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No Country For Thin Men: 75% Of Americans To Be Obese By 2020

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While much heart palpitations are generated every month based on how much of a seasonal adjustment factor is used to fudge US employment, many forget that a much more serious long term issue for the US (assuming anyone cares what happens in the long run) is a far more ominous secular shift in US population - namely the fact that everyone is getting fatter fast, aka America's "obesity epidemic." And according to a just released analysis by BNY ConvergEx' Nicholas Colas, things are about to get much worse, because as the OECD predicts, by 2020 75% of US the population will be obese. What this implies for the tens of trillions in underfunded healthcare "benefits" in the future is all too clear. In the meantime, thanks to today's economic "news", fat people everywhere can get even fatter courtesy of ever freer money from the Chairman, about to be paradropped once more to keep nominal prices high and devalue the dollar even more in the great "race to debase". Our advice - just pretend you are going to college and take out a $100,000 loan, spending it all on Taco Bells. But don't forget to save enough for the latest iPad, and the next latest to be released in a few weeks, ad inf.

From ConvergEx:

Summary: It’s a shocking anomaly that a highly developed country with the world’s largest GDP also has the world’s most obvious obesity endemic. Nearly 34% of United States citizens are obese, which is triple the rate of most of its peer countries. Notably, Americans both drink and smoke less than much of the industrialized world, making this problem all the more puzzling. The causes appear to be largely cultural, with low food costs playing a supporting role. Obesity in the U.S. is more prevalent along certain groups, but by some estimates an astounding 3 out of 4 Americans will be obese or overweight by 2020. The obvious comparison here is to smoking, a public health challenge that has declined in popularity for decades due to higher taxes and public awareness of the risks involved. The answers to the obesity problem will be much tougher, however. And with widespread use of government money for Food Stamps (+20% of all households) and school lunches (+30% of all children), the Federal government is squarely in the middle of the debate.

Consider some wacky “all-American” dining options. Burger King’s Manhattan Whopper Bar offers an aptly-named “Pizza Burger”– a ginormous cheeseburger accentuated by pepperoni and chopped into 6 slices. Denny’s spices up the classic but boring grilled cheese by driving 4 mozzarella sticks into the already gooey cheddar goodness (Fried Cheese Melt). And IHOP delivers fluffy pancakes stuffed with hunks of cheesecake drowning in whipped cream and splashed with powdered sugar (New York Cheesecake Pancakes). Not to mention they’re only 4 bucks.

Not to be outdone, Las Vegas is home to another appropriately named (and self-proclaimed) producer of “nutritional pornography” – the Heart Attack Grill. Menu options include a “Quadruple Bypass Burger,” “ButterFat Shake” and all-you-can-eat “Flatliner Fries.” If you’re over 350 pounds you eat for free, and shots are served in 4 ounce pours. The restaurant made headlines last month when a 40-something man suffered a heart attack (what else?) while chowing down in its dining room. Go ahead, you can chuckle – he’s alive and kicking somewhere out West. At the time of his heart attack he’d been eating the 6,000 calorie “Triple Bypass Burger” featuring 3 half-pound patties, half a fried onion, cheese, and 15 slices of bacon.

So is it really any surprise that 1 in 3 Americans are obese? The United States has a bigger obesity problem than any other industrialized country in the world, with a 33.8% obesity rate, according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). Note that obesity is defined according to a body mass index (BMI), which calculates human body fat based on weight and height. BMI readings of 30 or greater signify obesity, while a score between 25 and 30 indicates “overweightness.”

A typical man of 5’10” should weigh, for example, about 170 pounds. The U.S.’s next closest “competitor” is Mexico with a 30% obesity rate, while Canada and the U.K. have rates of 24% and 23%, respectively. Other highly developed countries such as Germany, Italy and France have rates below 15%, and Japan is all the way down at 3.9%. India’s citizens are the trimmest, with a 2.1% obesity rate. The average for the 34 OECD member countries is 16.9% – exactly half that of the United States.

Obesity is one obvious culprit for the exorbitant amount of money that Americans spend on health care. Health expenditures (including capital investment in health care infrastructure) are just shy of $8,000 a year per person, which is almost 50% more than in any other country, and represents nearly one-fifth of total GDP. Expenditures in Norway and Switzerland, numbers 2 and 3 on the list, represent a little more than $5,000 per person. The Brits spend about $3,500 a person, while the Japanese spend just $2,900 per person. Indonesia brings up the rear with only $99 spent per capita, although that comparison is obviously skewed by its emerging economy status.

Despite access to high-quality health care services, facilities and infrastructure, Americans live 78.2 years on average, or more than a year less than the OECD member nation average of 79.5 years. Our neighbors to the north and nearly all of our European counterparts live somewhere between 80 and 82 years, while the Japanese live longer than anyone else (83 years).

Just to quickly check off a couple of obvious other behavioral/health boxes, we know our lives generally aren’t cut short by smoking or excessive alcohol consumption. Sixteen percent of Americans are daily smokers, compared with the OECD average of 22.1%. In France, for example, more than 1 in 4 people are regular smokers, while a whopping 40% of Greeks fess up to having at least one daily smoke. Comparatively we don’t drink that much either. On average for ages 15 and up, Americans consume 8.8 liters (298 ounces) of alcohol annually. The OECD average is 9.1 liters, and the French top the chart (surprise, surprise) at 12.3 liters.

There’s no denying that the mortality rate phenomenon is at least somewhat of an obesity issue. In the U.S., Japan and select industrialized European countries, the correlation between obesity rates and life expectancy is greater than 80% (refer to this chart and several others following the text ). Obesity is a disease and while it isn’t often listed as a “Cause of Death” the outcomes are deadly. Since the cardiovascular system is the number one affected area when someone is overweight, it should come as no surprise that more people die from heart attacks in the U.S. than in most other countries. For every 100,000 Americans, 129 die from a heart attack. The OECD average is 117, while in the “fit” countries of Japan and Korea heart attack fatalities occur in fewer than 40 out of 100,000 people.

As far as root causes, it’s a basic economic principle that people consume more of things that are cheaper, and food in the U.S. is relatively cheap compared to the rest of the world. The food component represents 14% of the Consumer Price Index (CPI), meaning that on average 14% of our total expenditures is spent on food.However, the “Food at home” component of the CPI is a mere 8%, and since most Americans eat most of their meals at home, this is likely a more logical number to use. In China and India, on the other hand, food weightings in their respective inflation indexes are 31% and 27%. Yes, this is clearly the result of lower incomes and food prices set to a large degree by global trends; the correlation/causation to consumption is still valid, however. The Chinese and Indians rank in the bottom 3 in terms of obesity rates, at 2.9% and 2.1%, respectively. As for more economically comparable countries, Canada (17% of CPI), Australia (17%), Italy (16%) and the U.K. (11%) have more similar food component cost weightings to the U.S.’s, and their citizens are substantially slimmer. Either way (economic or cultural explanation), mass industrialization of farms and food processing in the States has resulted in a dramatic lower food prices and an unmistakable trend to overconsumption.

Perhaps Americans work so much that we simply don’t have time to be active. After all, we work more than anyone else in the world, right? Wrong. We take less time off, but in terms of hours worked per week, we have it pretty good. At an average of 33.6 hours per week, Americans actually work less than the French (37.6 hours per week), who have a reputation for more slack work habits. People in the U.S. also work less than those in Japan (40.7 hours per week) and Turkey (49.7 hours per week), but the Japanese and Turkish have much lower obesity rates, as do the French.

