More Horrible News For Merkel As German Pirate Party Gets 40% Of CDU Vote In Berlin

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Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:22 | 1681999 Fips_OnTheSpot
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First projection:
CDU 28.7 SPD 23.2 Greens 18.4 Linke 11.5 FDP 2.0 Pirates 8.9

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:25 | 1682011 Market Efficien...
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you flipped CDU and SPD projection numbers.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:27 | 1682018 Fips_OnTheSpot
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Oh, you're right. Sorry - cannot edit any longer.

voter participation: 58 -> 59.5

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:29 | 1682022 markmotive
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Am I living in a horror movie?

This is insane!

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:30 | 1682032's picture

No, it's an episode of Star Trek and you're the guy in the landing party wearing a red shirt.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:53 | 1682090 pain_and_soros
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For some reason, I can't get this image of the German Pirate Party candidates in Berlin wearing those puffy shirts from that Jerry Seinfeld episode, out of my head...

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:55 | 1682099 redpill
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Q: What does the Pirate Party want to take over?

A: PARRRRliament!

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:59 | 1682105 malikai
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+1 You made me actually say it. 

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:14 | 1682138 spiral_eyes
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I congratulate Germans on their good sense this time round. They are switching their vote to piracy, instead of Nazism.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:56 | 1682237 Ahmeexnal
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The terrorist party?

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 15:27 | 1682482 jonjon831983
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They're taking the jobs of the old English Privateers :(

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 16:26 | 1682678 Hephasteus
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I say old chap dey tuk our jobs!!!!

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 15:31 | 1682498 smlbizman
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spiral, looks like you pissed off a nazi...

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:25 | 1682158 Careless Whisper
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Apparently none of the idiots here bothered to click the link to read what the Pirate Party stands for. Since you are all too lazy and are willing to be lead by a bullshit headline/article written by some Tyler wanna-be not worthy of being on this blog; the Pirate Party stands for --- civil liberities, against monoplies, against genetic patents, in favor of open government, and against internet censorship which is to the benefit of morons everywhere.


Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:38 | 1682183 gmrpeabody
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And you based this opinion on what???

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:51 | 1682226 Careless Whisper
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well, ok, maybe here are a few bots like you trying to spread disinfo about the pirate party

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 15:51 | 1682574 Joy on Maui
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He is right.  I just read what the Spiegel had to say about them (The Pirate Party), naming them the sliver of the electorate that all parites most vie for : The young and educated.

THese folks apparently began by taking on internet-related causes and then branched out into "citizen's rights" issues.  THey obviously appealed to voters and are now promising a "breath of fresh air" in the Berlin parliament.  They admit that they have no experience in parliamentary procedure but call themselves "fast learners" - I am totally excited about these guys.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 15:59 | 1682600 bigkahuna
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Go Pirates!!! 

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 14:45 | 1682362 malikai
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I wouldn't jump so fast saying everyone didn't read it. I sure did. And they sound pretty damn cool to me. Sounds like a geek's party. Something I could appreciate.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 08:19 | 1691740 fallout11
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They're basically civil libertarians, Jeffeson would be proud. How can anyone here at ZeroHedge be against freedom?

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:41 | 1682179 Manthong
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lulz :) .. We're all wearing red shirts now.

What end of the death ray are you on if you want to support Ron Paul or End the Fed.


Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:32 | 1682038 Nate H
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please explain to a West coast american what those numbers mean and why they are a 'horror movie'

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:40 | 1682063 Market Efficien...
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see below. This is nothing to start shivering about. As in every larger, established democracy, major policy moves or external shocks in case of missing real eligible alternatives either massively lowers democratic participation levels or shifts votes to protest movements. The Pirates are such a protest movements. Germany has been experiencing this since the reunification in almost any state election, but the most important point is, none of these movements have really lasted due to a lack of constructive policy.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:54 | 1682094 redpill
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Shiver me timbers!

