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Muslim Brotherhood-Backed Candidate Wins Egyptian Presidential Election
In a move not too surprising to those who have followed the Egyptian presidential election, the candidate who is now president of the country one year after its "liberation" is the Muslim Brotherhood-backed Mohammed Mursi (for an extended interview with Mursi delineating his views read this ), who has won with over 13 million, or 51.73% of the votes. This means that at least superficially the Egyptian military is being pulled back from power, and instead the Islamist forces will be in control. How this ultimately impacts the region, and especially Egyptian neighbor Israel, remains to be seen, although a major Islamist power ascending in control of a formerly secular nation will hardly be very beneficial to Israel, especially in the long-run even if the just elected president has pro-western beliefs.
Live Feed from Tahrir square after the jump:
At least initially, Tel Aviv is quite happy with the result:
From Reuters:
In a reversal of fortunes unthinkable a year and a half ago, an Islamist jailed by Hosni Mubarak has succeeded him as president of the biggest Arab nation in a victory at the ballot box which has historic consequences for Egypt and the Middle East.
The Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsy will not enjoy the extent of modern, pharaonic powers exercised by Mubarak: those have been curtailed by a military establishment which will decide just how much he will be able to do in government.
Still, the U.S.-trained engineer's victory in the country's first free presidential election breaks a tradition of domination by men from the armed forces, which have provided every Egyptian leader since the overthrow of the monarchy 60 years ago, and installs in office a group that drew on 84 years of grassroots activism to catapult Morsy into the presidency.
He has promised a moderate, modern Islamist agenda to steer Egypt into a new democratic era where autocracy will be replaced by transparent government that respects human rights and revives the fortunes of a powerful Arab state long in decline. Morsy is promising an "Egyptian renaissance with an Islamic foundation".
Yet the stocky, bespectacled 60-year old, appears something of an accidental president: he was only flung into the race at the last moment by the disqualification on a technicality of Khairat al-Shater, by far the group's preferred choice.
With a stiff and formal style, Morsy, who has a doctorate from the University of Southern California, cast himself as a reluctant late comer to the race, who cited religious fear of judgement day as one of his reasons for running. He struggled to shake off his label as the Brotherhood's "spare tyre".
Questions remain over the extent to which Morsy will operate independently of other Brotherhood leaders once in office: his manifesto was drawn up by the group's policymakers. The role Shater might play has been one focus of debate in Egypt.
"I will treat everyone equally and be a servant of the Egyptian people," Morsy said at his campaign headquarters in Cairo shortly after polling ended, a week before his victory was confirmed by the Mubarak-era body overseeing the vote.
But many Egyptians, not least the Christian minority, remain suspicious of Morsy and even more so of the group he represents. Anti-Brotherhood sentiment, fuelled by both a hostile media and some of the group's policies, has soared in recent weeks.
SWITCH
As he readied himself for the run-off against Shafik, Morsy switched to a more inclusive message and portrayed himself as defender of the "Jan. 25 revolution" that toppled Mubarak - an uprising initially led not by the wary Brotherhood but by mainly secular, liberal groups among Egypt's urban youth.
The Brotherhood has long been at the heart of the movement for democratic reform in Egypt, but he was a hard sell to many of those youth activists, who said his group was slow to join the anti-Mubarak uprising and who subsequently accused the Brotherhood of cosying up to the generals who then took over.
Morsy won few open endorsements from politicians and parties beyond the various Islamist factions, though the "April 6 movement" - one of the protest groups that ignited the anti-Mubarak revolt - was a notable exception.
"We face a decisive moment in our history, we must halt the farce of the former regime," Morsy said in one of his last television interviews before the run-off. "We face a new era and we cannot allow the return of the former regime."
Morsy worked to address some of the criticisms faced by his group. In the last week of his campaign, he put in writing his promises of an inclusive administration, to protect media freedoms and those of minorities, including Christians whose fear of the Islamists drove many of them to vote for Shafik.
