Newspaper Chaired By Private Equity Head Shockingly Endorses Mitt Romney For President; Ron Paul On Jay Leno

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A few hours ago the Des Moines Register threw its support behind the Bain Capital founder, and the man now known to have actively destroyed any trace of his public "service" before his 2007 Massachusettes office handover (with a pending response to a Reuters FOIA, which will disclose just what it was that Romney was so tenuously shredding). Because according to the Iowan newspaper, Mitt Romney "is the best to lead" America, although into what, is not quite clear - perhaps the biggest Fed funded LBO (with a Bain Capital $1 mezz piece) of all time, that of America? We don't know. And neither does the Register's editorial board. What they do know are hollow adjectives, such as "sobriety", "wisdom" and "judgment" which somehow are applicable to Romney, if not so much "betting" and "shredding." Those looking for a late night laugh can read the OpEd below (link to tomorrow's front page here). And ironically, while likely set to provide a very short-term boost to Romney's chances, it is the baseless ongoing accusations against Ron Paul that will likely solidify the groundswell behind the Texan, with such desperate platitudes as "Ron Paul's libertarian ideology would lead to economic chaos and isolationism, neither of which this nation can afford." Because what America certainly needs is more of that old ideology of doing everything just the same and hoping for the best, because if there is anything Romney's would be predecessors have taught us is that hope apparently is a credible strategy. But perhaps most relevant is the reminder that the Des Moines Register is a Gannett company whose Chairman just happens to be one Marjorie Magner, whose bio reads

Ms. Magner, 61, is Managing Partner of Brysam Global Partners, a private
equity firm investing in financial services firms with a focus on consumer opportunities in emerging markets founded in January 2007.
She was Chairman and CEO of Citigroup's Global Consumer Group from 2003 to 2005. She served in various roles at Citigroup, and a predecessor company, CitiFinancial (previously Commercial Credit), since 1987. Ms. Magner currently serves as a director of Accenture Ltd. and Ally Financial Inc. and served as a director of The Charles Schwab Corporation from February 2006 to May 2008. Ms. Magner has broad business experience and financial expertise from the various senior management roles she held with Citigroup.

We will let readers find the other curious Gannett board members who just may have some conflicts of interest with a Ron Paul presidency.

Yet while this Paul-bashing circus was happening, Ron Paul made an appearance on Leno, further solidifying his mainstream image (ironically a process started by Jon Stewart). The full inteview is below.

But first, the propaganda scribbles from deep in the bowels of Iowa, which could have been Xeroxed from circa 1965 Stalingrad.



Sobriety, wisdom and judgment.


Those are qualities Mitt Romney said he looks for in a leader. Those are qualities Romney himself has demonstrated in his career in business, public service and government. Those qualities help the former Massachusetts governor stand out as the most qualified Republican candidate competing in the Iowa caucuses.


Sobriety: While other candidates have pandered to extremes with attacks on the courts and sermons on Christian values, Romney has pointedly refrained from reckless rhetoric and moralizing. He may be accused of being too cautious, but choosing words carefully is a skill essential for anyone who could be sitting in the White House and reacting to world events.


Wisdom: Romney obviously is very smart. He graduated as valedictorian at Brigham Young University and finished in the top 5 percent in his MBA class at Harvard, where he also earned a law degree. Romney also exhibits the wisdom of a man who listened and learned from his father and his mother, from his church and from his own trials and errors in life. He does not lack self confidence, but he is not afraid to admit when he has been wrong.


Judgment: Romney disagrees with Democrats on most issues, but he offers smart and well-reasoned alternatives rather than simply proposing to swing a wrecking ball in Washington. He is a serious student of public policy who examines the data before making a decision. His detailed policy paper on the economy contains 87 pages of carefully crafted positions on taxes, energy, trade and regulatory policy, complete with 127 footnotes.


Mitt Romney is making his second bid for Iowans’ support after an unsuccessful run in 2008. We did not endorse him then, but this is a different field, and he has matured as a candidate. Rebuilding the economy is the nation’s top priority, and Romney makes the best case among the Republicans that he could do that.


He stands out in the current field of Republican candidates. He has solid credentials in a career that includes running and starting successful businesses, turning around the 2002 Winter Olympics and working with both political parties as Massachusetts governor to pass important initiatives. He stands out especially among candidates now in the top tier: Newt Gingrich is an undisciplined partisan who would alienate, not unite, if he reverts to mean-spirited attacks on display as House speaker. Ron Paul’s libertarian ideology would lead to economic chaos and isolationism, neither of which this nation can afford.


