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Newspaper Chaired By Private Equity Head Shockingly Endorses Mitt Romney For President; Ron Paul On Jay Leno

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A few hours ago the Des Moines Register threw its support behind the Bain Capital founder, and the man now known to have actively destroyed any trace of his public "service" before his 2007 Massachusettes office handover (with a pending response to a Reuters FOIA, which will disclose just what it was that Romney was so tenuously shredding). Because according to the Iowan newspaper, Mitt Romney "is the best to lead" America, although into what, is not quite clear - perhaps the biggest Fed funded LBO (with a Bain Capital $1 mezz piece) of all time, that of America? We don't know. And neither does the Register's editorial board. What they do know are hollow adjectives, such as "sobriety", "wisdom" and "judgment" which somehow are applicable to Romney, if not so much "betting" and "shredding." Those looking for a late night laugh can read the OpEd below (link to tomorrow's front page here). And ironically, while likely set to provide a very short-term boost to Romney's chances, it is the baseless ongoing accusations against Ron Paul that will likely solidify the groundswell behind the Texan, with such desperate platitudes as "Ron Paul's libertarian ideology would lead to economic chaos and isolationism, neither of which this nation can afford." Because what America certainly needs is more of that old ideology of doing everything just the same and hoping for the best, because if there is anything Romney's would be predecessors have taught us is that hope apparently is a credible strategy. But perhaps most relevant is the reminder that the Des Moines Register is a Gannett company whose Chairman just happens to be one Marjorie Magner, whose bio reads

Ms. Magner, 61, is Managing Partner of Brysam Global Partners, a private
equity firm investing in financial services firms with a focus on consumer opportunities in emerging markets founded in January 2007.
She was Chairman and CEO of Citigroup's Global Consumer Group from 2003 to 2005. She served in various roles at Citigroup, and a predecessor company, CitiFinancial (previously Commercial Credit), since 1987. Ms. Magner currently serves as a director of Accenture Ltd. and Ally Financial Inc. and served as a director of The Charles Schwab Corporation from February 2006 to May 2008. Ms. Magner has broad business experience and financial expertise from the various senior management roles she held with Citigroup.

We will let readers find the other curious Gannett board members who just may have some conflicts of interest with a Ron Paul presidency.

Yet while this Paul-bashing circus was happening, Ron Paul made an appearance on Leno, further solidifying his mainstream image (ironically a process started by Jon Stewart). The full inteview is below.

But first, the propaganda scribbles from deep in the bowels of Iowa, which could have been Xeroxed from circa 1965 Stalingrad.



Sobriety, wisdom and judgment.


Those are qualities Mitt Romney said he looks for in a leader. Those are qualities Romney himself has demonstrated in his career in business, public service and government. Those qualities help the former Massachusetts governor stand out as the most qualified Republican candidate competing in the Iowa caucuses.


Sobriety: While other candidates have pandered to extremes with attacks on the courts and sermons on Christian values, Romney has pointedly refrained from reckless rhetoric and moralizing. He may be accused of being too cautious, but choosing words carefully is a skill essential for anyone who could be sitting in the White House and reacting to world events.


Wisdom: Romney obviously is very smart. He graduated as valedictorian at Brigham Young University and finished in the top 5 percent in his MBA class at Harvard, where he also earned a law degree. Romney also exhibits the wisdom of a man who listened and learned from his father and his mother, from his church and from his own trials and errors in life. He does not lack self confidence, but he is not afraid to admit when he has been wrong.


Judgment: Romney disagrees with Democrats on most issues, but he offers smart and well-reasoned alternatives rather than simply proposing to swing a wrecking ball in Washington. He is a serious student of public policy who examines the data before making a decision. His detailed policy paper on the economy contains 87 pages of carefully crafted positions on taxes, energy, trade and regulatory policy, complete with 127 footnotes.


Mitt Romney is making his second bid for Iowans’ support after an unsuccessful run in 2008. We did not endorse him then, but this is a different field, and he has matured as a candidate. Rebuilding the economy is the nation’s top priority, and Romney makes the best case among the Republicans that he could do that.


He stands out in the current field of Republican candidates. He has solid credentials in a career that includes running and starting successful businesses, turning around the 2002 Winter Olympics and working with both political parties as Massachusetts governor to pass important initiatives. He stands out especially among candidates now in the top tier: Newt Gingrich is an undisciplined partisan who would alienate, not unite, if he reverts to mean-spirited attacks on display as House speaker. Ron Paul’s libertarian ideology would lead to economic chaos and isolationism, neither of which this nation can afford.


Romney is accused of being a “flip-flopper.” He has evolved from one-time independent to moderate Republican in liberal Massachusetts to proud conservative today. He does not deny changing his position on some issues, but he will say he has made mistakes and has learned from them. Though Romney has tended to adapt some positions to different times and places, he is hardly unique. It should be possible for a politician to say, “I was wrong, and I have changed my mind.”


But more subtle distinctions apply to Romney on some major issues where he has been accused of flipping or flopping. He helped create health-care reform in Massachusetts that is strikingly similar to the much-derided “Obamacare,” for example. Yet Romney argues reasonably, though not entirely persuasively, that while all states should be free to experiment with their own reforms, it is wrong for the federal government to force a one-size-fits-all plan on the entire nation.


Romney’s tendency to carefully pick his way through the political minefields is illustrated by his carefully nuanced position on abortion over the years. He was quoted in 1994 as defending a woman’s right to choose abortion. When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney said he was personally pro-life but vowed he would not restrict or promote access to abortion. Yet he vetoed legislation legalizing the so-called morning-after pill because he saw it as easing access to abortion.


Voters will have to decide for themselves whether such subtly nuanced statements express Romney’s true beliefs or if he’s trying to have it both ways. Romney at least appreciates both sides of hard questions. “Many women considering abortions face terrible pressures, hurts, and fears; we should come to their aid with all the resourcefulness and empathy we can offer,” he wrote in a Boston Globe essay in 2005. “At the same time, the starting point should be the innocence and vulnerability of the child waiting to be born.”


While other Republican candidates are content to bash the president’s health reform law without offering meaningful reforms of their own, Romney has defended the principal goal of the Massachusetts health care legislation, which was to ensure that all residents there had access to health care. In the same way, Romney’s strategy on taxes is unique among the Republican contenders in calling for reforms that would benefit middle-income Americans and not just those at the top of the economic pyramid.


This ability to see the merits of tough issues from something other than a knee-jerk, ideological perspective suggests that Mitt Romney would be willing to bridge the political divide in Washington. Americans are desperate for the Republicans and Democrats to work together. His record of ignoring partisan labels to pass important legislation when he was governor of Massachusetts suggests he is capable to making that happen.


For those reasons, Mitt Romney deserves the support of his party in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses. If he is the GOP nominee, the nation would have a clear choice in November 2012.




The Des Moines Register has been publishing presidential endorsements before general elections for more than 60 years. However, we didn’t endorse in the caucuses until 1988. Prior to that, the thinking was the editorial page should refrain from getting mixed up in the business of who a political party chooses as its nominee.


By 1988, the Iowa caucuses had established themselves as a matter of national interest. The people of this state were watching the candidates up close, and the country was watching Iowa.


“We’ve had a front-row view of these candidates and their ideas for more than a year, and it seems to us that we owe you a frank opinion on them,” explained James Gannon, the Register’s editor then.


The tradition of endorsing in caucuses was born. And here we are again.


