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Hello All, 

 

In order to make our reader's experience more enjoyable, we're excited to offer three new features: 

 

1. Zero Hedge Chat;

2. User Relationships; and

3. RSS Comments. 

 

Of the first two: 

 

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First, it should be pointed out that you have access to the Chatrooms without any need to add anyone as a Contact. It sould also be pointed out that if you abuse the chatrooms, you'll be booted from the servers forever. Now, if you want to chat with someone one-on-one, simply click on their name anywhere in the ZH user interface, and you'll see a little like that says "Become __________'s Contact". Click this button. A little bit of javascript will pop up that says "Are you sure?" -- hit "Yes." 

 

Now what? Now you have to wait for the other person to approve you. You'll notice a slick little block on the right sidebar that says "My Relationships". This is where you'll go to see who's trying to add you (Pending), and who you're already friends with. 

 

Are there other reasons to add "Contacts"? Sure. We're designing a number of features that will be centered around the User Relationships function that we'll be releasing over the next 3 to 6 months, so feel free to build a cult. Or two. 

 

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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:05 | 2271940 Global Hunter
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D'Oh I don't even know what an RSS comment or RSS aggregator even is.  I just hope you keep the articles coming.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:16 | 2271993 I think I need ...
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did you guys see peter schiff is releasing a new book? Bankruptcy of the united states......we are screwed its time to hunker down now and let the back half of the hurricane do its job and wipe everyone out

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:27 | 2272034 true brain
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AFter the collapse, Zerohedge will be worth more than Facebook.

Yeah, build up the community. Genius.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:29 | 2272043 SilverTree
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Tyler is in a "Relationship".

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:34 | 2272058 wisefool
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Filing jointly, with 10B dependants.

Unfortunately he does not get a romney tax rate or presidency untill he drops the fight club stuff and introduces children of men memes.

Let me know when the 501c Kony chat starts up.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:08 | 2272166 flacon
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"God's peace to you, Peace Officer. Are you seeking or claiming contract or conflict?"

 

We will all need to know Common Law. I wish there was more about this on ZH. Perhpas in ZH 2.0 we will get more about it. 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:25 | 2272214 Richard Chesler
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A feature to beat the crap out of that scumbag million dollar bonus would be nice to have.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:59 | 2272336 SilverDoctors
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The Fix Is In....
ABC Posted the Results of Tuesday's GOP Primary...MONDAY NIGHT!!!
Screen shot: http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2012/03/abc-posts-results-of-tuesdays-gop.html

And we thought the BBC was off their game for reporting Tower 7's collapse 14 minutes early...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:13 | 2272348 12ToothAssassin
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User relationships?

I for one welcome the new ZH dating site. Is there a section dedicated to Prepper Wives? 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:20 | 2272356 Michael
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Thanks ZH.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:28 | 2272584 Element
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Sacrebleu!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:34 | 2272425 dwayne elizando
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Now if we could only get those psychics over at ABC to tell us exactly where market prices are going we could lever up and get paid!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 06:52 | 2272549 spankfish
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Somebody forgot to reprogram the Diebold date thinge'.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 14:29 | 2274140 illyia
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Thanks - grabbed it! Today is turning out to be so fun!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:47 | 2272604 MolotovCockhead
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million dollar bonus should be given special treatment. He should have a forum all by himself and please don't let him out!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:16 | 2272286 cranky-old-geezer
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"God's peace to you, Peace Officer. Are you seeking or claiming contract or conflict?"

Start that stuff with a cop and contract will move to conflict very quickly.

Cops know zero about law.  All they know about is rules.  They spend their time looking for someone to violate a rule.  

They're not law enforcers.  They're rule enforcers.

Even asking that question shows your lack of understanding.  You acknowledge the cop to be an "officer".  That's military venue by definition, where common law doesn't matter.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:00 | 2272334 Western
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(edited for brevity)

Hey.

Your attitude suggests that you're ok living in a place that practices military law/universal corporate law on law abiding citizens. Not exactly forward thinking, for a fellow ZHer.

That is all. 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:09 | 2272449 Ghordius
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I thought he was just stating a fact.

Remember - also for brevity's sake - that Common Law is a devolutionary/local tradition of a Kingdom (the British). 

We on continental europe have, for example, a completely different legal tradition derived from a Republic (the Roman).

This also makes the definition/understanding of sovereign different, with more emphasis on the personal or collective.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:35 | 2272466 bank guy in Brussels
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But the key aspect of the Continental European legal tradition as well, is that it is Napoleonic Code law ...

Which means it is the heritage of people in the streets in the French Revolution ... storming the Bastille, as we are ready to do again if necessary.

Our heritage is people power in the streets, not 'voting' which can be a manipulated farce or fraud ...

Populist revolution ... In legal terms, the background of why Continental judges are much more restrained ...

Why people's assets are much safer in Continental Europe than in the English-law USA ...

Why the biggest country in the EU jailing people is English-law Britain ... and why the biggest gulag jailer in the world is the English-law USA, with 25 % of all the prisoners in the world (the US jails over 2.3 million)

Whereas there is hardly anyone in jail in Continental Europe.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 05:22 | 2272495 _underscore
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>> Whereas there is hardly anyone in jail in Continental Europe

I thought there must be a reason.

 

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 02:43 | 2287974 Marc_W
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So I read this .pdf and he says real estate has bottomed, the U.S. economy is in full recovery, and now is the time to invest in rental properties in California.

 

Nope.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 05:34 | 2272501 tabasco71
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To behonest, when I have spent time in Spain, Italy and France, I have never felt like the streets were full of maniac killers & lunatics either.

I'll look into this Napoleonic Code law.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 05:51 | 2272515 nmewn
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Louisiana has something approaching it here.

But...to be completely honest, arguing the merits of either and doing a comparison between the two systems does no good when it only applies to us (the commons) and not the elites at the top.

A man's (or a woman's) station in life should not matter in the eyes of the law.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:42 | 2272598 Ghordius
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yes. all systems are prone to corruption - otherwise Corzine would be in jail. though every system is prone to different kinds of corruption

I find the sovereign subject fascinating, but somehow it gets derailed very easily - perhaps it's too alien for most?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 18:56 | 2275132 nmewn
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Agreed on corruption...any judicial system can be corrupted.

