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NATO Member Turkey Says Syrian Jet Take Down Is A Hostile Act
Update 2: CLINTON: SYRIAN DOWNING OF TURKISH JET 'BRAZEN, UNACCEPTABLE. Just as we expected.
Update: All 28 NATO Allies will meet Tuesday following Turkey's request under article 4 of the Washington Treaty
And so the escalation-cum-provocation-cum false flag is complete. There was a time when shooting down a foreign jet over one's territory was considered self-defense. But not when the one doing the defending is perpetual media bogeyman Syria, which "unnamed sources say" kills hundreds, nay thousands of its own people daily, usually in round, soundbitey numbers. Of course, the other side to the story is irrelevant: the Western-led media is never known to fabricate stories that suit the status quo's power and military industrial complex interests. All that is relevant is for the west, aka NATO, aka Hillary Clinton to get an angle to push for provocation. She just got it. As we suspected on Friday, there was much more than met the eye with the Syrian take down of a Turkey F-4 jet. Remember what we said on Friday: "The only question remains whether Syria's act was offensive or defensive. Naturally, its version is one of self-defense. Turkey obviously will claim it was in its right to be wherever the plane may be, and will say this was an act of provocation. Then NATO, read Hillary Clinton, will promptly step in, and make this a case in which Turkey was in its right and that Syria committed an act of aggression. From there, things will just escalate, and can potentially deteriorate to a far more troubling scale, because as we reminded earlier, Syria has recently become a major symbol for NATO vs the Russia-China axis." And sure enough, just out from CNN: "Turkey declares jet shoot-down a 'hostile' act."
More:
Turkey officially considers the shooting down of one of its military fighter jets by Syria to be a hostile act, the Turkish Foreign Ministry said Sunday.
Turkey delivered the message in a diplomatic note to the Syrian consulate in Istanbul, calling the incident "a hostile movement," ministry spokesman Selcuk Unal told CNN.
Turkish search-and-rescue teams found the wreckage of the fighter jet in the Mediterranean Sea on Sunday, about 1,300 meters (4,260 feet) underwater, he said.
They have not reached the wreck yet, he added. There was no word about survivors of the two-man crew.
The incident raises the temperature between the two regional powers significantly.
Syria gave no warning before shooting down the F-4 Phantom jet which strayed into its territory, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Sunday in an appearance filled with tough talk against Syria.
He accused Syria of spreading "disinformation" about the incident.
"They have created the impression that Syria felt like it was an act of aggression and they shot it down. ... from our perspective that's not the case," Davutoglu told reporters.
The plane in the Friday incident was unarmed, not sending hostile signals, and identifiable as Turkish, he said.
"You have to first send a caution, a warning," he said in the first detailed Turkish statement on the international incident. "If the warning doesn't work, you scramble your planes, you send a stronger signal, you force the plane to land. There wasn't enough time to do any of that in the time that our plane was in Syrian airspace."
"We have to question how it is that an unarmed, solo flight got this response from the Syrians," he said.
He said the fighter jet was in international airspace when it was fired upon.
It had strayed into Syrian territory in a "short, unintentional violation," but was notified by the Turkish side that it had crossed the line, and returned to international airspace, Davutoglu said.
Next steps:
1. NATO issues formal complaint, with open-ended demands.
2. Russia, then China, respond in kind.
3. Geopolitical risk goes offerless.
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pmm009
Back “majorities“??
Hmm, another apologist for jingoism who believes the US government is on a mission to “spread democracy” (Honduras and Bahrain perhaps?)
Get real. US government policies are not determined by desire to promote “democracy” at home or abroad.
However don’t let facts change your belief. Ignore them.
What about logic? Arguments in support for empire expansion have been around a long time. “White man’s burden”, “manifest destiny”, preserving a “friendly business climate”, stopping massacres by “hostiles”, lebensraum, gold, oil, promoting or preventing ethnic cleansing (depending who is doing it), spreading or preventing democracy (depending which side is backed, also useful for promoting Balkanization), and numerous others.
Ultimately, foreign policies are NEVER determined by altruism. It is questionable enough when a government, even a purportedly democratic one, claims to be acting “for your own good” within the borders. Outside the borders, any consideration to others is ALWAYS of secondary importance to the perceived (not necessarily even “vital” ) interests of the government.