However, while we work just as much as (if not more than) most other people, Americans take fewer vacation days. Including paid public holidays and voluntary vacation time, workers in the U.S. have an average of 25 days off per year. This compares with 40 in France, 36 in the U.K. and 31 in Italy, for example. Brazilians take the most time off (41 days), while Canadians take the least (19 days). Vacation time doesn’t appear to be correlated to obesity, but helps to validate the notion that Americans are among the hardest-working people in the world, even if hours worked are in line with other countries.

We’re left with a rather unspecific, and somewhat unsatisfying, conclusion that the obesity endemic in America is caused by broad cultural factors and personal responsibility issues. High-risk groups include African-American and Mexican-American women, who have respective obesity rates of 46% and 35%, and those in lower income groups. Women with lower levels of educational achievement are 1.3 times more likely to be obese, though virtually no disparity exists among men of varying education levels. And Southerners and Midwesterners carry more weight than their Northern and Western counterparts.

Nonetheless, 75% of Americans will be obese or overweight by 2020, according to OECD projections. We’ll have to see how the ongoing national health care debate plays out, but this undoubtedly means more government spending in terms of both preventative care and educational programs. In its food stamp program, the government has already begun educating recipients on nutrition, yet soft drinks, candy, cookies and ice cream are eligible items for purchase with food stamp benefits. I would expect this to change considering we’re on track to be 40% obese in the next decade, and likely even more government intervention will be necessary to curb some culturally-ingrained bad habits.

In an admittedly altruistic way, the U.S. government is a major enabler to the obesity problem. While we’re not debating the necessity of food stamps, they do provide incremental spending power, and the fact that lower-income people are more likely to be obese means that the government has a profound responsibility to ramp up nutritional education and hone in on the obesity problem. With +20% of households using food stamps, keep in mind that any policy shift will be significant for a wide swath of companies from supermarkets to producers of food.

So far government efforts have been mostly ineffective “nudges.” Policies enacted in the past few years that mandate calorie labeling in fast-food and chain restaurants have thus far had no impact on calorie consumption, according to a recently-published study (link below). While relying on people to use nutritional information to make healthier meal choices wasn’t effective, giving customers at a fast-food restaurant the option of downsizing their dishes did in fact work. About a third of customers opted for the smaller portion (versus less than 1% who asked to downsize on their own) and subsequently ate less. And accepting the downsized option had no effect on the amount of food uneaten at the end of the meal, translating into even more calorie savings. People in the study generally didn’t have the self-control to make smarter nutritional choices on their own, but it seems that some sense of self-control was activated when they were pushed to make healthier decisions.

With proof that intervention can in fact work, the Federal government has a role to play, whether it likes it or not. When you’re handing over money for food to 1 in 5 households and when about a third of all children are in notoriously non-nutritious subsidized school lunch programs, there’s certainly a moral responsibility.

Obesity is essentially the “Smoking” of the 21st century. And just as smoking rates were lessened thanks to government intervention, the obesity problem will need governmental action as well. Yes, it’s been written about countless times and there aren’t any immediate investment implications, but this topic is worth having in the back of your mind. The answers here are not as obvious as cigarette smoking; no one is going to back higher food taxes to reduce consumption. But the problem is significant and costly to the U.S. economy.

Link to study on effectiveness of calorie-labeling: http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/31/2/399.abstract

 

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Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:35 | 2291649 Silver Dreamer
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Again, stop focusing on calories.  It is not that simple.  What you eat is far more important than how many calories you consume.  I'm sorry that you were programmed to believe otherwise, but that's the truth.  Cut out the simple sugars and carbs, and you can consume however many effing calories you want--without gaining weight.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:05 | 2292194 TBT or not TBT
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Indeed.   Insulin production is the main thing causes fat cells to store fat, and to retain it(rather than releasing it for burning elsewhere).   Eating carbs causes insuling production.   Eating bacon cured without sugar DOES NOT cause insulin production in most people.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:42 | 2291681 Silver Dreamer
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It's not hard at all to consume 3000 calories of cheese, meat, bacon, etc.  I do it on a regular basis too yet continue to lose weight.  Before I changed what I ate, I was nearly 200 pounds.  Now I can eat all I want and I'm down to 181 with a target weight of 175.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:32 | 2291141 narapoiddyslexia
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Haub's study is specious. The people who eat that stuff do not stop at 1800 calories a day.

The test of Silver Dreamer's assertion is to have people who eat the crap Haub eats, limit themselves to healtty food.

The truth that I've seen is that people who eat healthy food eat less. It was true for me, anyway. When I stopped eating crap seven years ago I lost 30 pounds and it has stayed off.

Haub should study that, instead.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:49 | 2291207 Gully Foyle
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narapoiddyslexia

"It was true for me, anyway. When I stopped eating crap seven years ago I lost 30 pounds and it has stayed off."

Food or genetics kicking in?

I see a lot of cause and effect fallacy in regards to what people observe.

A few years ago I read an article discussing how some people "suddenly" look older, certain genes kick in and they start aging.

Why not with weight. Our bodies change consistently. We assume our physical makeup is static.

That isn't the case with Cancer.

I've seen people who are fat/thin when young then/thin/fat when older a reversal of their previous state. Who's to say that isn't genetic?

The real problem is we actually understand very little of the amazingly complex bodies we wear.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:38 | 2291661 Silver Dreamer
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Genetics definitely come into play as well, but the fact remains that our digestive systems were not designed to consume the massive amounts of carbs that most consume these days.  Those carbs get converted into fat as a process.  The opposite is true when you remove carbs from your diet.  Instead of storing fat, your body instead burns it.  The science behind it is not that complicated.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:27 | 2292079 TheGardener
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Yes, gullible foul .

Any healthy person could prove ANY change of diet in that
way.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:56 | 2291236 Dr. Engali
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That's the dumbest thing I've heard. I exercise regularly and I make sure my net daily calories don't go over 2,200. If I eat crap food like a burger then I just eat less of it or exercise more. Either way I get my net calorie count under 2,200. I'm 49 years old and have been doing this for years. My weight doesn't fluctuate by more than 5 lbs. So you can eat what you want but if you over do it you have to compensate by working it off.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:32 | 2291633 Silver Dreamer
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I used to exercise regularly, and it never helped me lose weight.  I'd run 40 minutes every other day without success.  It was what I was eating, not how much I was eating or how much I was exercising.  Look, you guys and believe whatever you want.  To each their own.  I can eat all of the steak, fat, and vegetables I want to eat, and I NEVER gain weight.  It is not simply how many calories you consume.  It is the type of calories you consume that is more important.  Stop focusing on your total calorie count, and focus instead on what you're eating.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:44 | 2291693 harami
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40 minutes every other day?  No wonder it didn't work.  I'll advocate diet is more important than exercise but to claim that was a serious effort to lose weight just isn't true.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:50 | 2291715 Silver Dreamer
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Harami, you made my point.  If you drink one soda, that's 40 minutes on a treadmill.  How about cutting the soda out of your diet instead and not having to exercise nearly at all?  Why the fuck would any of us want to spend hours a day exercising when simple choices in our diet would do the same thing?  Who has that time?  Why are people hell bent on doing things the hard way?  Change what you eat, and exercising to lose weight will no longer be a requirement.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:49 | 2291935 Overflow-admin
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Hey guys, it's not only the calories count (depends of individual metabolism)... YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT!