I've often remarked on the unfounded "layering" of charges brought by prosecuters under our system. The prosecuter knows most of these will not stand but does it anyway in an attempt to intimidate the defendent and his counsel. In the end (adjudication outside of a jury trial) only the primary charge is really negotiable...the other charges being nothing but bargaining chips in a plea deal so as to not take it all the way to a jury trial.

"I find the sovereign subject fascinating, but somehow it gets derailed very easily - perhaps it's too alien for most?"

I guess I don't understand your meaning of sovereign. 

Most law (from what I've read) is a mixture of the two (Justinian/Magna) on your continent. We have a right to face down our accuser or witness(es) against us just as you do for example.

The societal problem (if I get your drift) is when the elite is held as having more credibility (honesty) than a serf in the eyes of the law. As we know from present & past history the elite is just as human, given to the same lusts, desires, greed, self serving etc. as a serf.

This is not to say I don't understand a certain sense of frustration of allowing a ward of the state (by definition a captured person) the same "rights" as another with real skin in the game...even though they are a "citizen".

I think I explained my thoughts properly here and would be interested in yours...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:48 | 2272586 Ghordius
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Fascinating subject - I'd say you are 100% right with the revolutionary aspect - last seen in the former Soviet Satellites, when the people in the streets chanted "we are the state". I still nearly cry when I think back to 1989...

We'd have to spend also some million words about how the French Revolution and the 1848 burgeouis movements abolished the corporativist roots of Europe (the guilds, the churches, etc.) just to resurface in our socialist and fascist movements later.

While I think you might be right in principle, two things though:

1. some concepts "jump" from one system to the other. Example: the US declaration starts with a (collective-sovereign) "We, the People". (Collective, not collectivist), derived from Roman Republic principles (hence a Capitol in Washington)

>>>  Note: Sovereigns are always "We" in Europe, just listen to a prince.

2. Careful with the jailing statistics - historically, the UK has strongly dampened the former "off to Australia with you" jailing tendencies during and after the Victorian Age. Of course, you might want to claim some influence from the Continent. Debatable.

Look at the modern statistics of jail prisoners per 100'000 inhabitants:

Country                               Stat    Legal System

US                                       737     CL (no, it's really sevenhundredthirtyseven)

 

England                                148     CL

Scotland                               134     CL/Nap-Influences

Australia                               125     CL

N Ireland                                79     CL/Nap-influences/€

 

Spain                                   144     Nap/€

Netherlands                         128     Nap/€

Portugal                               120     Nap/€

Austria                                 105     Nap/€

Italy                                     104     Nap/€

Germany                                94     Nap/€

Belgium                                  91     Nap/€

France                                    85     Nap/€

Finland                                   75     Nap/€

 

Switzerland                             83     Nap

Sweden                                   82     Nap*

Norway                                   66     Nap-influenced

Japan                                      62     Own, on Nap/Prussian Model

 

Russia                                   615     Own, former Socialist (arguably Nap-derived)

Mexico                                  196     Nap/Spain

Brazil                                    193     Nap/Portugal

China                                    118     Own

Turkey                                    91     Nap/(Swiss Civil Law introduced by Atatürk in the Twenties)

India                                       30     CL

 

CL = "Common Law" 

Nap = "Napoleonic Code" / Roman Law (there is a "Prussian Model" of it that was imported by the Japanese), also called "Civil Law" system 

= EuroZone

(sorry for the formatting, I still have some issues) - numbers from BBC (they match what I expected from previous study, rest from memory).

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:57 | 2272621 Gohn Galt
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I thought the US number when calculated to include all FED, State & Local prison population or detained population was more towards 2%.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 13:18 | 2272662 Ghordius
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I think the statistics you are citing takes the number of prisoners divided per adult population. I prefer the classic per total population - otherwise countries like Brazil in the 90's look very strange.

horrendous numbers in any case - but note that there is a twist: building new prisons is politically not a good thing in Europe - nearly nobody votes you back in office if you show/claim that you have increased prison space. this dampens the zeal of judges immensely...

---------

meanwhile a nice young person just wrote me that those statistics of the US were "normal" 20 years ago and exploded due to the War against Drugs and the "three strike rule". I never cease to learn...

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:54 | 2272742 AnAnonymous
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"We, the People". (Collective, not collectivist), derived from Roman Republic principles (hence a Capitol in Washington)

______________________________________________

Yes, it has to be. Would be opening the Pandora's box if one starts to say collectivist.

It has to be different. It has to be something else.

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 17:38 | 2320592 kayl
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The US Criminal courts operate under color of law. Read John Hall's The Practice And Jurisdiction Of The Court Of Admiralty 1809, derived from the King's Bench Edward I.

 

Sun, 03/25/2012 - 02:40 | 2287973 Marc_W
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The U.S. is not a remotely safe country.  If the gang bangers don't get you the cops will.

 

-Largest prison population on Earth.

-Police murdering people at will.

-3 SWAT raids a day, paramilitary forces with automatic weapons that shoot first and ask questions only if they miss.

-Capital punishment.

-President claims to have a right to assassinate anyone he wants at any time without any judicial review or publicly stated reason.

 

Look at deeds, not words.  The U.S. constitution is no longer in effect.  Whatever Europe's faults may be, no European country seems to qualify as a fascist police state, which is what the U.S. is.

Thu, 04/05/2012 - 23:55 | 2321288 Prometheus418
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Absolutely.

My oldest daughter is 10- I teach all of them to say nothing beyond their name and my phone number if they have to speak to the police for any reason.  It's the only way to keep them safe.

Sat, 05/12/2012 - 10:02 | 2419679 ThirdWorldDude
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But the key aspect of the Continental European legal tradition as well, is that it is Napoleonic Code law ... Which means it is the heritage of people in the streets in the French Revolution ... storming the Bastille, as we are ready to do again if necessary.

 

The French have borrowed an existing codex, written around 1200 years before the Revolution, adapting it to the new social circumstances (i.e. abolishing feudalism and introducing la bourgeoisi)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Justinianus#Recovery_in_the_West

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 10:15 | 2272971 cranky-old-geezer
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Your attitude suggests that you're ok living in a place that practices military law/universal corporate law on law abiding citizens. 

My attitude has nothing to do with it.  We're dealing with legal facts here, not attitudes.  When you're stopped / detained / arrested by an officer acting on their own motion, you're in a military marshal law venue where common law doesn't apply.