He also sought to reassure the generals about his group's intentions. In a June 14 interview, he said the Brotherhood would seek agreement with the military over the next defence minister. The army, he said, would also remain "protector of the interior" for up to two years while the Interior Ministry - a largely unreformed vestige of Mubarak's rule - was restructured.
In any case, the army enacted a court order that same day to dissolve the Brotherhood-led parliament and, as polling ended, issued a decree taking legislative power for itself, among measures that will sharply constrain the presidency.
Morsy travelled across the country, promoting the Brotherhood's "renaissance project" - an 80-page manifesto based on what it terms its "centrist understanding" of Islam.
The son of a peasant farmer, Morsy has spoken of a simple childhood in a village in the Nile Delta province of Sharqia, recalling how his mother taught him prayer and the Koran. He obtained his doctorate from the University of Southern California in 1982 after earlier studying at Cairo University.
Following his studies in the United States, he returned to Egypt in 1985. Two of his five children hold U.S. citizenship.
Head of the Freedom and Justice Party, which the Brotherhood established last year to promote its aims in the new party political system, Morsy has been described as an apparatchik.
His daughter is married to the son of another Brotherhood leader and he has described his wife, who wears a long, cape-like headscarf, as a Brotherhood activist.
The Brotherhood's "renaissance" programme sketches out the group's vision on everything from fighting inflation to remaking ties with the United States as a partnership of equals. It envisions deeper ties with Turkey - a Muslim state which Brotherhood leaders often cite as a model of success.
On Israel, Morsy's views reflect those of the Brotherhood. He has called for a review of Cairo's 1979 peace treaty with its Jewish neighbour, saying Egypt's neighbour has not respected the accord. But the group has said it will not renege on the deal.
Morsy has cited fear of judgment day as one reason for seeking the top office. He said: "We are worried that God will ask us, on the day of reckoning: 'What did you do when you saw that the nation was in need of sacrifice and effort?'"
Previously from CNN:
After a historic revolution that toppled a 30-year regime, Egyptians eagerly waited Sunday to learn who would be the country's first democratically elected president.
Officials braced for violence and the Muslim Brotherhood said it would stage a long-term protest if a former prime minister is declared the winner.
Egypt is set to announce the winner at 3 p.m. (9 a.m. ET) Sunday, according to the Supreme Presidential Elections Commission.
Both candidates have already claimed victory. And hours before the announcement Sunday, both campaigns reiterated the claim.
Former Prime Minister Ahmed Shafik made the declaration on his Facebook page: "President Ahmed Shafik, Egypt 2012."
Mohamed Morsi of the Freedom and Justice Party, the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, also declared on Facebook that "at 3:00 p.m., Morsi will be Egypt's president."
The claims come amid heightened concerns that Shafik, who served under ousted leader Hosni Mubarak, would give new life to the old guard and essentially nullify democratic gains since last year's Egyptian revolution.
"Did we really have a revolution if Shafik wins?" prominent novelist Alaa al-Aswany said via Twitter. "For the thousandth time this is not a battle between the military and the (Muslim) Brotherhood, it is a battle of the Egyptian people with the military regime that ruled us with an iron fist for 60 years."
Like Mubarak, Shafik is a former air force officer with close ties to Egypt's powerful military and is "the quintessential candidate of the counter-revolution," said Khaled Elgindy, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
Morsi, an American-educated engineer, "represents the older, more conservative wing of the Brotherhood and openly endorses a strict Islamic vision," said Isobel Coleman of the Council on Foreign Relations.
But in an interview with CNN, Morsi said, "There is no such thing called an Islamic democracy. There is democracy only. ... The people are the source of authority."
Each campaign has accused the other of election fraud.
"In the event of Shafik's win, we expect some trouble on the street and in Tahrir (Square), which will be met with an iron hand according to the instructions we have received," said Lt. Col. Usama Emam, a national security officer.
"We are on high alert and so far there has not been any evidence of an imminent threat or plan of sabotage from any Islamist extremist groups," Emam said. He added that Egyptian authorities have arrested "elements" of the Palestinian group Hamas over the past week since Egypt's military rulers isued "de facto martial law and we are still tracking some of their fugitive members who had entered mainly through Sinai and made their way to Cairo."
