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Morgan Stanley Quantifies The Probability Of A Global "Muddle Through": 37%

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When it comes to attempts at predicting the future, it often appears that the most desirable outcome by everyone involved (particularly those from the status quo, which means financial institutions and media) is that of the "muddle through" which is some mythical condition in which nothing really happens, the global economy neither grows, nor implodes, and it broadly one of little excitement and volatility. While we fail to see how one can call the unprecedented market vol of the past 6 months anything even remotely resembling a muddle through, the recent quiet in the stock market, punctuated by a relentless low volume melt up has once again set market participants' minds at ease that in the absence of 30> VIX days, things may be back to "Goldilocks" days and the muddle through is once again within reach. So while the default fallback was assumed by most to be virtually assured, nobody had actually tried to map out the various outcome possibilities for the global economy. Until today, when Morgan Stanley's most recent addition, former Fed member Vince Reinhart, better known for proposing the Fed's selling of Treasury Puts to the market as a means of keeping rates at bay, together with Adam Parker, have put together a 3x3 matrix charting out the intersections between the US and European economic outcomes. Here is how Parker and Reinhart see the possibility of a global goldilocks outcome, and specifically those who position themselves with expectations of this being the default outcome: "A “muddle through” positioning is potentially dangerous: Our main message is that the muddle-through scenario might be the most plausible alternative, but its joint occurrence in the US and Europe is less likely than the result of a coin toss. Uncertainty is bad for multiples." Specifically - it is 37% (with roughly 3 significant digits of precision). That said, as was reported here early in the year, Morgan Stanley is one of the very few banks which expects an actual market decline in 2012, so bear that in mind as you read the following matrix-based analysis. Because at the end of the day everyone has an agenda.

First a summary of why Morgan Stanley is no longer its usual, cheery self:

Two core theses: Our main US economic thesis is that an economy performs poorly after a severe financial crisis. After the most recent fall, wealth creation in  the US this cycle is lagging behind that seen in other financial crises. Our main US equity strategy thesis is “multiple contraction”, as low and volatile growth and the extreme interest rate environment will likely weigh on the price-to-earnings ratio for several years.

 

Uncertainty abounds: While it’s possible our core principles will apply for the next several years, policy decisions will immediately shape the shorter-term perceptions of the economy and equity market. The uncertainty has manifested itself in 33 daily moves in the S&P500 greater than 2% since August 1st, 2011  (Exhibit 2), versus only two such daily moves in the first 8 months of 2011. The challenge is that the unanswered policy questions are too numerous to address  ead-on in a coherent manner. To show one way to think about risk, we take two issues—political decisions in the United States and Europe over the  medium term—and flesh out the range of possibilities based on just these two moving parts.

While nothing new to regular readers, the global risks that Morgan Stanley sees are rather intuitive:

The most striking aspect of financial markets over the past few months has been the lack of conviction among participants. Nobody can be sure about the outlook. An investor might have been right about the economic data and savvy about near-term sentiment and still been run over by headlines from Brussels orFrankfurt or Washington. It has been helpful to our own thinking about financial markets to draw a map of risks associated with one-off political events. Unfortunately, the list of unanswered questions is long.

 

When will US politicians come to grips with adverse fiscal trends?

 

How will European officials cope with their ongoing banking and sovereign crises?

 

What will be the pace of European bank deleveraging?

 

Will Chinese authorities successfully navigate through the global economic storm?

 

We think these questions are too numerous to address head-on in a coherent manner. In order to show one way to think about risk, we take the first two issues—political decisions in the United States and Europe over the medium term—and flesh out the range of possibilities based on just these two moving parts. Our base case economic forecast slices through the middle of those possibilities and posits a great muddle, where important decisions may be delayed. In this scenario, 2012 may be a year to be cautiously pessimistic. Of course, we could be wrong, as there is a wide range of possible outcomes in 2012 and a high degree of uncertainty around timing. On the one hand, leaders could act decisively; on the other, they could fumble enough to make future decision-making increasingly difficult.

 

First, we take a stab at filling out a three-by-three contingency table of bull-bear-base cases for Europe and the US, assigning our judgment of probabilities associated with each scenario in the medium term.

 

Second, we sketch out the likely consequences for the US and European economies in each of these outcomes over the medium-term in 2012.

 

Third, we assess the implications for US equity markets by making judgment calls on S&P500 earnings and likely trading ranges.