If you weren't, then the officer would have no authority to stop / detain / arrest you on their own motion, they would have to get a court order.

How you got into that military marshal law venue (likely without even realizing it) is a separate discussion.

Not exactly forward thinking, for a fellow ZHer.

If forward thinking means I have to be an ignoramus like you, then no, I wouldn't be forward thinking.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 16:31 | 2274668 Western
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Wow, do all ZHers scramble in a cold sweat to respond in the most aggressive way possible? You're not a judge, and you don't preside over a court so cut the presumptuous tone.

 

The more you act like it's OK and expected that you become a military law venture when dealing with the police, the more rights are taken away and eroded over time for everyone else including myself. You're already a psyop agent and you don't even know it.

 

I'm calling you out for acting your expected role within the system, as a docile sheep expecting no rights and no sovereignty to themselves even when dealing with law enforcement brutes.

 

Your attitude stinks.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:52 | 2272330 Western
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" 'God's peace to you, Peace Officer. Are you seeking or claiming contract or conflict?'

 

We will all need to know Common Law. I wish there was more about this on ZH. Perhpas in ZH 2.0 we will get more about it. "

 

Indeed, Frank O'Collins brings next level court/legal knowledge to us meagre citizens. The audiocast @talkshoe (link) is an excellent listen for those looking to get a vivid view into how the courts have been taken over by something that isn't Common Law. If you want to bring Common Law back you better start practicing, because it's the only way to prevent it from disappearing.

 


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:18 | 2272354 ClassicalLib17
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Bill Thornton is the voice of common law.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:01 | 2272405 The Navigator
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Tyler, you need to add the +1,000 button so I could award this to Flacon in this instance - LOL too loud, and almost woke the household - good one flacon.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 09:57 | 2272952 flacon
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Thank you! 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 11:28 | 2273316 lostintheflood
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We will all need to know Common Law.

here ya go, courtesy of half past human dot com...

Frank O'Collins is restoring law to humans - complete home study course (free) in common law and how to use it to free yourself and amaze your neighbors...Common Law course for Sovereign Humans -

http://halfpasthuman.com/

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:34 | 2272063 ihedgemyhedges
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From here, after a second or two, you'll see a nifty bar pop up on the bottom of your screen, and an ominous "0" next to users online."

Gee, thanks a lot Sacrilege.  You're talking about ""pop up" and ""bottom"" and ominous ""O""s............after 18 years of marriage, you're now making me realize how much I miss all 3.......................

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:41 | 2272086 Bunker Boy
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That won't not include all my relationships, will it? The twins in Jamaica can't count; they swore me to secrecy.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:53 | 2272131 ihedgemyhedges
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Male twins count double, unless you live in San Francisco.  There, the multiple is still 1x.  Sorry....................

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:55 | 2272136 wisefool
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I did not personally shelter my tact (sic) money with those sirens. If you vote for me, I'll make levenworth,gitmo and fort knox the same thing.

Romney 2015%.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:24 | 2272283 TruthInSunshine
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There should be an Idiocracy Forum, too. That would be the best forum to interact in to get a taste of what more intellectual de-evolution is yet to besiege the U.S.

Only post articles from writers like madhedgefundtrader there, though, as that's the type of bait that will get the Electrolytes crowd all lathered up and kinetically frenzied.

https://ktismatics.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/idio-prez1.png

https://ryedner.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/idiocracy.jpg

http://i2.listal.com/image/1033717/936full-idiocracy-screenshot.jpg

http://whateves.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/idiocracy_money...

 

As far as the never talk to police officers/detectives, it's the no-exception, criminal defense, 101 rule. Don't. Ever. (Yes, that means even if you're an angel and completely innocent of any crime or even sin; speaking can only hurt, not help you, even if you don't want to be detained and/or are threatened with and ultimately taken into custody under the proviso that you're refusing to speak - in fact, do the Chappelle 'Fif' routine if the investigating officers continue to harangue you: Chappelle I plead the Fif).

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:00 | 2272401 dwayne elizando
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And I'll be the president of the idiocracy forum! Dwayne Elizando Mountain Dew Herbert Commacho!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:04 | 2272409 The Navigator
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Another instance where the +1,000 button is needed - Idiocracy, what a great movie and we are there now. Thanks for the laughs Dwyane.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:19 | 2272578 LongSoupLine
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Brawndo...it's got electrolytes.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:32 | 2272588 akak
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When I was around four or five years old, I used to look just like the kid who was on the Mr. Bubble box --- as EVERYONE liked to remind me!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 11:37 | 2273372 lostintheflood
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As far as the never talk to police officers/detectives, it's the no-exception, criminal defense, 101 rule. Don't. Ever.

we learned this lesson the hard way back in the early '90's...who knew that talking to a cop could be such a huge mistake...listen to this advice people, do NOT talk to cops!!!

Wed, 03/28/2012 - 15:15 | 2298223 Stoploss
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BINGO.

The only way they can build any case is to bully the sheep into talking their own selves into some kind of "charge".

In order to facilitate that, the result is what we have right now, which is a severe, abrupt tightening of rules to trap more and more people, by increasing the frequency of new rules, while at the same time stifling any media reporting regarding any rules, much less any new ones.

Don't forget, loose lips sink ships, and will land your ass in jail in a heartbeat.

FACISM is alive and well in the US.

Like ALL FADs, it won't last long.

Smitty tells you that...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:54 | 2272134 SHEEPFUKKER
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Epic....turn ZH into an internet dating site. 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:13 | 2272180 i-dog
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My very first thought, too. FFS!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:45 | 2272253 Cathartes Aura
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erm, ZH is heavily skewed male, somehow doubtful that would work. . .

then again. . .

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:30 | 2272587 Council of Econ...
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Not only that but males over 65 according to alexa.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:02 | 2272443 NoClueSneaker
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Fundamentals do not count. ZH already worth more then 3/4 of the media shit out there.

Thing I miss would be kinda musical WB7, that's all ...

 

If shitty FakeBook 50 Bn, k, ZH 10 Tr. at least ( in BBB backed $$$ ).

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:24 | 2272024 ACP
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At first glace, I thought it said the Zero Hedge Cat. That would've been weird.

