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More 'Like' Obama Even As They Admit Romney Better For Economy, Gallup Finds

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With the polls apparently seeing it all tied up at 46-46 (and heading into the period when McCain and Obama diverged so strongly in 2008), a recent Gallup poll brings up the age-old question of whether the electorate will vote with their hearts or their wallets. Only in a Facebook-world; but 54% 'like' Obama versus 31% 'like' Romney but this huge social-network-factor disappears when asked who will better handle the economy - 52% believe Romney will be better for the economy as opposed to 43% believing in Obama. Of course none of that matters if the market remains up here.

Like vs Love?



And it is this time of year when these differences start showing up... In 2008, McCain and Obama were also tied...


Charts: Gallup


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Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:12 | 2734310 bank guy in Brussels
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Not a dime's worth of difference

- George Wallace, American Presidential Candidate, long-time racial extremist and populist, speaking about candidates from the US' two major parties

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:12 | 2734320 francis_sawyer
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 "A nickle ain't worth a dime anymore"

~ Yogi Berra

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:15 | 2734336 climber
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always upvote yogi berra quotes as a matter of principle.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:20 | 2734347 Precious
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There isn't an ounce of altruism in Obama's body.  It's all about him.  He can't even be bothered with his own siblings.  Does anyone really believe they matter to this guy?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:25 | 2734355 malikai
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When it comes to these elections, I don't take any polls for shit. Instead, I look at where people put their money. Such as it is, the current "real poll" shows Obama in the lead.

I'm not sure if you guys stateside can view it, but the odds are as follows:

Obama: 1.59

Romney: 2.84

Paul: 140

The lower the better.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:35 | 2734387 Kitler
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I wonder how much more money Sheldon Adelson could make if he was actually placing massive bets on Obama and then outed Romney as a Neo-Nazi transvestite?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:17 | 2734589 Precious
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Obama's campaign message is essentially, "I'm just like you.  I'm broke too.  Lets stop those evil forces that are keeping us all broke."

Take a minute if you can bear, and listen to his speeches.  All the same "poor little me" rhetoric.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:17 | 2735221 madcows
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Nah, that's just the addicted gamblers opinion.  I'm putting a dollar on Ru Paul.  It's paying out at a trillion to one.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:36 | 2734404 Buckaroo Banzai
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Your premise depends on the assumption that the typical American can actually discern what should be obvious. The typical American is meaningfully handicapped in 3 ways:

1) It is highly likely they are directly dependent on at least one, and probably multiple, direct transfer payments from FedGov.

2) The MSM is actively covering up the truth about Obama.

3) the k-12 and higher education systems have programmed them with socialist values for the last 50 years.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:48 | 2734460 Spastica Rex
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The American public school system has programmed citizens to be uncritical, fearful, conformist, and insatiablly materialistic. If those are "socialist" values, I agree with you. I tend to think that these are the values desired by the marketing establishment.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:07 | 2734547 LMAOLORI
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Judging from this report the public school system has trained them to be morons

Like vs Love?


More like Like vs Stupid if people think romney is better for the economy they would be stupid to vote for obama


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:18 | 2734608 Michael
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A commenter from yesterday had some great insight on this subject;

Political implications of the future currency crisis:

 FACT IS >>>>> WE ARE GOING OFF A CLIFF WITH EITHER OBAMA OR ROMNEY.  It is too late to change course.  And Repubs endorsing a gold standard is laughable.  We are looking at a currency collapse in the next few years.  As soon as we loose our reserve currency status, our rates will spike and we will be TOAST.

Given that a majority of the US public is very uneducated from an economic standpoint, they are very likely going to blame this collapse on the politics on who is currently in office.  I think we can agree that neither Obama nor Romney are going enact measures that will prevent this collapse.

Therefore, we need to ask our selves the following:  Do we want an economic collapse under an “Overt Socialist” i.e. Obama?  Or do we want the collapse during the administration of a RINO that supposedly (at least in the minds of the ignorant US public) stands for Free Market Capitalism?

I am scared of a back lash against Free Market Capitalism if the Economic Collapse happens during Romney’s administration.  This could very well lead to the government enacting much harsher economic controls and lead to a totalitarianism state. 

 But if the Economic Collapse happens during the Obama administration, then the US public will more likely see the actual writing on the wall and finally return to Free Markets.