For those wondering why politics is increasingly the dominant theme when analyzing financial outcomes, Morgan Stanley explains by presenting the various cases for the US and Europe, most of which are reliant on political choicses as input variables.

First, for America:

For the United States, if there is no coherent fiscal plan in the spring of 2013 in either the second term of a re-elected Obama administration or the first term of a new president, then fiscal policy will likely drift for four more years. In such circumstances, we think there is considerable risk that US debt will be downgraded again. In fact, in recent days increasing chatter about US government debt has surfaced, though not enough to spook markets as it did last summer.

 

Nonetheless, market price action might well propagate failure or success in dealing with that challenge in 2012. This raises the three distinct possibilities listed below, with our subjective assessment of the probabilities given in parentheses.

 

US Base Case: The muddle in the middle (50%). Our base case is an unsatisfying muddle-through in both the US and Europe over the coming months. Politicians will avert a near-term train wreck but not put the train on track toward a long-run destination. Because the US dollar, at least for now, serves as the reserve currency, financial markets may shrug off this fiscal failure episodically, than cyclically react harshly to perceptions of derailment. Our market  interpretation is that there will be a lot of volatility again in 2012. Since August 1st, 2011, the S&P500 has had 33 single-day moves of more than a 2%, born of “macro uncertainty”. We think this trend likely persists (Exhibit 2) given the host of macro questions.

 

US Bear Case: Off the rails (35%). The election contest may sink to a sufficiently low level of discourse that markets conclude that no serious work on fiscal policy will be undertaken until at least 2013. In that case, market participants will become increasingly restive in the summer and fall, creating an environment of risk aversion that is not conducive to sustained economic expansion.

 

US Bull Case: Off the charts (15%). Fiscal policy in the United States is delivered inefficiently and at great cost. The election contest presents two coherent,  opposing remedies that offer clarity and efficiency. The American people decide in November, and newly elected officials have a mandate to implement the preferred program in spring 2013. This would be supportive of economic growth and financial markets in 2012 as the public comes to understand that such an  outcome is in train and as corporations, inspired by clarity, deploy their huge excess cash reserves in a productive direction, fueling jobs and exports.

Next, Europe:

As for Europe, seventeen nations have bound themselves in a seemingly unworkable currency union. Authorities can make up for labor immobility and price rigidity only by making it a closer fiscal union. That requires strict budget rules, pan-European issuance of government securities, and an accommodative central bank.

 

Europe Base Case: The muddle in the middle (60%). We do not think that authorities get to where they need to go in 2012, but our base case is that they are mostly successful in signaling in 2012 that they are on the right path in a series of unsatisfactory summit meetings. This muddle-through scenario implies a roller-coaster ride for sentiment in 2012 as European officials alternatively build and dash hopes for a definitive resolution of the banking and sovereign crises.  The seven elections scheduled this year will only add to the unease.

 

Europe Bear Case: Off the rails (25%). Part of the reason that sovereign crises are so volatile is that regime change is always possible. In the current case, voters in the wealthy European countries might get impatient with the transfer of resources to poorer countries, leading to a break-up of the currency union and debt default by a few troubled sovereigns. Voters in the poorer countries might get impatient with the conditionality required to receive those transfers, leading to debt default and a break-up of the currency union. While this may not happen in 2012, fears of a break-up are likely to grow and roil markets. In that regard, the perceived success of debt auctions will importantly influence sentiment.

 

Europe Bull Case: Off the charts (15%). Elected officials may be pushed by financial markets or their own voters to be quicker and more specific in disclosing  their plans for fiscal union. Presenting a comprehensive and workable package that includes a commitment from the ECB to support markets would lift confidence worldwide.

These 6 standalone scenarios are not all encompasing:

No doubt, other scenarios come to mind, and there is a large element of arbitrariness in assigning probabilities to each outcome. These probabilities can also change from day to day. The right and lower tabs in the table below give our assessment of the unconditional probabilities of these major outcomes in the United States (right tabs) and Europe (the bottom tabs). It is even more speculative to assign probabilities for their joint occurrence. The inner elements of the table give joint probabilities, where the design principle is to give equal probabilities across cases unless there is a compelling counter-argument.

Still, the warning remains, and is repeated:

The main message from our analysis (Exhibit 3) is that the muddle-through scenario might be the most plausible alternative, but its joint occurrence in the US and Europe is less likely than the result of a coin toss. We think such uncertainty will continue to beget lower multiples.