In that distinction is found the arrogance of power, hubris, and jingoism that denies the rights of others, kills, maims, evicts, imprisons, and finally rationalizes self-serving conduct as “win-win” for the “future”.
The 1 million Iraqi, and 0.5 million Palestinian refugees in Syria …
But wait, it is almost 4th of July.
Let us wave the flag and pretend
that it never is, and has never been, murder,
or resulted other than “for the best”,
and was “well-intentioned” to boot.
The snail is on the thorn .... Muslim sub-humans are turning their hate on each other ! Poetic justice of Biblical proportions ! Monedas 1929 I Laugh All The Way To The Red Crescent Blood Bank .... Then Whistle On By
Does Zionism know no bounds?
Zealots for Zionism ! I'm not even Jewish .... but I always enjoy seeing the underdog kick ass ! I personally could not tolerate the utter humiliation of being a Muslim ass clown ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Israel Gives Hope For The Oppressed Minorities Everywhere
Are you calling the country that has 300 nukes and full US support (thank you AIPAC!) with billions in defense subsidies the underdog here? Are you nuts?
No...he is a ZioNAZI paid troll, of course, who makes sure he is ALWAYS hopped up on bath salts before he posts on ZH.
A very bad troll at that!
Zionism is a political ideology…you are a Zionist.
Underdog? American foreign policy is totally a function of Jewish money and is completely incomprehensible if it is not identified with the Israel Lobby. The president of the United States must check with Netanyahu several times a day for his orders; the U.S. Congress applauds Netanyahu with standing ovations in Soviet-style reactions to Stalin where if you dare to be the first to stop you are punished. How else to explain the 56 applauses and standing ovations by the U.S. Congress in support for Netanyahu for his brutal aggression in Palestine?
How can Americans solve this hate-based philosophy that has the country by the throat if they are prohibited from identifying the problem?
You're speaking of symptoms. 'America' is nothing but a web of (mostly) monied interests, some domestic some not.
No matter the amount of influence, it's still only a problem not the problem. The problem is that you're completely for sale. There are no limits.
Liberty is only sold by fools. And the protection of liberty hinges on the protection of sovereignty.
Perhaps others might feel differently, but I believe the danger to sovereignty is America’s Number One problem and the efforts of the Zionist neocons and a tyranny of the banker cartel are, since we are not in a world war, the primary threats to American sovereignty.
Sovereignty is THE problem. Everything else fails if America loses her liberty. For what is employment, a flashy car, an “education,” or a house if you lose sovereignty, and then your freedom…
Sheesh people. It's ONLY ONE PLANE! This is good for the market, don't you know? Besides the freest elections ever held in the history of mankind in Egypt have yielded the ideal candidate for stability! Attaboy O'bama! That Carter-Iran template for foreign policy is working out perfectly.
Dow to the moon Monday! LOL
Here's something else to think about. Syrian leader Bashir al-Assad's wife Asma al-Assad was a former investment banker in London(and New York?). from wiki:
Hmmm...interesting. I for one did not know that.
that from: http://www.presidentassad.net/ASMA_AL_ASSAD/Asma_Akhras_Al_Assad.htm
More dots to connect, or nothing meaningful?
"I am the real dictator." ~ Asma al-Assad
That certainly IS fascinating! Good info. Now we have to speculate as to her pillow talk with Assad. It's amazing what a woman can get a man to do or promise while b/t the sheets. Sorry, guys...it's just the truth.
Maybe her banking profession was just part-time and a cover story for her CIA empoyment. Maybe outlandish, maybe not.
"CIA employment"
IMO more likely that she'd be Brit intel...no matter though, all of the 'intel agencies' in the world are associates and bankster tools.
America's defense - the Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, Canada, Mexico. We could spend $.01 on defense a year and still be safe. Yeah, I've been in the military; yeah, I've been to war; yeah, I've been in combat. I also understand supply and logistics and that is why two oceans and two countries are all the defense we need. As far as nuclear ballistic missles and stand alone nukes go, talk to your congressional representative - there ain't no defense other than junking all that exist in the world...