Therefore I will be voting for the man that is the furthest from my point of view.  Obama.  I think a collapse in his term would be better, he will get the blame and rightly so.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:15 | 2735210 madcows
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I blame every politician that voted yes on an unbalanced budget, abstained on that vote, or didn't even develop a budget to vote on.
Blaming only the current president, past president, etc... based on political bias is worthy of losing the right to vote.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:04 | 2734538 Watauga
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Are you saying he is Black Narcissus?

Of course he is.  He has been since Day One, back in the van smokin' "the good stuff."  He is a liar, a cheater, and a master deceiver.  How else could he have become President?

A puppet manipulated by his puppet masters, but willingly so because he truly is all about Barack.

Anybody who votes for this fool is, unfortunately, insane.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 15:20 | 2734924 Ruffcut
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Do you lose sight that all these politicos are attention whore bad actors?

They have use "two sides" like a competitive match. 

"Hey moron, you are always supposed to pick sides."

And for those who actually feel that bad vibe can opt out of the bullshit, which they really prefer.

Fuckers, are really good at this.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:41 | 2734734 Random_Robert
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Obama has only one half-sibling... Maya Soetoro

That George guy over in Africa shares no DNA with the President (unless he also happens to be another red-diaper baby of Frank Marshall Davis)



Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:22 | 2734356 Stackers
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"Vote for whoever you want to. This is a free dictatorship"

Moon Over Parador

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:48 | 2734771 Offthebeach
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Greeks and Romans voted in official dictators. After taking power as Fuhrer he held a confirming, open election and won it.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:54 | 2734489 Uncle Remus
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Met the man once. Looks just like his picture.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:23 | 2734363 timbo_em
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But soon a Nickel will be worth more than five cent.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:36 | 2734408 Buckaroo Banzai
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Actually I think it already does.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:37 | 2734411 Papasmurf
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It already is.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:00 | 2734516 BooMushroom
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It's a fraction of a cent off.

$1.96 per $2 roll of nickels.

Check back tomorrow, though ;)

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:25 | 2734370 WatchnSee
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If you can't see any differance, please stay home on Nov 2. The current regime needs to go.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:40 | 2734426 Anusocracy
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Like there's a difference between evil and stupid and stupid and evil.


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:55 | 2734492 Uncle Remus
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Does order of operation matter?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:10 | 2734563 Watauga
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There is.  Evil is intended.  Stupid is simply stupid--inadvertant.  But the question for so many ZHers is which of the two is more evil and which is more stupid and, in the end, does it matter which is elected?  

I won't support Barack Hussein Obama for a thousand reasons, all of which have been noted here and on other sites over the last 5 years (yes, well before the electorate imposed him on us).  I won't support him with my direct vote, and I won't support him by voting for a third party or write-in candidate.  

My question, personally, is whether I cross into the realm of voting for Romney in order to rid the nation of Barack Hussein Obama?  That is a much tougher call.  As of now, I think it is very important to do so, but I cannot say that I support him or believe in him or think that he will make a huge difference.  But I live in a major swing state and every vote will make a difference, so I likely will vote for Romney, as much as I despise the Republican and Democrat histories of failure and destruction.  

In the end, a failure to vote becomes a vote for Barack Hussein Obama, and I could not live with myself if I did not do all that I could to defeat the Socialist, Statist, Collectivist tyrant.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 15:10 | 2734877 Anusocracy
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Evil and stupid are both wired into your head.

If you vote, you are letting the evil and stupid dictate your actions.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:59 | 2734511 sgt_doom
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"52% believe Romney will be better for the economy "

This is the debt queen who offshores jobs (and a piece of the GDP with each job), and destroys companies to enrich himself and his gang?

Must be the same members of the electorate, or their spawn, who voted for Nixon, Reagan, and the Bushes (and Clinton, et al.).

It's either Dr. Jill Stein or doom.....

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:14 | 2734581 Watauga
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So, Sarge, you vote for Bammy and he runs the country into his infinitely expanding black hole of debt, regulation, and collectivism?

I don't care if the guy is the Second Coming of Reagan or even W (Heavan forbid)--he ain't Barack Hussein Obama and he ain't pure, unadulterated evil.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:15 | 2734585 madcows
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You're right, it would have been better to let the companies go bankrupt and let ALL employees lose their job.  Please stop following Chris Matthews and Rachel Madow.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:13 | 2734313 Boilermaker
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I love the fact that people actually think it's going to make a difference to thier lives.

