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More Bad News Imminent: August US Auto Production Set To Plunge By Most In 16 Months

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Over the past several months, many pundits were scratching their heads at the peculiar patterns in summer hiring and layoff trends, which threw all NFP, claims, and JOLTs forecasts in a loop making a mockery of even the best forecasters. The reality is that there was a very specific reason for this abnormal seasonal pattern: numerous car plants worked throughout the summer, avoiding traditional temporary shutdowns and furloughs, in an attempt to provide an optical boost to the Union-endorsed administration. And as always happens (see Cash for Clunkers), every attempt to pull demand or supply from the future to the present results in an eventual collapse in either of these two. Sure enough, with June and July reaping the benefits of advance demand, August is set be an absolutely abysmal month for US auto assemblies and for Industrial Production. Because as Stone McCarthy calculates, based on projections provided by Wards Autos, the U.S. motor vehicle assembly rate for August is projected to decline by 8% to a 10.1 million annualized rate after rising by 4.4% in July. This would be the biggest monthly percentage decline in the assembly rate in about a year and a half, since April 2011's 9.5% drop.

SMRA continues:

For the Fed's industrial production report, we project motor vehicle output to decline by 4% in August after rising by 3.3% in July. The anticipated decline in motor vehicle output will restrain industrial activity in August. In July, industrial output rose by 0.6% with manufacturing output up 0.5%.

And since Industrial Production feeds directly into bean counter models for GDP calculations 2%+ GDP forecasts for Q2 are about to see their floor falling off and the economy return to a sub-stall speed growth rate, even as the growth rate of debt refuses to budge lower by even one iota.

 


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Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:13 | Link to Comment SilverTree
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<-----QE this year.

<-----QE next year.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Vincent Vega
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<---------QE for ever and ever.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:33 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Crap.....what's going happen if I need to buy a Volt?

 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment Vincent Vega
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Probably pick one up at a fire sale.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:45 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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I'm sure this is merely a seasonal anomaly.

How long was the Dark Ages again?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment Manthong
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One man’s optical boost is another man’s boiling mirage.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:49 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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"Probably pick one up at a fire sale."

that was funny

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:57 | Link to Comment ptoemmes
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There are two kinds of Volts: ones that have caught on fire and ones that are going to catch on fire.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Turin Turambar
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and if it's actually on fire when you buy it, it'll be even cheaper.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:40 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Buy a Hyundai!  ;)

Hyundai actually makes a nice looking Sonata Hybrid.

Yes, sir!  We have your bearing!  Down in Peru...

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:37 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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I am going back to painting my nude studio model until 10am tomorrow.  Seeing Liesman on CNBC just demoralized me.  

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:04 | Link to Comment poor fella
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Put Liesman's head on your nude and you'll have a museum worthy piece.

I'm sure there's a critic that will write up four or five paragraphs how monumental your symbolic critique of civilization and characteristic frisson between the civilized work force and the awareness of subconscious forces beneath the surface within us all.

or something like that ;)

better yet, slap on a $950k price tag and they'll be beating your door down.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:25 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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Bernanke is actually a smart fellow.  He's an academic and looks at data.

Suppose he said, the point of printing money is to be sure that a growing economy is not choked off by its lack.  Since we're not growing very fast, we don't need to add any more.  Further, 10 year bond yields are low and falling again, so there's really no point.

Perhaps no more QE as far as the eye can see.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:30 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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LOL, people still actually think the Fed are mechanics busilly turning wrenches trying to fix things? 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:54 | Link to Comment Miss Expectations
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I think that the Fed mechanics just keep spraying ether into the economy's carburetor...does our economy still have a carburetor?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:33 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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does our economy still have a carburetor?

Do we still have an economy?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:30 | Link to Comment SilverTree
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Most agree they never stopped QE-ing. 

Overt/Covert.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Poetic injustice
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"Since we're not growing very fast,"

 

Are you ASSuming based on official data, like "academics" do?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:58 | Link to Comment TrillionDollarBoner
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those QE scores would have been reversed a few months ago. looks like kito and sheepie1 have called this right for a while

 

still room to be wrong though... (december)

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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you can pay me now or you pay me later.....but you will pay !

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:38 | Link to Comment socalbeach
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Gives new meaning to the term "money laundering".