Hey is that SNORG tees chick a member? That's one desireable user relationship.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 09:47 | 2272926 LFMayor
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Word.  Sign me the fuck up!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:29 | 2272042 Id fight Gandhi
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Good stuff

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:05 | 2272566 Belarusian Bull
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I am really looking forward to ZeroHedge Financial MMORPG! It has to be with exteam PvP.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:50 | 2272124 skepticCarl
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RSS= Really Stupid Shit.  The aggregator for RSS is the American Standard flush toilet.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:45 | 2272321 TruthInSunshine
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Global Hunter:

 

The new book that's surging is Why Nations Fail;

  --co-written by --

Daron Acemoglu, a fairly credible M.I.T. economics professor, who is essentially stating outright that the U.S. Economy is severely bad, getting worse, and headed straight towards collapse. It would appear that he is insinuating that Deep Capture's opening of a fatal wound in the fundamental economic structure of the U.S. is prompting the Federal Reserve to accelerate its central mission of transferring the remaining value of the holdings of the 99.9x% to the 0.01% on an expedited basis.

It would appear that he has no desire to be part of the Confidence Fairy club.

It’s the Economy: Why Some Countries Go Bust

"By his own admission, Daron Acemoglu is a slightly pudgy and fairly nerdy guy with an unpronounceable last name. But when I mentioned that I was interviewing him to two econ buffs, they each gasped and said, “I love Daron Acemoglu,” as if I were talking about Keith Richards. The Turkish M.I.T. professor — who, right now, is about as hot as economists get — acquired his renown for serious advances in answering the single most important question in his profession, the same one that compelled Adam Smith to write “The Wealth of Nations”: why are some countries rich while others are poor?

Acemoglu, told me that financial firms have so thoroughly co-opted the political proc­ess that the American economy has become fundamentally unsound. “It’s bad and getting worse,” he told me. Barring some major shift in our political system, he suggested, the United States could be on its way to serious economic failure.

Or, stated alternatively, it would appear that he, like a select few others, believes that TPTB have lost control of the propaganda war, as the masses realize a large gap between what they're being told by the media and government officials, lose confidence in the very structure and foundation of the system, and that given this awakening taking place, TPTB that rely on the Fed Reserve as their wealth transfer mechanism can no longer afford to try to slowly simmer the frogs, and a quick boil it will have to be (in order to plunder while the plundering is good).

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:12 | 2272454 AnAnonymous
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The new book that's surging is Why Nations Fail;

________________________________________________

And why this will make my personal economy better (subtitle)

Nothing more than a US citizen writer who wants to milk the situation to his own profits (he would not be a US citizen otherwise)

No thoughts, just empty rhetorics to appeal to US citizen factions, if possible, create controversy, so that the haters and the lovers buy the book and cash-ing.

Have US citizenism allowed one thinker to raise? One person with a solid pattern of thinking? Not a writer who aim at creating controversy, appeal etc...

Have US citizens just one name?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:53 | 2272481 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous asked:

Have US citizens just one name?

In another comment thread I inquired about your intersting theory. Thank you for your response. It was a good effort in trying to explain your socio-economic theory of historical propagandized economic resource extractionary depletionism as an ideology of global domination which you call US citizenism.

However, I think you will need to make some refinements to it because, as it stands, some inconsistencies exist, and the rest of it is a bit vague and requires further expostulation on your part lest the ambiguities lead to misconstrued interpretations on the part of the reader.

US citizen nature is eternal. This is what it is stated.

Never written that US citizenism is eternal.

OK, fine so far.

It means that despite all signs showing that US citizenism has exhausted the environmental resources to sustain and expand itself, the eternal nature of US citizens will lead to deny all these changes.

I believe you are correct in the general case. However, your theory does not appear to take into account any US of A citizens who recognize the resource depletion and the impossibility of continued growth and expansion. For instance, I am a US of A citizen who recognizes the environmental and resource depletion and I believe that growth and expansion is no longer possible. Is it possible that I am a US of A citizen that has somehow escaped the controlled world view of US citizenism? I do not know how this fits in with your theory, but for now will bear with it until you offer explanation because it might be US citizenism which is keeping me from understanding this point.

Never read here and there that the overpopulation issue was too many US citizens, not enough Indians? Where is the Indian land to sponsor the freedom, justice, truth US citizen project? Looks like if that findind of land was a one shot opportunity huh?

I think I might understand what you are saying here. My interpretation is that perpetual growth and expansion cannot exist on a planet with finite resources. The US expanded when it had unconquered land next to its conquered land, but now lacks the land for expansion. Furthermore, any unconquered land on other parts of the planet are already facing resource depletion, so that well has run dry.

Have you considered the parallels with European style fractional reserve central banking? This fractional reserve banking which began in Europe before 1776, July, 4th, gained in power and influence as the European explorers found new lands to invade and then colonize. As European colonization and resource extraction blobbed up, European fractional reserve central banking blobbed up to match. Likewise, after 1776, July, 4th, European fractional reserve central banking came in to power in US of A with Alexander Hamilton and his European fractional reserve central banking cronies.

As many observers can see, European fractional reserve central bankism is in decline because there are no remaining undiscovered lands to conquer and the resources of the remaining lands are entering depletion, which means no new growth and expansion. Without the oxygen of growth and expansion, European fractional reserve central bankism suffocates. Does your theory of US citizenism build upon the theory of European fractional reserve central bankism, or is it something altogether different?

It is a major dimension to underline because it leads US citizens to deny the most obvious. In the doing, they will push under the train many, many people in a desesperate attempt to maintain US citizenism while the conditions to maintain it are fading away.

I can see the train pushing under now in progress. I do not deny this, it is obvious to me, and yet I am a US of A citizen. Does this mean that US citizenism does not affect all US of A citizens, or am I making a misinterpretation because of US citizenism? If a misinterpretation, what is causing me not to deny the most obvious? Please explain further to address this point.

There are some jolly things coming down the road.

This is vague and deserves a better explanation.

The eternal nature of US citizens guarantees they wont adjust, trying to reboot US citizenism on a local scale.

I agree that most US citizens won't adjust. Is it possible that some US of A citizens are not mind controlled by US citizenism and can make a better attempt to adjust? Or is this just another deceptive illusion of US citizenism?

And this is going to deliver some very nice things here. Very nice.