Opinion pages are, after all, in the opinion business. We weigh in on issues of public interest 365 days of the year. Today’s endorsement is not intended to tell Iowans who to caucus for on Jan. 3. It is not to campaign for a candidate. (If we wanted to do that, we would have weighed in months ago and written subsequent editorials supporting that person). It is not to predict a winner.


Our goal in an endorsement is to provide a perspective for Iowans beyond what they read in regular news coverage and see in debates.


Rick Green, now the Register’s editor, said, “Our goal is to answer one question: who among these candidates would make the best leader for our country, should he or she land in the White House.”


Iowans take seriously their role as the first-in-the-nation caucus, Green said. So, too, does the Register. “We’re part of a unique conversation that dominates our state every four years but stretches well beyond Iowa. We embrace that responsibility thoughtfully, seriously and with due diligence.”


Our endorsement decision was informed by watching and listening to the candidates. We read widely — their speeches, position papers and contrary views. And we had the opportunity to question the candidates in interviews with the editorial board.


The staff met with all the Republican candidates who campaigned in Iowa. We have shared impressions from these meetings on the Opinion pages over the past few months.


Endorsements are the culmination of a long process. Last week, the editorial board met and worked to reach a consensus.


Members of the board are Laura Hollingsworth, the Register’s publisher and president; Rick Green, editor and vice president; Randy Evans, editorial page editor; and editorial writers Rox Laird and Andie Dominick. No one else at the newspaper attends this meeting or has any say in our endorsements.


As always, candidates who receive the Register’s nod receive no special consideration in subsequent news coverage or editorials.


In fact, we run our endorsements shortly before an election or caucus and later than many newspapers. That allows us to take full measure of candidates as their campaigns unfold, the same way other Iowans do.


So again today this newspaper is doing what we’ve done for almost 25 years: being part of the dialogue of democracy.
Thanks for reading.


— Editorial page staff

And after that fervent salute to Wall Street, here are the clips from Paul's appearance on Leno.



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Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:46 | 1990794's picture

Still time to donate:

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:18 | 1990833 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

I'll be sending another check to Ron Paul 2012.  I am too paranoid to contribute via the 'Net.

That would be really great if Ron Paul wins!

If Ron Paul becomes our next president, we will have big problems, no doubt.

If Ron Paul does NOT become our next president, we will have MUCH BIGGER problems, no doubt.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:18 | 1990846 Oh regional Indian
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Das is Mitt, Mor(m)on mitt. Git your Mitt right here.

As various folks have been pointing out, the Republicans seem to be setting up for disaster, a la Clinton Vs. Viagra man back when.

And since RP is obviously the Perot of th eday, who has a realistic chance?

Given how IT is unfolding, I say:

Schwarzznegger/Palin 2012. How? Obama's foreign origin will pave the way. 

Mark these words.



Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:50 | 1990866 AssFire
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I thought they spoke English in India, not Yiddish riddles without rhyme or reason. Then again the spamming of your damn site.

Come on man! Nobody is marking your words with as many interpretations as Nostradamus' writings.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:53 | 1990895 Oh regional Indian
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Hah, are yiddish riddle's rhyme and reason-less?

As for marking my words, it's interesting that the same people who will give endless mind-space to a financial conspiracy, going back deep and long, cannot imagine that all the other ass-pects of our lives are equally controlled. Including the political process and it's dummy candidates (including the Pontiff Ron).

And I'm not coming from a Nostradumbass point of view anyways. Just pattern recognition, sign watching (it's all signs and symbol anyways and before anyone jumps to red, look at what dominates this website's mind-set.... symbols. Only Symbols, Currency symbols, stock's all symbolic).

But to most here, symbolic, shambolic...all the same eh?

All good. No hard feelings. Sunday AM shennanigans is all.



Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:32 | 1990990 Last_2_Sense
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 Holy shit! You're right, I think I just saw a sign, I have recognized the pattern!!


....................../´¯/)....................,/¯../.................../..../............./´¯/'...'/´¯/`........../'/.../..../....././¨¯\........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...').........\.................'...../..........\.................../............\..............(..............\.............\....

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:41 | 1991000 Michael
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I uploaded a new video on my Youtube Channel in honor of this event, an example of the gift that keeps giving.

Dr Ron Paul Joe Rogan Man Love Moment on Jay Leno Dec 16 2011

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 06:29 | 1991049 bank guy in Brussels
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Re Ron Paul and his 'chances', even the Voice of America website says that the US voting machines - 'counting' 30 per cent of the US votes - can be hacked by a young teenager.

"We believe that a very resourceful 12 to 13-year-old would be able to essentially produce these alien electronics that can hijack the machine," said Roger Johnston.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 06:31 | 1991050 bank guy in Brussels
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"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how."
Joseph Stalin, quoted in 'Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary' (1992), by Boris Bazhanov

(This is the apparently authentic version of the common Stalin quote, to the effect that it doesn't matter who votes, what matters is who counts the votes.)

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 07:32 | 1991073 zhandax
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And upon what supposition do you conclude that RP can't hire better hackers?  I will concede that it doesn't seem in profile, but he obviously does have a battle-tested campaign staff......

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:43 | 1991131 spankfish
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Diebold Election Systems, Inc.  Electronic voting gives me the warm fuzzies all over... goverment apparatchiks told me it was safe an secure.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:29 | 1991278 YBNguy
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F'n LIEbolds, where every 2 out of 3 votes against obama is changed to obama!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 15:50 | 1992006 Gringo Viejo
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Diebold/Romney: What the Register is saying in actuality is.....Romney is the best qualified candidate to maintain the status quo and existing political power structure. As did his father George, he will serve the oligarchy well. I subscribe to the mindset that if voting really changed anything, they'd make it illegal. So, enjoy the illusion of choice and as George Carlin said "Americans will remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's bein' jammed up their assholes everyday."

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:04 | 1991091 smlbizman
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i hope mr. paul does not do what ross perot did with his vp pick and parade out a civil war general.....

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:20 | 1991108 smlbizman
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....and it has just hit me that the very most crucial thing a president does is his power to appoint....

can mr. paul find enough people with enough  integrity and competence to fill these positions?




Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:02 | 1991226 FEDbuster
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A Paul/Paul ticket would be just fine with me, but I doubt Rand would do it.  Regarding the search for good people, President Paul will just have to search outside the beltway for staff and appointees.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:30 | 1991280 Ivanovich
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I think if Paul wins the nomination, the good people of politics - the ones in hiding - might be brave enough to come out.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:47 | 1991458 IAmNotMark
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Gary Johnson would be a great choice.  Another reasonable man that is ignored by MSM.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:43 | 1991127 Taint Boil
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Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:45 | 1991135 spankfish
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Where do I put the dollar bill?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:49 | 1991002 Michael
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In any other prosperous era I would have loved a "Schwarzznegger/Palin 2012" ticket. But have you taken your head out of your ass recently and smelled the Eurozone Embers?

It's not play time anymore.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 05:35 | 1991018 Michael
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The complete and total worldwide economic collapse doesn't give a shit who the president is.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 05:41 | 1991022 Michael
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A little diatribe I had with a poster on my Youtube video;

"A complete and total economic collapse of 1/3rd of the world economy, Europe, is currently underway.
The Eurozone is finished. It won't be long till the economic fallout engulfs the entire planet Including the USA that is already bankrupt.
If you don't read Zero Hedge you probably didn't know this bit of current events trivia that's concerning more and more people. Current economic events is why people are flocking to the Ron Paul camp.