Romney is accused of being a “flip-flopper.” He has evolved from one-time independent to moderate Republican in liberal Massachusetts to proud conservative today. He does not deny changing his position on some issues, but he will say he has made mistakes and has learned from them. Though Romney has tended to adapt some positions to different times and places, he is hardly unique. It should be possible for a politician to say, “I was wrong, and I have changed my mind.”


But more subtle distinctions apply to Romney on some major issues where he has been accused of flipping or flopping. He helped create health-care reform in Massachusetts that is strikingly similar to the much-derided “Obamacare,” for example. Yet Romney argues reasonably, though not entirely persuasively, that while all states should be free to experiment with their own reforms, it is wrong for the federal government to force a one-size-fits-all plan on the entire nation.


Romney’s tendency to carefully pick his way through the political minefields is illustrated by his carefully nuanced position on abortion over the years. He was quoted in 1994 as defending a woman’s right to choose abortion. When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney said he was personally pro-life but vowed he would not restrict or promote access to abortion. Yet he vetoed legislation legalizing the so-called morning-after pill because he saw it as easing access to abortion.


Voters will have to decide for themselves whether such subtly nuanced statements express Romney’s true beliefs or if he’s trying to have it both ways. Romney at least appreciates both sides of hard questions. “Many women considering abortions face terrible pressures, hurts, and fears; we should come to their aid with all the resourcefulness and empathy we can offer,” he wrote in a Boston Globe essay in 2005. “At the same time, the starting point should be the innocence and vulnerability of the child waiting to be born.”


While other Republican candidates are content to bash the president’s health reform law without offering meaningful reforms of their own, Romney has defended the principal goal of the Massachusetts health care legislation, which was to ensure that all residents there had access to health care. In the same way, Romney’s strategy on taxes is unique among the Republican contenders in calling for reforms that would benefit middle-income Americans and not just those at the top of the economic pyramid.


This ability to see the merits of tough issues from something other than a knee-jerk, ideological perspective suggests that Mitt Romney would be willing to bridge the political divide in Washington. Americans are desperate for the Republicans and Democrats to work together. His record of ignoring partisan labels to pass important legislation when he was governor of Massachusetts suggests he is capable to making that happen.


For those reasons, Mitt Romney deserves the support of his party in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses. If he is the GOP nominee, the nation would have a clear choice in November 2012.




The Des Moines Register has been publishing presidential endorsements before general elections for more than 60 years. However, we didn’t endorse in the caucuses until 1988. Prior to that, the thinking was the editorial page should refrain from getting mixed up in the business of who a political party chooses as its nominee.


By 1988, the Iowa caucuses had established themselves as a matter of national interest. The people of this state were watching the candidates up close, and the country was watching Iowa.


“We’ve had a front-row view of these candidates and their ideas for more than a year, and it seems to us that we owe you a frank opinion on them,” explained James Gannon, the Register’s editor then.


The tradition of endorsing in caucuses was born. And here we are again.


Opinion pages are, after all, in the opinion business. We weigh in on issues of public interest 365 days of the year. Today’s endorsement is not intended to tell Iowans who to caucus for on Jan. 3. It is not to campaign for a candidate. (If we wanted to do that, we would have weighed in months ago and written subsequent editorials supporting that person). It is not to predict a winner.


Our goal in an endorsement is to provide a perspective for Iowans beyond what they read in regular news coverage and see in debates.


Rick Green, now the Register’s editor, said, “Our goal is to answer one question: who among these candidates would make the best leader for our country, should he or she land in the White House.”


Iowans take seriously their role as the first-in-the-nation caucus, Green said. So, too, does the Register. “We’re part of a unique conversation that dominates our state every four years but stretches well beyond Iowa. We embrace that responsibility thoughtfully, seriously and with due diligence.”


Our endorsement decision was informed by watching and listening to the candidates. We read widely — their speeches, position papers and contrary views. And we had the opportunity to question the candidates in interviews with the editorial board.


The staff met with all the Republican candidates who campaigned in Iowa. We have shared impressions from these meetings on the Opinion pages over the past few months.


Endorsements are the culmination of a long process. Last week, the editorial board met and worked to reach a consensus.