More than 1,800 ambulances have been dispatched across the country as a proactive measure, the state-run EgyNews agency reported. It also said the country's interior ministry stressed the need to respect peaceful demonstrations.
But the ministry also said it would not tolerate any turmoil against authorities after Sunday's pivotal announcement.
"Minister Mohamed Ibrahim has given police forces orders to shoot to kill against anyone attempting to attack police stations after the results," interior ministry spokesman Gen. Marwan Mustapha said, reiterating government policy in such circumstances. "Increased security has been dispersed in the side streets of (Cairo's) Tahrir Square to protect government buildings."
If Shafik wins the election, the Muslim Brotherhood will stage "a long-term, open-end sit-in at Tahrir Square," complete with bathroom facilities made of bricks, daily food supply and tight security at the entrances of the square, said Jihad Haddad, a political adviser to the Muslim Brotherhood. Haddad cited the Brotherhood's disapproval of the ruling military body's new constitutional decree and de facto martial law.
Egypt's all-powerful military leaders have said they won't reverse their widely deplored constitutional and judicial changes and also cautioned against election-related unrest.
"We will face anyone who will pose a challenge to the public and private sectors with an iron fist," the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) said.
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Footless sloth.
C-C-C-C-Comboooo breaker!
Meh, the guy is probably Mossad himself.
Based on what the Israeli TASE did at 20 minutes until the close, that' s not a reach. Chart in this thread:
http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2012/06/24/breaking-news-06-24-12-egypt...
It wouldn't be the first time it happened.
Also, didn't see that TASE action. Wow.
no different than the US... were both politically parties are owned by the corporatist/zionist system. heads they win, tails you lose. isn't democrazy great?
Haven't you heard? On ZH, everyone is really Mossad. LOL This move ought to REALLY help their main industry - tourism. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot and THEN the head...
What ever happened to that tent protest? Did that just fizzle out? What were they protesting anyway?
"...although a major Islamist power ascending in control of a formerly secular nation will hardly be seen as beneficial by western democracies."
There, fixed that for you...
Democracies, that's what you call ``voting`` for one or the other banksters? Sorry but aside from Iceland all the ``western democracies`` are in fact the banksters fiefdoms.
Mission Accomplished. Hope and Change Blah Blah Blah.
As is the case with Greece and Syria, the sun will rise in the east in the morning.
Arab Spring!!!
Jeffersonian Democracy with just a touch of Theocratic Totalitarianism!!!
And a little hypocrisy on the side.
Caliphate Summer.
I said watch out for the brotherhood when the 'arab spring' was going on and I was shouted down as a fearful bigot.
Surprise, surprise, surprise ..
Now most of NE Africa is Muslim, so 'caliphate summer' is probably a real issue.
I guess it's time to start targeting terrorists in the region (read wedding parties and funerals)
I'm sure those saber-ratllers nearest Egypt will have much larger targets in mind.
And all those lefties who said "Don't! It won't stay in Iraq!" got shouted down as treasonous idiots 9 years ago.
Mmmmm....blowback.
The Bubba Effect.
Bubba Savants.
Biblical prophecy requires Iran, Russia and Egypt to be allies against Israel.
Is is astonishing how much biblical prophecy seems to be falling into place over the past few years.
Not really. Isramerica sacrificed Mubarak in order to keep the Junta in power...Pentagon controls the Junta, and Zion controls the Pentagon. After all the huffing and puffing about an "Arab Spring", precisely nothing has changed - yet - in Egypt. When and if the Bro overthrows the Junta, then there'll be change. Despite all the hand-wringing from the neo-conz, ZOGbama handled this all quite well.
Blowback Bitches.................from decades of US supported Mubarak and his merry band of henchmen.
Yup. ETA to Egyptian No-Fly Zone/bombing campaign: 6 months.