The bank buildings will survive and be recycled.

@Michaelwisegu Yeah and your 1200 teeny bopper fans plan on doing this how? You said it yourself, the world economy will collapse if Obama wins. People arent as stupid as you. Sorry. Ron is where he is based on economic problems not war problems and bad canidates, not him being a great canidate. It is anyone but Romney but eventually peoplpe will settle for Romney. You little bastards will flip out
KingDingaLing090 56 minutes ago

@KingDingaLing090 Listen you stupid bitch!
The planet is fucking economic toast irregardless if our next president is Ron Paul or not.
I'd just like Dr Ron Paul to be there to pick up the pieces.
Michaelwiseguy 6 minutes ago

@KingDingaLing090 You stupid bitch!
The total economic collapse is currently underway. Have you not been reading Zero Hedge?
The complete and total worldwide economic collapse doesn't give a shit who the president is.
Michaelwiseguy 15 seconds ago "

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:21 | 1991259 FEDbuster
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The vast majority of people I talk with are in the "things are bad, but....." camp.  Kicking the can has worked to give people hope that this time won't be different and that something will spark another economic boom cycle.  I challenge them to offer one industry that will provide millions of domestic jobs like the housing boom did.  No one has an answer.  They go back to "something always pulls us out".

The only thing I can think of is a full fledged WW3 economy, with everyone focused on a war effort.  Economic sacrifice, rationed resources, near full employment (you are either fighting or working in war factories building planes and bombs, etc....)  This can't be an endless war like Afghanistan, it has to be a big one with all the players (Russia, China, Europe, etc...)  The entire Middle East has to be the battleground (Iran, Israel, Pakistan,....)  I am afraid this is what they will try to start, maybe even before the elections?

Michael is right this will be a complete worldwide economic collapse, massive debt defaults at every level and possibly the beginning of WW3 (which could be the beginning of the end?).

Given that scenario, the future of the world depends on the successful election of Ron Paul, perhaps the only one sane enough to prevent it.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:36 | 1991720 Temporalist
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I thought that some of my friends were in the "things are bad, but..." camp too until recently.  They are starting to see the reality.  Obama supporters are now slapped with the hard reality that "Hope" doesn't make "Change" and when people feel scorned they are more likely to change their opinion.  I know people like this.  There are people posting on blogs that are leaving BOTH the Neocon and Democon camps because WAR is not the only option as it has been presented (Herman Cain's blog, Hannity's blog, Huff Post, Daily Paul are some examples where people are talking about their new understanding, agreement or support of Dr. Paul).

People are honestly afraid of more war and they should be and the hard fact that both parties are war hawks has really shaken people awake and they are changing and I've seen proof from people I never thought Iwould.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 09:19 | 1991182 WTFx10
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Indians who work in America have to be the laziest educated individuals on the planet. Well at least in Information Technology. Never met or worked with people who have no clue what they are doing unless it is scripted for them,just my experience. So I really can not take you seriously, because  I'm sure somewhere down the line someone else has done your work for you while you reaped the benefits.

The sorry thing is indians are such nice people. That what makes you end up doing their work. it's like working with a downs syndrome individual, simple but nothing but nice.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:40 | 1991731 Temporalist
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I worked with an Indian who nearly killed himself from exhaustion because he worked so hard - he was an IT Exec.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:58 | 1991626 Whoa Dammit
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Am I the only one who noticed that Romney looks like a freaking vampire in his campaign photo that accompanies this story? 

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:41 | 1991735 Temporalist
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What do you expect?  Vampires aren't very photogenic.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 17:02 | 1992118 akak
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Notice how he always avoids mirrors as well.

And NO oven-roasted garlic in HIS mashed potatoes, EVER, thank you very much!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:18 | 1990847 AssFire
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Do Not give your phone number when you donate...every insider skum bag money chaser from Dick Morris to Gingrich has been bombarding me since sending the maximum to Dr. Paul in 2008. Federal election law makes this information available (another fuckin law).

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:25 | 1990860 Oh regional Indian
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Hey old friend Assonfire. How goes it? 

You know you can donate endless amounts of volunteer time, yes? Time is money. Phone banks and leafleteering and PACs galore.

Do it. America needs more people with their asses on fire doing stuff besides farting in anyone's general direction.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:52 | 1990877 AssFire
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I got my nickname in the oilfield because I was the man who lit the fires to get people asses moving.. "Lite a fire under that fucker's ass" meant I had a job to do.

I hope you know I like you and what I would call your "Samurai Spirit" and don't mean to pick on you. The occasional spam is ok brother and I know i am a hard ass.. doctors tried to make me more docile with medication and I rejected it cause I got to run a business and still be the badass..even if the rest of the country has gone pseudo-feminine.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:54 | 1990898 Oh regional Indian
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All good AF ;-) That poll you did back then was a real wake up. Seems I have a habit of espousing my POV in the most difficult gatherings!!!


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:28 | 1990868 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ MUCHO PotoFuego!  Thanks for the info!  Friggin laws...  As the Romans used to say:

Lex mala, lex nulla  <--- My sentiment exactly!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:43 | 1991742 Temporalist
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Get a google phone number if you must give a number.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 20:01 | 1992391 DosZap
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Do Not give your phone number when you donate

Man are you at 100%, my home phone is used by none of our friends,they call us on our cells.

For the past 18mos, I have been recieving (tracking), of who, and how  many calls per day, from 7:30a.m, to 10:30p.m., I have recieved SEVEN days a week,a minimum of 20-31 calls PER DAY.

Drives me batshit crazy.Would pull the plug, but am DSL.(Plus alarm system is main reason I have not).

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:25 | 1990859 Deo vindice
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Got to say Leno did a very fair interview there. Not a Leno fan (haven't had a TV for 12 years), but good on him.

And RP ... what's not to like? No wonder he resonates with Mr/Mrs Average Voter.

The guy simply tells the truth and, what's even better, makes sense.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:50 | 1991461 IAmNotMark
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Can you imagine a real debate with Paul and Obama?  Telling the truth?  Wow!  What a concept?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:42 | 1991739 JPM Hater001
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I have a rotten imagination.  I need to see the real thing...really badly.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 05:52 | 1991013 Max Fischer
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I don't understand why Ron Paul is running as a Republican.  Why isn't he running as an independent? It makes no sense.  Not only do Faux News and the right-wing bobble heads hate the guy, his Randian ideologies seem to be the exact opposite of everything the modern republican party has stood for over the past few decades. Despite their soapbox appearances and patronizing rhetoric about the founding fathers, the Constitution and laissez faire, there's nothing about the modern republican party that resembles its original roots - nothing at all. And ironically, Ron Paul is the diametric opposite of any other Republican candidate.  So why is he running along with this pack of goofy retards?   

Hilariously, most of the right-wing media whores hate him despite the fact that he's the only true conservative. To start with, Rush Limbaugh has attacked him quite a bit lately. Just this week, he said that anyone in the GOP field could win the 2012 election against Obama EXCEPT ONE CANDIDATE: Ron Paul...LOL.  Amazingly, Rush has over ten million listeners, all of whom are gullible, naive, narrow-minded, pre-programmed frankensteins who can't think for themselves and require their politics pre-packaged and ready-made - like their TV dinners.  Like it or not, Rush has a huge influence over the Republican party and his recent mocking of Ron Paul goes further than you might imagine.

