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With Netflix Back To 52 Week Lows, Here Are The Biggest Losers

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Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:09 | 1688536 YesWeKahn
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They bought for their clients. The ultimate losers are stupid people trusting these funds.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:22 | 1688579 Don Birnam
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Fidelity always seems to find itself in these lists -- and very near the top.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:57 | 1688744 DeadFred
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Do they have any convenient Nigerian interns to blame?

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:10 | 1688542 Pladizow
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Tilson should have held.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:10 | 1688543 Clueless Economist
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I don't feel well...I bought 10 shares @ $300

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:18 | 1688567 Magnix
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Well, what are you waiting for! Sell them!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:24 | 1688602 duo
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Denninger had me ready to short NFLX a couple of months ago.  Having recently been burned shorting AAPL at $360, I decided to sit this one out.  See what happens when you drive the shorts away?  Free fall!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:13 | 1688548 ZeroPower
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Why equivalent? Warrants?

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:19 | 1688555 GeneMarchbanks
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Morgan Stanley is marked for death, GS must be salivating...

OMG, I just took a look at their chart and it's been a swan dive from 200 to 134 and counting.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:14 | 1688557 Gubbmint Cheese
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Aaaaand it's gone

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:15 | 1688559 downtownshuter
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How can this be considered a hit against "value" investors?

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:18 | 1688573 snowball777
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Because they're all "buy" and no "hold".

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 13:41 | 1689434 Stax Edwards
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Agreed, NFLX is pure growth not value 

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:17 | 1688561 lolmao500
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I'm not gonna cry for these scumbags at JPMorgan...


Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:17 | 1688562 Zeff
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Darn it, was looking for Paulson in it.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:17 | 1688563 GoldbugVariation
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Apple?  Is that the company whose entire business for last 20 years has been based on the vision of one man ... who resigned a few weeks back?  Just sayin...

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:19 | 1688578 YesWeKahn
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I believe that this is the last leg run up. Try to short it when it gets to 450. It is basically another phone company. It will be another Nokia.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:43 | 1688684 Buckaroo Banzai
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Um. I'd be super careful shorting AAPL.

Unlike Netflix (whose business model had a nice run but has no future), Apple has clear daylight in front of it.

Look at Apple's competition in the smart phone and tablet space. Apple makes the vast majority of profits (PROFITS) in the smartphone space, despite having a minority market share. Their competition is in complete and utter disarray. Their obvious main competitor (Google/Android) is the market share leader but MAKES NO PROFIT, and just sunk $16 billion into a doomed acquisition. Samsung is the only competitor who is doing ANYTHING right and they are way behind.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:03 | 1688770 Pladizow
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"Yeah, well, you know, that's just like your opinion man." - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsogswrH6ck

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:16 | 1688846 pitz
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That's the entire problem -- anything that is touched by Free/Open Source software eventually has the profit driven out of it. How many proprietary Unix vendors still in business? Let's see, Sun gone, check. DEC gone, check. AIX and HP-UX are basically irrelevant, check. SCO gone, check. Get the drift?

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:17 | 1688853 adr
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Apple has plenty of profit but holds no assets.  I mean really, what is Apple's building worth? That is just about all they own outside the myriad of patents they stole.Apple is just a paper company in the end so its value can plummet just like Netflix.

The iPhone will die eventually and so will the immense profit as the competition continues to erode Apple's marketshare. Why do you think Apple's legal division is working overtime.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 14:37 | 1689623 Waterfallsparkles
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Aapl is up $70. since Steve Jobs Stepped down as CEO.  From $350 to $420.

Nflx is down about $100. since the pre announcement of lower subs.  Yet, they did say that it would not  affect their margins that much.

I am not really sure about Aapl at this price with Steve Jobs gone.  I do think that they will do ok for a while but without the Guru I do not know.  Without Jobs at the announcement of the new IPod 5, I am not sure how it will be received. Plus, what about new innovations without Jobs?  He was the innovator.

I personally just do not think that without Jobs the stock is worth anywhere near where it is trading.  All I think it is all about squeezing shorts to bail out the Mutual Funds and Hedge Funds.  Once people forget about Aapl it will slowly melt down every day until it is a pittance of what it is today.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:25 | 1693210 pitz
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Jobs the innovator?  Hardly.  He wasn't even a very good leader according to the guys I know at Apple.  If anything, the stock went up because of his departure, not in spite of it.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:18 | 1688566 Zeff
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More pains for UBS! Oh sweet!!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:19 | 1688580 monopoly
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Is our patience paying off, so far today, you bet.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:22 | 1688588 Dr. Engali
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Back the truck up and buy buy buy! Sorry thought I was Cramer for a minute. Scared me.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:22 | 1688595 financeguru500
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netflix just thought they were in apple's shoes and that they could charge any price they wanted. Truth of the matter is, netflix was just an alternative for redbox and hulu. They raised their price to much and the people responded. Same would happen if redbox doubled their movie rental price.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:37 | 1688655 DosZap
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Face it, how Netflix ever got to be a $50.00 stock is beyond me.

