"No Fly Zone" Over Syria Imminent?

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surf0766's picture

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Conrad Murray's picture

Food for thought...

Brzezinski:

how America ‘manages’ Eurasia is critical… A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world’s three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa’s subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world’s central continent. About 75 per cent of the world’s people live in Eurasia, and most of the world’s physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world’s GNP and about three-fourths of the world’s known energy resources.

Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power to cause a potentially important shift in the international distribution of power and to decipher the central external goals of their respective political elites and the likely consequences of their seeking to attain them;… second, to formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or control the above

 

General Wesley Clark

As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia, and Sudan


New_Meat's picture

Con: ya gotta be kidding all of us!  Quoting Zbiggie?  And, if you've ever walked through the five-sided-puzzle-palace, you'd know that they have contingency plans for Private Smith to take a crap in <undisclosed location> in concert with all of the other privates named Smith, within 4 seconds TOT, at a time not earlier than 3 1/2 years from now.

- Ned

Mr Lennon Hendrix's picture

Reading Zbig is a must:  It is perinent to know what the enemy is doing.

surf0766's picture

Isn't it amazing. We are assisting to create that which seeks to destroy us. Can they really join all the MENA countries together?

sitenine's picture

Umm, lest we forget:

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-18/europe/30414010_1_western...

We are talking about the possibility of a global military event at this point folks.  Krugman must be salivating - the sick bastard...

trav7777's picture

Russia and China will not act if the Arabs impose this.  Politically, they really can't interfere that strongly in a local matter

sitenine's picture

I agree with that assessment, but there are externalities and tensions beyond what I would consider normal here.  I wouldn't go so far as to state or imply that anything is imminent at this point.  Good prudence seems to be lacking though, and there is great potential for misunderstandings and undesired conflict under these kinds of circumstances.

Coronal Mass Ejaculation's picture

See that's the problem though. It will have all the "appearances" of the Arabs "imposing" it when it fact they are mere puppets to the Western Superpowers...and China/Russia will have to decide if they play ignorantly along...or call the bluff...

philipat's picture

They are even more corrupt than the US?

Element's picture

But as a proxy, they can interfere, like the major powers they are, or else wish to thus become.

Russia and China will be sitting there and to them it will look just like a reverse Domino Effect on their southern borders and 'their' immediate strategic airspace. It will look like something that's much more sinister than the MSM asserts.

They will NOT sit on their hands in the face of this, in the very same way that we wouldn't, either.

Georgia was a warning and NATO didn't care to listen, so another more compelling proxy example is necessary.

As Robert McNamara said, you have to 'empathise' with an enemy to understand them, to grasp what they will do in order to avoid a miscalculation that leads to an otherwise unexpected or unforeseen strategic war ... or a proxy-war ... between major power interests.

Likewise; you don't let your opponent out of his corner when you have him on the ropes.

Dreams of more-or less leaving Afghanistan in 2014 are fantasy, because these have NATO on the ropes ... this is the fight they WANTED ... and it is going to increasingly be a proxy fight.

Russians and the Chinese do not want the military analogue/counterpart of Wall Street on their border - PERIOD.

And they will do all necessary to remove it and eliminate it.

So far it's all been an extremely unimpressive and absurd/pathetic insurgency skirmish, with typical US overkill tactics in the middle East, against stuff-all real opposition, and no REALLY BIG casualties, since Sept 11 ... but that's going to change, because a real fight, between big powers, via proxy, is now almost certain.

The continuing utter stupidity of the thoroughly idiotic and bankrupt reasoning for being in the area and killing so many of the outraged occupied locals is also a big part of why this MUST occur. 

The other big powers are thus forced to demoralise, punish and bleed NATO, else like a bankster who's never punished, they "absolutely will not stop"

 

And if US/NATO/UN/Israel do not stop, there WILL be a nuclear exchange.

jeff montanye's picture

we have always been at war with eastasia.  ron paul '12

Tramp Stamper's picture

Brzezinski

"Today it is easier to kill a million people than it is to control a million people"

Long-John-Silver's picture

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Long-John-Silver's picture

That shifter got banned for obvious reasons.

SHEEPFUKKER's picture

I can only afford a unicycle with all this 70's style inflation, errrrrrrrrr, 3% inflation. 

philipat's picture

Sorry to point out that, actually, it was UK and French jets, not the US, that enforced the No-fly zone over Libya. All part of Obama's strategy of "Leading from behind" you know.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

The US flew thousands of sorties over Libya.

philipat's picture

Americans are so full of themselves and just can't handle the truth? Perhaps that's why the US is so fucked up? "Allies" only ever get mentioned when the US is trying to divert attention, and so obviously so to all other than a domestic audience. After the initial onslaught of missiles i=on Tripoli and Benghazi from many parties, the US did diddly squat. Please produce evidence that the US flew "Thousands of sorties" over Libya and state WHERE they flew from. According to my reliable sources in London, that is not correct.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture
AFRICOM: AF, Navy still flying Libya missions

 

By Dave Majumdar - Staff writer
Posted : Thursday Jun 30, 2011 12:33:04 EDT

Air Force and Navy aircraft are still flying hundreds of strike missions over Libya despite the Obama administration’s claim that American forces are playing only a limited support role in the NATO operation.

