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Moody's Puts Credit Suisse On Downgrade Review

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Hmmm: Who is the Swiss PM and who is the Goldman Sachs advisor for Switzerland?

From Moody's:

New York, November 14, 2011 -- Moody's Investors Service has placed on review for downgrade the long-term ratings of Credit Suisse Group AG (senior at (P)Aa2) and subsidiaries, including subsidiaries Credit Suisse AG (deposits and senior debt at Aa1, bank financial strength rating at B) and Credit Suisse International (deposits and senior debt at Aa1). The short-term ratings of Credit Suisse AG (Prime-1), Credit Suisse Group AG ((P)Prime-1), Credit Suisse International (Prime-1), and affiliates were affirmed.
 
RATING RATIONALE
 
The rating action follows Credit Suisse's announcement that it had a pre-tax loss of CHF0.8 billion, excluding fair value gains on its own debt due to widening of credit spreads, for the third quarter of 2011.
Credit Suisse also reported that its Investment Banking segment had a pre-tax loss of CHF681million (excluding fair value gains and losses on its own debt), and its Private Banking segment also suffered a sharp decline in pre-tax profits, down 14% from the second quarter and 21% from a year ago (excluding provisions for litigation charges in Wealth Management related to US and German tax matters).
 
Moody's stated that Credit Suisse's results were weaker than expectations, and highlighted the challenges that the bank faces in the current environment. Although the appreciation of the Swiss Franc against the US dollar has put some pressure on the bank's results, much of the decline was driven by the overhang of macroeconomic uncertainty and the adverse impact of illiquid markets during the quarter on fixed income sales and trading revenues. Moody's also noted that despite steps taken to strengthen its client-facing trading franchise over the past two and a half years, Credit Suisse's fixed income sales and trading revenues suffered a more significant year-over-year decline than many of its peers. The rating agency believes this reflects the bank's greater reliance on credit and mortgage trading, and its relatively weaker positioning vis a vis peers in foreign exchange and rates. The bank's quarterly results have been more volatile than similarly rated peers and its year-to-date returns relative to risk-weighted assets are weaker.
 
The rating agency noted that Credit Suisse has demonstrated consistent strength in risk management since the start of the financial crisis, has significantly lowered its risk appetite, and has maintained robust liquidity and strong regulatory capital ratios throughout. "Credit Suisse is among the highest rated banks in the world today. The bank's numerous strengths left it well positioned relative to peers during and in the immediate aftermath of the financial crisis," said David Fanger, Moody's Senior Vice President. "However, we believe that the challenges the bank now faces, and the re-engineering those challenges will require, increase the risks to bondholders relative to other similarly rated companies such that a lower rating may be more appropriate."
 
Credit Suisse has announced plans to refine its Investment Banking strategy and modestly re-position its Private Banking business. This is the second strategic realignment Credit Suisse has undertaken in its Investment Bank since 2008 and in Moody's view the need for a second initiative highlights the continuing challenges faced by Credit Suisse in its Investment Banking division. "We believe the need for further restructuring is driven by both the continuing macroeconomic uncertainty and the increased pressure on shareholder returns that is likely to result from higher regulatory capital requirements," said Mr. Fanger.
"While this pressure also exists at many of Credit Suisse's peers, we believe Credit Suisse is more challenged due to its mix of business," he added. "As a result of the declining profitability of the bank's Wealth Management businesses, stemming from the strong Swiss Franc, low interest rate environment and cautious client behavior, Credit Suisse has become more reliant on its investment banking business, at a time when that business is also under significant pressure."
 
Moody's review will focus on the restructuring steps announced by Credit Suisse and its implementation, as well as on the underlying profitability trends, particularly in its Investment Banking and Wealth Management divisions, going forward.

 

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Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:18 | 1875979 Deadpool
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the Swiss ain't what they used to be...

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:31 | 1876023 Its_the_economy...
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What did they used to be?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:33 | 1876028 junkyardjack
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A haven for drug money

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:39 | 1876050 Ratscam
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this status taken over by Guernsey, Cayman, Delaware, singapore, etc.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:34 | 1876030 tmosley
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Free.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:10 | 1876136 ConfederateH
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You nailed that one Tmoseley.  And CS is one of the big reasons the Swiss are no longer free.  They have been sold out to the banks who have in turn sold out the country to the US fiat empire.  Its like going into business with the mob, once you are in you can never get out.  CS and UBS both belong to the US banking system, both having also sold out Swiss financial privacy by revealing clients to the mob, er IRS.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:37 | 1876041 Financial_Guard...
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Credit Suisse Cheese is even getting downgraded. Its all holes and no cheese.

Bullish for someone somewhere just like every other piece of bad news.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 15:10 | 1876353 knukles
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I dated a Swiss au pair, one of the horniest, most perverted dirty girls I've ever met while I was living in England.  And she was all holes and smelled like bad cheese, too.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 16:01 | 1876607 11b40
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Is Phil Gramm involved in the cheese industry now, too?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:20 | 1875986 PontifexMaximus
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Switzerland does not have a PM, prime minister, they have 7 Bundesräte, where a Bundespräsident is acting as primus inter pares.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:21 | 1875989 Tyler Durden
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It was more of a "rhetorical" inquiry...

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:32 | 1876026 syntaxattack
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I LOL'd when I saw it, Mission Accomplished.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 15:16 | 1876383 greyghost
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does the goldman replacement have to be a swiss citizen? inquiring minds and such

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:59 | 1876104 blu
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Okay, so queue up seven former Goldman advisors. It's just logistics.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:22 | 1875988 X.inf.capt
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this is getting REAL....