Please give further explanation because this is also vague. What nice things are going to be delivered? When you say nice things will be delivered "here", what place do you mean by "here"? Please be specific so that I can better understand without misinterpretation.

So good effort in trying to discuss US citizenism from within, without the resort of an imagined exterior, but failure in the end.

I do not understand your use of failure in the end. Do you mean US citizenism will fail in the end? If so, I do not deny that. Or do you mean my effort to discuss US citizenism is a failed effort in the end? If so, is it because some concepts of your theory of US citizenism are not clearly understood by me? If I am seeking explanation, how is that a failure? Thank you for your response.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:52 | 2272734 AnAnonymous
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What refinement?

Useless.

Mere statements of power. That is what US citizen do. Facts are only facts when they are acknowledged by US citizens.
Here's the point:

US citizenism is different from US citizeniship. One can hold US citizenship while not being a proponent of US citizen.

In both cases, the name is US citizen.

Is it confusing? Of course it is. One point of US citizenism is dilution of responsibility. US citizens (the proponents of US citizenism) will always try to expand the base, the group they hide behind in order to dilute their responsibility.

That is why they bomb countries on the behalf of humanity (largest group possible) instead of on the behalf of US of A, UK, France...

The bulk of colonization was made by US citizenism.

The nineteenth century is the colonization century.

Taking the 13 colonies and to be compared with US of A total land.

Kicking the can to invoke pre US citizenism people.

Nice things? Really? It has to be spelt out?

One can not tell that the previous waves of US citizen settlers went soft on the locals.

Now things are different. US citizenism has acquired a global dimension and has eaten the rest of the world's resources.

Adding to that, US citizens use certain places as dumps for toxic and radioactive waves. Meaning the living space is being shrunk and shrunk.

What is going to happen when US citizens are going to settle in these places to bring the light of US citizenism?

It is a failure because in the other post, you stated that eternal nature of US citizen means US citizenism is eternal and here it is also a failure because you confuse US citizenism ('Americanism') with US citizenship.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:33 | 2273640 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

US citizenism is different from US citizeniship. One can hold US citizenship while not being a proponent of US citizen.

In both cases, the name is US citizen.

Yes, of course, and I understand what you are saying in explaining this. Your criticisms are not directed at all US of A citizens. Your criticisms are directed at those who are proponents of the historical propagandized economic resource extractionary depletionism as an ideology of global domination, which you refer to as US citizenism. This US citizenism group includes most, but not all, of US of A citizens, and it includes citizens of other countries when they are proponents of US citizenism. This is my understanding, but please correct me if I am mistaken.

Is it confusing? Of course it is.

With all respect, I would like to offer a suggestion for you to consider. As you have said, in both cases, the name is US citizen. Usually when you comment it is clear what you are saying is about US citizenism, that meaning proponents of the historical propagandized economic resource extractionary depletionism as an ideology of global domination, whether the proponents are citizens of US of A or other countries. Sometimes, though, I do not have a clear understanding by the words you are using if you are meaning US of A citizens who are proponents of US citizenism or if you are meaning US of A citizens who are not proponents of US citizenism.

It would help me conceptually to understand better what you are saying in such instances of ambiguity if you could, when speaking of the latter group, refer to them as non-US citizenism US of A citizens or a similar description of your choice. Sometimes I agree with what you are saying and sometimes I disagree, which is to be expected when people are discussing ideas. My suggestion is only for the purpose of trying to have better agreement or disagreement based on ideas without having disagreement based on misunderstanding or misinterpretation. Thank you for considering this.

One point of US citizenism is dilution of responsibility. US citizens (the proponents of US citizenism) will always try to expand the base, the group they hide behind in order to dilute their responsibility.

That is why they bomb countries on the behalf of humanity (largest group possible) instead of on the behalf of US of A, UK, France...

I think this is a very important point and so yes, I am in total agreement with you here. You see this when the proponents of US citizenism US of A citizens make claims like "we should attack some country" or "we are going to do something" when the person making the claim is not the one actually doing the attacking or bombing or other thing. Such a person exhibits US citizenism by attaching himself to some corrupted sense of glory while never being exposed to any risk.

It is also correct that US citizenism can be seen when doing bombing on behalf of humanity. It is all propaganda, but hey, those who oppose the bombing must be opposed to humanity by way of US citizenism thinking.

The bulk of colonization was made by US citizenism.

The nineteenth century is the colonization century.

This is where I have a disagreement with you. Spain, Portugal, Holland, France, UK, and other European nations were heavily colonizing North America, South America, Africa, Asia, and South Pacific all during sixteenth, seventeenth, and eighteenth centuries. They were all blobbing up their empires, and their central banks blobbed up with them. Some of this happened in the nineteenth century and involved US citizenism, but most of this happened before 1776, July, 4th.

This is why I suggested that US citizenism may have gotten its start in European empire blobbing up and European fractional reserve central bankism. I do not think this idea is kicking the can to invoke pre US citizenism people, because so much of this took place before 1776, July, 4th, and the start of US citizenism.

Now things are different. US citizenism has acquired a global dimension and has eaten the rest of the world's resources.

Adding to that, US citizens use certain places as dumps for toxic and radioactive waves. Meaning the living space is being shrunk and shrunk.

Yes, again, here I am in agreement with you.

What is going to happen when US citizens are going to settle in these places to bring the light of US citizenism?

This is easy to understand for those who do not deny what they see. It will end badly and the light of US citizenism will be extinguished.

It is a failure because in the other post, you stated that eternal nature of US citizen means US citizenism is eternal and here it is also a failure because you confuse US citizenism ('Americanism') with US citizenship.

This is why I think it would be helpful if you could be more explicit when discussing both US citizenism and US citizenship in the same commentary. Sometimes, yes, we will agree. When we disagree, I want it to be over honest difference of opinion and not disagreement based on misunderstanding. Disagreement based on misunderstanding has resulted in too many wars and too much suffering of innocent people around the world.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 20:39 | 2275386 Cathartes Aura
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thank you both for this exchange, it's one of the reasons I am so addicted to reading ZH.