If you eat cornfed-beef / cereals you'll have excess omega-6 and lack omega-3 fatty acids (or alpha-linolenic if you prefer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-Linolenic_acid). For proper cell membrane function you need an appropriate ratio omega-6 to omega-3 (in the wild = 1:1, acceptable limit without health prejudice = 4:1, junk food regime > 25:1, corn = 40:1).

Omega-3 fatty acids are mainly found in VEGETABLES LEAFS; not in GRAIN. Please do me a favor, search portulacea omega-6 to omega-3 ratio and compare. It's a very healthy salad, but it's defoliated because some think it's weed. And yes, market value is a bitch. $50/kg in Switzerland. Better to grow it.

YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT, plus homo sapiens sapiens hasn't evolved since stone age. But his diet did - spectacularly last century... at his own detriment (chronic diseases, cardiovascular problems, etc.).

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:09 | 2292212 TBT or not TBT
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Um, INSULIN causes your fat cells to store fat.  Eating carbs causes your body to secrete insulin.    It is just about that simple after all the research is done, concering the great majority of breathing humans.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 18:50 | 2292446 smiler03
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"But his diet did - spectacularly last century... at his own detriment (chronic diseases, cardiovascular problems, etc.)."

 

But somehow our average lifespan has increased hugely. Next excuse please.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:32 | 2292096 TheGardener
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You're right. Craving for junk, even if you stuff yourself up with something else for a change , is what makes you gain weight.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 18:42 | 2292709 dugorama
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sorry, but Dr. Dug says you need an  hour a day, minimum, just for fitness maintenance.  or follow Karl Malone's lead and work out 6 to 8 hours a day and have 3% body fat.  and be able to play nba bassetball in your 40s

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:46 | 2291701 Silver Dreamer
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Haven't any of you heard of the glycemic index?  The Food Pyramid is a lie.  Deprogram yourself, and look up the truth.  Cut table sugar and all of its substitutes out of your diet along with almost all wheat.  Regardless of the total calorie count you consume, you WILL lose weight slowly over time once you do.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:18 | 2292249 TBT or not TBT
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Also cut corn, beer, and potatoes, and..wait for it... most of your fruit consumption.    Fructose is a simple sugar that our hunting and gathering ancestors only had limited access to and only seasonally. 

We (the species) evolved a sweet tooth and get pleasure from sweets and carbs, but these were not frequently nor of course ubiquitously available.   Our local wall mart has, several times of the year, literal walls of simple carbs you have to walk through to get into and out of the store.    They are pleasant to consume but they are a chemical emergency for our bodies, whiche react by pumpling insulin to signal the various tissues in the body how to react to the emergency.   Fat cells play a key role, absorbing the onslaught.     While we enjoy these for a good prehistorical reason, we are not designed to handle the constant massive carb loads we are offered with the cheap supply of agribusiness product we are eating.  

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:32 | 2290798 Eclipse89
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That's because people will be so poor they can only afford to buy junk-food @ McShit & Co.

Bernanke instead will keep eating healthy fish.

Come and get some!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:03 | 2290996 DosZap
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Eclipse89

That's because people will be so poor they can only afford to buy junk-food @ McShit & Co.

So true, the main reason for this obesity epidemic is people cannot AFFORD healthy foods.................

They are forced to eat the worst shit they can get, just to feed their families, couple that with no exercise................recipe for disaster.

Food we grew up with was all organic and straight from the fields,(and cheap) now the costs of vegetables, and lean meat are Astronomical.

While the crap that's killing America is the cheap crap.................junk food, and the worst cuts,choices available.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:22 | 2292268 TBT or not TBT
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Almost right.  

The poor(in the USA) CAN afford a burger at "McShit & Co".... and the meat, cheese, and vegetables in that are healthy eating.    It is the bun, the sugar in the sodas, the batter around the mcnuggets, the starch in the fries(but not the oil in the fries or mcnuggets) that are the fat generating part of the Mcmeal.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:33 | 2290800 bushwarcrime
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Root causes.......puh leeze?  Car culture.  Bigger is better.  Bulk shopping.  Sweet drinks from birth.  It goes on and on....

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:45 | 2290877 smb12321
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Thanks for a dose of common sense.  I'm sick and tired of all the excuses - corporate conspiracies, chemicals, McDonalds (is someone forced to eat there?), etc.   It's a cultural thing that unfortunately cannot be addressed in this PC saturated environment.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 16:25 | 2292283 TBT or not TBT
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Actually, it turns out the American Heart Association has been giving out deadly advice for decades on end, and most physicians bought this, not just the public, and the government.   Their initial research recommending low fat and low saturated fat diets is what they've run with, with disastrous public health results, and it is goddam hard for those who bought into all this to start saying the opposite.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:50 | 2290901 tarsubil
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I think it really is as easy as cutting out soda, ketchup (check it out, it is loaded with sugar), fries, and 1/2 your bread and you will not be fat.

Added bonus, you will not feel like crap all the time.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:23 | 2291342 Saro
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Right on. Cut out grains, refined sugars, and starchy vegetables, and you'll lose weight so fast you'll be shopping for new clothes every other week.

(30 lbs in two months, in my case.)

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:27 | 2291116 AmericanFUPAcabra
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BODY ALKALINITY. 

Sippin soda overtaxes your kidneys and other organs to keep your PH at 7.1. Soda=sugar+acid... like a Randy Savage flying elbow to the kidney. OH YEEEAH

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:35 | 2291154 Al Huxley
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Well said.  There's no mystery here.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:33 | 2290802 djsmps
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I'm 5'11" and weigh 160 lbs. I gained about 20 pounds when I quit smoking a couple of years ago. I had to diet to lose that and get to 160. I have no plans for obesity in the future.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:37 | 2290831 Quinvarius
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In Socialist AmeriKa, Obesity make plan for you.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:35 | 2291152 Gully Foyle
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djsmps

Ponder these. The problem is modern medical science is still in its infancy and really doesn't understand shit about the body and how intricately processes, foods, hormones, so on are llinked.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20110816/study-obese-people-live-as-long-...

Study: Obese People Live as Long as Slimmer People

Obese people who are otherwise healthy live as long as normal-weight people, new research from Canada suggests.

Some obese but healthy people actually are less likely to die of heart problems than normal-weight people who have some medical conditions, the researchers found.

"You shouldn't just look at body weight alone," says researcher Jennifer Kuk, PhD, assistant professor of kinesiology and health science at York University in Toronto.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/24/overweight_live_longer/

 

Cheerful news for those whose Body Mass Index (BMI) falls into the "overweight" range today - you will probably live longer than a person whose BMI is "ideal". Boffins in Canada and America revealed the new findings following a study of over 11,000 Canadians covering the last 12 years.

Unsurprisingly, people whose BMI showed them to be "underweight" or "extremely obese" died sooner than those in the more middle-of the-road brackets. But the medical community's consensus that anyone with a BMI from 25-30 is "overweight", whereas 18.5-25 is "ideal" has been undermined by the fact that survey subjects in the former, heftier band actually lived longer than the lightweights.