Blowback against an elite minority/oligarchy stealing nearly all the wealth, same as in Tunisia & Libya. Now whether this time it is different time itself will tell.
The people want to have a proper rule of law and not corruption with arbitrary appropriation of their capital. Remember the Tunisian guy who started this off had all his capital taken (boxes of fruit and weighing scales) so he had no economic prospects (the aim of most young Tunisians was to go to europe where they could work and prosper). It is this process (rule of law, ownership of capital, reasonable taxes) that enabled Britain and then the US to save and invest and prosper better than the rest of the world. Today the breakdown of this including between generations and those not yet born (future debts and liabilities) that is causing our decline.
Blowback against an elite minority/oligarchy stealing nearly all the wealth, same as in Tunisia & Libya.
Gadafi only stole half their wealth. That's why Hitlary's puppetmasters snuffed him.
so now the other half's been stolen too.
Send Chucky Schumer as en Envoy to fix this mess. I bet he will finally shut the fuck up. He sits in NY and yaks away.
Facebook broke Egypt, now Facebook has to fix it!
No, that was Twitter. You're thinking of Morgan Stanley.
+1000 Jobe.
Fuck Schumer needs to have his reading peepers shoved up his ancient ass.
" a major Islamist power ascending in control of a formerly secular nation will hardly be seen as beneficial by Israel. "
i call it karma -What Goes Around Comes Around
Burka, the new cover-up.. Very trendy
Sexy
Choomboy's peeps take control, he is high fiving Hillary! as we read.
Will take the heat off the Eastern Front, for now. Give Syria, Lebanon and Iran a bit of a rest.
Tag team wrestling. Bring on the metal chairs!
Congrats to the people's voice being heard. Granted 51% barely makes a majority, but it is a step in the right direction. Make politicians in America and Isreal earn their money now -> no free pass with a puppet in power.
LOL. Nice one. Next time you might want to use /sarc so people don't get the wrong impression.
A game of golf will cure everything at the whorehouse. USSA is gonna lose this battle and will be whining.
USSA is gonna lose this battle and will be whining.
Prepare for WWIII,this is end times prophecy unrolling right before our eyes,your seeing it first hand.
And thank the Kumhander in thief for the hell fixing to come.Every nation HE has so called rescued(from the murderers,) has been taken over by Islamic Fundies, ALL of them.
If what you thought was going on is bad, you ain't seen anything yet.
A pregnant woman in Egypt was beaten to death by HER husband because she would not vote for the guy that won.
No doubt that the border to Gaza is going to be opened up quite soon...and Israel is going to freak. Bullish for silver durhams. Bullish for gold dinars. Bullish for piles of shit and fans as well.
Didn't know the border was closed actually.
People can obtain visas and enter Egypt, but goods shipments and trade are still banned. Not for long though. I just heard that Israel is massing troops near Gaza and has activated some reservists as well. Bullish (for stackers).
why on earth would israel be on alert? they didn't do anything!
/sarc off
Mohamed Morsi of the Freedom and Justice Party, the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood...
Did they get the idea for the party name from American politicians? Methinks the Egyptians will get their Freedom and Justice in exactly the same place Americans received their Hope and Change. crammed right up the arse...
Jeez, doesn't anyone check their spelling? That's Hope and Chains.
Egypt will become another iran
At least i hope so
Who lost Egypt?
I want to see just how big a puppet the Muslim Brotherhood will be to the Military. You don't win much when there is no Parliament.
Henry kissinger must be squirming in his shoes; the end of an age. Just when the US tries to take out the LAST anti-west arab Oligarch in Syria a new one is born is bigger Egypt. Its called the law of water finding its own level; even arab water.
Reset in arab world now compromised. As the key lynchpin to global regional riches stays Saudi and Emirates constellation. All without armies since the US-Saud handshake in 1945 : our armies, your freedom, re-enacted in 1973 : our armies, your oil/freedom. Since then, the oil kingdoms have NEVER had large home armies : too dangerous; a Saddam, an Assad, a Nasser! Always relied on good ole Uncle Sam, like on Rule Britannia before!... Operation jackboots on Desert storm ground!