The financial elite wear the pants.  Who the puppet is matters little.  It's amazing that people actually get sucked into the red/blue or donkey/elephant camps like braindead asswipes.  Then, cheer like it's a football game and their candidate is scoring TDs.


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:23 | 2734349 njdoo7
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Feeling good is what it's all about.  You cannot feel good when you seriously assess this reality.

Unfortunately, I forsee this continuing to ellude humanity as a species (not just in this country).

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:12 | 2734567 Anusocracy
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Feeling good is certainly what it's all about: "but subjects got a blast of activation in circuits involved in reward -- similar to what addicts receive when they get their fix"


Emory study lights up the political brain

When it comes to forming opinions and making judgments on hot political issues, partisans of both parties don't let facts get in the way of their decision-making, according to a new Emory University study. The research sheds light on why staunch Democrats and Republicans can hear the same information, but walk away with opposite conclusions.

The investigators used functional neuroimaging (fMRI) to study a sample of committed Democrats and Republicans during the three months prior to the U.S. Presidential election of 2004. The Democrats and Republicans were given a reasoning task in which they had to evaluate threatening information about their own candidate. During the task, the subjects underwent fMRI to see what parts of their brain were active. What the researchers found was striking.

"We did not see any increased activation of the parts of the brain normally engaged during reasoning," says Drew Westen, director of clinical psychology at Emory who led the study. "What we saw instead was a network of emotion circuits lighting up, including circuits hypothesized to be involved in regulating emotion, and circuits known to be involved in resolving conflicts." Westen and his colleagues will present their findings at the Annual Conference of the Society for Personality and Social Psychology Jan. 28.

Once partisans had come to completely biased conclusions -- essentially finding ways to ignore information that could not be rationally discounted -- not only did circuits that mediate negative emotions like sadness and disgust turn off, but subjects got a blast of activation in circuits involved in reward -- similar to what addicts receive when they get their fix, Westen explains.

"None of the circuits involved in conscious reasoning were particularly engaged," says Westen. "Essentially, it appears as if partisans twirl the cognitive kaleidoscope until they get the conclusions they want, and then they get massively reinforced for it, with the elimination of negative emotional states and activation of positive ones."

During the study, the partisans were given 18 sets of stimuli, six each regarding President George W. Bush, his challenger, Senator John Kerry, and politically neutral male control figures such as actor Tom Hanks. For each set of stimuli, partisans first read a statement from the target (Bush or Kerry). The first statement was followed by a second statement that documented a clear contradiction between the target's words and deeds, generally suggesting that the candidate was dishonest or pandering.

Next, partisans were asked to consider the discrepancy, and then to rate the extent to which the person's words and deeds were contradictory. Finally, they were presented with an exculpatory statement that might explain away the apparent contradiction, and asked to reconsider and again rate the extent to which the target's words and deeds were contradictory.

Behavioral data showed a pattern of emotionally biased reasoning: partisans denied obvious contradictions for their own candidate that they had no difficulty detecting in the opposing candidate. Importantly, in both their behavioral and neural responses, Republicans and Democrats did not differ in the way they responded to contradictions for the neutral control targets, such as Hanks, but Democrats responded to Kerry as Republicans responded to Bush.

While reasoning about apparent contradictions for their own candidate, partisans showed activations throughout the orbital frontal cortex, indicating emotional processing and presumably emotion regulation strategies. There also were activations in areas of the brain associated with the experience of unpleasant emotions, the processing of emotion and conflict, and judgments of forgiveness and moral accountability.

Notably absent were any increases in activation of the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain most associated with reasoning (as well as conscious efforts to suppress emotion). The finding suggests that the emotion-driven processes that lead to biased judgments likely occur outside of awareness, and are distinct from normal reasoning processes when emotion is not so heavily engaged, says Westen.

The investigators hypothesize that emotionally biased reasoning leads to the "stamping in" or reinforcement of a defensive belief, associating the participant's "revisionist" account of the data with positive emotion or relief and elimination of distress. "The result is that partisan beliefs are calcified, and the person can learn very little from new data," Westen says.