USA is going down the toilet because of oversized military. That almost trillion dollars are away from public education and infrastucture budgets and countless other things which are vital for any country.
We spend more on "Social" projects than on our military .... it's not even close ! Our Ponzi resources aren't nearly exhausted .... the backward world was a vacuum .... ripe for Pax Americana Ponzi domination .... we did it because of the stupid socialist world defaulted .... and let us ! Don't blame us for taking advantage of the world on a silver platter of socialist blather ! The world was an attractive nuissance .... and we dove in ? Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad You'd Start A Ponzi Scheme If You Could
We're going down because "progressives" have seized control of our country.
Obama administration, including his czars and his closest Progressive supporters, are planning a manufactured insurgency against America. Using the media to garner both sympathy and support for his unfinished goals
The planned re-election of Obama, revolutionary style
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516
REMEMBER IRAN AIR 655.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
Those were light AA guns and a medium AA gun. You can tell by the sounds and the fire rates. If the light AA opened up then the jet was nearly overhead, even the medium would still hit it well inside Syrian airspace.
The Jet couldn't have been brought down anywhere but just along the beach, the crash splash on the video is maybe a mile out. Momentum would carry it after the killing hits.
NATO flew into Syria. Syria gunned them down, their right under international law! Simple story.
S-60 and ZSU have a slant range in the 15,000 feet +/- range.
Stupid fragger or pilot, neither considered "Weapons Free."
- Ned
"Nato says blah, blah, blah..."
False flags, lies, deceit, illusion, deception, falsehoods, misinformation, disinformation, etc... Just standard procedure.
Prepare.
President elect Morsi was a professor at Cal State Northridge ! Like Rush says .... export Liberalism .... it's our best secret weapon ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Laughing At Muslim Stupidity
'over time, even the tiniest weed is capable of splitting the mighty cornerstone'
Syria has no Oil! Syria, has 'No Beef' with Turkey, period! Syria has a landscape,... a bountiful, and beautiful landscape - 'The Bride of the Dessert'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyra
At last, casus belli.
Therefore sold SPY Jul 133 calls at profit toward Friday close and bought QQQ Jul 65 and SPY 134 puts...
http://richcash8tradeblog.blogspot.com/
The Nato story has changed and changed again.
The syrian one has been constant.
Likwise with all the crap going on, why was the 'test' flight so close to the Syrian border.
Who the hell shows 'test' flights off to their neighbours? If something goes wrong, you're likely to cross in to their airspace and create a diplomatic incident.
You only have to look at the map link below and realise so long as the piolet stays north everything is fine.
So why do a 'test' flight south....
http://www.mapsofworld.com/syria/syria-political-map.html
Puppet govts and militaries, that's who!
Of course, I know you were speaking rhetorically.
UK newspaper article circa 2008:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/24/syria.israelandthepalestinians
quote:
so what happened...did Assad's 'formerly' a bankster wife tell him "my 'former' masters want war, it's more profitable"??
Great, just what we need, another war. I'm getting so sick of this shit.
Thank God for Muslim ass clowns making me laugh .... when I laugh I can't keep full jack boot pressure on the Nigger's and Socialist's necks ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Thanks Cruel And Stupid People For Making Me Look Good
sprechen ze english bitch cos your sure cannot write it.
now shut up and get back to your hogs dey are might hungry after you have spent the day insemenating them : )
i can smell WW3 on the horizon
That will start when Iran is attacked, and, Surprise! They already have nukes, which they use against the NATO thugs.
Did they get 'em from Israel?
This is one more step in the proxy war between Syria-Russia-Iran and Syrian Rebels-US-Israel. Here's how we need to take advantage of the situation. Good old divide and conquer:
1. Stoke the fires of war and get Turkey and Syria to escalate hostilities. This will weaken the Syrian regime even more and cause the Syrian rebels to gain strength as its people are further alienated from the brutal Assad dictatorship.
2. Continue to feed weapons, intelligence, and other materiel to the Syrian rebels and increase the number of US and UK special forces on the ground there already.
3. Before too long, the Assad government will be so weakened that the Syrian rebels will topple the government. The rebels have already been compromised by the CIA and can be a puppet US regime.