And now, this turning point. Will Brotherhood plus army relooked over time become the Mamelukes of old and decide to fight Crusader kingdom in Holy land and Pope of Jerusalem-Oil?
Anything can now happen as the grip of new Pope/Holy Empire slips on Jerusalem of oil. WIth the new Mongols now crying "our time is ripe to gripe Golden Horde Orda chimes" and new ALexander Nevsky of Novgorod, ally to Mongol Horde, saying the same thing in Moskovi.
Awesome reenactment of the rise of Baybars of Mamlukia fame. We are in 1244 of old....history is a very sweet n sour bitch. It makes me itch.
Scholarly +1
Some things don't ever change much, huh?
lol, ask your wife!!!
Wonder if Mursi owns a blue turban ???
He said rhyme.
Once more, in English if you please.
Short Nile cruise operators.
Just wait until the women are frolicking about on the beach, showing off their latest warm weather burqas (sporting an extra 5 cm of risky mesh screening for those sultry flirts). Scharm el Sheikh is going to be a ghost town in no time.
Obama and Clinton are 100% responsible for this disater. The US is now in the hands of clowns!.
falak's post has a little more perspective on the issue
No no no!
It's all Reagan & Bush x 2's fault!
/sarc
tick tick tick
The Pharoahs must be turning in their sarcophagi.
Hyksos, Nubians, Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Persians, Arabs, Turks ... after all that what does Pharaonic Egypt have to do with modern Egypt, or modern Egyptians with the ancient inhabitants of that land? The pharaohs began rolling in their sarcophagi long, long ago.
The only problem is that this guy was educated in the US I'm afraid he's the new US meat puppet for Egypt
Hmmmm. US educated. Another Rothschild/CIA creation like Obama? The agenda of the banking cartel throughout the last 300 years is to profit from chaos. Let's see if this election provides more of the same.
"He obtained his doctorate from the University of Southern California in 1982 after earlier studying at Cairo University.
Following his studies in the United States, he returned to Egypt in 1985. Two of his five children hold U.S. citizenship."
The new US puppet ?
You would think they (the CIA) would have these co opted "demacratic" electtions down by now to sneak their meat puppets in there. I'm sure they did
golden dawnish brown puh-puh-puh..muppet.
He looks like the meathead in Greece.
Not even the appearance of an organic movement this time around.
Hitler, they groomed his ass for 20 years or so.
They just throw the puppets on stage now.
And the legions of brainless idiots drink the suicidal kool-aid.
Willfully following whatever path their diety implanted
brainwashing dictates to them. Again.
Quick send in McCain and Joe Liberman to congradulate them.
We offer you these cruise missiles in the name of peace!
So Barry, don't cross the Mursi ...
Maybe McCain can call them Freedom Fighters.
Muslim Brotherhood Credo:
God is our objective
the Quran is our constitution
the Prophet is our leader
struggle is our way
and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations
Get ready, kuffar bitchezz
mein kampf for bread helmet wearing muslims.
if it failed in 1700 why should it win today? Nope dead cat bounce. But Arab patriotism to win back freedom, now that is the eternal song of Lara...without soviet/jihadist ideology sauce. All totalitarian gripes end in the rubbish bin of history. And the Lara's of Islamic lands will learn to sing. Mark my word, beards or no beards.
if it failed in 1700 why should it win today?
Because these people have long memories, that's why. September 11 (ring a bell) 1683, Battle of Vienna. They want "their" lands back, and that includes Spain, France up to Poitier, and Europe up to the gates of Vienna, then beyond. España irredenta.
I seriously hope you are right, but how many moderate Muslims are in Egypt. And for how long?
He is another Talabani, or karzai, or Zardari, from Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. All western educated all "alis" to the west
I am sure the Coptic Christians are Thanking Obama ( and the Western Powers) big time for this.
It took a while, but it looks like President Obama's 2009 Cairo speech is finally bearing fruit.
