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"No Fly Zone" Over Syria Imminent?

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Roughly six months after the imposition of the No Fly Zone over Libya, which ultimately led to the liberation of the country's Light Sweet Crude and the placement of an Eni SpA executive (Italy's largest oil company) as Libya's oil minister and also had a side effect of getting Gaddafi murdered in broad daylight by the reformed freedom fighters, the script is about to be rewound from the beginning, and a few thousand miles east, this time next to explosive powderkeg Syria. Albawaba news, which cites Kuwait's al Rai daily, reports that Arab jet fighters, and possibly Turkish warplanes, backed by American logistic support will implement a no fly zone in Syria's skies, after the Arab League will issue a decision, under its Charter, calling for the protection of Syrian civilians. In other words, foreign countries will take it upon themselves to do what only America has done with impunity so far: decide what is best for a given sovereign nation's population. Granted, we have yet to verify the credibility of both Al Bawaba and Al Rai, although at first blush they appear substantially more credible than Debka-type fly by night operations. Which then leads to a sobering conclusion: if indeed Europe and the Western world is dead set upon an aerial campaign above Syria, then all eyes turn to the East, and specifically Russia and China, which have made it very clear they will not tolerate any intervention. And naturally the biggest unknown of all is Iran, which has said than any invasion of Syria will be dealt with swiftly and severely. Then again, the Iranian war foreplay has gone on for far too long at this point that we have gotten to where headlines about the "imminent" Iranian war are almost as ignored as headlines about how "Europe is bailed out" all over again.

From Al Bawaba:

Senior European sources said that Arab jet fighters, and possibly Turkish warplanes, backed by American logistic support will implement a no fly zone in Syria's skies, after the Arab League will issue a decision, under its Charter, calling for the protection of Syrian civilians.

 

The sources told Kuwait's al Rai daily that the no fly ban will include a ban on the movement of Syrian military vehicles, including tanks, personnel carriers and artillery, adding that this move would aim at curbing the movement of Assad forces, and cripple their ability to bomb cities. The European sources said the no fly ban might lead to the paralysis of the Syrian regime forces "in less than 24 hours."

 

Meanwhile, it is reported that the leadership of the Turkish General Staff informed all the concerned parties with the Syrian issue its rejection of the idea that the Turkish army would launch any invasion to the Syrian territory including the area adjacent to the Turkish border to establish a "buffer zone" to protect civilians fleeing the violence.

Perhaps "buffer zone" in the Farsi translates as Lebensraum. Pardon us while we look it up.

 

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Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:23 | 1904628 surf0766
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10 speeds on ebay sold out

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:33 | 1904650 camaro68ss
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Lybia 2.0 Bitchz

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:42 | 1904830 Conrad Murray
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Food for thought...

Brzezinski:

how America ‘manages’ Eurasia is critical… A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world’s three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa’s subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world’s central continent. About 75 per cent of the world’s people live in Eurasia, and most of the world’s physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world’s GNP and about three-fourths of the world’s known energy resources.

Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power to cause a potentially important shift in the international distribution of power and to decipher the central external goals of their respective political elites and the likely consequences of their seeking to attain them;… second, to formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or control the above

 

General Wesley Clark

As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia, and Sudan


Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:54 | 1905035 New_Meat
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Con: ya gotta be kidding all of us!  Quoting Zbiggie?  And, if you've ever walked through the five-sided-puzzle-palace, you'd know that they have contingency plans for Private Smith to take a crap in <undisclosed location> in concert with all of the other privates named Smith, within 4 seconds TOT, at a time not earlier than 3 1/2 years from now.

- Ned

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:57 | 1905049 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Reading Zbig is a must:  It is perinent to know what the enemy is doing.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:34 | 1905197 surf0766
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Isn't it amazing. We are assisting to create that which seeks to destroy us. Can they really join all the MENA countries together?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:29 | 1905421 sitenine
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Umm, lest we forget:

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-18/europe/30414010_1_western...

We are talking about the possibility of a global military event at this point folks.  Krugman must be salivating - the sick bastard...

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:39 | 1905457 trav7777
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Russia and China will not act if the Arabs impose this.  Politically, they really can't interfere that strongly in a local matter

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:43 | 1905471 sitenine
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I agree with that assessment, but there are externalities and tensions beyond what I would consider normal here.  I wouldn't go so far as to state or imply that anything is imminent at this point.  Good prudence seems to be lacking though, and there is great potential for misunderstandings and undesired conflict under these kinds of circumstances.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 00:00 | 1905516 Coronal Mass Ej...
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See that's the problem though. It will have all the "appearances" of the Arabs "imposing" it when it fact they are mere puppets to the Western Superpowers...and China/Russia will have to decide if they play ignorantly along...or call the bluff...

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 01:58 | 1905780 philipat
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They are even more corrupt than the US?

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 07:23 | 1905970 Element
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But as a proxy, they can interfere, like the major powers they are, or else wish to thus become.

Russia and China will be sitting there and to them it will look just like a reverse Domino Effect on their southern borders and 'their' immediate strategic airspace. It will look like something that's much more sinister than the MSM asserts.

They will NOT sit on their hands in the face of this, in the very same way that we wouldn't, either.

Georgia was a warning and NATO didn't care to listen, so another more compelling proxy example is necessary.

As Robert McNamara said, you have to 'empathise' with an enemy to understand them, to grasp what they will do in order to avoid a miscalculation that leads to an otherwise unexpected or unforeseen strategic war ... or a proxy-war ... between major power interests.