Members of the board are Laura Hollingsworth, the Register’s publisher and president; Rick Green, editor and vice president; Randy Evans, editorial page editor; and editorial writers Rox Laird and Andie Dominick. No one else at the newspaper attends this meeting or has any say in our endorsements.


As always, candidates who receive the Register’s nod receive no special consideration in subsequent news coverage or editorials.


In fact, we run our endorsements shortly before an election or caucus and later than many newspapers. That allows us to take full measure of candidates as their campaigns unfold, the same way other Iowans do.


So again today this newspaper is doing what we’ve done for almost 25 years: being part of the dialogue of democracy.
Thanks for reading.


— Editorial page staff

And after that fervent salute to Wall Street, here are the clips from Paul's appearance on Leno.


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DoChenRollingBearing's picture

+ 1

I'll be sending another check to Ron Paul 2012.  I am too paranoid to contribute via the 'Net.

That would be really great if Ron Paul wins!

If Ron Paul becomes our next president, we will have big problems, no doubt.

If Ron Paul does NOT become our next president, we will have MUCH BIGGER problems, no doubt.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Das is Mitt, Mor(m)on mitt. Git your Mitt right here.

As various folks have been pointing out, the Republicans seem to be setting up for disaster, a la Clinton Vs. Viagra man back when.

And since RP is obviously the Perot of th eday, who has a realistic chance?

Given how IT is unfolding, I say:

Schwarzznegger/Palin 2012. How? Obama's foreign origin will pave the way. 

Mark these words.



AssFire's picture

I thought they spoke English in India, not Yiddish riddles without rhyme or reason. Then again the spamming of your damn site.

Come on man! Nobody is marking your words with as many interpretations as Nostradamus' writings.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Hah, are yiddish riddle's rhyme and reason-less?

As for marking my words, it's interesting that the same people who will give endless mind-space to a financial conspiracy, going back deep and long, cannot imagine that all the other ass-pects of our lives are equally controlled. Including the political process and it's dummy candidates (including the Pontiff Ron).

And I'm not coming from a Nostradumbass point of view anyways. Just pattern recognition, sign watching (it's all signs and symbol anyways and before anyone jumps to red, look at what dominates this website's mind-set.... symbols. Only Symbols, Currency symbols, stock's all symbolic).

But to most here, symbolic, shambolic...all the same eh?

All good. No hard feelings. Sunday AM shennanigans is all.



Last_2_Sense's picture

 Holy shit! You're right, I think I just saw a sign, I have recognized the pattern!!


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Michael's picture

I uploaded a new video on my Youtube Channel in honor of this event, an example of the gift that keeps giving.

Dr Ron Paul Joe Rogan Man Love Moment on Jay Leno Dec 16 2011

bank guy in Brussels's picture

Re Ron Paul and his 'chances', even the Voice of America website says that the US voting machines - 'counting' 30 per cent of the US votes - can be hacked by a young teenager.

"We believe that a very resourceful 12 to 13-year-old would be able to essentially produce these alien electronics that can hijack the machine," said Roger Johnston.

bank guy in Brussels's picture

"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
Joseph Stalin, quoted in 'Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary' (1992), by Boris Bazhanov

(This is the apparently authentic version of the common Stalin quote, to the effect that it doesn't matter who votes, what matters is who counts the votes.)

zhandax's picture

And upon what supposition do you conclude that RP can't hire better hackers?  I will concede that it doesn't seem in profile, but he obviously does have a battle-tested campaign staff......

spankfish's picture

Diebold Election Systems, Inc.  Electronic voting gives me the warm fuzzies all over... goverment apparatchiks told me it was safe an secure.

YBNguy's picture

F'n LIEbolds, where every 2 out of 3 votes against obama is changed to obama!

Gringo Viejo's picture

Diebold/Romney: What the Register is saying in actuality is.....Romney is the best qualified candidate to maintain the status quo and existing political power structure. As did his father George, he will serve the oligarchy well. I subscribe to the mindset that if voting really changed anything, they'd make it illegal. So, enjoy the illusion of choice and as George Carlin said "Americans will remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's bein' jammed up their assholes everyday."

smlbizman's picture

i hope mr. paul does not do what ross perot did with his vp pick and parade out a civil war general.....

smlbizman's picture

....and it has just hit me that the very most crucial thing a president does is his power to appoint....

can mr. paul find enough people with enough  integrity and competence to fill these positions?