Glenn Beck is another super-partisan, right-wing, clown-like asshole with another large gullible audience that totals in the millions. As recently as 2007/08, he was comparing Ron Paul (and his followers) to domestic terrorists and dangerous extremists.

Not surprisingly, just a few months ago, Beck endorsed Michele Bachmann, the biggest fucking retard in the entire GOP field. I put Bachmann in the same category as Sarah Palin, Christine O'Donnell (her post-witchcraft days) and the entire community of Fraggle Rock. They're super-muppets, creatively designed for your distraction and/or entertainment.  For someone who pretends to hold the founding fathers and the US Constitution in such high regard, isn't surprising that Beck would pass over Ron Paul for some freakazoid broad who thinks vaccinations cause retardation?    

With rare exception, Faux News hates Ron Paul, too.  Remember the CPAC sound-editing bullshit?

So, you've got to ask yourself, why doesn't the right-wing media endorse Ron Paul - the only true Republican in the field?  Why do they stand behind the pseudo-republicans, super-retards like Bachmann and Palin..... or god-forbid Mitt Romney - the perfectly starched, emotionless cardboard cutout of a pandering, conservative politician who lacks any personality whatsoever?  Well, here's a probable answer: because the right-wing establishment needs to keep their voting base distracted and etherized with Kabuki theatre nonsense like birth certificates, socialism, Hitler, death panels, and threats of "mushroom clouds" so that their real base - the plutoctrats - can continue to suck the marrow from this country.  That's the real reason why right-wing court jesters like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Faux News, etc. are threatened by Ron Paul; he'll expose them. He'll threaten the lucrative status quo that enriches the 1% at the expense of the 99%. He'll stop the decades-long fleecing of this country by our "captured" politicians and their masters.  

But yet a better question: why does Ron Paul continue to associate himself with these charlatans, liars, crooks and court jesters?  It cheapens his cause.  Plus, there's such an overwhelming repulsion to the two-party system that has looted this country, an independent candidate would be welcomed more than ever.  

Max Fischer, Civis Mundi



Sun, 12/18/2011 - 06:55 | 1991059 williambanzai7
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Three factors explain the GOP establishment. 1. Don't bite your banksta master's hand, 2. Don't antagonize the military industrial complex 3. Hypocrisy.

If they were the conservative libertarians they claim to be, they would back RP. But they are not. They are whores that follow one principle consistently, hypocrisy.

RP should distance himself since the data appear to show his popular strengths are diversifying very quickly.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:59 | 1991156 spankfish
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"They are whores that follow one principle consistently, hypocrisy."  History calls them "camp followers".  Our political camp followers are the biggest whores of all... they have climbed into the beds of the bankers and the military industrial complex.  The love child that has been born out of its incestuous relationship is a morally and financially bankrupt world.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:35 | 1991365 Bob
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Hypocrisy, yes, but I think raw hate plays a prominant role there as well.  There's a substantial minority--at the very least--who seethe with a malignant hatred that burns for release upon a vulnerable target.  Doesn't matter if it's brown people overseas, the poor and elderly here, gays, somebody, anybody they can inflict pain upon with no risk to themselves

They remind me of prison guards and other cheap thugs, regardless of the cut of their uniforms . . . which, in the case of the modern GOP, appear to be those of The Minute Men. 

From a simple creative perspective, this annoys me--even the Brown Shirts they so clearly resemble at heart had the inspired fire to create a new paradigm, such as it was.

This seems to be the Revenge of the Short Bus Kids.  But they're clearly being scripted by external forces. 

Without their very real hunger for something palpably evil to represent them, however, it couldn't happen. 

My guess is that they're going to elect Gingrich . . . not in spite of his malevalence, but because of it. 

They love a lying bastard with the balls to lie in plain view in real time and defy anybody to do anything about it. 

Ugly times are ahead, I fear.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 23:12 | 1992844 maxcody
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And you would vote for the cult of Obama again?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 23:34 | 1992959 Bob
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Hell no.  We pretend that there are only two relevant parties and that a vote for anyone else is wasted.  Hell, I'd rather "waste" a vote on somebody I won't have to regret. 

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:57 | 1991780 Temporalist
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You forgot

4) Religious zealot fundamentalists (not all but many especially evangelicals obviously)

5) Religious hypocrite war hawks (Jesus being the bringer of peace and the meek inheriting the earth and giving away all earthly posessions and all...)

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 07:03 | 1991063 Henry Hub
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Running an independent candidate is a loosing proposition from the get-go. And it's deliberately setup that way. The last thing they want is a third party developing. You have to jump through almost impossible hoops to get on the ballet in each state. Ralph Nader said that he spent almost all his campaign money just getting on the ballot. Ron Paul still has his best chance inside the Republican party.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:11 | 1991238 GMadScientist
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Running Ron Paul is a loosing proposition from the get-go. And it's deliberately setup that way.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:13 | 1991667 trav7777
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"loosing"??  WTF

you shouldn't be permitted to vote

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 14:00 | 1991786 Temporalist
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Shouldn't be allowed to procreate would more warranted.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 18:44 | 1992254 GMadScientist
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It was copied verbatim from the above post, "genius".

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:34 | 1991287 FEDbuster
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Some states it is nearly impossible to run as an independent, and that is the way the republicrats want it.  If anyone could win as an independent, it would be Ron Paul.  I think he would most likely split the vote, giving Barry another 4 years.

If I can't vote for Ron Paul, I will either not vote or vote for Barry.  "Hasten the Collapse, Obama 2012"  will replace my "Ron Paul 2012, Restore America Now" bumpersticker.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:30 | 1991426 knowless
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You should totally make and distribute the hasten the collapse bumper stickers, i'm guessing they would sell well.. like, use the exact design and color scheme as an obama sticker, would be awesome.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:01 | 1991225 ghengis86
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Ballot access. In this game, you must have an R or D behind your name if you want to play.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:49 | 1991761 technovelist
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The Libertarian party is usually on the ballot in all 50 states. Obviously Ron Paul will get their nomination if he doesn't get the Republican one. And he might actually win even as a third-party candidate, in this bizarre election cycle.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 14:03 | 1991794 Temporalist
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That did not happen the last time mainly because  he was running as R already and that will probably be the case this time.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 18:55 | 1992127 akak
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I disavowed any remaining connections with, or sympathies for, the US Libertarian Party after they nominated "Bob and Weave" Barr and his warmongering, thinly-disguised neocon "Root of all Evil" running mate during the last presidential campaign.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:50 | 1991314 Ralph Spoilsport
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I also have noticed the uptick in Ron Paul trashing from Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and Mark Levin this past week. Here's Levin's daily poll from last Friday about Ron Paul's performance at the Fox debate:


All of these talking heads have said repeatedly that the Democrats work together to trash the political opposition they fear the most. Looks like these Republican asshats really have something to fear from Ron Paul. Levin is especially viscious because he doesn't like RP's stance on Israel. He also seems to be defending the Banksters and blaming the current mess on stupid investors and home buyers. He's also quick to play the victim of anti-semitic comments which is always a "tell" for hiding one's real agenda.


Beck is a complete phony and has been since he went nationwide from the new studio they built for him in Philadelphia at WPHT radio. He was fresh from rehab then and was bloody awful to listen to. He's gotten a lot slicker since then but he's still completely fake and surrounds himself with childish sycophants. His new website is an utter disaster with bad grammar on parade along with moronic lock-step commenters.