I seriously hope these new chat room adds don't dis-appear these kinds of posts into private exchanges, there's enough segregating of ideas in the new-blog-o-sphere as it is, ZH is one of the few places we can mix freely and *cough* fight it out. . .

exchange of ideas, and seeking clarity in words used - how else will we move forward in these times?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:51 | 2272388 nakedshort
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Wheres milliondollar bonus troll lately , that guy cracks me up 

 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:06 | 2271944 Westcoastliberal
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Cool! Thanks, Tyler as always.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:29 | 2272041 Floordawg
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Tmosley and Trav777... new chat BFF's!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:34 | 2272064 A Nanny Moose
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Oh to be a fly on that chat room wall. Ain't techonolgy great?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:21 | 2272210 weyes1
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The tolling of the Division Bell has begun.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:37 | 2272237 tmosley
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lol

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:06 | 2271945 jomama
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2. User Relationships; and

i'd say it's already one, big-ish, happy family, mirite?!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:06 | 2271947 infiniti
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Any gorgeous, friendly women on here?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:34 | 2272059 Unprepared
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I'm ready to change my name to Kristin Kreuk, and send you some sweet nasty words in exchange for the shiny stuff.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:38 | 2272372 StychoKiller
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Kiss my splintery, wooden @ss!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:05 | 2272447 NoClueSneaker
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Yupp, Hammy. Penetrate :-P

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:06 | 2271948 Vic Vinegar
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baby_BLYTHE: you + me = user relationship.  ASAP

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:14 | 2273562 CryingBear
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is group chat going to be available?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:09 | 2271952 hotkarlandthecl...
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Facebook for goldbugs?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:02 | 2272338 Seer
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Multiple meaning of "gold mining!"

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:09 | 2271955 Yen Cross
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 Ghost Pilot (opts out)?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:09 | 2271956 tickhound
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Uh oh bitchez this is gettin' scary sorta.

 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:11 | 2271967 NuckingFuts
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Yep.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:36 | 2272028 JW n FL
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Your ISP is already logged.. any conversations you have or have had in the past have been scrubbed.. that is of course depending on your potential threat level.. if you are a fucking moron.. then no need to worry.. but if you are smart and people like you.. and of course add to that thought.. that you are NOT! on page with the greatest ongoing lie in human history.. then you could be perceived as a Threat?? Against the Homeland! Someone call security! Never mind they are already here, I mean there.. with you, watching over your shoulder. (or you are more accurately mirrored, you computer.. not you physically.)

 

who knows? heart attacks happen for 40 year olds all the time now.. poor preventive medicine.. the President has tried to warn all of you.

 

Big things.. have small beginnings.

 

The Easiest Felony Court Case to prove Against ANYONE! Is Conspiracy.. which involves you have a conversation and the means with which to carry out any part of that conversation.. and individual Conversation can be taken out of context.. and the supporting conversation around which your (1) one sarcastic mention of “Killing them ALL! and let God sort them out” can be used against You as a Standalone Comment. The judge has only but to suppress the ongoing conversation, which happens and will be happening more and more often.. given the fact that serious crime numbers keep falling and the need to fill up those Billions of dollars worth of new Prisons!

 

For any of you that doubt what I say.. Google is your friend!

 

To convict of a conspiracy, the jury does not have to conclude that an explicit agreement was entered. They just have to conclude that an understanding was reached among various people to commit the crime. In Federal court, if one person is accused of committing a crime and another person is accused of committing the same crime then conspiracy charges are likely to be given to both people. Federal prosecutors generally like conspiracy charges because it allows them some liberties from evidentiary restrictions. Federal prosecutors also appreciate when one accused enters into a plea bargain admitting that the conspiracy existed and then agrees to testify against his or her codefendant.”

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:44 | 2272102 Uber Vandal
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With that in mind, watching this video should help get the point across as to why one should always choose "The right to keep silent".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:09 | 2272169 XitSam
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+1 zillion. This guy is great! The cop is good too, listen to them both. It could keep you out of jail even if you're innocent!

Another great video is 10 Rules for Dealing With the Police from Flex Your Rights. At one time it could be watched for free on the internet, maybe it still exists.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:35 | 2272312 Pool Shark
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"The Easiest Felony Court Case to prove Against ANYONE! Is Conspiracy.. which involves you have a conversation and the means with which to carry out any part of that conversation."

Uh, no.

Actually, conspiracy requires there be an overt act in support of the conspiracy, and it must be corroborated by an independent source/witness (a co-conspirator doesn't count).

In reality, conspiracy is rarely charged in (California) state criminal proceedings due to being difficult to prove, and juries recognize that people talk sh** all the time.

The more you know...

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:15 | 2272349 TruthInSunshine
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That requisite element you're referring to for successful prosecution of a 'conspiracy' type alleged crime is what's referred to as the "significant step" or "substantial step" rule.

IOW - Did the party charged with a conspiracy offense "take a substantial step that clearly indicated intent to commit the crime?"

It's important to recognize that for purposes of federal law, different federal circuits have different views on what is required for a substantial step. For example, in the Cruz-Jiminez case the Third Circuit pointed out that some circuits require that the “substantial step” be an unequivocal act that strongly corroborates the criminal intent, yet other circuits require only a substantial step that merely corroborates criminal intent but need not be unequivocal. See Cruz-Jiminez at 102 and United States v. Still, 850 F.2d 607 (9th Cir. 1988); accord United States v. Pennell, 737 F.2d 521 (6th Cir. 1984).


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:12 | 2272453 NoClueSneaker
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T was 10 yrs. ago since the happy bride Dickinna Cheney almost aborted the monster baby called  Dep. Of Homeland Security.

Used a signature for months: Semtex, C4, Allah, Suitcase, NSA perverts eat it all.

Sioncerely yours,

Bin Halliburton.

_______________________

In a meanwhile, the whole fuckin' world got retarded, so who cares.

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:03 | 2272630 Element
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Someone call security! Never mind they are already here, I mean there.. with you, watching over your shoulder. (or you are more accurately mirrored, you computer.. not you physically.)

 

And is this really so different to the 1984 real-time watching scenario/potential?

The real difference is that in 1984 they couldn't access Winston's inner thoughts.

But with the internet they often can.

 

Fear not.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:57 | 2272753 msamour
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Thank the Gods I don't live in the U.S.!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:24 | 2272017 Unprepared
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I say, this is a set up to make it easier for Utah's archiving.

I can't wait for the ZeroFace HedgeBook.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:13 | 2272347 putaipan
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is that the sound of one of my hands shorting before i was born?