The study has potentially wide implications, from politics to business, and demonstrates that emotional bias can play a strong role in decision-making, Westen says. "Everyone from executives and judges to scientists and politicians may reason to emotionally biased judgments when they have a vested interest in how to interpret 'the facts,' " Westen says.




Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:24 | 2734368 NotApplicable
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Reminds me of Chris Rock's observations on the OJ acquittal, and all of the "We won!" cheering in the streets of the black community.

"We won? What did we win? There's no prize in my mailbox."

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:30 | 2734382 ParkAveFlasher
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...and while they cheer the football game, their wealth is Sandusky'd in a steamy bank back office.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:32 | 2734386 surf0766
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Who care what CR says

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:11 | 2734566 madcows
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The angry black man that blames the white guy for everything. 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:09 | 2734552 BooMushroom
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And then they tell me I'm racist.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:13 | 2734577 HardAssets
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Many probably have already seen this talk by George Carlin - - but it always makes me smile. George had it right:

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:26 | 2734653 Watauga
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I have grown weary of this standard, sheep-like baahing on ZH.  It doesn't make a difference.  They are both puppets and the puppet masters remain the same.  Baaahh.  Baaahh.  Talk about a herd mentality.

I almost hate to say it, but I think that most of ZH has become a place for whiners to come and offer one-liners they believe to be some kind of intellectual zingers that prove how smart and with-it they are.  

Never any hard work on analysis.  Never any attempt to look at the record and analyze exactly why Romney and Ryan, whle far less than perfect, may be better for the country, and our lives, than Barack Hussein Obama and senile, sad Joe Biden.  

Obama--double the debt in 3 and 1/2 years; trillion dollar deficits all years; "stimulus"; regulations that stifle business and crush liberty; rule by fiat (Executive Order), defying the Consitution and the laws he has sworn to execute; will raise taxes across the board, in spite of his lies to the contrary; appointment of federal judges, including Supreme Court justices, who are collectivist, Statist tools of the Left; destruction of civil liberties day-by-day-by-day; identity and divisive politics; constant lies and propaganda; and a plan to do more, and more, and more to bring about his vision of collectivist, totalitarian State.

Romney--will attempt to arrest the growth of government, or at least slow it down; will NOT raise taxes; will not destroy the 1st and 2nd Amendments; will NOT appoint the Sonia Soto-Mayors of the world to the Supreme Court (yes, yes, I know all about Breyer. . .); likely will bring about some semblance of stability and predictability whereby business can plan and predict, resulting in growth, jobs, and massive increases in revenue without raising taxes.  

If we want to help bring about effective change, I suspect the best thing to do is not lie on our mother's sofas in the basement whining on ZH about how Romney is Obama is Ryan is Biden.  Maybe better to get active, kick the Tea Party's ass and get it back into full-speed operations, shift it to an emphasis on greater liberty, greater respect for private property, and greater commitment to reduce the federal government dramatically, and hope to force Romney-Ryan to represent what you say you want.


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:13 | 2734321 madcows
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Yeah, I dunno.  I'm not buying that Obama is more likeable than Romney.

Obama is a lying, cheating, conniving Chicago thug and that's more likeable than Mormon or Rich detached guy?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:37 | 2734414 Buckaroo Banzai
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You forgot: Marxist and Muslim.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:44 | 2734440 bobnoxy
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Yeah, that's right, he's a Muslim, and his Christian pastor of 20 years is a terrorist!

Have you ever had an original thought that worked out?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:10 | 2735183 Buckaroo Banzai
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If you think Jeffrey Wright is Christian, you don't have the slightest clue about Christ.

Regarding original thoughts... Here's one for you: you're a fucking douchebag.

Oh wait, I'm sorry. I sincerely doubt that's an ORIGINAL thought. I'm sure plenty of people had it before me.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 17:22 | 2735441 bobnoxy
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Actually, it's Jeremiah Wright, dumb shit. Like everything else you get wrong in here. Laughable, which I have been all day, so, thanks!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:13 | 2734323 mr1963
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Like = afraid to be seen as a racist...

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:19 | 2734325 Dr. Engali
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I don't suppose the fact that Holder is suing Gallup polling has any sway on the outcome of this poll. Not that it makes a difference anyway they're both one and the same.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:13 | 2734326 mrktwtch2
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doesnt really matter which one wins as they are both "establishment" just sure we will somehow get stuck paying more taxes as we watch our freedoms get eroded away..more..