So how does all this look in chart form?

First, by outcome probability:

"We Assign a 50% Chance of a Muddle-Through Scenario in the US and a 60% Chance in Europe – but the Intersection Is Likely Less than 50-50"

We wholly acknowledge that bad news in one economy will have a negative impact on the other, so these cells are inter-dependent by definition. Further, corporate profitability is sharply impacted by big moves in the relationship between the dollar and euro, so the bear scenarios for Europe could incrementally hurt US profitability, something we will be eyeing in the near term given the dollar’s strength

Then, by scenario summary:

"Our Economic Assumptions for the US and Europe Under Nine Scenarios"

 

While it is always difficult to tell what is priced in at any moment, we forecast the S&P500 under each of the 9 scenarios in Exhibit 5. In our 2012 Outlook piece from Jan 2, 2012, “The 2012 Playbook”, we set our (US) Bear, Base and Bull case targets of $944, $1237 and $1450, respectively. The probability-weighted price targets for each row of Exhibit 5 (corresponding to a scenario for the US) match these unconditional price targets. Within each row, however, better or worse conditions in Europe result in conditional price targets that are above or below, respectively, their unconditional values. Thus, the Bear US/Bear Europe target in Exhibit 5 of $798 (upper left cell) is below our unconditional US Bear case target of $944, while the Bear US/Bull Europe target of $1175 (upper right cell) is above our unconditional US Bear case target.

 

We note that the market is only 11% below our Bull US/Base Europe price target of $1425 (bottom middle cell of Exhibit 5), as investors currently are embedding a muddle through scenario for the US economy, improving US profits, modest multiple expansion, and a “quarantined” Europe for the foreseeable future. As far as the S&P500 goes, we see the risk-reward as skewed to the negative and have a year-end 2012 price target of $1167.

Finally, this is MS' best guess of where the S&P would go in any given scenario:

We Assign Price Targets for the S&P500 Under Each of the 9 Scenarios – The Market Is Only 11% Below Our Bull US/Base Europe Scenario Price Target of 1425

Ominously, following early revisions of Q4 GDP growth by other banks, Morgan Stanley has joined the bandwagon and is already putting the possibility of a sub-muddle through outcome in the US as increasingly probably if there is follow through into Q1:

Lastly, to add to the uncertainty, the US economy is once again tracking below where it started at the beginning of the fourth quarter, as weaker than expected exports have lowered our Q4 estimate for the US GDP to 2.7% (Exhibit 6). Similar negative tracking has occurred every quarter in 2011.

Yet after all this, perhaps we should have started with Morgan Stanley's conclusion: that no matter what, it is most likely the market itself that will define what GDP is at the end of the day, confirming what everyone, even the Fed knows: that in our bizarro world, it is the market that defines the economy, not the other way around. Because with the economy a whole maze of smoke and mirrors to begin with, and purely reliant on nothing but perception, what is one more lie to add upon all the other lies.

We point out that even if we knew which economic scenario would unfold, GDP has often been PREDICTED by the S&P500, such that the coincident correlation between the quarterly GDP and the S&P500 has averaged zero over the past several decades (Exhibit 7).

 


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Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:41 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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Chance of a global fuckup: 63%.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:42 | Link to Comment trav7777
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100%

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:50 | Link to Comment Jeremy Roenick
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That's better than we usually do.   STICK TO THE PLAN!!!!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:01 | Link to Comment LookingWithAmazement
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"Muddle Through": exactly my prediction for 2012. So far, so good.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:44 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Heh....Just like John "Muddle Through" Mauldin

 

Note how Mauldin is a Grey-Poupon toting, name dropping, "expert" who hob-nobs with the PigMen and the wealthy elite and enjoys a fabulous lifestyle.

Why is that?

Because unlike all the other "Experts" who constantly tout "Gloom and Doom" and shout "Any Minute Now, The System is Going to Implode!".....

Mauldin was the only one smart enough to stay neutral with his "Muddle Through" views on the economy.

Does David Rosenberg ride in a Bentley or Rolls Royce?

Nope.

Does Karl Denninger live in a penthouse overlooking Central Park?

Nope.

Does Art Cashin get invited to Davos?

Nope.

I don't know any Perma-Bears who are rich or enjoy life.