"It's not surprising that extreme underweight and extreme obesity increase the risk of dying, but it is surprising that carrying a little extra weight may give people a longevity advantage," said David Feeny, PhD, one of the study's authors.

Among the individuals tracked during the survey, the most dangerous BMI band to be in was "underweight"; next worst was "extremely obese". Both of these groups had significantly increased risks of dying, 70 and 36 per cent above the norm respectively. Those who were merely "obese" and those with an "ideal" BMI ran very similar risks of death. But the "overweight" were actually 17 per cent less likely than normal to die as time went by.

http://www.insure.com/articles/lifeinsurance/advantage-of-being-overweig...

If obesity is so bad, why do fat heart patients survive longer than their normal-weight counterparts?

Although obesity has been linked to a variety of health problems, such as hypertension, diabetes mellitus, renal disease, stroke and heart disease, a growing body of research is finding that obese people with those diseases actually live longer than normal-weight patients who are similarly afflicted.

It's called the “obesity paradox,” and while it has some doctors scratching their heads, experts point out that the paradox doesn't mean folks with heart problems should let themselves get fat. Instead, they say, the studies show it's time to approach the problem of obesity from a different angle.

Thin people don’t do so well after heart attacks

A 2010 study by the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry found that among patients who had already suffered a heart attack, non-obese people had a 76 percent increased risk of dying suddenly from cardiac causes than obese patients.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748884.html?_r=1

On average, healthy people lived 84 years. Smokers lived about 77 years and obese people lived about 80 years. Smokers and obese people tended to have more heart disease than the healthy people.

Cancer incidence, except for lung cancer, was the same in all three groups. Obese people had the most diabetes, and healthy people had the most strokes. Ultimately, the thin and healthy group cost the most, about $417,000, from age 20 on.

The cost of care for obese people was $371,000, and for smokers, about $326,000.

The results counter the common perception that preventing obesity will save health systems worldwide millions of dollars.

"This throws a bucket of cold water onto the idea that obesity is going to cost trillions of dollars," said Patrick Basham, a professor of health politics at Johns Hopkins University who was unconnected to the study. He said that government projections about obesity costs are frequently based on guesswork, political agendas and changing science.

"If we're going to worry about the future of obesity, we should stop worrying about its financial impact," he said.

http://www.insure.com/car-insurance/fat-guys-survive-car-crashes-better....

 

The study, by Dr. Michael Sivak and Dr. Jonathan Rupp, found that belted drivers with a body mass index (BMI) of 35 to 50 have a 22 percent lower probability of being killed in a crash than belted drivers with a BMI between 15 and 18.4.

BMI is a calculation based on weight and height, and the CDC uses it because, for most people, it correlates with their amount of body fat. Anyone with a BMI of 30 or more is considered obese. At 30 BMI, we're talking about someone who is 5-foot-9 and tips the scale in excess of 203. If your BMI is 45, you're hauling around more than 300 pounds at that height.

Ladies: This does not apply to you. Although rotund fellows fare better in serious accidents in which they are wearing a seatbelt, the same is not true for heavy women. Belted females with a BMI between 35 to 50 have a 10 percent higher probability of being killed in a crash than women with a normal BMI between 18.5 and 24.9, the study found.

Obese folk are at a disadvantage if they forego the seatbelt, the study found. Unbelted fat men had a 10 percent higher probably of dying than skinny guys who weren't belted. There was no statistically significant difference among BMI categories for unbelted women, although for belted females, those with a normal BMI had the lowest risk of being killed.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:33 | 2290804 SillySalesmanQu...
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Thou shall fatten the sheepie up up before leading them to slaughter.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:34 | 2290809 Ralph Spoilsport
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Bullshit. It's hard to get fat living on peanut butter and oatmeal. Things must not be bad enough yet if the sheeple can still afford Mickey D's.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:41 | 2290852 Zero Govt
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why don't you ration people then... don some jack boots and a uniform and join the Govts Goon Parade of health Nazis

we all need to be told what to eat, Nanny knows best right?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:44 | 2290874 Ralph Spoilsport
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???

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:52 | 2290923 Taint Boil
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?????

that needs about 5 question marks

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:58 | 2290964 zuuma
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EBT cards (foodstamps) work at Burger King, Mikkey Dee's & other similar bistros, now. It wouldn't be fair to deny those homeless ( ergo, kitchenless) sheep their Triple Whopper w/ cheese, now would it?

A tasty, filling installment plan for suicide.

The world has lotsa fat people & old people.

But there are almost no old, fat people.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:34 | 2290810 Zola
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Dont worry by 2020 the bond market will have imploded and this problem will be long forgotten

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:34 | 2290813 stopcpdotcom
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Think of all the lovely soylent green that can be made out of them.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:59 | 2290966 Gavrikon
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But how do we get Low Fat Soilent Green?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:26 | 2291352 UP Forester
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Easy.  You harvest the Japanese. 

Bonus:  They're already a glowing green!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:35 | 2290822 fonzannoon
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Fine i will say it.

"Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son".

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:54 | 2290935 tarsubil
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How about just drunk?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:35 | 2290826 Quinvarius
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Legalize cocaine and stop this madness!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:44 | 2290871 Rainman
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NO...cook all meat in bacon grease with butter and make SS solvent .

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:49 | 2290903 Quinvarius
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Cocaine and bacon.  There is a hip restaurant idea in there somewhere.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:56 | 2290955 Waterfallsparkles
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Believe it or not Bacon and butter are good for you and can be used to lose weight.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/470126-what-are-the-benefits-of-beef-b...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:00 | 2290977 MsCreant
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Yes!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:01 | 2290982 Gavrikon
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As, apparently is Coconut Oil (pure virgin, non-hydrogenized).

It sure makes my popcorn taste good!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:22 | 2291262 perelmanfan
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Very few in America - except those who follow paleo/primal principles - understand that natural saturated fats like butter, coconut oil and lard are good for you, IF EATEN IN THE CONTEXT OF A LOW CARB DIET. I lost 20 pounds I'd struggled with for 20 years by shunning sugar and grains and embracing butter and coconut oil, which helped keep me feeling full and solved a long-standing eczema problem, too. The problem with most legislation around this issue is that it misses this point.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:59 | 2290970 MsCreant
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If you don't eat a lot of sugar with that, no big deal. It is not fat that clogs the arteries, it is inflammation. Inflammation occurs when you send your endocrine system on a wild roller coaster ride by flooding it with sugar.

I do my best mentally and physically with protein, veggies, and a lil fruit. Can even cheat with a small serving of ice cream from time to time if I take out all the rest of the sugar and starch.

Meat cooked in bacon grease and butter is actually okay, if not coupled with a constant bombardment of sugar.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:54 | 2291180 Gully Foyle
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MsCreant

"If you don't eat a lot of sugar with that, no big deal. It is not fat that clogs the arteries, it is inflammation."

Yes.

"Inflammation occurs when you send your endocrine system on a wild roller coaster ride by flooding it with sugar."

I don't agree with that. It is far more likely that bacteria and what not is slipping in to foods during the manufacturing process. Doctors make assumptions on what they perceive, to the best of mu knowledge no docotr has spoken to the mainetnace guys at food processing facilities. No one has asked them the frequency and effectiveness of their cleaning process.

I understand with Chickens and PCB's, quite a few growers buy stale bread and grind the plastic with the bread for feed, that Chickens were tested in lots of 100k. That is a failry large lot size.