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:14 | 2734328 Let The Wurlitz...
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The average person does not give a crap about Barry, when they are polled they are compelled to say they like him for fear of being called racist.  Its utter nonsense.  I dont "like" Barry but I also dont "hate" him.  In fact if he disapeared tomorrow I could care less. 


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:14 | 2734331 _ConanTheLibert...
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I got one word to summarize Americans: hypocrites

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:15 | 2734333 A Lunatic
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Let's have a DWTS Presidential candidate edition to decide this election.............

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:16 | 2734337 pbracken
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Only fuckwit Yanks would vote for Romney. It's no suprise well over half of Americans still believe in Genesis - because only that level of credulity could elect an intellectually challenged candiate.


Obama's your man. 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:22 | 2734357 john39
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voting is for the fools who haven't figured out (yet) that they system is rigged and has been for a long time.   argue with people about this all the time... years of programming has had its affect, people just can't let go of the american "dream" and see that, its really a nightmre.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:07 | 2734546 madcows
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Do you have another option?  Move to Venezuela perhaps?  Otherwise you're just ranting.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:32 | 2734385 Hedgetard55
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Wish we could vote for Nigel Farage. Maybe Obama's peeps can gin up a birth certificate for him claiming he was born in Boston.


As for Obama being "my man", sorry, Reggie Love has first dibs on that.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:39 | 2734420 WatchnSee
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Tell me this when you start paying the 21 new taxes that kick in January and your employer (if you are employed) has turning you over to Omamacare. And how about that student loan? Talk about a uninformed fuckwit.........

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:47 | 2734457 bobnoxy
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Nope, actually, Southern Rednecks with or without their GED's will vote for him almost unanimously, as they always do for Republicans. The challenge here is simple; what do they know that you don't.

It's documented that right wing voters are less intelligent and less educated. Scare them enough about gays, Mexicans or ''Islamofascists'' moving in next door and you got 'em!

Luckily, no thinking required.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:59 | 2734508 AT
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Documented where?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:02 | 2734529 bobnoxy
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You can start here.

Or you can just revert to sterotypes. As in, your average university professor. More likely a liberal or a conservative? Now, that dumb shit Redneck with a GED. More likely a liberal or conservative?

The difference as to education and I.Q.? Ballpark it.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 21:13 | 2735999 Blankenstein
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"As in, your average university professor. More likely a liberal or a conservative? Now, that dumb shit Redneck with a GED. More likely a liberal or conservative?

The difference as to education and I.Q.?"



Do you include yourself in the brainier, more educated group?  Just curious, because one would think those with such high intelligence would have superior grammar and an extensive vocabulary; and never would use incomplete sentences.  One should probably do some introspection before labeling others a "dumb shit" [sic].

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:00 | 2734518 DownByTheRiver
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obvious troll : red/blue is for kids !

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:03 | 2734532 bobnoxy
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Tell it to the Supreme Court, Congress, billionaire campaign donors, and anyone watching Fox News or MSNBC.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:07 | 2734545 akak
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Correction: the red/blue game is for idiots and sociopaths seeking power.

Which of those two camps do YOU fall into?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:12 | 2734568 bobnoxy
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Oh, so hurtful. Tell me, what do you know about our government, poiltical and legal system that Supreme Court justices, members of Congress, and billionaire campaign donors don't?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:23 | 2734628 HardAssets
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probably on the govt (that is, taxpayer robbed) payroll. - maybe even in public 'education'

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:39 | 2734715 bobnoxy
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Wrong yet again. Own a successful small business. I know, shocking, huh?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:17 | 2734606 BooMushroom
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It takes a very intelligent and educated guy to explain why you should have more people with guns looking over your shoulder telling you exactly what you must and must not do.

Any old redneck can figure out what he wants to do, all by himself. It takes a well-educated, more intelligent person to feel like they need a focus group to determine which committee should tell them how to feel about their choices.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:25 | 2734651 bobnoxy
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Brilliant! No really, I get it now. Suddenly, it's all so clear!

The dumbest among us are really the smartest, and the smartest, best educated are really the dumbest. Why didn't I think of that? How could I have missed it?!

Maybe you should find a small, backwater school with Redneck teachers to send your grandkids to, and us liberals will send ours to schools taught by ''well educated, intelligent people'', and we'll see how that all works out, okay?