Fond Egyptian memory. My wealthy uncle who visited Egypt in the 70's handed a security guard at a museum a small handful of USDs and motioned for him to snag a handful of Tut's daddy or uncle's? shroud. He gave it to me as a gift. I kept it in a drawer with a postcard of the mummy in an outbuilding. Recently I went to retrieve it to show my kids. A mouse had completely chewed it up and made a finely woven nest to raise her naked babies in. Probably some geopolitical rhym there somewhere but I'm not drinking yet and don't want to put out the effort.
WTF? junking a mouse building a nest to have babies?
FASCISTS BY BEARD OR FASCISTS BY GUN - SOME CHOICE
The rise of the Brotherhood everywhere in Arab states perhaps a counter/corrective to the west's mass consumerism, leverage and asset bubbles.
This new Arab client to the west - lets see how quickly they will be co-opted, if not as noted above a "plant" -
AND around she goes
Beck was right.
don't worry.... the USA will "convince" the Egyptians that they voted "wrong" .... because there's democracy and then there is "our'n" democracy.
just ask the Palestinians about the consequences of voting "wrong"
the LAST THING the USA wants is a prosperous functional sovereign foreign REAL democracy
Get used to the phrase "EGYPTIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM."
Of course it will be strictly intended for peaceful purposes though they will not allow the IAEA in to inspect.
prosperous functional sovereign foreign REAL democracy.... LOL, in an Islamic country?????
Another green Monday for the Dow! Wow, between this and the Turkish jet being shot down, I'd expect the market to reach a new high for the year. Too bad the Supreme Court is likely to strike down Obamacare this coming week. THAT news can't possibly be good for the market. ;-)
More Radioactive FuK_U Tuna
this guy is CA surfer, doods&dudettas, hand-picked, deli-quality and from our eternally beloved zag-a-zigU.
[Paste} CV: Member of the MB Executive Bureau. Head of Materials Department, Faculty of Engineering, Zagazig University, Egypt. 2000-2005 Member of parliament for the Zagazig constituency (he was also chairman of the MB Parliamentary Bloc during that period) Assistant Professor in the Faculty of Engineering, Zagazig University, Egypt. Assistant Professor in South California University, USA. Assistant Professor in California University, North Ridge, USA. {end]
slewie thought: bechtel?
Wait - California? Must mean he's a socialist.
he's a US-educated engineer and head of the mBrotherhoodPoliticalParty in egypt and now the PM of same nation
constitution to follow ASAP...
next: TPTB struggle for the libya with the right stuff in that election, next month, which was postponed so certain parties could be outlawed and leaders imprisoned somewhere or other, but is now lookin goood...
GE, recently seeing it's employees go down as felons for administering its financial contracts has recently bragged that it expects $10 bil to its top line from bidniss the new libya and still will have no tax liability. ever!...
zag-a-zig! goooo, spearchukerZ!
You forgot the booyah.
You can take the bunny out of the jungle...
Crip! No, Blood!
Whaddup dawg?
Just another punch and judy show. It will come out later who put him in power. I'm guessing the CIA.
I am guessing THAT got a rousing round of takbir.
"pro-western beliefs"
Is there anybody in the room who actually believes that? Forget that he was educated in the west, it doesn't matter. This guy is an islamist, islam has nothing to do with democracy, women's rights, gay rights or personal freedom. It's about subjugation, succumb to the will of allah or die. Arab spring, my ass.
"[P]ro-western beliefs [...] has nothing to do with democracy, women's rights, gay rights or personal freedom". But, if you're talking central banking, debt as money, cheap labor and resource extraction, you might be on to something. Otherwise, it's divide and conquer, bread and circuses poppycock.
Civilization has benefited greatly when people have been able to make decisions on how to live their own lives. To suggest that an election where the people of Egypt at least have a hope for freedom at last is flawed because the people are wrong in want they want is to side with the tyrants.
In the end, there is only one way to stop Egypt’s military from sliding into the Mubarak tyranny once again… a puppet of the U.S. and Israel and a tyranny over the rights of its citizens…and that is to oppose the military with an organized force. At the moment, the only organized force available has been the Muslim Brotherhood.