4. At that point, Israel (who controls US policy in the Middle East) will basically control Syria and then have a buffer state and counterweight to Iran's sphere of influence. Mission accomplished: a world safer for Judaism and God's chosen people.
This is an opportunity for Realpolitik at its best. Once again, Israel comes out on top playing everyone else for fools. Its nice to have a big brother like the US that does our dirty work and pays for our military for us.
Re CLINTON: SYRIAN DOWNING OF TURKISH JET 'BRAZEN, UNACCEPTABLE
Hillary, it is YOU, that is brazen and unacceptable - not to mention insufferable and replusive
.
Still consider the NATO talk complete BS, but if some people need their WW3.
De jure, even Turkish forces engaging Russian marines and Chinese and Iranian "engineers" within Syria's borders does not call for triggering NATO's common defence clause...which makes me think, whatever happened to those French soldiers captured in Homs ?
Hill*ry carries alot of weight at these meetings...literally.
Get one thing straight. Assad is the religious minority, the Alaouite verge upon heresy to Islamic Orthodoxy being a secretive sect whose members are born into it. They are viewed with suspicion beyond even certain sects of Shiite or the Ismailli's. As a result Assad has done everything to keep his power base amongst the Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox. He also tried to neutralzie the Muslim Brotherhood organizations by siding with the palestenians while also working with the Baathists across the region. The Homs massace all those years ago was against fundememtalists. The socitey as a result has always had to be somewhat secular like Libya's. Thisis why everyone is upset the we ar enow siding with are "allies" against Al Qaida during the ten year trillion dollar war on terror. I'm not showing my support for Assad or Russia, i'm showing my oposition to the people we have been fighting for 10 years. TBT and SMB12 are talking nonsense, non muslims only dissapear when the wars start.
Assad is against Barry X, co-president of the MB?
He's doomed.
It is the pilots fault for not evading a clearly designated missle.
It is the Air Ops officers fault for assigning a flying brick to that mission.
It is the grounds fault for being so hard.
It was just a mid air collision between the Syrian version of a Predator drone and a Turkish pilot out for a scenic tour.
I think realistically Russia will have an agreement with the US to partion Syria. Make the alawites and Christians have a coastal homeland. it will become a Russian protectorate. Russia will have its military base but Assad will give up power and there will be a new leader of the alawites whose last name is not Assad. They Sunnis will control Syria proper or merge with sunni Iraq. Every one wins except Iran. The consequences of having Russia lose its base because of a NATO intervention or NATO/GCC backed rebel victory is bad. Russia will be infuriated. They will possibly help Iran speed up its nuclear program and arm them with better AA systems(ie S-3000),and anti ship missiles(Yakhont missiles). It will openly state it will back Armenia in the event of war with Azerbaijan. It will break away from negotiations with the START treaty,will not talk to the west about the eastern Europe nuclear shield etc. There is no guarantees for Russia getting its base after Assad falls now. The opposition hates Russia and China. So Russia will troll the west in other ways. The last thing Washington needs is a pissed of Russia trollin the world. So the best way is to allow an Alawite homeland with no Assad in charge that will be a Russian protectorate. The Sunnis will be pissed but they cpuld be allowed to merge with Iraqi anbar province since Iraqi Sunnis are calling for federalism and hate Malaki. Syria is bound to split up.
So the alawites and Christians take the coast. The Kurds take the northeast and merge with the KRG in Iraq. The sunnis take the rest of Syria. The west and Israel will like it because it will prevent the rise of a Muslim Brotherhood-controlled Sunni Islamist Syria emerging as a new challenge to Israel and the West. Russia will like it because they can keep their base and have a nation under their protection. Saudi Arabia will like it because its breaks Iran's shia crescent. Also Iraqi sunnis will love it because they can have a sanctuary to wage a separatist war against Malaki. Iran and shia Iraq will be pissed of course.
employees who can stick to the template are worth every penny of their salary
-jb
In Greece Almost everyday Turkish military jets violate Greek Airspace with formations and even Turkish military Frigates go near Athens so these are not news for us...
if you google turkish greek dogfight you will find many videos....
On the contrary, i don't know if Greeks do the same since there are not any official data.
possibly relevant?
Turkey and Greece are in NATO, Syria is not.
Turkey has economic sanctions against Syria, and is pushing for "regime change".