Except for Paulson, who lost it all in 2011.

Lots of guys should learn a lesson from Mauldin.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:56 | Link to Comment The4thStooge
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Hey RoboTard, what does Reggie Middleton drive?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:00 | Link to Comment luna_man
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"I don't know any perma-bears who are rich or enjoy life."...Perhaps, like me, some of those "perma-bears", understand, patience is a virtue! Ahy 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:05 | Link to Comment gjp
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what lesson is that?  It pays to sell your soul?  Personally, the decadence sickens me, and I'm not envious of the lifestyle at all.

I'll stick with the bear case, which has reason behind it, and remember to ignore the shills.

Muddle through has a 0% chance.  It's about 50/50 between crack-up boom and credit collapse.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I can tell you I'm not rich but I do enjoy life. Every day is a new chance to be amazed. Right now I am amazed that each post you make can be dumber than the last. Thanks Robo for the no cost entertainment.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:24 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
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+55k.

 

Lay up your treasure in heaven where it cannot be debased by printing or stolen by banksters.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:08 | Link to Comment LynRobison
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"I don't know any Perma-Bears who are rich or enjoy life". You don't do much reading or listening, do you?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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The problem with the PH overlooking the park is that eventually you have to step out into Bloombergistan. Davos gets friggin' cold, dude, and real men schmere their ham hoagies with Guldens.

Really, how long can this bullshit hold together? The doomers have time on their side. Besides, you can have a lot of fun living in a hollowed-out volcano and driving (being driven?) in a Humvee crowned with a 50 caliber. 

I'll judge my advisors by their arguments, not their accoutrements.

 

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Bartanist
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"I'll judge my advisors by their arguments, not their accoutrements."

I don't care if people have arguments at all but whether they have a good soul and whether they are awake and aware. Those that think Utopia is a contrived status above others can't generally fit through the eye of a needle.

Who has the time required to fill their insatiably needy ego? And yet, we are taught that we should love them as well.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:13 | Link to Comment dumpster
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does robot trader

live in a trailer park yes

live on food stamps yes

pays less than 100 bucks rent to stay with mom  yes

has left over twinkies as a snack from three day old bread store   yes

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:17 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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Loose pussy, tight shoes, warm place to pooh.  He's got it made.  The twinkies are a nice touch.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:25 | Link to Comment knukles
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Say, you're tryin' to pull one over on me now, ain'tcha?
Twinkies is fruits, right?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:29 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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Yep.  He likes 'em with KY.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 09:57 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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Twinkies is fruits, right?

 

Twinkies in BK!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:29 | Link to Comment Questan1913
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Thanks for the revealing comment.  Bentleys, Rolls Royce, penthouses in New York and, of course, invitations to Davos are the measure of a successful life?  So you are a member of the sociopathic cult that has destroyed the West and left it in ethical, moral and economic ruin?  Or maybe  you are just a self designated cheerleader typing away in some public library basement hoping to emulate your heroes great achievemants someday? 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Eireann go Brach
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RoboTard rides a fucking bicycle to work because he couldn't reach the steering wheel of the Ford Pinto he test drove at the dealership!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:43 | Link to Comment Desert Irish
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Part of the reason that sovereign crises are so volatile is that regime change is always possible.

No kidding sherlock. Le Pen takes out Sarkorzy in the first round what do you think is going to happen to the rest of Europe. The pendelum is swinging to the right and the rise of nationalism will be the occouring theme. You can almost understand why they are willing to throw $10 trillion away to ensure it doesn't happen.

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:43 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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man , i cant tell the difference in brilliance and bullshit....

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:43 | Link to Comment lineskis
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It will sure look quiet until it dosen't...

But I'll let MillionDollarBonus troll on how our leaders will quietly save us all! :) MDB the floor is yours!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:44 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I had a 37% chance of getting laid in High School. That was after a lot of analysis. Ironically I also muddled through.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:56 | Link to Comment twotraps
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Fonzannon...I was searching for some perspective on the whole '37% thing' and you have nailed it, thank you.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Desert Irish
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you deserve an uptick for that...........

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 09:40 | Link to Comment ucsbcanuck
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So are you a bull or a bear now?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:49 | Link to Comment icm63
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Too big to fail : Policy confirmed

USA - YES... nothing will fail
CHINA - YES ...nothing will fail (as you wont here about it, the truth will never get out)
EUROPE - ?? ... Germany new finance minster not a great fan of going back to the 1938 hyperinfaltion.