An Africa Command (AFRICOM) spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday that since NATO’s Operation Unified Protector (OUP) took over from the American-led Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 31, the U.S. military has flown hundreds of strike sorties. Previously, Washington had claimed that it was mostly providing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) and tanker support to NATO forces operating over Libya.

“U.S. aircraft continue to fly support [ISR and refueling] missions, as well as strike sorties under NATO tasking,” AFRICOM spokeswoman Nicole Dalrymple said in an emailed statement. “As of today, and since 31 March, the U.S. has flown a total of 3,475 sorties in support of OUP. Of those, 801 were strike sorties, 132 of which actually dropped ordnance.”

 

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/06/defense-africom-air-force-navy-fly...

philipat's picture

As compared to how many STRIKE missions flown by UK and French jets which actually dropped ordnance? I have the answer but will await your response.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

Keep moving the goal posts all you want. I said the US flew thousands of sorties and they did. You were wrong. Get over it.

infocyde's picture

From the source...

http://www.acus.org/natosource/national-composition-nato-strike-sorties-libya US also provided intelligence, CAP, and other mission resources.  

More info found here http://goo.gl/I1uVv

Coronal Mass Ejaculation's picture

Just bend over and Obummer will gladly shove something up your behind as well...

palmereldritch's picture

Democracy™ brand ordnance.  Ask for it by name!

philipat's picture

I think you mean "Democrat" brand ordnance?

palmereldritch's picture

I know I meant ordnance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnance

I don’t think you know satire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

And I’m almost positive you don’t know The False Left-Right Paradigm Concept
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_right_paradigm

philipat's picture

I think you mean sarcasm, which I understand very well thanks.

cbxer55's picture

I just bought a 27 speed from Performance Bicycle. ;-)

Herkimer Jerkimer's picture

This action, if it happens, will be the undoing of the Arab world. The Arab League is going to step up and throw Syria under the bus and issue a declaration to protect it's citizens from the mass slaughter from a dictator?! Huh?! Did the whole middle east suddenly take a big chug of the kool-aid? When did they find Allah?

Most of those bully-state schmucks will find it a tough pill to swallow when suddenly confronted with the angry hornet's nest in their own country as the population looks over at hypocrisy of their own personal dictators suddenly acting so sanctimoniously and they will undoubted take to the street, only to be met with a crack-down consisting of tanks and AK's. Then they'll be pissed.

My, we live in interesting times. 

I think oil is about to go up. Way, way, up!

 

Herkimer Jerkimer

Troll Magnet's picture

Syria must be stopped because, um, it's like, Iran is high dangerous because like, um, I guess like, um, EPA?

lincolnsteffens's picture

Aren't we lucky. This could be bullish for owners of oil floating in takers hoping for a pop in prices. The oil producing states must be having a problem with the value of the amazing incredible shrinking dollar.

trav7777's picture

wtf shit are you smoking, dude, Brent crude has been way over $100 for like eons now

lolmao500's picture

Yes but they made their budget according to $120 a barrel. Those damn fools.

SHEEPFUKKER's picture

Can't I just ask Siri-ya on my iphone for the oil and gold?

philipat's picture

And besides, we need something to distract the sheeple from thinking about the economy and being ripped off by the banksters. So we can all get wrapped up in the flag and support our brave boys.

f16hoser's picture

Let the bombing, Oops, No Fly Zone begin! Pentagon is in fear of a budget cut. How dare they cut my funding during a No Fly Zone Operation.

living on the edge's picture

One can only hope for a No Fly Zone Operation over Washington DC next. The objective to stop terrorism at the source.

James T. Kirk's picture

I'd be happy to help out by supplying an orbital platform that supports, let's just say, a mix of extremely exotic and technologically superior weaponry.

StychoKiller's picture

Please?  And thank you!  Toss out the Prime Directive one more time (you know you want to!)

sessinpo's picture

There already is a no fly zone operation over DC as well as other special places around the US.  It still didn't prevent the attack on the pentagon. The problem we have here is that the people that have created and enforce this no fly zone are quite possibly the terrorists themselves. Imagine that, the source of terrorism (or at least one souce) is Washington DC.

CrockettAlmanac.com's picture

"No Fly Zone" is grammatically incorrect. It should be "No Flying Zone" or "No Flight Zone." A "No Fly Zone" is an area in which buzzy little insects are prohibited.

If "No Fly Zone" made sense for the intended purpose then we'd also see signs reading, "No Smoke," "No Hunt" and "No Trespass." Are government officials capable of nothing more than pidgin English?