It is Related because in my opinion it shows the Turkish militaristic mentality that they invade foreign aerospace almost everyday even within Nato ally aerospace and if you think that they are Nato allies and this behaviour is permitted you have to know that many warnings are issued in order for them to retreat since their fly plan is not known and the fly many times armed with weapons....
And wtf kind of pilots does the Turkish air force have anyway - "straying" across a dotted line that you could see on an iPhone.
http://bengalunderattack.blogspot.nl/2010/05/primer-before-new-post-grea...
On Sunday, Turkish TV confirmed that the Turkish and Syrian search teams had located the wreckage of the fighter jet at a depth of 1,300 meters, in Syrian territorial waters, thereby refuting the allegations that the plane had been shot down in international waters.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31570
but, but
that is just "opinion" based on some fact,
and facts only get in the way of action.
Hillary, has said this is "unacceptable", (worse than the US invasion of Iraq, never unacceptable to her)
doubtless she has other unreported facts (WMDs) which for national security reasons alone, she cannot reveal,
ever.
Hillary would have NATO defend its "honor",
for Hillary is an honorable politician,
so are they all,
all honorable politicians at NATO.
Am beginning to understand why Monica Lewinski looked good.
Wow, what a coinicdence all that deep-water surveillance gear was right nearby. They sure make those transponders quite sturdy to be operating when the rest of the automated drone,.... uh manned aircraft was blown to bits.
the israeli army kill the children of palestine.
shoot and kil journalists.
send not so special forces onto turkish peace ships.
they slide down ropes from helicopters and shoot unarmed TURKISH people some in the back of the head at point blank range.
a turkish man who is unarmed has his brains blown out IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS.
hostile acts that went unpunished the killers where treated as heroic back home in the ever expanding jewish lands.
ertogan the turkish pig has had 10s of millions of pounds placed in a swiss bank account thanks to the jewish house of saud.
the rat bastard house of saud are now funding the syrian slaughter house.
as they will also do in iran next.
this money play..this puppet power show.
fuck this shit
now, now... some peace-loving rats like yers trooly are trying to get people to the table
the europeon nations will have a chance to encourage all the parties in syria to stop and smoke-um w/ slewie & zeroHeads everywhere peace pipe
give peace a chance, NAT0 BiCheZ!
serially!
Meanwhile, our friend Vlad is staying busy: Monday in Israel (yet to be visted by Obummer), Tues in West Bank & Jordan (Reuters). Scrambling to prove he really is a "player"in ME..... curiouser & curiouser.
Meanwhile, how come my ZH page features Chinese Girls Dating Website ad? The chick looks to be all of 15. Shit. It is claimed that ads pop up based on your web cruise history. Bullshit... i never go anywhere. Mybe they captured my profane postings collected by NSA & made an inference...?
I get a weird mix of Russian dating sites, commodities trading, Visit Greece ads and get this, women's clothes. All of which has nothing to do with my surfing habits.
...since only a woman would pick a magpie avatar ?
hey, again!
i went to copy the link off the banner atop my zH page here and it went to a utoob! here's the link, if it copied: Shooting games on YouTube (doesn't look like the link copied)
here's what opened when i tried to copy it from the top-banner ad
Favela Superfast Knife Ace - YouTube
enjoy!
edit: just another reminder to BiCheZ to try the "ad choices" menu on the zH ads
i now have a visit israel link to walk where jesus walked and an invite to study mental health @ capellaU. if i wanted a loan, i would do it in a heartbeat L0L!!!
Slewie: Only YOU could make someone cry from laughing so hard due to a discussion about ad clicks!
I wish I could meet you in person....I bet you are quite the character.
Have you ever wondered what an in-person ZH commentor "reunion" would be like? You know...complete with name and avatars on nametags? I dunno...could be sort of frightening!
lol. Running windows 8? :)
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/russia-warns-turkey-nato-against-military-act...
Russia warns Turkey, NATO against military action Syrian army on second highest alert after downing of aircraftRussia has sent a backdoor warning to Turkey and NATO that Moscow will not tolerate any military action against Syria in response to the downing of a Turkish aircraft on Friday, according to a Syrian government source.