Limbaugh is no longer worthy of any respect since he is now devoted to the role of a reactive attack dog defending anything GOP (except RP) while selling his new ice tea venture. He's still the best of the lot, but the ebb tide of the GOP has grounded their main battleship in a smelly mire of partisan muckraking. Sad this - talk radio has been a hobby of mine since the sixties.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 23:41 | 1992995 pods
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I noticed that Hannity has stepped it up during my "see how much asshole I can take today" drive home.  Not sure if the whole week was like this, but the 5 minutes I could stand to listen to seemed like Sean got a memo.

If all of them suddenly jumped on the trash RP bandwagon, it came from up above.  They all take orders from the same people.

Hannity was harping on the RP newsletters of 20 years ago.  Seemed pretty zealous about it too.  Some buck has to stop with him BS.

Wonder if he gives old Newt the same treatment for consulting for FM which IS indicative of insider scumbag?


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:12 | 1991508 NidStyles
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There is nothing Randian about Ron Paul.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:46 | 1991750 technovelist
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Ok, now you've gone too far. Likening the "other" Republican candidates to the cast of Fraggle Rock is a mortal insult... to the Fraggles!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:20 | 1991106 Monedas
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Mitt Romney has about as much personality as vanila cupcake icon Bing Crosby ! Monedas 2011 Comedy Jihad More personality I got in one of my toe hairs !

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:55 | 1991148 Jendrzejczyk
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Mitt...a low salt Saltine.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 14:06 | 1991800 Temporalist
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You calling Mittens a cracker?  He's not low salt he's stale and moldy.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 20:18 | 1992414 akak
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He's definitely some kind of white flour flatbread, anyway.

And the worst part is, I hear you have to be wearing some special kind of underwear just to eat it, too.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:58 | 1991627 Plata con Carne
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If you'd like to donate with a personal check, gold or silver...

Mail to:

Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Committee

845 Plantation Drive
Clute, TX 77531


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 23:04 | 1992794 maxcody
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Ron Paul will save you a lot of Money?  By getting Rid of the military?  Having no

border control?  Every one can sit home with their M60 machine gun and defend

the homestead because he will not fund law and order because it cost money.

He is like a John Bircher or a american Firster or Charles Lindbergh.  No thanks.

Romneyis a more sane choice.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 23:48 | 1993020 pods
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Read some of what Charles Lindbergh has written sometime.

You might realize you missed your mark.

"The financial system [...] has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That board administers the finance system by authority of [...] a purely profiteering group. The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money."

Charles August Lindbergh

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 23:04 | 1992796 maxcody
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Ron Paul will save you a lot of Money?  By getting Rid of the military?  Having no

border control?  Every one can sit home with their M60 machine gun and defend

the homestead because he will not fund law and order because it cost money.

He is like a John Bircher or a american Firster or Charles Lindbergh.  No thanks.

Romneyis a more sane choice.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:22 | 1990840 TruthInSunshine
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Ron Paul 2012. Not because you have or have not been taught /sarc/ that he's unelectable by the Main Ass Stream Proxy Media Pundit Puppets for the Goebbels Ministry of Truthiness -

- but because unless and until each American voter simply votes for the best person most representative of the core principles enshrined in an actual document that is the literal blueprint of how our government is supposed to run and that is also a constraint upon, and not a license for expansion of, governmental powers, we're all going to be getting the toxic manure byproduct of a false left-right paradigm, constructed to use marginally important social wedge issues to ramp emotions and divide and segment the voters, while the two party establishments that in reality really work for the exact same people/entities, as their both deeply captured in what is now our official Corpocratic Kleptocracy, continue to jointly push through a planned agenda filled with the truly critical issues that directly impact the lives of Americans on an everyday basis and in a highly significant way (and adverse to the overwhelming majority).

Republicans & Democrats throw issues like gay marriage and whether the pledge of allegiance must be recited in school out like red meat to their astroturfed bases, to keep the emotions charged, with neither of these or any other of the myriad of issues they fill their time jawboning about having much impact on 95% of the material lives of Americans, while they team up to vote together to give blank check powers to the Executive Branch (to start multi-trillion dollar wars or make de facto law by signing statements), give blank check ability of the Non-Federal Reserve Non-Bank to suck the blood of the taxpayer base and transfer said blood to the favored friends of its New York Branch, effectively picking winners and losers in the economy via central planning, and propping up a cancerous economic trend whereby Wall Street & Banking Parasites drain the nation to the edge of death, and pledge larger and larger share of national revenue to the MIC, so it can profit from taxpayers in the exact same fashion as Wall Street & the Banking Parasites, etc. etc. etc.

But hey, cnBSc, msnBSc, cBS, Faux News, aBSc and nBSc all say Ron Paul can't win, and only a crazy voter would cast a ballot for him, and in fact, he's worthy of being ignored, so we'll all just have to keep on sucking up the intense abuse and assault upon and erosion of our RIGHTS and social and economic interests, and accept the fundamental reality that we must accept the task of learning to make do with an Obama or RomGrinch, and the social wedge issues will guide us to who we prefer on those mostly hollow, meaningless issues.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:22 | 1990852 Oh regional Indian
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TIS, I'm afraid it looks like RP will be another BO at best, if elected. Nothing POTUS can do, change. Nothing.

He is being set-up as another messianic figure who will save it all. Unlikely no? The build-up has weird parallels to BO in terms of the quantum of change being sought/expected.

FED is set to self-destruct. RP cannot push or pull that train. It's all smoke and mirrors. That is what passes for reality, including RP's reality. 




Sun, 12/18/2011 - 03:23 | 1990934 LowProfile
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You really need to quite commenting on political systems you are obviously painfully ignorant of.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 03:41 | 1990947 Oh regional Indian
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Oh really? A difference of opinion infers ignorance? Ron Paul's messianicism needs to go un-unquestioned? 

And like me, have you served in high government office? Seen global politics up close and personal? Know some personalities? Had tea with Ron Brown a month before he was blown up ? Remember who he was even? 

You know your political system? What a joke. Not you, the political system you think you "know".

It's all a controlled game. Stage, players, the lot. I mean, look at Obama's rise. From Dem Speech to POTUS chair in months? A man with no verifiable back-ground, all kinds of hanging questions waltzes into office. You understand that game?

Perhaps you think you do.


Around Ron Paul and Gold, ZH is a self-re-enforcing echo-chamber. Both will dis-appoint. Badly.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 03:57 | 1990954 Libertarian777
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where were you 4 years ago when RP was saying the exact same things but everyone was saying he was nuts.


Only now that he has a mainstream following do trolls like you come out the woodwork to try and do drive-by insults. We've heard it all before. 2008 was worse, so go ahead vote for BO since RP will be 'no different'.

You are welcome to a difference of opinion, if you could explain it, but you don't, you just drive by and say, effectively' RP supports think he's the messiah. We don't think he will save us. We think he will get government off our backs and let us save ourselves.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:15 | 1990978 Oh regional Indian
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lib, he's been saying the same thing for 4/8/12/16..... 35 years.

or is it 34? Regardless. If ANYONE here thinks RP is going to change something, I have a candidate to sell them. Dream on.

You cannot sit in congress for 30+ years and have only words to your credit.

Name ONE thing RP has done. ONE. And DONE.

Besides put his sonny boy in CONgress.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:23 | 1990984 Terminus C
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ORI is right, change will not come through "the political process".

RP espouses the right message, but so did Obomba.  The world will not be saved from the top down.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:15 | 1991386 indygo55
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Many of the things RP has proposed are either ignored or shot down because what the rest of these corrupt sheepfuckers in congress want to do or are being forsed to do with a gun to their heads is maintain the status quo.