I also recall an article from a few years ago stating there would be a rise in Alzheimers due to Prions in meats.

What we really need is a top to bnottom review and regular sampling of any food processing facility.

It's easy to pick the simple target like sugar or starch, but takes much more effort to actually define what the source is.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:56 | 2291239 FreeNewEnergy
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I think the problem is pretty obvious:

Notably, Americans both drink and smoke less than much of the industrialized world...

I'm 58, smoke close to two packs a day (natural tobacco, roll my own and this summer will grow my own), drink heartily and often to excess, spend a lot of time in front of a computer, but still make time for golf, tennis and bike riding. I'm 5'11 and 190. I was 225, when I started the candida diet (see thecandidadiet.com) and eliminated all sugar and yeast products. Lost 12 pounds the first week and now am moderating with occasional sugars and yeasts (beer and maybe some crackers here and there). Quit coffee, which I thought would be tough, cold turkey. Didn't even flinch. So, I'm about 10 pounds overweight, but that will change once the weather breaks warmer and I am out doing things more.

A book called "Younger Next Year" by Chris Conley (Younger Next Year Official Website | Chris Crowley) is a valuable read, no matter what age you are.

Here's the kicker. A lot of my friends have been stunned at how healthy I look and I've told them about these two simple sources of reference. NOT A SINGLE ONE has looked into either, and yes, THEY ARE ALL OVERWEIGHT OR OBESE.

Fend for yourself and screw everyone else. You'll live longer, and happier, too.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:16 | 2291066 Waterfallsparkles
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That is the problem with food like bacon and butter.  The food industry trys to get you to switch from wholesome natural food to substitutes that are not good for you.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:37 | 2290828 Ruffcut
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When the aliens return, we will be  ready for their dinner table. The real people good mood food.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:56 | 2290951 AgShaman
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"How to Serve Man"

....pretty good Twilight Zone episode

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:36 | 2290830 homer8043
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There's no doubt America is getting fatter. However, these overweight and obesity statistics are overblown for a couple reasons. One, they do not take into account muscle mass and body fat percentage which skews the results for the US more than other countries. And two, the limits are set arbitraily to make the numbers as high as possible to get as much fnding as possible for whatever research and/or cause.

Yes, the trend is correct but the stats are too high.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:36 | 2291157 Dingleberry
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I'm not fat....when I'm hedonically adjusted.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:38 | 2290833 Zero Govt
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normally calling someone fat or "fatty" in the playground is rude

but putting toerags in Govt and giving them a 'health' mandate they're allowed to do this at national level with the megaphones of unfiltered zombie journalism

this is progress? ...or do some never know when/how to mind their own business

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:38 | 2290839 JustObserving
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If 75% will be obese by 2020, at least 50% will be diabetic.  Your heallthcare costs will triple assuming you can get health insurance.  It is processed food, BPA and other chemical toxins,  GMO foods, trans fats, MSG, pesticides among other factors.  However, you can easily avoid diabetes and obesity by a few simple steps:

http://diabetesrisk.net/

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:41 | 2290857 smb12321
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Yes, but 90% of the problem is round the clock eating of junk along with zero exercise.  Cut portions, snacks and sugar and increase movement and the problem will begin correcting.  We're so afraid to say anything about weight due to BS about feelings yet all of use will pay for the incurred diseases.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:13 | 2291050 Moneyswirth
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Absolutley correct...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:01 | 2291984 TBT or not TBT
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mmmm no.   Fat people earn their diabetic and pre-diabetic condition by eating too much starchy food for too long.   Eating starchy foods is what causes insulin to be produced, which is what causes excess sugar to be mopped up and stored as fat.   This system gets worn out.   The fatties develop "insulin resistance".

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:09 | 2291034 Moneyswirth
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The sheeple are being told that the new healthcare law will provide for all of their health needs.  "Kids" will be insured up until 26 years of age.  Senior citizens will continue to be covered by Medicare and the poors will be covered by Medicaid.  Obamacare was designed to buy the votes of everyone who doesn't fall into those categories.

So why should the sheeple give a crap about health care costs?  The gubmint is giving it to them for free.  In exchange for your vote of course.

So eat up Amerika---feast on your Hot Pockets (tm), super sized fries and Triple Whoppers with extra bacon, washed down with 1/2 gallon of soda pop.   Uncle Sam will pick up the tab...

Yay Amerika!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:11 | 2291042 Moneyswirth
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Or as Wilfred Brimley would say...."diabeetus"

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:33 | 2291142 AmericanFUPAcabra
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You can still buy candy, soda, ice cream, doritos n corndogs on EBT / SNAP in just about any state. They want everyone fat and unhealthy so ObammyCare can stick it in my already gaping-taxhole.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:37 | 2290840 crawldaddy
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bullish on the scooter things

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:59 | 2290975 t_kAyk
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bullish for biscuits and gravy

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:14 | 2291305 Charles Bishop ...
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 bullish on XXXL "sportswear"and artificial knees....

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:38 | 2290843 smb12321
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Two factors:  Societal acceptance of obesity as a "way of life".  Japan has an active cultural dislike of fat that is reflected in thei extraordinary thinness. Old ideas about weight and personal responsibility (much less civic pride, health costs, etc) have given way to PC babble about hurt feelings.

Second, food is more plentiful than ever before and the cheapest stuff is the worst - pasta, rice, potatoes, sugar, etc.   Add a sedentary society and it's not difficult to fathom the causes.  What's embarrassing is picking out Americans on international cruises by their waddle.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:41 | 2290860 akuacumen
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Being fat is the new normal in the US.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:43 | 2290870 Zero Govt
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being called "fatty" and obese across national media is the new normal in the US

it's not the big people i'm worried about, it's the big gobs

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:10 | 2291041 kekekekekekeke
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So true, it's amazing how perceptions are so skewed, people thinking they look "normal" when they're 30-40lbs overweight just because they can load up the cart at Wal-Mart without a motorized scooter

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:38 | 2290845 alexwest
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#
Consider some wacky “all-American” dining options. Burger King’s Manhattan Whopper Bar offers an aptly-named “Pizza Burger”– a ginormous cheeseburger accentuated by pepperoni and chopped into 6 slices. Denny’s spices up the classic but boring grilled cheese by driving 4 mozzarella sticks into the already gooey cheddar goodness (Fried Cheese Melt). An
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i vomited..

believe or not, I've never been in mcjunk joint..
thanks parents for upbringing..

alx

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:03 | 2291995 TBT or not TBT
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The main problem with these menu items is the bread, for most humans, and not just fat ones.   We evolved over millions of years on low carb diets with lots of saturated fat.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:40 | 2290853 George Orwell
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This is another reason why there will not be a third American revolution.  The American people are too fat and lazy to revolt.  Unlike France which have almost weekly demonstrations on something.  

Ever seen fat people protesting?  Occupying wall street?  Running around throwing Molotov cocktails?  No you don't.  Fat people do not participate in civil disobedience.  

 

George Orwell

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:57 | 2290930 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Where are americans going to protest?  The U.S. infrastructure was built for......automobiles.  People are not going to commute 30 minutes to protest, where would they go?  Is there free parking?  

American slaves regularly congregate in large numbers with shitty attitudes and excess rage...........in traffic jams.  

Americans are willing to "revolt", we saw it not too long ago....................at gas stations lol

 

FREEEEEEEDUMB!