The source told WND the Syrian military is on its second-highest alert as Turkey announced yesterday it will discuss the downing of one of its military jets by Syria with NATO officials at a special meeting on Tuesday.
Also...
- Putin will be in Israel tomorrow, in Jordan tuesday.
- 3 Russian warships are heading to Syria right now, should be there this week.
No way NATO has the balls to go against Russia.
"No way NATO has the balls to go against Russia"
Ron Paul respectfully disagrees ... June 19th ...
"This past week however, it was reported that the Pentagon indeed has finalized plans to do just that. In my opinion, all the evidence to justify this attack is bogus."
http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul810.html
RP is right on.
Russia's not the "country" it used to be. It's basically a mob-run resource extraction plantation, these days.
URGENT: Expose NATO Dirty Tricks in Syria BEFORE They Happen (2012-06-12)
Thierry Meyssan
June 12, 2012
In a few days, perhaps as early as Friday, June 15, at noon, the Syrians wanting to watch their national TV stations will see them replaced on their screens by TV programs created by the CIA. Studio-shot images will show massacres that are blamed on the Syrian Government, people demonstrating, ministers and generals resigning from their posts, President Al-Assad fleeing, the rebels gathering in the big city centers, and a new government installing itself in the presidential palace. This operation of disinformation, directly managed from Washington by Ben Rhodes, the US deputy national security adviser for strategic communication, aims at demoralizing the Syrians in order to pave the way for a coup d’etat. NATO, discontent about the double veto of Russia and China, will thus succeed in conquering Syria without attacking the country illegally. Whichever judgment you might have formed on the actual events in Syria, a coup d’etat will end all hopes of democratization. The Arab League has officially asked the satellite operators Arabsat and Nilesat to stop broadcasting Syrian media, either public or private (Syria TV, Al-Ekbariya, Ad-Dounia, Cham TV, etc.) A precedent already exists because the Arab League had managed to censure Libyan TV in order to keep the leaders of the Jamahiriya from communicating with their people. There is no Hertz network in Syria, where TV works exclusively with satellites. The cut, however, will not leave the screens black. Actually, this public decision is only the tip of the iceberg. According to our information several international meetings were organized during the past week to coordinate the disinformation campaign. The first two were technical meetings, held in Doha (Qatar); the third was a political meeting and took place in Riyad (Saudi Arabia). The first meeting assembled PSYOP officers, embedded in the satellite TV channels of Al-Arabiya, Al-Jazeera, BBC, CNN, Fox, France 24, Future TV and MTV. It is known that since 1998, the officers of the US Army Psychological Operations Unit (PSYOP) have been incorporated in CNN. Since then this practice has been extended by NATO to other strategic media as well.They fabricated false information in advance, on the basis of a “story-telling” script devised by Ben Rhodes’s team at the White House. A procedure of reciprocal validation was installed, with each media quoting the lies of the other media to render them plausible for TV spectators. The participants also decided not only to requisition the TV channels of the CIA for Syria and Lebanon (Barada, Future TV, MTV, Orient News, Syria Chaab, Syria Alghad) but also about 40 religious Wahhabi TV channels to call for confessional massacres to the cry of “Christians to Beyrouth, Alawites into the grave!.” The second meeting was held for engineers and technicians to fabricate fictitious images, mixing one part in an outdoor studio, the other part with computer generated images. During the past weeks, studios in Saudi Arabia have been set up to build replicas of the two presidential palaces in Syria and the main squares of Damascus, Aleppo and Homs. Studios of this type already exist in Doha (Qatar), but they are not sufficient. The third meeting was held by General James B. Smith, the US ambassador, a representative of the UK, prince Bandar Bin Sultan (whom former U.S. president George Bush named his adopted son so that the U.S. press called him “Bandar Bush”). In this meeting the media actions were coordinated with those of the Free "Syrian" Army, in which prince Bandar’s mercenaries play a decisive role. The operation had been in the making for several months, but the U.S. National Security Council decided to accelerate the action after the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, notified the White House that he would oppose by all means, even by force, any illegal NATO military intervention in Syria. The operation has a double intent: the first is to spread false information, the second aims at censuring all possible responses. . . .
http://www.voltairenet.org/NATO-preparing-vast-disinformation
Cross-posted at: http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/06/urgent-expose-nato-dirty-trick...