I never suggested the elections were flawed, I'm just challenging the western tendency to be rather naive about the moslim brotherhood. Remember all those bright eyed utopians rambling about the arab spring a year ago? If the Egyptians want the moslim brotherhood in power, then by all means that's what they should do and good luck to them. It's their country. I'll just point a couple of nuclear warheads in their direction, just to be safe. As for the freedom to live your own life under an islamist regime, you mean like in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi-Arabia, right? And in Libya things are not working out too well either.
Afghanistan (a few decades ago), Iraq, Libya, were just a few that actually were moving towards secularism and all of them did not require women to be wrapped in a hajab. It is the U.S.A./NATO that has destroyed their secular governments and now, even Libya, is moving back in time. Libya had the highest or one of highest economies in Africa before they were bombed and their nation Looted by USA/France/UK.
We don't know what or how the West is going to use Egypt, but rest assured that the new Prez of Egypt, backed by the MB, is also backed by the West.
I suspect that Israel is becoming an albatross on the West and may be scheduled for obliteration (Syria would not be part of such a crime, nor Egypt....therefore need for Regime changes to more Islamic fundamentalist leadership). The Mainstream jewish contingency in the West, specifically in the US, is quite outspoken in their condemnation of Israel. Listen to Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, Blum, Katrina Vander Heuvel (her hubbie is Jewish), and the rest of the Liberal ultra Left (Who make Millions off the suffering and wars). I highly doubt they really care about the "wars" that they pretend to be against. All of them are millionaires off of their "work" in the so-called "truth and anti-war" movement. Not that Israel is a peach; but there are Israeli Jews that are actual descendents of the Hebrews (the ones primarily that did not migrate to Palestine from Europe), while the Jews of U.S.A. and Europe ARE NOT. It's the US/Europe segments that are instigating all the hate and wars:
First, they use "neo-cons", zionist xtians and jews, to put out the lies and get the war machine going. Then, they use their liberals to start Anti-war sites, write anti-war sentiment for publish on zionist media (along with the constant counter posts by the rightwing branches), which not only helps demonize their host nations, but also serves as a buffer to any possibility of REAL Anti-war organizeing. Along come the "personalities" that run sites like Democracy Now or Salon.com (Glenn Greenwald), who can easily smear U.S. policy (that their neo-cons set up), and talk about how "racist" all the Americans are (but they are only talking about the non-jewish whites, ignoring the mountains of crimes against working class whites).
This whole scenario is just the same agenda and storylines that have been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years. You just have to look at what they did to Germany and Russia to know what they are going to do to the U.S. It is devious and evil.
The MSM, canardo, is a vast propaganda apparatus first mobilized on an extensive scale in 1917 by Edward Bernays, “the father of propaganda,” and others to “Make the World Safe for Democracy,” i.e., war. Nothing has changed. Therefore, it is very wise to take the media’s poison regarding the hatred of others with a grain of salt, i.e., with an antidote of truth.
It would then not be so surprising that a story such as the following gives evidence that the vast majority of Iranian Jews are happy in their Iranian homeland.
In August of 2007, Haaretz.com published an article headlined: Iranian Jews blast offer of cash for immigrating to Israel…
Sponsors of a video of this story, uploaded by ARDESHIRAN on Dec 31, 2007 and dedicated to the Honorable Representative Morris Motamed, Jewish Member of Iranian Parliament (Majles), and to “hundreds of patriotic Iranian Jews who continue to live in their ancient motherland nation of Iran and add to its rich culture and civilization,” and entitled - Iranian Jews to Israel: Our National Identity Is Not for Sale – wrote:
“Sorry Israel. Iranian Jews can’t help you with that. They love their motherland nation of Iran and believe your offer of $10,000 per person constitutes bribery and outmost disrespect to them. Iranian Jews’ honor and patriotism is NOT for sale.”
Here are the words delivered in the video by Rep. Motamed of the Iranian Parliament:
“The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradable for any amount of money.