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:41 | Link to Comment monad
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It was a fiat dime.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 13:19 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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Back in '63 dimes still contained silver.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 13:18 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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Yes....several of those sorts of quack 'dismissals' going on here in Iowa with WF. They've suggested that it was new FDIC rules that brought this all about, something about taking care that there aren't any more Bernie Madoff's around.

What a load of BS

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Jason T
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garbage index..  down 26% year over year

 

http://daytradersfx.com/the-us-garbage-indicator/

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:18 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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EPA now stands for Employment Prevention Agency. What better way to reduce pollution than to prevent production of everything.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:15 | Link to Comment i-dog
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'Agenda 21', biachez! Like it or lump it.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:14 | Link to Comment bnbdnb
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ECRI - timing was exact. Recession started in Q2, May 2012.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:15 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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QE Tomorrow, Bitchez!

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:33 | Link to Comment Alpacanio
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Lol. don't you guys get it. QE has never stopped! Look at the National Debt clock!

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:15 | Link to Comment mrktwtch2
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no more channel stuffing..

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:16 | Link to Comment chunkylover42
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<---  QE never

<---  QE forevah!

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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With US debt and unfunded liabilties currently increasing at $8.35 trillion a year ($22.86 billion a day), we will have QE forever.  

The longer that Bernanke goes without QE, the larger the next QE will be.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:48 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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More QE till we finaly hit the brick wall of inevitable consequences.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment the 300000000th...
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Why in the hell are they letting these facts leak out like this, very suspicious!

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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when you want to figure out a criminal you gotta think like one. Nothing wrong with being suspicious.....

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:43 | Link to Comment monad
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Deep rooted sadism

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:17 | Link to Comment icanhasbailout
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bullish

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:37 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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I noticed a horse running the other day at RP. The name was I Need A Baleout. Racehorse names are a leading indicator.

 

Running tomorrow:

Deflationary Fears

Pretend and Extend

 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 22:08 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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"Grand Apocalypse" is in the running... :>D

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:20 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Yes, sales are down, production is down, but I'd like to put a few cars away for my grandchildren.  Any chance at financing?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:20 | Link to Comment Hype Alert
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Stealth campaign contributions by the union was documented in the WSJ a month or so ago.  The union spends millions in political efforts that are not reported as contributions.  When government gets directly involved in the economy, read Government Motors, it becomes more corrupt than throwing games because of gambling bets.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment OldE_Ant
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(/sarc) Yeah but arn't bicycles and motorcycle sales at all time highs? 

If they don't have a job, they don't need a car!

I feel a government auto purchase rebate program coming soon.  Maybe they should switch over to manufactoring Armored personnel assault vehicles.  I hear those are selling like hotcakes, or better retool for gun barrels, or ammo.(/sarc)

End of Line

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I thought Obama saved the U.S automotive industry. Maybe he can by us all a new car out of his stash.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:41 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Help the plebs? Doubt that.

At least not until you see every government worker driving a new GM car first.

They should give them away with scratch-off tickets. The plebs fucking love scratch-off tickets! (thank God for pay-at-the-pump)

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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bullish

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:21 | Link to Comment youngman
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We need more student loans so we can buy more cars...but it must of been the Volts...all those GM Volts

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:23 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Better get the rest of that bailout money back, and fucking quick.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment Curt W
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I take it that all the channels are adequately stuffed.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:27 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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They won't be stuffed solid until there are two Lambos in every driveway.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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GM doesn't make Lambos, they make Chevy votes.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:35 | Link to Comment SoCalBusted
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+1000

Dealers are probably finally pushing back on having inventory jammed down their throats.  Who is financing the dealers' inventory? 

Next step, nationalize the dealerships so that they can keep stuffing.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:24 | Link to Comment Snakeeyes
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Not surprising. Much of the debt growth was auto and it had to peak sometime. Today's number don't help.

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/08/30/jobless-claims-stuck-at-dec-12-level-consumer-confidence-remains-weak/

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:25 | Link to Comment Conman
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I smell cash for clunkers 2.0 in 2013.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:03 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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cash for clunkers 1.0 was summer 2009

summer 2013 should be about right

plus, the trade-in will be on newer vehicles that track your position, transcribe your conversations, detect your pulse and alcohol levels and sniff for residual gunpowder and pharmaceuticals. and cash. and check your rfid/licenseNumber. for your own protection.

also, it will drive you. automatically. for your own protection. to a safe place we have prepared. you'll like it. do not tamper with the restraint system. 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:41 | Link to Comment SoCalBusted
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CarMax keeps sending me mail...