I noticed an uptick of 'issues' in several key regions where the timing couldn't be more convienient.
"Dangerous, armed, slow-moving sampans have attacked our battleships in the waters off North Veetnam. Our sail-ors and ma-rines were in grave danger until these ramshackle sampans, sporting dangerous AK-47 rifles, were destroyed by B-52 air strikes, canons, and ship-to-ship missiles.
"We must end the danger to our forces in the Gulf of Tonkin. Ah need yore help, as pres-i-dent, to fight these dangers. Ah mus' have a res-o-looshun to allow Ameruhican forces to deffeet the North. "
---LBJ
Go visit LBJ's ranch and at the end of the tour there is a stone garden, look at the names of those who visited.
ma_trix:
nothing like having the CIA start taking over all the fuking TV channels at once (signature stuff is not negotiable after 40 years), is there?
anyone still watching TV when this happens should probably be at lease 12 feet underground, just as a margin requirement...
let's see here...: the CIA has taken over my TV what should i do?
elvis, hunterThompson,and randyWeaver all agree: shoot the fuker!
From Wikipedia: Israel Turkey F4 Military collaboration
Annual U.S.-Turkish-Israeli training exercise, 2009
In 2007, Israel and Turkey discussed the possibility of selling Israeli Ofeq satellites and Arrow missile air-defence systems to Turkey to upgrade Turkish military and intelligence capabilities.[17] Israeli defense companies have helped to modernize the F-4 Phantom fleet of the Turkish air force. Agreements have included air, sea, land and intelligence cooperation, manufacturing of aircraft, armaments and missiles, mutual military visits, training and exercises, dispatch of observers to oversee military exercises, staff exchanges and military know-how.[23]
In September 2011, all military agreements between Turkey and Israel were suspended.[26] Turkey has frozen 16 defense contracts worth billions of dollars since March 2010. Turkey suspended a 5 billion dollar deal for 1,000 Merkava Mk 3 tanks. Turkey also dropped Israel Aerospace Industries Arrow-2 anti-ballistic missile system worth $2 billion from bidding. Now only U.S, European, and Chinese companies can bid.[24]
[edit]Now where did Syria get that Reaper drone from? Oh it had USAF on the side? Never mind, carry on with war-ish stuff.
Looks like the remote control on-board made finding the wreck easy. Too bad they haven't located the crew yet.
Do you every get the feeling our government isn't telling us everything ? What government does ? Therefore all government at 10% of GNP and shrinking ? Consumer electronics get better and cheaper over time .... why don't we hold government to that standard ? Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad National Budget Indexed To The Cost Of Consumer Electronics
I used to feel deprived .... because I was born too late for blood sport in the Roman Coliseum ? I know I would have loved it ! Events like Syria go a long way to fill the void of insufficient blood sport in my life ! Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad Lower The Crime Rate By Legalizing Blood Sport
monedas.
nobody is interested in your life.
just because you where sodomized as a boy does not give you the right to give us a headache with your cuntish bitch jibber jabber.
Plus one for using "jibber jabber".
Make Syria into a vassel state of Greater Lebanon. Just for the irony.
There be lots of 7 course dinners and champagne flowing on Tuesday.....
I have an idea, why don't we ban all nuclear weapons?
The USA and Russia and France and Britain, China... we will all dismantle our nukes. And we former nuclear powers will agree that our forces will combine to make sure no other nation has such weapons.
Oh DAMN. You all would never agree because that would mean Iran can never be a nuclear blackmailer.
Are you really that dumb? LOL
Nuclear deterrence is what gives this world a relative 'peace' among the major powers after WW2. With such overwhelming dominance of the conventional build-ups by the USSA, nuclear arsenal is the sole deterrence from preventing the central banskters from taking over the entire planet. That's why so far there is not any direct clash among the major powers!
Nuclear Primacy: Thinking the Unthinkable
While the Soviet era armed forces have undergone a drastic shrinking down since the collapse of the USSR in 1991, Russia has tenaciously held on to the core of its strategic nuclear deterrent. That is something that gives Washington pause when considering how to deal with Russia. The potential for Russia to deepen its military and economic cooperation with its Central Asian partners in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, above all with China, is something Washington has gone to great lengths to frustrate. Such a strategic cooperation is becoming increasingly a matter of life-or-death for both China and Russia. China’s nuclear arsenal is not yet strategic as is Russia’s.