However every large bank in Europe is trying to bully Germany to support the ECB 'too bug to fail'..

i agree with Felix Zulauf, Germany wont back the 'too big to fail' policy and something will fail. Thus all will be custard soon !

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:57 | Link to Comment GeorgeHayduke
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Muddling through on things that help people (like a decent economy) has become standard operating procedure for global governments for decades now.

If, on the other hand, you want destruction, devastation and mass killing, and deceiving their own citizens, NOW you're talking about something modern corporate-governments never muddle through.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 21:58 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Discrete probability grids are only useful in determining where in the strike zone not to throw a pitch to certain hitters.  But they come off as simpleton in the world of the continuously propagating complex of world economies.  The only thing less insightful than a 3x3 grid is one of those 2x2 gregor mendel genetic grids that determine whether one should have blue eyes and attached earlobes.

I guess if this is what gets folks to pay MS for advice and "stewardship" of their precious fiat, so be it.  I'm unimpressed by something that anyone able to read can scribble out on the sidewalk with chalk.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:23 | Link to Comment Stax Edwards
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LOL

If I was Gorman I would cut their damn bonuses also.  These guys are going to have to try harder, they need to take a lesson from Hank.  "If you don't give us a Trillon immediately there will be tanks in the street by noon"  Hank was much more dramatic and frankly a better extortionist for the bankers than the current crop of MS pigmen can ever hope to be.

In all seriousness though, this was much better than last weeks installment which boiled down to "the neckline"

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:26 | Link to Comment Stax Edwards
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I think the 9x9 is what Tom Smykowski had in mind when he invented the "Jump to Conclusions Mat"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxuTyXQHqkI

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:05 | Link to Comment bankonzhongguo
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Are any of these public pronouncements from the banks that CREATED THESE CRISES of any real value to anyone at this point?

The idea that its disinformation: 50%.

The idea that they are "correct": 50%.

The idea that is it actionable: 50%

The idea that your bank or broker will actually not rip you off a la MF Gobal: 50%.

The idea that the time value of your money can be redeployed to actually do something useful - like buy food: 50%

Now flip a series of coins and see if you can repeat these same odds to "win" at this form of passive investing - toss "heads" 5 times in a row.

Its called "heads" they win, "tails" you lose.

At least in Vegas you can know the odds of baccarat going in, or count some cards in Black Jack for a while, even play $5 in nickle slots for a watered down rum and coke.

In a wild west shootout, your odds of survival are at least 50%.

 

 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:14 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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The nice thing is, those fuckers can only kill me once. Or, I'll do it myself, the last round of ammo I have will be for me.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Calmyourself
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Politics (from Greek ?????????, "of, for, or relating to citizens") is a process by which groups of people make collective decisions... It consists of "social relations involving authority or power"[1] and refers to the regulation of public affairs within a political unit,[2] and to the methods and tactics used to formulate and apply policy.[3]

I posit that in the end none of the rules, regulators or economics matter one little bit. 

What the politicians can get away with is the true arbiter of our fate, lay aside your keynes and hayek and learn the art of politics.  The tipping point we are all concerned with is not the definition of default or how the lawyers set up the contracts on CDS payouts but which politician will sick his bulldogs with machine guns on you if you try.  It truly is that simple..

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:09 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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The elites idea of muddling thru include NDAA, rights to shoot their own citizens(lol that made it sound like they own us), fema camps and the likes of SOPA etc.  They'll come out smelling like roses and still own 100,000lbs of gold each, the majority of us will be dead.  Like they said, they'll get thru it just fine.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:41 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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Fuck if you're not right about that. At least we can hope that they get into some squabbles and kill each other in large numbers.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:14 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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Maybe "muddle along " is 37%, but Obama spending 1$trillion to get the economy going (read get re-elected) = 100%.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:17 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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No analysis ... just a guessing game.

The bank left out the 'all-out thermonuclear war' option off the table.

Why? Why? Why?

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:28 | Link to Comment Misean
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If I remember War Games correctly, tic tac toe is also a 3x3 matrix....interesting....

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:56 | Link to Comment Westcoastliberal
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And it solves SO MANY problems for them!  Coming to you sometime between Mar 2 and Mar 9.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Misean
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"Specifically - it is 37% (with roughly 3 significant digits of precision)."

