America?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:12 | 1693089 lolmao500
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Next : downgrading America, France and the UK.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:11 | 1693101 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Sacrificing goat after goat on the alter of the Temple.  Ah yes, the equinox.  And if anyone does not think there is a method to the pagan Illuminatti's madness, you may wish to read from the real history books. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:13 | 1693112 jdelano
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Battlefield Earth?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:42 | 1693317 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Something like that

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:18 | 1693142 ReallySparky
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Mr. Hendrix there will be none of that conspiracy stuff around here, there is no audience for it.   /sarcasm

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:44 | 1693310 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Oh right.  Bernanke is a schoolboy and is just like all other Economic Professors [cough cough].  He doesn't pander to the wants and needs of the elite [cough].  He is just using the book he wrote because he believes in it, not because he is a shareholder for the Bank of International Settlements [cough.....cough!].

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:26 | 1693220 12ToothAssassin
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Autumnal Equinox is on Friday, September 23, 2011

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:35 | 1693276 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Yeah, yeah, I know, that is what my calender says too, but really, the calender is so messed up at this point that we don't really know what we are talking about.  We should have been using the moon calender for the last 2000 years if we had wanted to be accurate.  Man, now that I think about it, the Mayan calender may have read completely differently, huh?

;)

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:13 | 1693108 ReallySparky
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Does anyone else here find it suspisious that these rating changes are coming out prior to the FOMC?  I say the Bernake suprises everyone.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:16 | 1693114 DropOutEconomist
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Buffett is a large shareholder in Moody's.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:15 | 1693126 GeneMarchbanks
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WTF is going on at Moody's? Did Zandi get fired? That guy blows...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:17 | 1693138 TradingJoe
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Too little time to make a difference now! These "downgrades" should have come a lot earlier, The Benster cannot react on these ones now, not good for his "reputation"! NO QE! Just some "tough talk" and that's it!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:26 | 1693208 NotApplicable
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LOL, you really think he didn't know about them?

Remember, the reaction is the action.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:17 | 1693140 Zymurguy
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No matter what happens with the downgrades or the the next QE, you can be assured the common man will be fecta'd.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:18 | 1693141 tallen
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There's something about watching ShittyGroup's stock tank that makes me feel so warm inside

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:33 | 1693263 bugs_
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Deep Shah

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:50 | 1693350 lolmao500
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Time for China to cut the swap lines to the US.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 14:13 | 1693467 Lester
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Evidently todays news, domestic and foreign just goes to show that $16 Trillion in secret funding just won't go as far as it used to.

Buddy can you spare a couple Quadrillion?

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 14:13 | 1693468 azzhatter
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Dick Bove runs in to take another dump. 

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