Their programming sucks, they get new releases 30 late,and their Roku/TV streaming pile of movie choices sucks.

Blockbuster got the new releases 30 days before Netflix(maybe still do), and their in bankruptcy.

Go figure.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:46 | 1688694 SeverinSlade
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Agreed.  I was a Netflix member for a while but I cancelled because the content was terrible.  Nothing like watching a "new release" that came out 3 months ago.

Blockbuster's collapse was due to terrible management.  Seriously, it took them 10+ years to try to get involved in the same business as Netflix.  Had Blockbuster seen the writing on the wall ten years ago and started their DVD mail service then, they'd be a powerhouse right now.  Assuming that they had capitalized on that opp, can you imagine how strong a company they'd be if they had streaming services too?

Alas, they thought technology was going to stay in the 1980s forever. 

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:25 | 1688605 Below Zero
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Nitflix is having a 50 percent off sale. I will wait until they have a liquidation sale on their new image called Quackster. 

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:25 | 1688609 DormRoom
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why are Lulumon, LinkedIn, or OpenTable not dropping like a rock?  The P/E on those companies are ridiculuous.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:52 | 1688710 drivenZ
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LNKD? small float and an already huge short interest. probably support from covering shorts after the last leg down. I tried to play it but it's tricky as it doesn't generally move the way you'd think.  Their earnings were predictable and moved it lower, other than that it's off the wall sometimes. 


long term trend is undeniably lower on LNKD though...when Nov rolls around and the lock-up period is over i expect to see a solid downward trend the next 12 months. Probably towards 40.  

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:26 | 1688611 spartan117
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That's ok, we still got Chipotle at $300+!!!

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:33 | 1688635 monopoly
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Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:35 | 1688642 unununium
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Surprised not to see Dodge & Cox on the list.  They always seem to have a piece of the biggest losers like FNM.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:41 | 1688676 j0nx
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Why Hastings hasn't been shown the door yet is a mystery to me and everyone else. He woke up one day about 6 months ago and swallowed a stupid pill. Guess the untenability of his business model finally caught up to him.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:48 | 1688701 digalert
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YRC brought to you by Teamster union,

achieved zero today.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:51 | 1688714 Raymond K Hassel
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How clueless and desperate are the NetFlix douchebags to spin out Qwikster without attempting to secure the Twitter account name first?  Makes me think they are in a huge rush, for really bad reasons. 

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:10 | 1688813 haskelslocal
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Yeah.. And I can't shake Napster from my mind when I think of Quickster. What idiot picked that name? Had to be a rush... I mean, not even QuickFlix or something similar? Talk about a breakdown... I'm sure they won't fire the douchebag CEO until it's way too late.  

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:51 | 1688717 laserjock
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So you're assuming these companies held NFLX all the way down.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:35 | 1688942 hetch214
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and assuming some of the HFs aren't boxed.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:57 | 1688740 ItsDanger
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Combine poor & erratic video quality, terrible audio, wait times, unimpressive selection, content costs and competition (exisitng and ease of entry), NFLX was an easy short.  Any fund manager that was long this stock, other than for a trade, should be fired immediately.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:57 | 1688745 I am a Man I am...
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terrible analogy with Apple, NFLX needs to drop another 25% plus and you can start comparing numbers, not to mention the companies are completely different, you were dogging apple when it was at $200 bucks a share, gold and Apple have been the two best positions throughout this entire crisis, both should be respected

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:03 | 1689034 I am a Man I am...
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being wrong sucks doesn't it

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:24 | 1689137 Tyler Durden
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The point is that herd behavior has nothing to do with fundamentals. Apple is indeed a cash flow positive company (for how long? who knows - it sure does have innovative products for now). The noted issue however, is that as pointed out recently, more hedge funds own Apple than any other stock. And just as the HF exodus in NFLX has been vicious, it will eventually come to Apple, just as it will come to gold. Remember: when the margin call comes, you always sell your winners first.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:57 | 1688746 YesWeKahn
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Someone is manipulating the market right now. They first pumps apple to stabilize the indices, then pumps the whole market higher. Pretty soon, this game will have to stop when APPLE reaches 1/2 trillion market cap

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:58 | 1688749 Putty
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Thanks Zerohedge.  Great reminder to cancel my subscription.  Done.

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 10:58 | 1688751 J C Bider
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As goes the captain so goes the ship.

Stupid at the top -> Ship hits the reef.

It's time to start shooting some CEOs

Tue, 09/20/2011 - 11:04 | 1688772 haskelslocal
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I think you're right.... However it's not just being stupid, (there's plenty of CEOs playing the guessing game) it's demonstrating that stupidity. Full Retard.

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