How could that possibly go wrong for you, huh?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:31 | 2734677 akak
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To the troll formerly known as Max Fischer, now BobNoxious,

You can change your handle here as many times as you like, but your rabidly hateful, illogical, dishonest, disingenuous nature will always make your real identity obvious to those who have been here any length of time.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:33 | 2734684 bobnoxy
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Brilliant! Now, who's Max Fischer?

As for '' your rabidly hateful, illogical, dishonest, disingenuous nature'', what specifically did you want to talk about?


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 15:07 | 2734863 akak
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Oh what righteous indignation!


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:20 | 2734615 HardAssets
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another 'right' versus 'left' fool

theyre all the same - - crooks who love robbing you and being on a power trip. Grow up.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:18 | 2734343 Hype Alert
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Why not, the market seems to think printing money is going to fix everything.  It's a crazy world.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:18 | 2734344 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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People also "like" their servitude.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:21 | 2734352 Global Hunter
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can I have some peas with my servitude please?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:30 | 2734381 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Only because you said "please".

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:20 | 2734346 Cognitive Dissonance
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I <heart> pushing Obama's "like" button.


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:22 | 2734354 FieldingMellish
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What's not to like about free money? Although, I wonder how people will feel if Romney starts a debt-funded war with Iran? They are two sides of the same coin people...

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:24 | 2734367 john39
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Paul Ryan says that we can't cut the military budget because it would hurt "the economy"...   but cutting the billions of dollars that flow through entitlements to directly to american citizens some how will not hurt "the economy".  go figure, that's why smart people run stuff.  /s

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:22 | 2734358 dolph9
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As has been the pattern since 2000, the presidential election will be close with one man winning because he manages to get a few more key toss up states, while the solid red and blue ones remain that way.

It could go either way but my bet is on Obama getting a 2nd term with a manufactured stock market crash shortly thereafter.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:44 | 2734445 Turin Turambar
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I acutally think Romney is going to win in a landslide.  The closer you get towards election day, the more the undecided independents will break towards the challenger, Romney.  Obama is going to get his arse handed to him.  The sad part is that while the American people recognize that something is seriously wrong, they run to the wrong person.  There's not much difference at all between Obama and Romney.  Ron Paul is the only candidate who was running that would've actually implemented changes, but look how the establishment marginalized him.  Oh well, I'll take care of me and mine.  Let the asshats who vote for either of these bozos learn the hard way.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:02 | 2734528 madcows
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Paul thinks Iran should have nukes.  I agree with him on almost everything else, but Iran with Nukes is crazy.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:10 | 2734559 akak
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Haven't quite disconnected from the FOX/Neocon warmongering propaganda feed yet, eh?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:16 | 2734599 madcows
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Don't have cable.  Don't watch Fox news.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:29 | 2734666 akak
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Well, it is clearly still leaking in somehow.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:37 | 2734703 TheFourthStooge-ing
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akak said:

Well, it is clearly still leaking in somehow.

It's the holes in his head.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 15:15 | 2734901 monad
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Peer pressure. Upgrade or move... 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:38 | 2734706 madcows
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Look it up from the debates.  Paul thinks a nuclear Iran would make the region more stable. 

I think that's crazy.  Iran is a terrorist nation.  Their stated goal is to wipe western civilization off the map.

If you're okay with that, that's your prerogative.  I think it's crazy.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:43 | 2734732 akak
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Iran is a terrorist nation. Their stated goal is to wipe western civilization off the map.

I stand corrected.

The FOX/Neocon warmongering propaganda is not merely still leaking into your head --- it is flooding in in a cascade of blithering idiocy.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:51 | 2734788 madcows
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right, the west is the terrorists.  Ron Paul is great.  All would be good in the world if we didn't have the Rothechilds pulling all the strings.  Fact is fiction, fiction is fact.  Only Akak knows the truth and can see. Follow Akak to the little white room.

I'm the fool, I know.  The Jew hating Rotheschild/Bilderber Banker conspiracy following ron paul dry leg humpers have already told me.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:43 | 2734740 TheFourthStooge-ing
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madcows keeps chugging that kool-aid, by jingo.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:23 | 2734361 lizzy36
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Spend $1B trying to delinate the 1% difference between the two.

To repeat.....the only difference between these two is "USE OF PROCEEDS" plans.