"Hey it's been 6 years since you bought a car, don't you want a new one by now"

Not to mention that when I bought it in 2006 it was already 4 years old!  160K miles and still runs fine.  Government will probably want me to turn it in, especially since it is a V8 SUV.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Dr. Gonzo
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My "82" Deville isn't going to last forever. I'll be in the market for a new car in 10 years or so.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:26 | Link to Comment Pairadimes
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Channel officially stuffed! More dealership parking lots, stat!

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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There are still a few empty strip mall and failed restaurant parking lots around here to fill up.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:59 | Link to Comment jay28elle
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only a few?  geesh, you guys must be doing well up there.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:28 | Link to Comment tuttisaluti
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bernie just looks at the beige book. No QE in this case.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:29 | Link to Comment Inthemix96
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Heres a real fine alternative to the electric cars.

I have been working on this in my fully tooled workshop for twenty years.  The wooden car.  Environmentally friendly, fully re-useable motor.

It has a wooden chassis, and a wooden engine, with leather bound wooden seats, and fully customisable wooden accesories.

The only problem is, it woodnt go, and woodnt work.

Electric anyone?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Sisyphus
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Woodnt go and woodnt work, but wood it cum?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:28 | Link to Comment Inthemix96
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Some bloke from Amerika bought the patent off me, guy by the name of Barry Sotero.

Reckons its a dead cert.  Mind I thought he was high faluting when he said he was gonna pump 500 Billion yank bucks into it and secure amerikas future, but alas what the fuck would I know.

Just sold him it as a bit of profit, I now have 600 billion yank bucks in the bank like.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:53 | Link to Comment viahj
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needs a horse

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:29 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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maybe warren has been channel stuffing becky...

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:32 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Better strap a 2x4 across your ass before trying to stuff Becky.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:30 | Link to Comment kito
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what if bernanke lends cars to the federal government instead of dollars? that might fix the system? 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:32 | Link to Comment ejmoosa
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More than 39% of vehicles have more than 100k on them.  And they still can't sell vehicles....

 

http://atlantagasprices.com/Past_Polls.aspx?poll_id=625

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:34 | Link to Comment stant
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GE could buy only so many volts. the rest they sent to somone to buy votes

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:06 | Link to Comment optimator
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Hmmm.  If you park your GE Company Car in your garage and it catches fire and burns down your house killing you and your family does the GE Insurance on that car pay your survivors lots of bucks?  (before or after a jury trial?)

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:36 | Link to Comment docj
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Obama didn't build that. Someone else... made that happen.

< / Blame Bush >

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:43 | Link to Comment Hobbleknee
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Government propaganda has been telling us cars are evil for decades, so isn't this great news?

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:42 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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A) QE next year

B) Why build cars when no one has any money to buy them?

I mean, if I ran a car company, and I saw the stagnating wage levels of the "middle" classes, the levels of debt (and deleveraging) by those in the work force, the millenial tendency of desiring public transportation, and the deflation in certain commodities......on top of the potnetial "EuroBomb" and Fiscal Cliff in the Fall - why in the fuck would I try to expand right now?

There is NOT enough volume to sustain growth in any sector, especially cars.  With "Cash-4-clunkers" gone, the only target for car makers is the affluent, who can (and will) take advantage of the consumer-friendly pricing thanks to the Fail Economy.  And for those like GM who issue loans (some sub-prime) via their loan banks (sharks) like Ally bank so consumers can buy cars......would *I* be confident that they will get paid back with the current economic outlook?

If I wanted to set money on fire, I can just buy $FB shares.

 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Hobbleknee
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The MSM will spin this as an improvement from April 2011.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:50 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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I understand why this might be considered "bad news," but really, it seems to me that it's far better to stop manufacturing cars if none are being sold.

#winning

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:52 | Link to Comment poor fella
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Production will be up soon on the largest SUVs - you know, the really big family-sized ones priced about the size of a decent student loan. With reclining horizontal seats - the ones that you joke about being sooo big, you could actually LIVE in it. When I think of streets lined with large SUVs with tinted windows shaking back and forth in the mornings after alarms go off and kids getting out for school - TRIPLE BULLISH US AUTOS..