Read below:

This would be both good to know and useful when discussing Dr. Paul. I'll kick it off with these three.

1. Consistently votes against higher taxes, while explaining why, thus discouraging others from raising taxes.

2. Brought up the issue of monetary policy, which is incredibly important, and is now being discussed for the first time in many years.

3. Introduced legislation to restore Constitutional restrictions against government abuses.

Note that things not directly related to legislation will still affect it.

Oh, and here's a blog post by Paul 4 Prez on the subject.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 18:42 | 1992252 Temporalist
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Sheep need love too

Mon, 12/19/2011 - 00:30 | 1993168 akak
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Hence RobotTrader

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:26 | 1990986 PJPony
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It is better to do nothing at all, than to push crappy, unconstitutional legislation through without reading it.

Our government wasn't meant to make up a million garbage laws per year.  It was meant to work slowly and be difficult to get anything passed.

If Ron Paul takes down some of the unconstitutional laws and federal agencies, I would be happy with just that being done during his term in office.

Sometimes less is more.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 06:01 | 1991035 FreedomGuy
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I do not believe in the one-man political messiah thing, but every movement has it's leaders...generally, one. I think one thing everyone overlooks is the meaning of a Ron Paul win. First, it means the Republican party will get to it's libertarian roots. Second, were Ron Paul to win the national election it would be a defacto revolution. That is a loud and clear message that the "established" powers would have to hear and react.

I had three favorite Republican candidates and Ron Paul is chief among them. The reason is we need someone to "break" the current system. Either we break the way things are done in government or the government will break us, the populace by bankrupting and enslaving us with insurmountable debts, worthless currencies and unending regulation.

Mitt Romney is a guy who will simply run the status quo better than the current administration. I believe that most the Republicans would do the same albeit with a Republican flavor rather than Democrat flavor. Many Republicans have a history of growing government considerably. That's why there is some truth to the saying "Two parties, one result."

I and many of my conservative-libertarian friends will sit out the election if Mitt gets the nomination. I actually think Obama and the Democrat leadership know this and it is why they give Mitt praise at every opportunity.  

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 18:41 | 1992250 weinerdog43
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It's really quite amusing to see the current cast of morons the Republic party has thrown up this time around.  Excepting Mr. Paul, not a single one is capable of an office higher than dogcatcher.  What a bunch of scum.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:08 | 1991232 Element
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It's the character of the leader that 'informs' Admin officials how to conduct themselves.

When it comes to Bush and Obama their characters certainly 'informed' their Admin how to be have.

I can't help saying I don't believe any politician is ever the solution.

Because the character of the American people 'informs' the President how to conduct himself, also.

And there's your problem right there.

Is X-factor on yet?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:09 | 1991096 cossack55
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Must respectfully disagree, ORI. Just follow the history of the "United States Note".  Sadly, RP would not make it thru his first term.  He has only two arms while the Squid has many.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 09:11 | 1991173 WTFx10
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So give up and play the game and STFU

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:34 | 1991115 ISEEIT
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ONE thing? He has helped to crystalize a movement. He puts a face to Libertarianism. Few view RP as some sort of messianic 'saviour'. RP isn't telling us what we want to hear. RP is speaking the truth that we appreciate being spoken. RP represents an awakening in the American psyche to the fact that something (everything) is terribly wrong. I can't yet get myself to believe that RP will ever be potus but I do believe that thanks in part to RP the genie is out of the bottle and she isn't going back. The young have caught on and they will continue to catch on. Our political system (much like our financial markets) becomes more fragile by the day. 

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:55 | 1991150 Vic Vinegar
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Great comment.

Somebody here said the other day that once one becomes a Ron Paul supporter they don't look back.  There's really no alternative once one hears honesty.

Ron Paul can win.  It's only perpetual losers that say he can't.  

It's now or never, bitches.  Ron Paul 2012!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:10 | 1991368 rqb1
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It is now, I agree. He is really coming out swinging. Four years ago, there were homemade signs hanging in his support were i live, now he has professional signs and is a contender. Donate, the msm may not choose to cover him, but they will take his money!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 15:08 | 1991935 Dr. Kananga
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Ron Paul is becoming very popular and in ways the GOP doesn't appreciate just yet. There were people calling in to KPFA (ultra-left radio in CA) who were saying that they were going to re-register as Republicans in order to vote for Paul in the primaries--and the reason? Not because they agree with his social policies per se, but because (1) he's telling the truth, unlike the other candidtates or Obama, and (2) he correctly identified the role the Fed has played in bringing our country down.

I've also notced that the left is quietly abandoning Obama in droves. The Democrat Party will back him, but most folks can see he hasn't done anything they expected him to do--and his monetary policies and defense of civil liberities are indestingishable from Bush II. The thinking seems to be, if we've got a DINO, may as well go over to the GOP and vote for the guy who isn't full of shit.

And neither here nor there, but someone dug up an old George Carlin clip for me--have a watch; he was on to all this shit years ago:

Too bad he's not available for RP's future Press Secretary position.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 16:14 | 1992041 JR
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I've also noticed in listening to left-leaning radio stations that there's a switch to Ron Paul based on his more common sense stand on the Middle East. And their talk show hosts are having a hard time handling Obama supporters who are abandoning ship.

Sometimes it’s unspoken but the real division in the Republican Primary contest now involves the Middle East.

First, the neoconservatives (neoconservatism was founded by Zionist Norman Podhoretz) “were frantic to pick anyone but Romney.” But as their heroes rose and fell – Perry, then Cain and now slipping, Gingrich - and now faced with a Ron Paul choice, they’ll be going with Romney. It’s because the neocons’ fundamental issues really are empire and support of Israel.

That’s why this endorsement of Romney, probably handed down from Gannett Chairman Marjorie Magner, has the appearance of a selection based on Israel first. With all of the faults that the neocons and Rockefeller Republicans can find with Romney, he will go to war with Iran.

Gannett Chair Magner left her job running one of the largest corporate operations in the world, Citigroup’s global consumer group, because she wanted greater authority in management, according to U.S. Banker magazine. Well, it looks as if she’s got it. This critical newspaper endorsement has Magner’s aggressive micro-management style all over it. The endorsement is especially suspicious in that Magner is Jewish and has maintained close relationships with major Wall Street enterprises.

Conflicts of interest, including those involving foreign policy and war, are running the country.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 17:39 | 1992172 Cathartes Aura
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Mormon Mitt will fit right in, it's hardly surprising to see him running ahead of the repub pack - he's a wealthy, stealthy politician, his godly beliefs include secret society Masonic in-speak, even a homeland Zion based in Illinois for the righteous to assemble on. . .

slick, with an agenda - sounds par for the course. . .

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:00 | 1991480 IAmNotMark
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Okay.  I will name one thing that Ron Paul has done:

He has positioned himself to become the next president of the United States.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:55 | 1991617 Plata con Carne
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What has Ron Paul done so far?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 18:06 | 1992212 IAmNotMark
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Exactly the answer to the question!  Great link!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:14 | 1990965 toothpicker
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Sun, 12/18/2011 - 04:59 | 1991006 StychoKiller
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ALL things must (and will!) pass.  What is Dharma, oh wise one?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 05:22 | 1991014 Oh regional Indian
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Dharma is but an Anagram of Drama with an h thrown in for good Measure Stycho.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:13 | 1991100 Vic Vinegar
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lib, he's been saying the same thing for 4/8/12/16..... 35 years.

or is it 34? Regardless. If ANYONE here thinks RP is going to change something, I have a candidate to sell them. Dream on.