(.... oh and by the way- i think maybe that is being built for "preepmtive

baptising".... you know after they've collected everyone's dna they can

do every possible combination and baptise the as yet unborn... just a

thought)  got cult?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:10 | 2271958 ekm
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Finally. The day traders can go there and as I have said before, they could find there a place to practice group mastrubation incessantly.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:12 | 2271968 Yen Cross
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That ranks in the top3 Comments you have made!  Nice work!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:16 | 2271971 ekm
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I learned from the best :)

 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:12 | 2271969 Vagabond
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Is this one of those change is uncomfortable situations, or is another social network terribly disappointing?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:13 | 2271973 hognutz
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Killer shit dudes!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:14 | 2271974 Mr. Fix
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Sounds like more fun!

Thanks!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:14 | 2271976 dark pools of soros
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Stalking Bitchez!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:45 | 2272104 Goldilocks
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I Dream Of Jeannie - Theme Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwpH_IYg0N8 (0:48)

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:36 | 2272427 slewie the pi-rat
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"yes, master"  the slot machine is pretty weird, i'll tell ya, goldi!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:19 | 2271981 Moneyswirth
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In order to make our reader's experience more enjoyable, we're excited to offer three new features: 

Wonderful Tyler, you've done gone and went all Facebooky on us.

Lemme guess...IPO coming soon?  Ticker: ZHDG ?  

 


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:25 | 2272027 kito
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Facebook......here?.......really????????......that's like linking the playboy website on a gay male chat room..........

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:30 | 2272045 Tyler Durden
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No. Not "facebook..... here." Chatrooms.

Unlike NINJA loans from 2005, no evil bankers are twisting your arm to participate, and nobody is demanding you hand over your driver's license and put in your credit card number.

Those who want to use the chat will use it. Those who don't, can proceed along their merry way and shut the hell up.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:35 | 2272061 Yen Cross
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 Confused? We can still imbibe when you ( Tylers) post, and the testerone room is an option?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 06:34 | 2272531 trebuchet
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A useful feature would be to be able to track replies to comments - either via the user profile (list of replies in threads) or by article

 

Uunnmmm  If it exists, someone pls explain how

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:36 | 2272688 New World Chaos
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This would also cut down on bandwidth- less checking.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:36 | 2272071 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Good God where is VeloBabe?  That would be a chat and a half.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:24 | 2272213 ZeroSpread
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Wait! Chatting with the infamous MDB or even the invincible Robotrader??  Please save the log/transcript for Friday humor!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:45 | 2272431 saulysw
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I don't kno

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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:37 | 2272075 kito
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"like".................

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:12 | 2272178 XitSam
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Oh boy. Trav and tmosley can go at it in real time. I don't know whether to be excited or horrified.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:10 | 2272524 akak
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Personally, I simply can't wait to find out just how many times AnAnusMouse can use the phrase "US Citizenism" in one minute of chatting.  I bet that one minute will seem .... almost eternal.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:59 | 2272272 Barometer
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In the face!!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:47 | 2272324 Pool Shark
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"No. Not "facebook..... here." Chatrooms."

So, when does the "Champagne Room" open?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLeUTpwFjI

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:56 | 2272440 The Navigator
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Tyler you rock, like Elvis and the Beatles - some will try to imitate but the originals live on.

MSM and print is dead and 6 feet under - ZH & Drudge are the 2 sites I start each morning with and each evening I end with.

ZH = no BS. Thanks for this and the new 2.0.

Long live the king, CD, & WB7 - party on.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 06:52 | 2272548 Global Hunter
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to be clear I was taking a dig at my own technological ignorance, 6:30 am coffee is made and I'm on ZH as I am almost every morning...nuff said.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 09:01 | 2272766 msamour
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Awesome, Thanks a million Tyler. English is not my first language, and evenI, got that you can "activate" the chat function. It should be obvious to people here that means you don't have to use it. Great work on making this website a daily visit for me. Thanks to you are your team tyler.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 10:34 | 2273074 In Fed We Trust
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No. Not "facebook..... here." Chatrooms.

Unlike NINJA loans from 2005, no evil bankers are twisting your arm to participate, and nobody is demanding you hand over your driver's license and put in your credit card number.

Those who want to use the chat will use it. Those who don't, can proceed along their merry way and shut the hell up.

No evil bankers here. Just their banning advertising on both sides of the site.  They must get "zero" leads from this site, seeing how everyone is so educated as to the ways of a banker. 

DOes anyone remember this piece?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/here-comes-fiattackwatch-bernanke-goes-watergate-prepares-eavesdrop-everything-mentioning-fed

Nothing to see here, except Tyler pushing a book on behalf of who?

How can we be sure our converstationn our safe.  How can we be sure that Tyler isn't what Alex Jones is turning out to be???

 

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 10:35 | 2273080 In Fed We Trust
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Year Tyler,

I think this annoucement alone has dropped the value of Facebook by 100 million easy.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 11:09 | 2273182 i-dog
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"How can we be sure our converstationn our safe."

You can't. They're not! Assume that anything you type on the net--including private emails to your mommy--have been saved by the Criminal Occupation Government in DC for later use.

"How can we be sure that Tyler isn't what Alex Jones is turning out to be???"

I assume that he is, in the absence of solid evidence to the contrary. Many of us have known of AJ's connections to the Luciferians for quite some time, only because he is more "out there" (and not over-bright) and therefore easier to analyse.

HOWEVER, you should assume that anyone posting on this site, including the multiple Tylers, has an agenda and you should analyse their words accordingly, rather than relying on any one of their opinions to become your own.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 11:34 | 2273360 GoinFawr
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Making those assumptions doesn't mean that the Tylers aren't obligated to answer direct questions about them.

You seem to enjoy defending their silence regularly, vested interests?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:18 | 2273574 i-dog
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"vested interests?"

Yeah ... a vested interest in teaching morons to be responsible for themselves rather than claiming fictitious "rights"! If Tyler doesn't respond, then simply refuse to transact business with him ... ie. don't participate on his site and cancel your account.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:45 | 2273655 GoinFawr
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"Yeah....so more importantly,

What is your PRIVACY POLICY?  How long are comments retained?  Are comments retained with identifying criteria?  Has ZH ever released or sold any comment data?  How secure are your servers?