“Jewish Iranian identity is not a commodity that passes from the hands of one merchant to another in return for money.
“Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran’s Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews.”
Why was Israel offering money to Iranians to leave Iran? Because the “Biggest Emerging Threat to Israel Is Negative Populations Growth… In 2007, more citizens left Israel than came in (Source CIA Handbood – 2007).”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Ws0Xy4QjE&feature=related
educated in the West doesn't mean squat. I was educted in the west and I'm ready for a full scale revolution to get rid of the scum running this country into the ground
Now can you people all go back to drinking tea and eating hummus?
/sarc
Who cares? The military made sure that the current president will be toothless. Bread and circuses.
Muslim Brotherhood. Guess I can't complain with a President currently going by the name of Barak Obama.
do you folks have any idea how many weapon systems US defense contractors have sold Egypt, our 'allie' over the past few decades?
The Israelis are happy probably because they figure another military coup is on the way. Getting rid of Mubarak, from start to finish, has been an internal military coup.
Seriously, every attempt at liberalization or democratization in the secular Arab dictatorships (or even Turkey) brings to power Islamic parties. These MB clones didn't predict it, or instigate it. But, from Iran in 1979 to Iraq in 2006, to "Palestine" in 2007, to Egypt in 2012, the MB and its wannabe imitators are organized, loaded with money, and motivated, even if they're a minority in these societies. They end up on top in these situations, over and over.
None of these regimes will survive this decade. Only the conservative Arab monarchies have a chance. Most investors should stay away from the Middle East, except for Israel and maybe Turkey, the only countries in the region with real financial markets. The conservative monarchies and certain other places have stock markets for show to foreign visitors; the only real investment opportunities in those countries are private and available solely to cronies, relatives, etc., of the rulers.
Anyone speaking otherwise is a rube, ready to taken to the cleaners at the suq.
Eric Margolis, until 2010 a contributing editor to the Toronto Sun chain of newspapers writing mainly about the Middle East, South Asia and Islam, paints a picture quite different from yours and the MSM’s of the Muslim Brotherhood…
Excerpt from Egypt Headed for an Explosion : (June 2, 2012) Egypt did not stage its revolution so that Mubarakist autocracy and the fierce police state that kept it in power could return. So that the circles of corrupt businessmen and cronies around Mubarak could resume their plundering of the economy. Or so that Egypt could remain under the thumb of the United States and, indirectly, Israel…
Washington is deeply alarmed the Brotherhood may abrogate the hated, one-sided 1979 Camp David treaty with Israel. Most Egyptians rightly see the treaty as void because Israel violated one of its most important provisions: that Israel would withdraw from the West Bank and permit creation of a Palestinian state. But in a US election year in which pro-Israel forces dominate the Republican Party, Egypt’s nationalists and Islamists are well advised caution.
It’s no coincidence young Egyptians dismiss the Brotherhood, “your grandfather’s party.” Its conservative members, many engineers and academics, have little experience in the dirty game of politics and it often appears stuffy and slow.
For, as Margolis warned before the election, if “the military win the next vote, Egyptians could turn dangerously radical as the revolution that began in Tahrir Square goes violent. “
http://ericmargolis.com/2012/06/egypt-headed-for-an-explosion/
The West is backing this MB leader and has been obviously getting rid of Secular leaders all over the middle east, these last 10 years.
We are now left with ultra right wing Islamic fundamentalists in puppet positions in several nations (including the West's Jewish Crown Royal family in Saudi Arabia). The West just lies about it to the public through the Corporate-State controlled media.
For some reason the West wants it this way, and "Al Qaeda" supposedely worked with the West to topple and murder Qaddafi. This shows that the entire "War on Terror" is bogus and is in actuality the Western nations controlling the middle East. There are sites that are getting the truth out on these matters.
A few weeks ago I started noticing that Zero Hedge is infested with operatives working the threads over, particularly in articles like this one. These operatives infest other comment boards around the internet. It seems their job is to disrupt viable debate and re-direct the narrative away from the truth.