You cannot sit in congress for 30+ years and have only words to your credit.

Name ONE thing RP has done. ONE. And DONE.

Besides put his sonny boy in CONgress.


That really was the dumbest fucking comment I ever read.

Name us one thing you did ORI other than write useless shit on the internet? 

Please STFU asshole.  We get it - your life is sad, and you are going to spend the rest of your life hating on things.

The time is now - Ron Paul is freaking awesome.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 09:08 | 1991168 Oh regional Indian
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Vic vic, hero worship will get you nowhere. Neither will name calling.

Ron Paul must be an okay guy, as a politico, he is hot-air+inaction.

Good luck though, because he and you are going to need it in BIG measure.




Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:13 | 1991240 GMadScientist
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But his hot air makes them feel less like marginalized nutjobs with no voice in politics.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 15:22 | 1991965 Temporalist
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He's so irrelevant you two used polluted discarded dredgeup and rediscarded douchebags are here posting about him endlessly.  

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:33 | 1991436 FrankDrakman
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I don't hear Ron Paul proclaiming he's the "messiah" anywhere - you seem to be the only one pinning that on him.

People like Paul because he's the ONLY guy who respects the Constitution. The Toad not only doesn't respect it, he doesn't respect SCOTUS either. Voting for him would lead to the new TV series "Newt's Law". (Newt was quoted in the LA Times that he would overrule SCOTUS if they found gays had a "constitutional right" to marry, saying that there's nothing in the Constitution regarding one man's right to marry another man. Well, there's nothing in it regarding one man's right to marry another WOMAN either. As Paul points out, that's a decision for the states at least, and among individuals at best.)

Romney? "You don't like these principles? I got others..."

Bachman? Makes Nancy Pelosi look sane.

Perry? Oops.

Santorum? Who?

Huntsman? Actually a decent guy, bland and technocratic, but he wouldn't be a horrible Prez; GHW Bush 2.0. Too bad he has the voter appeal of a day-old, half-eaten Twinkie.

So, it's Paul or four more years of Obama. I think you'd rather see four more years of the Mau-Mau Mobster.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:43 | 1991584 NidStyles
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Nope, but in this instance, you're a moron and should be ignored.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 18:41 | 1992251 Mr. Magniloquent
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Ron Paul is septagenerian with a nasely voice who stammers, stutters, and expounds relentlessly about central monetary policy and economic planning. Concisely said, the man is devoid of charisma.

Cults pivot upon the axis of whorshiping a charismatic personality. There is no Cult of Dr. Ron Paul. Supporters of Ron Paul respect the man precisely because of his ideals & lifetime of integrity personifying those ideals. Should Ron Paul ever rescind or contradict his voluntaryist virtues, his support would vanish instantaneously.

Voting for Ron Paul is not a vote for the messiah. It is a declaration of defiance and rebellion to a century of blood, economic chaos, and tryanny. Therefore; I don't want Ron Paul to become President of the United States. I wish him to be elected as such.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:48 | 1991756 JPM Hater001
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"Nothing POTUS can do, change. Nothing.  The build-up has weird parallels to BO in terms of the quantum of change being sought/expected."

Oh I dont know.  I think the POTUS got a lot of change through...He got my change and your change and end the fed's change and tylers change and...

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 19:53 | 1992386 ClassicalLib17
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All the next president has to do is use that veto power and force the 535 to expose themselves for what they are.  I would also advise Ron Paul not to venture out of the white house for the next four years.  Our noble sons and daughters in the military will take care of the rest of the problem people employed by our gov't.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:24 | 1990858 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

OK, Truth, yes, but here's my semi-logical take:

Ron Paul > any other R > than Owebama.  ONLY Ron Paul will do what it takes to fix our country.  We would still be in for a lot of pain, most of us know that.

Any other R getting elected means a slower death of America.  O getting re-elected just speeds it up. IMO there IS $0.14 worth of difference between the Rs and the Ds.  Not much, but a little.  And not enough to really matter...

It has to be Ron Paul as our next president, or we will suffer even worse...

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:14 | 1991243 GMadScientist
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...we will suffer even worse...

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 09:56 | 1991212 scatterbrains
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This whole Ron Paul thing is very nostalgic and romantic to think that we could go back to a different time and place in America but in the end he will solidify Oblabla's victory and all according to the banksters plans because you peeps are forgetting that any person connected to the fed gov. teet / unions / black churches / not to mention the democratic base will overwhelm all and if that doesn't work Soros *who counts the votes* will make sure the status quo prevails. Nothing will change until they blow themselves up. All you can do is try to prepare for that eventuality. I will go through the motions and vote but I know it's a rigged game.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:06 | 1991497 IAmNotMark
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What is nostalgic and romantic about expecting the President to actually believe in and follow the oath of office?

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Ron Paul will defend the Constitution of the United States with more honesty and integrity than any other man that I see on the stage.  What is wrong with that?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 15:42 | 1991997 scatterbrains
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Sure he will but the plan is not to let him win so what does it matter ? I smile at all the disapproving clicks.

Good luck bitches

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:22 | 1990853 azusgm
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Why not run over to InTrade and buy some Ron Paul shares? It would truly mess with some minds of people who watch such things.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 03:03 | 1990917 Painted Blaze
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And done!  Bought me one of those nice coffe mugs.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 06:25 | 1991045 WhiteNight123129
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Mitt Romney = Hugo Stinnes of 1920s Germany



Sun, 12/18/2011 - 07:37 | 1991077 Sofa King
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One of the wisest Statesmen ever to walk this Earth:

He who lives on Hope will surely die fasting. - Ben Frankiln


What we elect into office nowadays:

"In the end, that's what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope? John Kerry calls on us to hope. John Edwards calls on us to hope. I'm not talking about blind optimism here — the almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don't talk about it, or the health care crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it. No, I'm talking about something more substantial. It's the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs; the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores; the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta; the hope of a millworker's son who dares to defy the odds; the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too. Hope in the face of difficulty. Hope in the face of uncertainty. The audacity of hope!" - Barack Obama

We need to start listening to the wise, again.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:12 | 1991098 Gringo Viejo
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Bob Hope 2012

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 07:55 | 1991088 smlbizman
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for the first time in my life ..i donated on my 54 yrs of life every vote i have ever casted went to the shit sandwich instead of the douche bag...

finally i get to vote for someone i want.....

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 14:18 | 1991840 Chuck Walla
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I think the DM Register also endorsed Obama. 'nuff said, m'kay?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 23:23 | 1992908 maxcody
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ANY GOP canidate is 100% better than the cult of Obama.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:51 | 1990799 Mr pain
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Another big score for Bishop Romney

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:10 | 1990827 Troll Magnet
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i bet you $10,000 that this endorsement don't mean shit.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:20 | 1990836 AldousHuxley
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Romney = son of CEO (born on 3rd) =  Bain capital (tax evasion client servies) = wall st. shill for the megarich


Elect Romney if you believe American Dream is only for CEO's kids getting richer gambling money on wall st.