Get my point??  Those questions need to be answered!"

_________________________________________

"Yeah ... a vested interest in teaching morons to be responsible for themselves rather than claiming fictitious "rights"! "

ahh that ol' chestnut, the 'you're a muppet' defense. You sound an awful lot like the dupes defending GS; coincidence?

Hey, I have the tiniest of vested interests myself: you think these unplagarized avatars create themeselves?

The only 'right' I am claiming is the 'right' to have a set of perfectly valid and relevant questions clearly answered, questions any member/user of ZH is completely justified in asking again and again and again and again, if necessary.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 12:57 | 2273751 i-dog
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"the 'right' to have a set of perfectly valid and relevant questions clearly answered."

And if they're not? Are you planning to lodge a complaint with the Human Rights Court in The Hague??

LOL. Petulant children!!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 13:21 | 2273784 GoinFawr
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"Yeah....so more importantly,

What is your PRIVACY POLICY? How long are comments retained? Are comments retained with identifying criteria? Has ZH ever released or sold any comment data? How secure are your servers?

Get my point?? Those questions need to be answered!"

_____________________________________________

Ahhhnd your useful idiot responses, which I agree 100% you have the 'right' to make, tacitly underscore my point: many thanks indeud.

 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:48 | 2272117 Vic Vinegar
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Facebook......here?.......really????????......that's like linking the playboy website on a gay male chat room..........

A Playmate (I forget her name but she was hot and had nice cans) told a story on Stern about how Hef needed to put on gay porn before he had sex with chicks. 

Seems like the chat feature is a great idea.  So many comments here are off-topic yet are compelling enough to reply to.  Chat is a better place to take discussions that don't pertain to the article posted.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:16 | 2272192 ihedgemyhedges
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I think her name was Heather...................or Celeste.................or Desiree....................or something like that.

And really, a Playmate was hot and had nice cans?!?  OH YEAH, NOW I REMEMBER!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:27 | 2272220 Vic Vinegar
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Back-of-the-napkin ranking of my top 5 Playmates of the last decade:

5. Jordan Monroe

4. Destiny Davis

3. Hiromi Oshima

2. Pennelope Jimenez

1. Olivia Page

You proved my point, spacemonkey!  I sure as shit would love to know who GoingFawr's favorite Playmate is, but discussing such probably doesn't have anything to do with one of Tyler's articles on the LTRO.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:31 | 2272228 ihedgemyhedges
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RE: #3.  Isn't that where we dropped an H bomb?????????????  There and Nagasaki????

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:54 | 2272259 Vic Vinegar
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The big controversy with Hiromi is whether or not her breasts are real.  You be the judge:

http://www.hiromioshima.com/

I suppose this is not unlike the debates some here like to have as to what constitues real money or not.  All I know is her tits are fantastic and we are waking up tomorrow to the FRN ruling again.

Back to my point, no one else here should be bothered with our discussion.  You and me should be hashing this out in the chat feature.  Seems like we should use the comments section of an article to actually comment on the article.   

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:09 | 2272281 I_Am_
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VV

:-) Thanks the link, made my day.....well!! :-)

Agree this is chatroom stuff.

Looks more Chinese than Japanese but who cares.....

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:19 | 2272355 putaipan
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that hot little jazz pianist? naked? cooool.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:48 | 2272383 Vic Vinegar
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No one said anything about jazz pianists.  You can't be my ZH friend.  Sorry.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:20 | 2272459 AnAnonymous
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5. Jordan Monroe

4. Destiny Davis

3. Hiromi Oshima

2. Pennelope Jimenez

1. Olivia Page
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That is an outstanding display of US citizen culture.

Top 5 playmates of the last decade, nothing less.

Impressive.

A small step for malekind, a giant leap for humanity.

What an advancement for human beings!

What a job! Guzzling that much resources to end with that result.

Dumbfounded.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 05:40 | 2272505 Jendrzejczyk
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Should we powderize the last black rhino penis and make tea out of it in hopes of getting a hardon?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 07:50 | 2272535 akak
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Does going from two inches to three inches constitute a "hard on"?

(Well, SOMETHING seems to work over there, or they wouldn't have been breeding like rabbits for the last two thousand years!)

Anyway, I lean more towards the deep-fried puppies, endangered shark fin soup, bear gall bladder fricasse, General Tsang's whooping crane, Szechuan monkey brains (and make sure to add enough cashews this time, you cheap chink bastards!), powdered dragon bones and wolf nipple chips --- YUM!

And after a feast like that ... oh shit ... HERE IT COMES!

Fortunately, I spy a convenient patch of roadside.
"Toilet paper", you say?  That's just for round-eyed devils!

(It's OK, I can always blob-up afterward.  Eternally, in fact.
It's my nature!)

Chinese Citizen Coconutism: Teaching matrix algebra to enhusked palm fruits since 243 BC.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 09:54 | 2272943 LFMayor
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Don't forget a big wad of the sticky black magik smoke!  Them Chinamen go apeshit over that there opium.  Hell, they'd tie grandma's ankles to her neck for you just for a couple of puffs.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:58 | 2272270 Lux Fiat
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ZERO ?  'cause on a long enough timeline, the survival rate for every company drops to....

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:50 | 2272385 Vic Vinegar
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See above.  Rather than spend a Tuesday night complaining about your irrelevance, I'll just ignore you.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:31 | 2272680 Lux Fiat
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Mine was a reply to Moneysworth.  See above the above, if you can.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:15 | 2271982 Ceteris paribus
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So what do we have to do ?

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:51 | 2272391 Vic Vinegar
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I so wanna be slewie's chat partner but he's too fuking cool.  It's probably not unlike rolling up and hitting on Heidi Klum.

As for you, you are a hideous fat chick.  Get the fuck out of my face and go slam a few more twinkies, loser.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:57 | 2272399 Vic Vinegar
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I'm gonna go ahead and junk myself in the name of this being too low-brow, almost Yahoo-ish in terms of the comment.

But the emotion stands - I love the idea of the comments section getting back to commenting on the articles and people with ideas having a chance to discuss them elsewhere.  Good luck, spacemonkeys!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:15 | 2271983 The Big Ching-aso
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Anyone that wants to 'chat' with me better have some magnificent hooters.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 02:47 | 2272380 StychoKiller
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