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:16 | 1682141 disabledvet
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Sounds like chaos to me. Very "un-German" and something Helmut Kohl alluded to to me when he criticized Ms Merkel's "anti-Europe'ness." a good criticism i might add. A centralized Germany is a relatively new construct. The emergence of a "states right" Germanicus would be a profound change indeed as it is the centralized variant that basically is the EU right. Now everyone say ARRRRRRrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhh.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 15:09 | 1682422 Market Efficien...
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Well, one may have different views about Kohl's achievements but his problem has always been a limited instrumental toolbox. To me, he now is very much worried about his legacy, a politically and economically united Europe. His toolbox was both domestically and internationally very much limited to massive log-rolling and - in the long term and regarding structure - pretty risky concessions. He 'mastered' the reunification, quickly shifting the public eye from the structural issues that remained for long. It was a risky move then, and he reiterated that same move with the Euro. The lose contracts and opportunities for moral hazard by peripheral countries seem to have been his concessions to these countries so the would accept a loss of flexibility and competitiveness especially in the case of economic downturn and a loss of the right to print. As with the reunification, the structural flaws remained, only this time is won't turn out that lucky.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 15:55 | 1682587 TK7936
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Why insane ? Maybe the poeple realized the banks are pirates so we need a ship too!

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:24 | 1682006 e_goldstein
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Pirates > Banksters

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:55 | 1682097 Uncle Remus
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Hmm - I thought the "pirates" were the freetard party.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:56 | 1682235 Spirit Of Truth
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Really....aren't pirates already in charge?

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 18:27 | 1683008 Zero Govt
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Yes absolutely ..when your society has a centralist monopoly (Govt) as its 'authority' and not a free society based on individualism it is by nature already absolutely corrupt

Centralising authority (ie. a power grab) in Govt is the very anathama and enemy of our individual freedom. The Pirate Party promoting 'freedom' and 'open Govt' is an oxymoron. All Parties/politicians promoting both are stupid and completely naive (ie. born yesterday/stupid)

If you truly want freedom you don't want any form of Govt. Period

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 19:18 | 1683138 slewie the pi-rat
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no, mr goodie-two-shoes, those are criminals, not pirates 

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:24 | 1682008 Long-John-Silver
Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:28 | 1682023's picture

Roberto Clemente, bitchez!

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:15 | 1682140 Bam_Man
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I'll see you a Willie Stargell and raise you a Ralph Kiner.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 17:07 | 1682826 pain_and_soros
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How could you leave out Honus Wagner, perhaps the most famous German Pirate (or at least the one with the most valuable baseball card)?

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:51 | 1682084 Seb
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You are a day too early. International talk like a pirate day is tomorrow, September 19th.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:42 | 1682192 slewie the pi-rat
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everyday is pirate day

if you BE a pi-rat!



Sun, 09/18/2011 - 18:42 | 1683060 saulysw
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+1 for the widest post of the thread.

Mon, 09/19/2011 - 06:26 | 1683806 BorisTheBlade
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Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:31 | 1682036's picture

seems the pirate party site is down


They forgot to raise the mainsail.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:38 | 1682054 Earl of Chiswick
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and the Junge Piraten


google translate of the  kinders  site

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:06 | 1682123 11b40
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No wonder that these Pirates are bad news for the status quo.  Maybe we need an International Pirates Party.

Party Platform


The party supports the preservation of current civil rights in telephony and on the Internet; in particular, it opposes the European data retention policies and Germany's new Internet censorship law called Zugangserschwerungsgesetz. It also opposes artificial monopolies and various measures of surveillance of citizens.

The party favors the civil right to information privacy and reforms of copyright, education, computer science and genetic patents.

It promotes in particular an enhanced transparency of government by implementing open source governance and providing for APIs to allow for electronic inspection and monitoring of government operations by the citizen.[3]


Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:56 | 1682211 slewie the pi-rat
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now, that is "bizarre"

thxz mucho, ground-pounder!


Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:31 | 1682035 bugs_
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Pirates are certainly more interesting than banksters.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:45 | 1682070's picture

Die Dreigroschenoper: Lotte Lenya Singing "Seeräuber Jenny" (Pirate Jenny)

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:33 | 1682039 Market Efficien...
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As in almost all larger German cities, CDU plays an inferior role. Concerning the pirate party, it's actually a constantly reshuffling group of people and interests without a strong political message. But that vote in a larger context indeed shows what frustration level there is among the people with the political establishment and their approach to the macro-economic issues that truely matter.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:34 | 1682043 ISEEIT
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Not a problemo. Just call the pirates terrorist and enemies of the state. Racist might work too but I'm not so sure the whole racist dynamic is so much in play over there?

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:35 | 1682045 Tense INDIAN
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dissapointed with the weekend...was expecting more bearish news out of Europe..

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