FEDbuster's picture

A Paul/Paul ticket would be just fine with me, but I doubt Rand would do it.  Regarding the search for good people, President Paul will just have to search outside the beltway for staff and appointees.

Ivanovich's picture

I think if Paul wins the nomination, the good people of politics - the ones in hiding - might be brave enough to come out.

IAmNotMark's picture

Gary Johnson would be a great choice.  Another reasonable man that is ignored by MSM.

spankfish's picture

Where do I put the dollar bill?

Michael's picture

In any other prosperous era I would have loved a "Schwarzznegger/Palin 2012" ticket. But have you taken your head out of your ass recently and smelled the Eurozone Embers?

It's not play time anymore.

Michael's picture

The complete and total worldwide economic collapse doesn't give a shit who the president is.

Michael's picture

A little diatribe I had with a poster on my Youtube video;

"A complete and total economic collapse of 1/3rd of the world economy, Europe, is currently underway.
The Eurozone is finished. It won't be long till the economic fallout engulfs the entire planet Including the USA that is already bankrupt.
If you don't read Zero Hedge you probably didn't know this bit of current events trivia that's concerning more and more people. Current economic events is why people are flocking to the Ron Paul camp.

The bank buildings will survive and be recycled.

@Michaelwisegu Yeah and your 1200 teeny bopper fans plan on doing this how? You said it yourself, the world economy will collapse if Obama wins. People arent as stupid as you. Sorry. Ron is where he is based on economic problems not war problems and bad canidates, not him being a great canidate. It is anyone but Romney but eventually peoplpe will settle for Romney. You little bastards will flip out
KingDingaLing090 56 minutes ago

@KingDingaLing090 Listen you stupid bitch!
The planet is fucking economic toast irregardless if our next president is Ron Paul or not.
I'd just like Dr Ron Paul to be there to pick up the pieces.
Michaelwiseguy 6 minutes ago

@KingDingaLing090 You stupid bitch!
The total economic collapse is currently underway. Have you not been reading Zero Hedge?
The complete and total worldwide economic collapse doesn't give a shit who the president is.
Michaelwiseguy 15 seconds ago "

FEDbuster's picture

The vast majority of people I talk with are in the "things are bad, but....." camp.  Kicking the can has worked to give people hope that this time won't be different and that something will spark another economic boom cycle.  I challenge them to offer one industry that will provide millions of domestic jobs like the housing boom did.  No one has an answer.  They go back to "something always pulls us out".

The only thing I can think of is a full fledged WW3 economy, with everyone focused on a war effort.  Economic sacrifice, rationed resources, near full employment (you are either fighting or working in war factories building planes and bombs, etc....)  This can't be an endless war like Afghanistan, it has to be a big one with all the players (Russia, China, Europe, etc...)  The entire Middle East has to be the battleground (Iran, Israel, Pakistan,....)  I am afraid this is what they will try to start, maybe even before the elections?

Michael is right this will be a complete worldwide economic collapse, massive debt defaults at every level and possibly the beginning of WW3 (which could be the beginning of the end?).

Given that scenario, the future of the world depends on the successful election of Ron Paul, perhaps the only one sane enough to prevent it.

Temporalist's picture

I thought that some of my friends were in the "things are bad, but..." camp too until recently.  They are starting to see the reality.  Obama supporters are now slapped with the hard reality that "Hope" doesn't make "Change" and when people feel scorned they are more likely to change their opinion.  I know people like this.  There are people posting on blogs that are leaving BOTH the Neocon and Democon camps because WAR is not the only option as it has been presented (Herman Cain's blog, Hannity's blog, Huff Post, Daily Paul are some examples where people are talking about their new understanding, agreement or support of Dr. Paul).

People are honestly afraid of more war and they should be and the hard fact that both parties are war hawks has really shaken people awake and they are changing and I've seen proof from people I never thought Iwould.

WTFx10's picture

Indians who work in America have to be the laziest educated individuals on the planet. Well at least in Information Technology. Never met or worked with people who have no clue what they are doing unless it is scripted for them,just my experience. So I really can not take you seriously, because  I'm sure somewhere down the line someone else has done your work for you while you reaped the benefits.

The sorry thing is indians are such nice people. That what makes you end up doing their work. it's like working with a downs syndrome individual, simple but nothing but nice.