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:02 | 2290976 JustObserving
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It's just not the fat - it is also fluoride.  Who adds a toxix substance known to reduce IQ and harm the brain to try to help save half a tooth (typical gain from adding to water)? Besides, you can use fluoride toothpaste much more safely and effectively.

"sodium fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain, and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. Both the Germans and the Russians added fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

"According to Chemical Engineering News in 1988, each year in the United States, 80,000 tons of hydrofluosilicic acid, 60,000 tons of sodium silicofluoride and 3,000 tons of sodium fluorides are put into public water supplies"

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd102.htm

Calgary removed fluoride from its water supply last year

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:06 | 2291008 kekekekekekeke
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exactly.  I got a Berkey water filter with added fluoride filters a couple of months ago, I HIGHLY recommend it

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:25 | 2291102 GeezerGeek
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Back in the 1960s, on the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour (or whatever it was named), Dick Smothers stated that Cleveland added flouride to its water supply in 1875 (or somewhere in that timeframe), but that not one of the people alive at the introduction of flouride was still alive. 

No telling if there was any truth to any of what he said, but it made for a good joke.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:41 | 2290863 Race Car Driver
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While perhaps informative regarding cause and effect of obesity problems in the US - calls for more .gov to provide the solution was a bit underwhelming and a (not so) cheap way out.

I gave it a 2.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:42 | 2290867 Quinvarius
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The answer to this is more DHS VIPER teams.  Not really.  But I am pretty sure they will try that anyway.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:30 | 2291125 GeezerGeek
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Maybe those FEMA camps will soon be turned into mandatory weight-loss camps.

More seriously, but equally unlikely: pass a law forbidding obesity-related health problems from being covered by health insurance, Medicare/Medicaid, or treated for free. There should be consequences for being irresponsible.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:43 | 2290869 Dingleberry
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"In America, even the poor people are fat"

 

-wannabe immigrant from Africa

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:57 | 2291966 zerozulu
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Let me correct. In America only poor people are FAT.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 17:32 | 2292489 smiler03
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So do lots of poor Americans come and holiday in Europe? According to your theory they must do because fat Americans abound over here.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:50 | 2290887 Monedas
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What is this ?  I want Zero Oprah !   Monedas  2012    Greed is good !   Starving kids is bad !  MSM go fuck off !

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:46 | 2290889 Alcoholic Nativ...
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We need more episodes of "The Biggest Loser" on prime time T.V.  at night to wake america up to this epidemic.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:46 | 2290890 Decolat
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Time to bring back Dexatrim.

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:47 | 2290891 Taint Boil
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Damn, this is making me hungry!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:47 | 2290892 Overflow-admin
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YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT.

end quote.

STUPID!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:48 | 2290897 Overflow-admin
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In other words, you ARE cornbeef.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:41 | 2292115 TBT or not TBT
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mmm no.   Fat people are corn, cane sugar, potatoes, maltose(from beer), wheat, etc..and not a little fructose.    Starches cause insulin production which causes fat storage.  When insulin is around fat cells retain the fat they have and reaborb whatever does get released.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:52 | 2290917 HD
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SO MANY JOKES....

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:53 | 2290894 maynard
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This is argument by anecdote. Further, it's not likely the food that's the cause of the US obesity epidemic:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3081766/?tool=pubmed

 

Our findings reveal that large and sustained population increases in body weights can occur in mammalian populations, just as they have occurred among human populations, even in the absence of those factors that are typically conceived of as the primary determinants of the human obesity epidemic via their influence on diet (e.g. access to vending machines) and physical activity (e.g. less physical education classes in schools). Though results were not statistically significant in every population (11 out of 24 are statistically significant for per cent increase in weight per decade, and 7 out of 24 are statistically significant for odds of obesity), viewed as an ensemble, the fact that nearly all independent time-trend coefficients were in the positive direction for both weight gain and for the odds of obesity, is overwhelmingly statistically significant.


That large population level changes in body weight distributions of mammalian populations can occur even when those populations are neither under obvious selection by predation nor are living with or among humans has been documented [15]. The particular upward trend we have observed towards obesity in multiple datasets of non-human animals has been suggested by anecdotal evidence for some time. A 2008 news report indicated that ‘trends in pet insurance are mirroring human healthcare. Obesity… is a growing problem for dogs and cats… (and 2007) saw a 19 per cent increase in claims related to obesity’ (http://www.petfirsthealthcare.com/2008/02/07/petfirst-pet-insurance-to-be-more-popular-in-2008/). According to a recent review by German [16], ‘Most investigators agree that, as in humans, the incidence of obesity in the pet population is increasing’. Despite this strong sentiment that obesity rates are increasing in pets (note that the United States Food and Drug Administration recently approved the first drug to treat obesity in dogs; Food and Drug Administration, 2007), we were unable to find previously published data actually showing this increase.

 


Others reported that 19 per cent of horses in a large cohort were obese, even among largely pasture-fed animals. Although a direct comparison with a similarly sampled earlier cohort was not available, the investigators remarked that the levels were higher than a 5 per cent rate observed in an earlier study [17]. Similarly, an increase in body weights was observed among rats used in carcinogenicity studies in France between 1979 and 1991, despite similar husbandry conditions [18]. The authors attributed the increase to the introduction of animals of the same substrain but raised under specific pathogen-free conditions, reinforcing the perspective that the presence of viral or other microbial pathogens [19,20] may affect body weight in populations either positively or negatively, depending on the pathogen. It is also noteworthy that the obesity epidemic has also occurred among children of six months of age and under [21], an age group for which explanations involving food marketing, less physical education is schools, and more labour-saving devices seem questionable.<p>

[...]

One set of putative contributors to the human obesity epidemic is the collection of endocrine-disrupting chemicals (endocrine-disruptors), widely present in the environment [24]. Another conceivable explanation is obesity of infectious origin. Infection with adenovirus-36 (AD36) leads to obesity in multiple experimental models [7,25] and antibodies to AD36 are correlated with obesity in humans [26]. These observations suggest that AD36 and conceivably other infectious agents could be contributing to obesity within populations. Other explanations may include epigenetic-mediated programming of growth and energy-allocation patterns owing to any number of environmental cues such as stressors, resource availability, release from predation or climate change [27–31].

 

 

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:00 | 2290979 Overflow-admin
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Go for a med check and try to figure out your omega-6 to omega-3 ratio (these are ESSENTIAL fatty acids, your body CAN'T synthetize them). If you are 4:1 or more, you're in trouble. Oh, whole occidental population is in trouble? Too bad to listen to cornbeef lobbyists, STUPID!

 

Ah, just a side-note: when you do a scientific research, you try not to pollute your control groups! Oh, you can't find a clean control group? FIND A TIME TRAVELING MACHINE, PROBLEM SOLVED. NOT!

 

Climate change -> obesity: BEST. FUCKING. INSANE. THEORY. EVER!!!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:35 | 2291022 maynard
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You neither read the quoted material nor the study in question. There were mice studied since 1948. The study did not claim global climate change was a core contributor to obesity. Nor did it claim that endocrine disruptors is the cause. Or anything else. Instead, what it claims is that a range of animals that don't eat consumer foods are also gaining weight, and did so by normalizing studies across animal groups and several decades.