Seriously?!? I use chicken bones and entrails and get 4 significant digits of precision. My last reading had poop deep in the gizards...deep poop...

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:49 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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That is actually their underlining method also. A row and column have been removed that include all the really bad stuff like global thermo nuclear war, the creation of strange matter at a supercollider, lab virus with killer RNAi encoding junk, complete monetary collapse, underwear gnomes, re-election of Obama, and election of Romney. Really awful stuff.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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It has become difficult to separate new votes over the 2012 propaganda operation. Have a look at the Banking Cartel shitting bricks.

Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic.

We're over 15 trillion and Obama needs another 1.5 Trillion.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/ 

A Republican once stated.. 'Blessed are the young for they shall inherit the national debt.'

 -Herbert Hoover, former U.S. President 

Do you understand how the Bank of International Settlements is playing you? If not, you will in time.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:41 | Link to Comment GernB
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The analysist faith in economic policy to solve the problem is inspiring... or frightening. I can't figure out which. If the economy starts to seriously contract (and I doubt printing money can stop it from doing so) then the best scenario is a managed hard landing. Because when you fall of a pile of money as high as 15.2 trillion theres no such thing as a soft landing.

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 22:43 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Mises told me there would be no math.

3 significant digits,
Bizzaro World, FTMFW!

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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There can be no "muddle-through" under Biflationary economics. Buying power and net worth get progressively eroded. The erosion rate is dependant on the extent to which global central banks pursue current policies. 

In other words, the economy continues to contract and downsize with brief bounces in between. The exact upside-down opposite of what once was normal in the post war economy with brief recessions and prolonged expansions in between. 

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:35 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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Sure there can.

"Muddle-through" is when you're walking throught snow asshole-deep to a helluva tall Indian to get to the neighbor's to trade something you've got that they need for something you need that they've got, and you're walking because there's no fuel for any price and the whole financial system has imploded.

 

Or something like that.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 00:02 | Link to Comment twotraps
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Caviar, totally agree.  Your money, its value today and so your net worth gets abused to keep the game going.  Its a massive PR problem here and in Europe.....they must maintain the illusion that it can be handled or this whole charade is a Silly Game with no real rules or out of bounds.   They, the govt and Fed have proven their ability to move their asses when it counts....especially when the entire game is called into question.

 

Honestly, this was the guy that suggested the Fed sell puts??

Tue, 01/17/2012 - 23:07 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Before the chip/iris scanner laws are implemented.. You will be conditioned to use (NFC) Near field communication. Once the public is baited on this new (safe) security measure, flaws will begin to surface. Next, you'll be told to too upgrade your software to ensure your banking safety is not compromised. This is how the cashless society will be formed. As each generation of safety is granted, MSM will roll out breaches of security.

Tomorrow, many Internet sites will go down. This is how the game is played out.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 00:05 | Link to Comment twotraps
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Fits nicely with their track record of using a 'crisis' to expand their reach.   We have a Prosecution Crisis, not a liquidity crisis, rates are freakin zero, supposedly plenty of cash available....but no one is in jail for anything.  Hmmm.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 08:16 | Link to Comment I should be working
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So only one scenario where the market ends 2012 significantly higher. Pretty soon it's time to sell this January rally, buy some long bonds and go to sleep for another year. I'm gonna laugh when 2012 plays out the same as 2010 and 11. Strong start, big sell off then recovery, except every year the sell offs get worse.

This times different, right?

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 09:37 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Really important question:  Was "muddle" a word before Dr. Seuss's Fox in Socks:

When beetles fight these battles in a bottle with their paddles
and the bottle's on a poodle and the poodle's eating noodles...
...they call this a muddle puddle tweetle poodle beetle noodle
bottle paddle battle.

Wed, 01/18/2012 - 09:55 | Link to Comment Bartanist
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It is ironic that in "fighting" the "service to selfers" ZH can actually aid their cause. The service to self-tards do not want competition. They want slaves.

They manifest their influence amongst the independent and "service to other" people of the world by creating an environment of despair and hopelessness. The dark side is aided when people give up hope and fall into despair.

The way to beat the self-tards is to have a vision of what is on the other side of their dominance, have hope and belief in it coming and then work to make it happen. (something of a paraphrase of Saul Alinsky ... who seemingly both helped and sacrificed others because his gig was enjoying the power from tearing down "other" powerful self-tards)

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