Temporalist's picture

I worked with an Indian who nearly killed himself from exhaustion because he worked so hard - he was an IT Exec.


Whoa Dammit's picture

Am I the only one who noticed that Romney looks like a freaking vampire in his campaign photo that accompanies this story? 

Temporalist's picture

What do you expect?  Vampires aren't very photogenic.

akak's picture

Notice how he always avoids mirrors as well.

And NO oven-roasted garlic in HIS mashed potatoes, EVER, thank you very much!

AssFire's picture

Do Not give your phone number when you donate...every insider skum bag money chaser from Dick Morris to Gingrich has been bombarding me since sending the maximum to Dr. Paul in 2008. Federal election law makes this information available (another fuckin law).

Oh regional Indian's picture

Hey old friend Assonfire. How goes it? 

You know you can donate endless amounts of volunteer time, yes? Time is money. Phone banks and leafleteering and PACs galore.

Do it. America needs more people with their asses on fire doing stuff besides farting in anyone's general direction.


AssFire's picture

I got my nickname in the oilfield because I was the man who lit the fires to get people asses moving.. "Lite a fire under that fucker's ass" meant I had a job to do.

I hope you know I like you and what I would call your "Samurai Spirit" and don't mean to pick on you. The occasional spam is ok brother and I know i am a hard ass.. doctors tried to make me more docile with medication and I rejected it cause I got to run a business and still be the badass..even if the rest of the country has gone pseudo-feminine.

Oh regional Indian's picture

All good AF ;-) That poll you did back then was a real wake up. Seems I have a habit of espousing my POV in the most difficult gatherings!!!


DoChenRollingBearing's picture

+ MUCHO PotoFuego!  Thanks for the info!  Friggin laws...  As the Romans used to say:

Lex mala, lex nulla  <--- My sentiment exactly!

Temporalist's picture

Get a google phone number if you must give a number.

DosZap's picture


Do Not give your phone number when you donate

Man are you at 100%, my home phone is used by none of our friends,they call us on our cells.

For the past 18mos, I have been recieving (tracking), of who, and how  many calls per day, from 7:30a.m, to 10:30p.m., I have recieved SEVEN days a week,a minimum of 20-31 calls PER DAY.

Drives me batshit crazy.Would pull the plug, but am DSL.(Plus alarm system is main reason I have not).

Deo vindice's picture

Got to say Leno did a very fair interview there. Not a Leno fan (haven't had a TV for 12 years), but good on him.

And RP ... what's not to like? No wonder he resonates with Mr/Mrs Average Voter.

The guy simply tells the truth and, what's even better, makes sense.

IAmNotMark's picture

Can you imagine a real debate with Paul and Obama?  Telling the truth?  Wow!  What a concept?

JPM Hater001's picture

I have a rotten imagination.  I need to see the real thing...really badly.

Max Fischer's picture



I don't understand why Ron Paul is running as a Republican.  Why isn't he running as an independent? It makes no sense.  Not only do Faux News and the right-wing bobble heads hate the guy, his Randian ideologies seem to be the exact opposite of everything the modern republican party has stood for over the past few decades. Despite their soapbox appearances and patronizing rhetoric about the founding fathers, the Constitution and laissez faire, there's nothing about the modern republican party that resembles its original roots - nothing at all. And ironically, Ron Paul is the diametric opposite of any other Republican candidate.  So why is he running along with this pack of goofy retards?   

Hilariously, most of the right-wing media whores hate him despite the fact that he's the only true conservative. To start with, Rush Limbaugh has attacked him quite a bit lately. Just this week, he said that anyone in the GOP field could win the 2012 election against Obama EXCEPT ONE CANDIDATE: Ron Paul...LOL.  Amazingly, Rush has over ten million listeners, all of whom are gullible, naive, narrow-minded, pre-programmed frankensteins who can't think for themselves and require their politics pre-packaged and ready-made - like their TV dinners.  Like it or not, Rush has a huge influence over the Republican party and his recent mocking of Ron Paul goes further than you might imagine.

Glenn Beck is another super-partisan, right-wing, clown-like asshole with another large gullible audience that totals in the millions. As recently as 2007/08, he was comparing Ron Paul (and his followers) to domestic terrorists and dangerous extremists.