Read before you retort.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 14:37 | 2291886 Cathartes Aura
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I don't want to contribute to this thread, but I wanted to let you know your post was read, and that it has been my point - pets diagnosed with diabetes, on the steep rise, as are the maintenance DRUGS prescribed to them - insulin injections, etc.

THAT'S THE TELL.

GMO-corn gluten, in everything, padding out the ingredients, check the labels of pet foods, as well as GMO soy, which creates phytoestrogens - we already know GMO is ubiquitous in corporate human fud, and as usual, it's the human companions that are bearing the brunt of low quality food substitutes and inattention to what gets marketed, sold and consumed.  also, pets are served the same water as humans mostly, and it's toxic over time if it comes from the tap.

appreciate your post.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:47 | 2292131 TBT or not TBT
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Again, carbs from industrial agriculture are the cheapest food calorie supplies, so they find their way into pet food, not just human food.

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 19:08 | 2292808 maynard
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Then why are pasture fed horses also seeing the same shift in weight gain over time? Presumably, there's no manufactured simple carbodyfrates and GMO ingredients in the grasses free range animals are fed on pasture. This does not discount that poor quality food may be one cause. But clearly, for outcomes like this to be true as well, there must be other - as yet determined - cofacters involved.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:48 | 2290896 Catullus
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Always looking at the extremes and saying "is there any surprise people are fat". Yes. It's still surprising. People aren't eating that stuff on a daily basis. So something else is making them fat.

Purhaps it's something that people are eating a lot of in this country: carbs. High fructose corn syrup. Whole grains (not healthy, just a bunch of a bullshit. Animals won't eat whole grains.) "Fruit" drinks. Anything with "soy" in it. That 600 calorie coffee in the morning. Bullshit oils like vegetable, corn, grape seed, and peanut oil. Meat filled with slime. Hormone pumped chicken, beef, and pork. Even store bought eggs have a sickly looking yoke.

Try going off processed grains for a week and you go into withdrawal. It's really quite amazing.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:04 | 2291005 Overflow-admin
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Uh? Someone not mentally incapacitated by diet? How do you do? Live in the woods?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:07 | 2291021 kekekekekekeke
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Totally agreed, going off grains has made me feel so much better

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 13:41 | 2291676 RallyRoundTheFamily
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No strain of rat or mice is naturally obese, so the scientists have to create them. They make these morbidly obese creatures by injecting them with a chemical when they are first born. The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas creates, causing rats (and humans?) to become obese They even have a title for the race of fat rodents they create: "MSG-Treated Rats" .

http://www.medicalcorps.org/fat-rat.htm

http://www.rense.com/general52/msg.htm

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:48 | 2290898 GrumpyChicken
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75% obese by 2020!  Yikes, clearly the solution to this dilemma is to crash the economy so that the sheeple are basically forced to live off whatever weeds they can find growing in their front yard.  Then everyone will be super model thin in no time at all! 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:48 | 2290899 Waterfallsparkles
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I truly do not blame the Americans.  I blame the food regulators for allowing all of the stuff they can put into our food.

I bought Balogona the other day and looked on the label and it had corn syrup in it.  In a Meat product no less.

The food Company's inject our foods with all kinds of things.  Just look a Ham and you will see they inject it with salt and water to preserve it and to sell you water labeled as Ham.

Just check out the label on any prepared food.  Like some of the Frozen Banquet, Hungry Man or other frozen meals.  Lots of Sugar and Salt.

With both the Husband and Wife working they buy prepared foods to save time when preparing Dinner.  We are being sold down the river by the Food Manufacturers.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:05 | 2291012 Overflow-admin
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An angry food manufacturer junked you. Fixed.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:08 | 2291026 kekekekekekeke
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I agree that it's the food regulators doing all thes terrible things but in this age with all the info available on the internet there is NO excuse

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:30 | 2291124 Waterfallsparkles
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When I was first Married once a Woman had a Child she stayed Home and raised the Child.  She cooked from scrach everything.  From mashed potatoes made from raw potatoes, biscuits, cakes, home made bread, etc.  It took a lot of time to fix dinner. There were no prepared foods.  I remember when the first TV Dinner came out (boy am I dating myself), it was a really big deal which was put into the oven for about an hour.  Remember we did not have Microwaves then.  Most Women would take a break once a week and serve the new fad TV dinners once a week. 

Hard to believe that it was only 40 years ago we did not have preprepared foods or Microwaves.  But, I do not think that we have advanced as far as the quality of the food we eat.  In fact every day we find out that what we are eating is not healthy for us and that we are being fed all kinds of things with tons of additives that most of us cannot even pronounce.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:36 | 2291159 kekekekekekeke
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I would so much rather stay in and make all my meals (still haven't perfected pho so do make exceptions) and I think EVERYONE should learn to cook and do it frequently even if it's just something simple, organic eggs fried in coconut oil, but it's hard when you're with people who LOVE to go out to eat... there is hardly anything worth eating out there.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:26 | 2291094 Dr. Engali
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How about a little personal responsibility? Stop eating proccessed foods or eat less of them . Either way Americans gorge themselves like pigs and throw away so much food it's disgusting. It's ridiculous to blame the food companies when Americans are demanding what they are serving.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:39 | 2291165 Dingleberry
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Food doesn't kill people.....forks do. PUT DOWN THE FORK!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:48 | 2290902 Abiotic Oil
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Standing in line at the gorcery store awhile back.  Non-english speaking woman with her 7 non-english speaking children "buying" "food" with food stamps.  "Food" consisted of high fructose corn syrup artfully blended with refined carbs and hydrogenated oils.  Pure uncut obesity and disease.

Not only do I get to pay my taxes for their "food" but I also will get to pay for their medical care as their bodies fall apart under the stress of obesity and malnutrition.

Doritos and soda #winningthefuture.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:21 | 2291086 Idiocracy
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Refined sugar (including HFCS), is esentially poison to the liver.  And that's what is causing the obesity epidemic.

See Dr. Lustig's lecture for the fascinating details: www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Any time an 80 minute lecture on biochemistry gets more than 2 million views on Youtube, something important is going on.

You know how we look back on the ancient Romans and say "It's a shame, they didn't realize that the lead in their plumbing was making them crazy, and thus the decline".  Well sometime in the future historians might be saying about 20-21st Century Americans that they didn't realize sugar was deforming them.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:54 | 2291233 Abiotic Oil
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Don't eat like a scavenger.  Eat like the apex predator that you are (supposed to be).

The Warrior Diet with Controlled Fatigue Training is awesome.

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:50 | 2290910 Schmuck Raker
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"We're going to need a bigger boat."

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:15 | 2291060 Moneyswirth
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Hahaha

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:50 | 2290911 HD
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When it takes a wheelbarrow of cash to buy a single loaf of bread - that will solve Americas obesity problem real quick.

Ben will print your way to a slimmer waistline.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:53 | 2292148 TBT or not TBT
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No, only cannabilism would cause ketosis to kick in at full fat burning power.   As long as bread and other starch sources are the cheapest food available(fat and proteing being more expensive), humans will store the starches they obtain from such foods as fat.    It's the insulin production that does that.   No way around that.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:50 | 2290913 BobPaulson
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I am a running zealot but have often been told that such a lifestyle is just as unhealthy as being fat. It could be true actually, I've never investigated it since I do it for the benefit of how I feel.