Does this guy look like someone who cares about middle class America or another money grubing bankster?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:15 | 1990841 Mr pain
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$10,000 won't even buy a pair of magic underpants you fool. :)   Go Ron Paul.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 03:24 | 1990937 LowProfile
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You're going to have to give me some big odds if you want me to take that bet.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:51 | 1991602 Plata con Carne
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Well, Ron Paul's got the endorsement of the kids at the University of Iowa. The Daily Iowan newspaper has endorsed him.  There is no Youth for Romney, or Youth for Gingrich.  Ron Paul is sponsoring hundreds of kids in Iowa & New Hampshire with food & lodging for x-mas & New Year's vacation for some serious boots on the ground campaigning action.  

The Phone from Home program has been running for months as well.

If you'd like to sponsor a precinct to receive the Super Brochure, here's the link. 

Iowa and New Hampshire have already been blanketed, S.C., Florida and Nevada are ready to go...

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 14:20 | 1991849 Chuck Walla
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I went to Iowa. Most of those little punks can't think themselves home fom the Airliner.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:54 | 1990804 Seasmoke
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 "Ron Paul's libertarian ideology would lead to economic chaos and isolationism, neither of which this nation can afford."


sounds exactly the reasons why everyone should be voting for Ron Paul

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:14 | 1990838 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:29 | 1990870 Non Passaran
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You're right!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 08:07 | 1991094 Miss Expectations
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And we keep hearing BS  and lies like this:

"Americans are desperate for the Republicans and Democrats to work together."

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:59 | 1991629 Sathington Willougby
Sun, 12/18/2011 - 16:46 | 1992090 FreedomGuy
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That was my reaction. See my prior post about "breaking" the system. There will be economic catastrophe without Paul. These establishment people are so predictable and defensive. I used to laugh at them. Now I hate them for their stupidity and willful blindness. Our rulers use this stupidity for their own ends.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 01:54 | 1990805 Deo vindice
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Make no mistake about it. TPTB do NOT want Ron Paul in office. They will keep throwing their weight behind anyone, anybody but RP, so long as that person has even an outside shot at the nomination.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:14 | 1990837 Troll Magnet
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pretty fucking sad, isn't it? those who are thinking about voting for anyone but ron paul should be deported. i swear we have some of the stupidest motherfuckers living in this country. if we get anyone but ron paul, we deserve to go become the next argentina.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:16 | 1990842 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

I am afraid you are right.

Ron Paul is without doubt the best, by far, of the bunch.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 07:17 | 1991067 Benjamin Glutton
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The GOP sheep will be encouraged to vote Obama in the general election if Ron Paul wins the nomination,imo.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:56 | 1991620 Sathington Willougby
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Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity will lead that charge.  For ratings they care not, the puppetmaster provides all.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 09:13 | 1991174 spankfish
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"if we get anyone but ron paul, we deserve to go become the next argentina."  Does that mean we get all the hot Latin babes?  I will write my vote in again this election... typically a dead guy.  Hmmm... who will it be this year?  Got it!  Gus Hall! That will teach those bastards in the logic free zone.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 14:22 | 1991856 Chuck Walla
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i swear we have some of the stupidest motherfuckers living in this country. 


How else can anyone account for the election of a crooked, never done anything, America hating, Communist?

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:01 | 1990815 baby_BLYTHE
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fuckin' silver haired fascist Mitt Romney

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 13:31 | 1991696 slewie the pi-rat
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^new look, b_B!     ~~|:zH)

same shy waif underneath, i see L0L!!!

this is gonna be a brutal campaign!

prez0 may have even lost the teleprompter and be hitting the road a bit more;  can't hurt him, imo

romney was the goobernor during the goodridge ruling and it was he who ordered MA to start issuing same-sex licenses.  he had a vision or something and tried for a homophobic electoral triple-lindy, and this paste from wiki hints:

Governor Mitt Romney launched the "superslate" campaign in 2004, based on the idea that the state Republican Party could use Conservative ideals and family values as a wedge issue and gain seats, spending millions of his own dollars and personally campaigning for Republican candidates in traditionally Democratic seats. Despite his efforts, the Republican party lost three seats in the 2004 election. Since then, many legislators have changed their views to reflect growing support for same-sex marriage among their constituents. One of the original sponsors of the amendment to ban same-sex marriage and legalize civil unions, Brian Lees, said, "Gay marriage has begun, and life has not changed for the citizens of the commonwealth, with the exception of those who can now marry."[8][Same-sex marriage in Massachusetts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]

so, some of the politics around this hot-button stuff may have something to do with the deletorious deleting [and possibly more to protect others, alto there is probably a ton of hypocrisy involved on his part, too]

californiansWhoPayAttention know that it was mormon money and organization which stuck a fork in Prop8 in'08 and it was big money & anti-gay rights activism, too!

this guy is gonna seem more pious than dubya going into 2000 if such a thing were possible...

tyler's link to the other gannett bd members leads one to:

President and CEO. Formerly president and chief operating officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2010-2011); Executive vice president and chief financial officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2006-2010); Senior vice president and chief financial officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2003-2006).
Other directorships: FM Global.  Age 60.  (my emphasis  L0L!!!)

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:01 | 1990818 ACP
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SWEET! That means QE4, QE5 and QE6.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 03:42 | 1990949 Deo vindice
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Not sure if you had your sarc on or off.

As for me, I would rather have Ron Paul than a QE4,5,or 6.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:02 | 1990819 williambanzai7
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Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:25 | 1990861 Jumbotron
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Sun, 12/18/2011 - 06:57 | 1991060 williambanzai7
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Just what we need, a Wall Street asset stripper for President. Heil Zombie!

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 02:59 | 1990829 AssFire
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It must come down to a third party and Ron Paul when the Republicans chose a long time government/ wall street insider, both with big government backgrounds. I will sit out the election again before I vote for any of them but Ron.

Nothing changes if anyone but Paul is elected.- except the hatred and disdain for the federal government will boil over sooner without the massive wing clipping to both parties interest's.

I don't care if Paul wins third party with 34% to the two others 32%. I don't care if it shuts the government down with gridlock. Veto every damn spending bill defund everything whatever just no more fake money, corruption and crony capitalism.


Sun, 12/18/2011 - 16:53 | 1992101 FreedomGuy
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I actually believe there is a chance in Newt Gingrich. I think his understanding of history and some of the influences that will be around him may serve him well. He is a fix-it guy. I actually like his combative attitude and I liked the old no-prisoners Newt as well. Do you think Pelosi and Reid were nice when they twisted arms behind the scenes to get the beginnings of national healthcare passed? I guarantee that if Nancy had naked photos of Democrat Congressmen with the wrong people she used it. They broke or ran the gray areas of every Congressional rule they had to in order to get what they wanted. You think nice guys, coalition guys, reasonable guys, moderates, etc. will win anything against that crew? They will get their ass kicked and the Dems will still blame the Republicans for all failures and gridlock.

Don't forget, Newt actually beat the Dems, got rid of their leaders and moved the country right with a Democrat prez and senate. We have no one else like that, not Boehner, not even my fav, Ron Paul.

So, I like a lot of things about Newt. Just the fact that the establishment hates him should give most ZH readers pause to think their might be something good about this guy. Why does he scare the powers that be? Notice only he and RP really upset the established powers and MSM, even Fox. Good indicator if you ask me.

Sun, 12/18/2011 - 18:04 | 1992209 Cathartes Aura
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your Newt the-fixit-guy is a strategic plant to hammer the globalist "one world" message home at this crucial time in their plotline.

just read / listen to his message, he's pushing the meme for them, irrespective of whether he "wins" or not - he's doing what he's paid to do.

pay attention.

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