BITCHEZ!

its real simple...

bonds= trash!

physical PM's= stability

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:44 | 1876063 CrazyCooter
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I think "physical PM's= stability" is a bit of a stretch. I see it more like a safety belt. Hitting the brick wall at 60 mph is still going to hurt, but at least I have some odds of walking away. As for those without safety belts ...

Just important to note this is going to be a historic level of suck on a global scale and there is no "easy ride" to the other side.

Regards,

Cooter

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:46 | 1876071 Bring the Gold
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True, but more true is:

bonds = liens on real assets the banksters want to acquire.

Step #1 drown world in sovereign debt

Step #2 Austerity involving selling of real assets and collateral eg Gold, real estate and other resources

Step #3 tank global economy mass default on bonds

Step #4 Introduce new global fiat regime and one world government via G-20, IMF and of course the BIS

Step #5 no more need for profit, mission accomplished.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:54 | 1876091 Bring the Gold
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Oh and if step #1 is resisted due to say Sharia laws against usury just to pull out a random example from one's hat, why that's what all those tanks and bombs are for. That and most importantly psy-ops and propaganda machines. Oil gotten through debt is much easier to acquire. Those who resist debt shackles will meet physical persuasion. Until of course humanity wakes up to this and transcends this madness.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:22 | 1875993 Marigold
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Peter Sutherland for next PM of Ireland also !

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:25 | 1876003 firstdivision
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Wait, we didn't mean that.  We were...ummm...hacked.  Yes, that is it hacked.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:27 | 1876009 chaartist
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FYI. Today Slovakia auctioned 5 year treasuries, we were able to raise 13 mln. EUR vs. planed 150 mln...prepare for bloodbath elsewhere...use google translate : http://ekonomika.sme.sk/c/6139365/pondelkova-aukcia-slovenskych-dlhopiso...   

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:28 | 1876014 HD
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There will be no down grade. TPTB would never risk our strategic hot chocolate supply. What would congress members drink after they come inside from making snow angels in the capitol lawn?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:28 | 1876015 scatterbrains
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I had to rub my eyes and look twice but am I seeing a sorta slow evolving rounding parabolic arc building steepness on the SPY back from Feb. ? and more so should this ending triangle affair break 124ish to the down side ? No wonder Buffer is out today pumping IBM and WFC.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:36 | 1876037 s2man
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China Puts U.S. Debt on Downgrade Reivew.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/nov/12/chins-threatens-us-with-n...

Where was that thread about the Chinese telling the truth?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:36 | 1876038 Caviar Emptor
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Downgrade the planet

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:36 | 1876039 Schmuck Raker
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This is all part of the plan.

"They" need to keep CHF pegged to a falling EUR, and buying EUR is just too painful.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:45 | 1876052 Monedas
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Tyler ! That's funny ! Swiss Bank put on credit watch ? Swiss watch doesn't keep good time ? Swiss cheese has defective holes ? Lederhosen on Swiss misses promotes vaginal yeast infections ! The best humour is spontaneous ! Credit Suisse on credit watch ? How Suisse it is ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Jihad Swiss Chocolate Meltdown

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:40 | 1876054 Caviar Emptor
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Zimbabwe places Moody's on downgrade review. 

 

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:42 | 1876059 Caviar Emptor
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Bolivia places NY Yankees on downgrade review

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:42 | 1876060 Fox-Scully
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Does this include a downgrade of Swiss chocolate?  What next?

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:45 | 1876067 Spooky Polish
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Spooky Polish Tit places You on downgrade oral raper review list 

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 13:51 | 1876086 Quadlet
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Gold = 1776!  God bless America!

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:00 | 1876106 Haole
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Fixed it for you.

 

God blesses gutting America!

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:03 | 1876116 tim73
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Four words...strategic nazi gold reserves! :)

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:07 | 1876122 jimmyjames
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The rating agency noted that Credit Suisse has demonstrated consistent strength in risk management since the start of the financial crisis, has significantly lowered its risk appetite-

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It was what they did before the crises that counts and that was loan billions of CHF into the eastern Europe housing bubble when the exchange rate was 167 EUR/CHF-

The amount of loans tallies up to about 25% of Swiss GDP and the Banking industry totals about 70% of Swiss GDP-

Thus the CHF/EUR peg which they hope will dampen the mortgage defaults that will slam these Banks hard-

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:54 | 1876278 common_sense
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 BYE BYE "tax haven".... THE END OF BANKS EXCESS... FOR EVER AND EVER...

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 15:04 | 1876315 slewie the pi-rat
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these banksters should not feel bad

i've been losing, too

and i don't have any debt from which to exclude fair value gains

i'm holding firm:  noMo debt for slewie till they pay me 3%;  then, i'll take $1 mil

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 15:09 | 1876341 Stoploss
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I guess Alessio Rastani was right when he said Goldman rules the world. Now we get to see it in the literal sense.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 15:17 | 1876384 riley martini
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 Moodys ratings should come with a warning label fraud alert . Something like a cigarett label smoking  causes cancer.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 15:17 | 1876385 monopoly
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And the Beat goes on.

Mon, 11/14/2011 - 19:05 | 1877308 lolmao500
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I called this last week... downgrading Switzerland banks was coming.

Tue, 11/15/2011 - 04:22 | 1878442 boogey_bank
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swiss is no longer free since the end of the millennium,

as Ferdinand Lips writes in his "Gold Wars"

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