One thing I am curious about is whether a person who is fat or smokes has higher lifetime healthcare costs than a healthy person, or these days with our society seemingly unprepared to let old folks die peacefully, does every person incur the same aggregate cost, just over a different lifespan? I know I am biased to think my choices are better. Anybody have hard data on this out there?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:13 | 2291052 MsCreant
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No data. I have friends who are docs who break it down like this:

You either incur costs with internal medicine for diabetes, heart, kidney, liver etc.

Or

You generate them with orthapedic bills (joints, new knees, broken bones etc.)

Add in the occassional accident (my husband has been hit by a car on his bike, we have both been to the ER for broken bones from sporting injuries, dental) and you do, indeed start to wonder.

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:23 | 2291096 BobPaulson
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So far I suffered more with cycling because the falls can be so nasty. I did ironman a few years back but after very ugly clavicle break I just run. Born To Run (the book) got me thinking about whether humans are cut out for running (I concluded they are). I did an 80 mile race in the Rockies this past summer using the Born To Run advice of landing on the balls of your feet, and recovered fairly well.

In Canada where I live healthcare is covered by the government, so this question about what keeps costs down is very political. Which has the most cost? Drinking? Smoking? Driving a motorcycle? (though that keeps the organ bank topped up) Eating a McDonalds?

Another thing that is inflating fast, and skews the data, is the tail end of the cost normal distribution for procedures that are hugely expensive and driven by research that mostly extend the lives of older rich folks. In a private system, I bet that is growing even faster as the older folks have more money that lower-middle class kids for example. Of course, if you are an older richer person, you are probably going to choose to get expensive procedures - I hear India is the place to go now for that.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:31 | 2291134 Jim in MN
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Until we have Brazilian (or Indian) health centers and Beijing University outlets open in every city in the US we are, simply, screwed.

 

 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:54 | 2292158 TBT or not TBT
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On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero....    Someone had to say it here, of course.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:19 | 2291077 Overflow-admin
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I don't have any hard data supporting my claims, but logic says:
- If you're unhealthy, fat, you'll have all the chances of getting chronic diseases
- If you're healthy, fit, you don't have a chance of chronic disease (except inherited)
- Wherther you're fit or fat, accidents and passing diseases can happen -> excluding these from analysis.

Any questions? No need to guess costs of chronic disease treatments, especially when you "heal" the symptoms, not the causes.

BTW I bet you'll have hard time finding data on "healthy" persons. Control groups are all contaminated. Fukumanity bitchez.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:28 | 2291119 kekekekekekeke
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Have you considered switching to intervals like 20 seconds sprint 40 seconds walking? That might be easier on your body.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:52 | 2290915 somethingelse
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Gives a whole new meaning to the expression "living off the fat of the land" doesn't it

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:52 | 2290919 tony bonn
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lots of factoids here but little truth or analysis....

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:56 | 2290927 Normalcy Bias
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Bullish for Pink Slime!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:53 | 2290929 Hulk
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One half of all Americans are either pre-diabetic or diabetic.

Next time a government offers up a diet recommendation, just say "no thanks",

I'll stick to what my ancestors have been eating for thousands of years...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:00 | 2290971 BobPaulson
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I always go back to that kind of analysis myself too. I trust what a million years of evolution have done, not what 5 years of lab tests on rats say. It makes you want to be an organic farmer actually, but wouldn't have the skill or patience to produce my own food.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:09 | 2291029 Jim in MN
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Humans didn't farm in the Paleolithic.  Fruits, nuts, meat, leafy greens.  Grains questionable, not a staple.  Legumes (beans) were harvested as available. 

Organ meat and bugs, there's your nutritional payoff.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:42 | 2291181 BobPaulson
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When I lived in Mexico I was never man enough to eat the grasshoppers. Looks like they have lots of fibre. I agree on the grains - rice is now one of the major causes of diabetes in asia.

It's funny how our drive to develop technologies to increase food production make our situation worse by taking us futher away from our evolved digestive capabilities while enabling greater overpopulation.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 15:58 | 2292173 TBT or not TBT
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I'll stick to what my ancestors have been eating for thousands of years...

Hopefully your ancestors were remote tribes or "indians" then, because my ancestry over the last few thousand years has been eating lots of carbs from a thing called "agriculture".    I'd have to go back several thousand years, before which the count turns to "millions" of years.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:54 | 2290932 Antifaschistische
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Being considered obese is the first step to becoming "disabled"

Being considered "disabled" is the first step to securing a monthly government paycheck

Being "disabled" will help you become a skootersite (parasites that ride around on government paid for skooter chairs that keep fatty's from ever having to do evil things like WALK!!)

At least the Patriot Nurse says these individuals will die first in a Stage 10 SHTF Event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J42CLa5iATM

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:53 | 2290933 blunderdog
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Fat people COST LESS.  This is a counterintuive fact borne out by the statistics.

The simplest way to think of it is this: the real medical expense for *everyone* is the dying bit.  It costs about $2 million to die on Medicare.

EVERYONE DIES.

So the best way to save healthcare costs is for people ...

1) To die before they reach Medicare age
2) To die as soon as possible after reaching Medicare age
3) To die of a "sudden-death" event such as 1st heart-attack rather than cancer

SO enjoy those fries, everyone.  Think of the children!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 18:19 | 2292624 smiler03
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Well said! The same applies to smokers but smokers are even better, they pay taxes on their habit before dying young :O)

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:55 | 2290943 Dr. Engali
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Fattened pigs can't fight back and they can't get away.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:12 | 2291044 slackrabbit
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But they're like zombies, wait till they see you eating a twinkie

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:15 | 2291061 Dr. Engali
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That's why you need some serious zombie repellent. The larger the caliber the better.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:05 | 2290944 Monedas
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North Korea has only one fat person ! Kim Il Un or whatever his name is ! I didn't hear Michelle congratulating them for their healthy diet !   Monedas  2012   Visit charming Pyongyang !  We'll leave THE light on for ya !

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 10:58 | 2290968 lolmao500
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Good, Americans will have food reserves when TSHTF.. bullish for survival!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:00 | 2290984 Jim in MN
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Taco Bell is not The Bomb.  Only The Bomb is The Bomb.

 

The best microwave burrito from SA/convenience stores.  It's about 1200 calories, can be eaten in about 3 minutes.  Goddamn tasty...add in some potato chips and a soda, 2500-3000 calorie meal.

 

Taco Bell is TOO SLOW for proper obesity. 

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:02 | 2290993 ISEEIT
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Obese?

Not a problem.

Check out the 'commander and chief'.

What a dear leader.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sugexp=frgbld&gs_nf=1&cp=12&gs_id=22&...

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:03 | 2290999 lolmao500
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Don't worry, Obamacare will save you all!

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:07 | 2291023 Joe Davola
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How're we supposed to fix Social Security without smoking and obesity?

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:10 | 2291039 slackrabbit
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Fat Zombies are slower, this is good for prepers

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:12 | 2291046 mikesswimn
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WTF? 75%? Who did their math?  What bullshit.  Oh, wait, nevermind, I get it:

"I would expect this to change considering we’re on track to be 40% obese in the next decade, and likely even more government intervention will be necessary to curb some culturally-ingrained bad habits."

Ahhh, there it is.

Mon, 03/26/2012 - 11:14 | 2291056 Joe Davola
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Much like the CPI and Unemployment Rate, once you control the definition, the results can be made to match whatever outcome you'd like.

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