Lots of bullshit rhetoric .......yawn......and debt/GDP still goes to 130% by 2016. 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:33 | 2734393 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Yeah well maybe if Central Planners like Ben Bernanke and Mark Carney didn't bail out corporations then we wouldn't have the debt/gdp problem.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:40 | 2734727 TheFourthStooge-ing
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lizzy36 said:

Spend $1B trying to delinate the 1% difference between the two.

That's not it at all, lizzy. The campaigns are just a clever way to launder money. The Super PACs make it even easier, because that money is untraceable.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:24 | 2734364 Bay of Pigs
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Spanky and Buckwheat...


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:00 | 2734512 madcows
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Alfalfa and buckwheat....

If it was Chris Christie then you could say Spanky.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:34 | 2734688 Anusocracy
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Pharaoh and hunter-gatherer alpha male.

The 10,000 year war.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:25 | 2734369 “Rebellion to t...
“Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God.”-ThomasJefferson's picture

Let's see, respondants to these question are A)Uneducated, B) Regular McDonalds shoppers, C)Huge fans of entitlements, D) Believe everything they read, (if they can read) and see on television, E) All of the above

Let's hope these people are too busy to vote this coming election.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:55 | 2734488 madcows
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Don't eat fast food

Don't like entitlements

Don't have a cable tv.

I do read.  Rothechilds and Bilderbergs control all.  Psy-Cops coming to get me.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:26 | 2734372 kito
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the republicrat/demuplican two headed oligarchy will do whatever it takes to keep itself cares not for issues, cares not for truth, cares not for the welfare of its constiutents, cares not for the principles this country was founded on, IT CARES ONLY FOR ITS SURVIVAL........


tyler, with your vast audience, perhaps you should be performing your civic duty by exposing other candidates to the world......merely focusing on obama and romney as much as you do only perpetuates the myth that there is a choice only between these two peas of a exposure of obamaromney, regardless of the light they are painted in, is still exposure.........tyler, the more you mention these two "candidates" the more you legitimize them as newsworthy.........perhaps you should be covering gary johnson for a while? you might actually wake up some of the financial pinheads who tune into your site..............

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:31 | 2734383 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Which direction is gold headed, Kito?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:34 | 2734397 kito
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east, to asia.................

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:38 | 2734412 Kitler
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^ Post of the day

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:51 | 2734475 Uncle Remus
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Go east young padawan.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:52 | 2734792 Anusocracy
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"An organism is a collection of problem solving devices - adaptations - that were shaped over evolutionary time to promote, in some specific way, the survival of the genes that directed their construction,"  D. Symons

Those brain cells in the Elites just have to survive and the rest us us be damned.

Time to change that.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:31 | 2734384 buzzsaw99
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politics is boring and pointless

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:39 | 2734424 Buckaroo Banzai
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Unfortunately it has real consequences.

Not that you can influence them. But it does.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:48 | 2734461 Uncle Remus
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Or maybe the point is just hollow.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:39 | 2734421 Turin Turambar
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Personally, I don't care for either of the two, but I wish the lying media would give this a rest.  Barry being popular?  People don't like his policies, but he's personally likeable?  Give it a rest!  What a bunch of propagandist BS.  Obama has got to be one of the most arrogant, aloof, condescending, nasty people I can ever recall being in the public eye.  Oh yeah, he's a great liar, but that's not something that makes a person "likeable" in my book.  lol

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:23 | 2735231 madcows
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49% of the population has received government benefits of some kind.  Keep that in mind when you look at the likeable numbers.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:47 | 2734439 boiltherich
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Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:47 | 2734454 boiltherich
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If Romney has any hope of winning this will be the reason why.

Add in grossly under-reported inflation and this chart is a lot worse.  Add in loss of residential equity and it starts to look like a depression.  Add in real un/underemployment and millions being kicked off of extended benefits and... well why bother trying to deny this is a depression?  Might not be as bad as the great depression (yet) but it is still a depression. 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:47 | 2734456 Uncle Remus
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Strong in the Obama, Hopey-Changey is.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:55 | 2734800 Anusocracy
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Strong in either, Ropey-Chainy is.