Not surprisingly, just a few months ago, Beck endorsed Michele Bachmann, the biggest fucking retard in the entire GOP field. I put Bachmann in the same category as Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell (her post-witchcraft days) and the entire community of Fraggle Rock. They're super-muppets, creatively designed for your distraction and/or entertainment.  For someone who pretends to hold the founding fathers and the US Constitution in such high regard, isn't surprising that Beck would pass over Ron Paul for some freakazoid broad who thinks vaccinations cause retardation?    

With rare exception, Faux News hates Ron Paul, too.  Remember the CPAC sound-editing bullshit?

So, you've got to ask yourself, why doesn't the right-wing media endorse Ron Paul - the only true Republican in the field?  Why do they stand behind the pseudo-republicans, super-retards like Bachmann and Palin..... or god-forbid Mitt Romney - the perfectly starched, emotionless cardboard cutout of a pandering, conservative politician who lacks any personality whatsoever?  Well, here's a probable answer: because the right-wing establishment needs to keep their voting base distracted and etherized with Kabuki theatre nonsense like birth certificates, socialism, Hitler, death panels, and threats of "mushroom clouds" so that their real base - the plutoctrats - can continue to suck the marrow from this country.  That's the real reason why right-wing court jesters like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Faux News, etc. are threatened by Ron Paul; he'll expose them. He'll threaten the lucrative status quo that enriches the 1% at the expense of the 99%. He'll stop the decades-long fleecing of this country by our "captured" politicians and their masters.  

But yet a better question: why does Ron Paul continue to associate himself with these charlatans, liars, crooks and court jesters?  It cheapens his cause.  Plus, there's such an overwhelming repulsion to the two-party system that has looted this country, an independent candidate would be welcomed more than ever.  

Max Fischer, Civis Mundi



williambanzai7's picture

Three factors explain the GOP establishment. 1. Don't bite your banksta master's hand, 2. Don't antagonize the military industrial complex 3. Hypocrisy.

If they were the conservative libertarians they claim to be, they would back RP. But they are not. They are whores that follow one principle consistently, hypocrisy.

RP should distance himself since the data appear to show his popular strengths are diversifying very quickly.

spankfish's picture

"They are whores that follow one principle consistently, hypocrisy."  History calls them "camp followers".  Our political camp followers are the biggest whores of all... they have climbed into the beds of the bankers and the military industrial complex.  The love child that has been born out of its incestuous relationship is a morally and financially bankrupt world.

Bob's picture

Hypocrisy, yes, but I think raw hate plays a prominant role there as well.  There's a substantial minority--at the very least--who seethe with a malignant hatred that burns for release upon a vulnerable target.  Doesn't matter if it's brown people overseas, the poor and elderly here, gays, somebody, anybody they can inflict pain upon with no risk to themselves

They remind me of prison guards and other cheap thugs, regardless of the cut of their uniforms . . . which, in the case of the modern GOP, appear to be those of The Minute Men. 

From a simple creative perspective, this annoys me--even the Brown Shirts they so clearly resemble at heart had the inspired fire to create a new paradigm, such as it was.

This seems to be the Revenge of the Short Bus Kids.  But they're clearly being scripted by external forces. 

Without their very real hunger for something palpably evil to represent them, however, it couldn't happen. 

My guess is that they're going to elect Gingrich . . . not in spite of his malevalence, but because of it. 

They love a lying bastard with the balls to lie in plain view in real time and defy anybody to do anything about it. 

Ugly times are ahead, I fear.

maxcody's picture

And you would vote for the cult of Obama again?

Bob's picture

Hell no.  We pretend that there are only two relevant parties and that a vote for anyone else is wasted.  Hell, I'd rather "waste" a vote on somebody I won't have to regret. 

Temporalist's picture

You forgot

4) Religious zealot fundamentalists (not all but many especially evangelicals obviously)

5) Religious hypocrite war hawks (Jesus being the bringer of peace and the meek inheriting the earth and giving away all earthly posessions and all...)

Henry Hub's picture

Running an independent candidate is a loosing proposition from the get-go. And it's deliberately setup that way. The last thing they want is a third party developing. You have to jump through almost impossible hoops to get on the ballet in each state. Ralph Nader said that he spent almost all his campaign money just getting on the ballot. Ron Paul still has his best chance inside the Republican party.

GMadScientist's picture

Running Ron Paul is a loosing proposition from the get-go. And it's deliberately setup that way.

trav7777's picture

"loosing"??  WTF

you shouldn't be permitted to vote