Better than vouchers, just park near the best schools.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 11:56 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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Bad news?  BAD NEWS?  From an investment banker perspective looking for the trigger for the next QE this is nothing less than brilliant news, especially coupled with another weak unemployment data set.  Not only will it trigger the required new cascades of hot cash for Wall Street it will handsomely engorge those sums.  Add in the deployment of a lot of Revolutionary Guards from Iran to Syria that the MSM seems to have missed which should do wonders for commodity prices, and we have nothing less than a full giant leap forward on the class war eastern front.  Lebensraum for the elite you know.  You can try to arbiet but it will not macht frie.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/526162_415049101876617_1215841064_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/c38.0.403.403/p403x403/228476_414832801898247_832535238_n.jpg

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Thu, 08/30/2012 - 13:13 | Link to Comment optimator
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I dunno, the bankters are seeing that most of the Sheeples are starting to catch on to their looting of the economy........but then again, they ARE prepared for that too!

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:07 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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Maybe the TSA could invest in car throwing trebuchets.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 12:36 | Link to Comment optimator
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Instead of passing your next dealer, go on in if you can find a place to park.  Seems all the lots are full of new cars leaving NO place to park!  Oh, and next time you're at the VA or any other government facility drive around the parking lot and note all the Volts and Impalas parked in a row without plates.  Me thinks there will be fire sales (no pun intended) on GM vehicles after the election.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 14:02 | Link to Comment JuliaS
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How about a Chevy 110 Volt? Plug it into the wall and drive around the house - about as far as the battery one would go, but for a fraction of the price. Package base models with a standard plug and include an extention cord with premium trims.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 14:22 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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A lot of my Bi friends are buying Volts because they mistakenly believe they are AC/DC.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 14:23 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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OK I deserve the red arrows for that one.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 14:32 | Link to Comment boiltherich
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Lamps, coffee makers, the new toaster, I have bought a lot of stuff in the last couple of years that had really short cords, the new washer/dryer is coming Saturday and the cord is not even included for the dryer, you have to pay extra for it, and the washer hoses, and the dryer flexible ducting, they were $40 more, and you have to buy them new from the store or the warranties on the machines are void they say, plus they will have no liability for a flooded house or a fire unless you are snookered into this expense.  Since when do we have to pay for machines by buying their individual parts?  This is the reverse of hedonics in which they claim inflation is lower because you are getting more for your money through product improvements, what shall we call it?  SHE-donics?  Where you see a pretty package but when you get it home find out it has a bunch of screws loose or missing entirely, and which always costs more than advertized. 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 19:08 | Link to Comment JuliaS
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I understand both, the motivation and the excuse for the power cord dilemma. I'm on the other end with way more cords than devices. The thing is, most consumer goods nowdays don't last long. They all come with cords (power, USB and what not) and now I've accumulated boxes and boxes of all varieties of cables. Whenever I buy a replacement device, I thorw all of the cables into marked bins while keeping wires that were attached to the predecessor.

 The manufacturers want to shave a few cents off each unit and I'm not too upset.

 If anyone asks me for a cord, I just give it to them, so I'm taking care of people in need... at least locally.

 My advise - don't buy cords. Ask around. Someone has more than they need.

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Venerability
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Again, that is BULLISH - because it is more ammunition for the Fed to do some creative things in two weeks.

By the way, I believe tomorrow's speech will be neutral - leaving it open for interpretation as Bullish or Bearish, depending on your preconceived biases.

Dr. Bernanke wants the decision made two weeks from now, not tomorrow, because he wants the Europeans and the Chinese both to act before the Fed does.

But if autos in August - which I believe is a month skewed to weakness, anyway, because buyers are waiting for new models - does indeed come in light, it is that much fuel to the fire for QE of various creative kinds in September.  

 

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Peak Bagger
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The real truth . . . the federal government's fleet purchases in early summer were huge from GM (you know, Government Motors).  In addition, using that Enron accounting, GM records revenue when vehicles go into dealorship inventories as well with inventories in many lines being twice normal this summer.   So the return on the 500 million shares of GM stock owned by American taxpayers, probably a loss of at least $30 billion unless GM stock surpasses $53 per share (probably not in our lifetime) although the company may go bankrupt by then.  Obama's strategy was a few months early (from this and his spending habits, do you think he slept through his math classes?) and he will probably now blame George Bush or George Romney (wasn't he the head of General Motors when it was totally successful) or maybe his son.  I'm running out to buy my Volt before it is too late!!!

Thu, 08/30/2012 - 19:18 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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Too bad, too short a time frame ...

 

it's not the auto industry collapse that is on its way ... maybe next year. (Maybe next month.)

 

 

 

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