Wear them lightly.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:49 | 2734470 Ignorance is bliss
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If there was a 3rd option such as they both suck. How many would have picked that option?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 13:50 | 2734474 pragmatic hobo
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fuck obummney. I'm voting for Ralph.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:05 | 2734541 Cognitive Dissonance
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Ralph "To The Moon Alice" Kramden? The bankers will love that. :)

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:02 | 2734509 NuYawkFrankie
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Re ..Romney Better For Economy, Gallup Finds.


If a tax-evading, job-destroying, corporate asset-stripper is "better for the economy"....  then, quite simply: God Help Us.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:08 | 2734549 MFLTucson
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What do u pupose more totalitarian rule under Obama?

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:26 | 2734652 NuYawkFrankie
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I propose Withdrawing Your Consent from both of these jokers.

A good start would be to have a mass Vote Boycott

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:03 | 2734536 ejmoosa
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Everyone has a friend they like to keep around that makes themselves feel smarter or better looking.

For the majority of the poll takers, that seems to be Barry at this time. 

But sooner or later, when we realize our friend is costing us too much, we cut them loose...



Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:07 | 2734548 Cognitive Dissonance
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Or they cut us loose.........

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:15 | 2734564 pazmaker
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Should vote for


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:13 | 2734571 itsallajoke
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Psychopaths and pathological liars -- it's what the government attracts..  You have to be a psychopath to want to try and run and control an entire population WILLINGLY!


Let's nominate the last person on the planet who wants to be President.  Quick, find me someone with common sense, and a balanced checkbook!

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:21 | 2734623 madcows
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I'd like to add Narcisist and Control Freak to the list.  Note, they are mostly all lawyers.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:14 | 2734578 Duke of Con Dao
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heys my cruddy vid mash on the Romney... 

YouTube - Flip-Flop Monkey and Mitt Romney square off against each other. (a Re-imagining by Jean Luc Godard)

you gotta admit - that monkey is stellar! (no relation to that Miami monkey)

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:16 | 2734593 robertocarlos
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Once you go black, you don't go back.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:18 | 2734610 q99x2
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From my observation what I hear people talk about when discussing voting for Obama is that they need to have their prescriptions covered. Now that many if not most are on some kind of prescribed drug and that most think they will likely continue to have that paid for if Obummer gets re-elected they are going to vote for Obama.

No one needs an economy as long as they have their drugs.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:23 | 2734633 JLee2027
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Who cares? it doesn't matter if either ass clown wins, the ship sinks. Only Ron Paul matters. 

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:32 | 2734674 Carl LaFong
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I like Obama more because (choose one or more):

1.  He's arrogant

2.  He has never worked a day in his life

3.  He lives off the government (i.e. taxpayer)

4.  He is mean-spirited

5.  He is never wrong

6.  He loves to foment racism

 7.  He gives me money 

8.  All of the above and more

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:37 | 2734704 MrBoompi
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52% of Americans don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to monetary policy or macroeconomics.  So it's no surprise they fall for same "tax cuts for billionaires" GOP economic policy.  Us rich folks are pretty lucky we live in such a fat, lazy, and dumb country.



Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:57 | 2734814 Count de Money
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If you fall for Democratic talking points, then you can count yourself in that 52%.

Fat, lazy, dumb? Speak for yourself.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 14:47 | 2734764 Overfed
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I don't like either fuckin' one of them. Nor do I think either one is good for the economy.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 15:08 | 2734866 Totentänzerlied
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The thing they most certainly will not be voting "with" is their empty brainwashed propagandized minds, because if they did ... they wouldn't be voting.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 15:18 | 2734914 monad
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<====== Obamney

<====== Neither


Fri, 08/24/2012 - 16:55 | 2735369 boiltherich
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COMMERCE, Michigan, Aug. 24, 2012 (Reuters) — U.S. Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney took a dig at President Barack Obama on Friday over his birth certificate in comments that re-ignited the controversy over the Democrat's eligibility to be president.



Not even McCain stooped that low, he disavowed the birthers.  This really stinks of desperation, not good in a candidate, the stink of desperation on a politician is worse than the stink of desperation on a guy hitting on chicks way out of his league.

Fri, 08/24/2012 - 18:13 | 2735589 JohnKozac
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19 hurt in 7 overnight shootings in Chicago


Glad to see Rahm has things under control there.

Sat, 08/25/2012 - 09:00 | 2736510 TWSceptic
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Likable? Is that what it comes down to now? What the Facebook generation 'likes'? No hope....

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