What the Pentagon is going for is what it has dreamed of since the Soviets developed intercontinental ballistic missiles during the 1950’s. Weapons professionals term it Nuclear Primacy. Translated into layman’s language, Nuclear Primacy means that if one of two evenly-matched nuclear foes is able to deploy even a crude anti-ballistic missile defense system that can seriously damage the nuclear strike capacity of the other, while he launches a full-scale nuclear barrage against that foe, he has won the nuclear war.
The darker side of that military-strategic Nuclear Primacy coin is that the side without adequate offsetting BMD anti-missile defenses, as he watches his national security vanish with each new BMD missile and radar installation, is under growing pressure to launch a pre-emptive nuclear or other devastating strike before the window closes. That in simple words means that far from being “defensive” as Washington claims, BMD is offensive and destabilizing in the extreme. Moreover, those nations blissfully deluding themselves that by granting the Pentagon rights to install BMS infrastructure, that they are buying the security umbrella of the mighty United States Armed Forces, find that they have allowed their territory to become a potential nuclear field of battle in an ever more likely confrontation between Washington and Moscow.
Dr. Robert Bowman, a retired Lieutenant Colonel of the US Air Force and former head of President Reagan’s BMD effort of the 1980’s, then dubbed derisively “Star Wars,” noted the true nature of Washington’s current ballistic missile “defense” under what is today called the Department of Defense Missile Defense Agency:
Here is another idea, let Iran become a cinder. They want to play with fire show them fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzAQlIZd5Kc
Hidden US-Israeli Military Agenda: "Break Syria into Pieces"
related:
History of the US-Israel Relationship, Part I
Interesting, one will see the name of RICHARD PERLE in above link - Hidden US-Israeli Military Agenda: "Break Syria into Pieces"
Here are some very impressive track records of this 'amazing' guy!
1970: While working for Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, Ashkenazi Jew, Richard Perle is caught by the FBI giving classified information to Israel. Nothing is done.
1978: Ashkenazi Jew, Stephen Bryen, then a Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffer, is overheard in a Washington D.C. hotel offering confidential documents to top Israeli military officials.
Bryen obtains a lawyer, Nathan Lewin, and the case heads for the grand jury, but is mysteriously dropped. Bryen later goes to work for Richard Perle.
2004: Two years into an investigation of AIPAC’s (The American Israel Public Affairs Committee – the largest political lobbying group in the USA with over 65,000 members whose only purpose is to use the USA for the purposes of Israel) possible role as a spy front for Israel, Ashkenazi Jew, Larry Franklin, a mid-level Pentagon Analyst is observed by the FBI giving classified information to two officials of AIPAC suspected of being Israeli spies.
AIPAC hires lawyer Nathan Lewin to handle their legal defense, the same lawyer who defended suspected Israeli spy Stephen Bryen in 1978. Larry Franklin worked in the Pentagon Office of Special Plans, run by Richard Perle, at the time Perle (who was caught giving classified information to Israel back in 1970) was insisting that Iraq was crawling with weapons of mass destruction requiring the United States to invade and conquer Iraq.
There were no WMDs, of course, and Perle has dumped the blame for the, "bad intelligence," on George Tenet. But what is known is that the Pentagon Office of Special Plans was coordinating with a similar group in Israel, in Ariel Sharon’s office.
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In one giant chart of Bilderberg ( check this superb chart here: http://bit.ly/L1pTZZ ), Richard Perle is regarded as the "Prince of Darkness" with links to the following institutions:
-PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY (PNAC)
-HUDSON INSTITUTE
-US Defense Department
-Institute Policy Board
-Henry Jackson Society
-Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
-Committee on the Present Danger
-Center for Security Policy
-American Enterprise Institute (AEI)
-American Center for Democracy
-The Jerusalem Post
-Autonomy Corporation
-Congressional Staff
-Washington Institute for Near East Policy
-US Committee on NATO
-United States Committee for a Free Lebanon
-Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
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