Likewise; you don't let your opponent out of his corner when you have him on the ropes.

Dreams of more-or less leaving Afghanistan in 2014 are fantasy, because these have NATO on the ropes ... this is the fight they WANTED ... and it is going to increasingly be a proxy fight.

Russians and the Chinese do not want the military analogue/counterpart of Wall Street on their border - PERIOD.

And they will do all necessary to remove it and eliminate it.

So far it's all been an extremely unimpressive and absurd/pathetic insurgency skirmish, with typical US overkill tactics in the middle East, against stuff-all real opposition, and no REALLY BIG casualties, since Sept 11 ... but that's going to change, because a real fight, between big powers, via proxy, is now almost certain.

The continuing utter stupidity of the thoroughly idiotic and bankrupt reasoning for being in the area and killing so many of the outraged occupied locals is also a big part of why this MUST occur. 

The other big powers are thus forced to demoralise, punish and bleed NATO, else like a bankster who's never punished, they "absolutely will not stop"

 

And if US/NATO/UN/Israel do not stop, there WILL be a nuclear exchange.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:12 | 1905371 jeff montanye
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we have always been at war with eastasia.  ron paul '12

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 08:05 | 1906062 Tramp Stamper
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Brzezinski

"Today it is easier to kill a million people than it is to control a million people"

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:18 | 1904754 Long-John-Silver
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Those old Bike Boom (70's) era Bicycles are tough. They had 2 sprockets on the pedals and 5 sprockets on the wheel and weighed about 35 pounds. Today they have 2 and sometimes 3 sprockets on the pedals and 10 sprockets on the wheel and the lightest one's weigh in at 12 pounds. They also cost more than a new top of the line new car did in the 70's. I payed more money for a bike I purchased last year than I did for my first new car in the late 70's.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:26 | 1904782 Jendrzejczyk
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You weren't cool unless you were rocking one of these.

http://attachments.techguy.org/attachments/165588d1266866994/red-1970s-b...

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:32 | 1904800 Long-John-Silver
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That shifter got banned for obvious reasons.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:54 | 1904863 SHEEPFUKKER
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I can only afford a unicycle with all this 70's style inflation, errrrrrrrrr, 3% inflation. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:50 | 1905022 philipat
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Sorry to point out that, actually, it was UK and French jets, not the US, that enforced the No-fly zone over Libya. All part of Obama's strategy of "Leading from behind" you know.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:15 | 1905119 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The US flew thousands of sorties over Libya.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 02:11 | 1905787 philipat
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Americans are so full of themselves and just can't handle the truth? Perhaps that's why the US is so fucked up? "Allies" only ever get mentioned when the US is trying to divert attention, and so obviously so to all other than a domestic audience. After the initial onslaught of missiles i=on Tripoli and Benghazi from many parties, the US did diddly squat. Please produce evidence that the US flew "Thousands of sorties" over Libya and state WHERE they flew from. According to my reliable sources in London, that is not correct.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 02:12 | 1905802 CrockettAlmanac.com
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AFRICOM: AF, Navy still flying Libya missions

 

By Dave Majumdar - Staff writer
Posted : Thursday Jun 30, 2011 12:33:04 EDT

Air Force and Navy aircraft are still flying hundreds of strike missions over Libya despite the Obama administration’s claim that American forces are playing only a limited support role in the NATO operation.

An Africa Command (AFRICOM) spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday that since NATO’s Operation Unified Protector (OUP) took over from the American-led Operation Odyssey Dawn on March 31, the U.S. military has flown hundreds of strike sorties. Previously, Washington had claimed that it was mostly providing intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) and tanker support to NATO forces operating over Libya.

“U.S. aircraft continue to fly support [ISR and refueling] missions, as well as strike sorties under NATO tasking,” AFRICOM spokeswoman Nicole Dalrymple said in an emailed statement. “As of today, and since 31 March, the U.S. has flown a total of 3,475 sorties in support of OUP. Of those, 801 were strike sorties, 132 of which actually dropped ordnance.”

 

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/06/defense-africom-air-force-navy-fly...

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 03:31 | 1905854 philipat
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As compared to how many STRIKE missions flown by UK and French jets which actually dropped ordnance? I have the answer but will await your response.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 14:20 | 1907501 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Keep moving the goal posts all you want. I said the US flew thousands of sorties and they did. You were wrong. Get over it.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 17:23 | 1908403 infocyde
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From the source...

http://www.acus.org/natosource/national-composition-nato-strike-sorties-libya US also provided intelligence, CAP, and other mission resources.  

More info found here http://goo.gl/I1uVv

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 00:02 | 1905524 Coronal Mass Ej...
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Just bend over and Obummer will gladly shove something up your behind as well...

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 01:51 | 1905765 palmereldritch
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Democracy™ brand ordnance.  Ask for it by name!

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 02:13 | 1905784 philipat
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I think you mean "Democrat" brand ordnance?

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 02:14 | 1905804 palmereldritch
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I know I meant ordnance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnance

I don’t think you know satire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

And I’m almost positive you don’t know The False Left-Right Paradigm Concept
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_right_paradigm

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 03:29 | 1905856 philipat
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I think you mean sarcasm, which I understand very well thanks.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:55 | 1905501 cbxer55
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I just bought a 27 speed from Performance Bicycle. ;-)

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 00:01 | 1905522 Herkimer Jerkimer
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This action, if it happens, will be the undoing of the Arab world. The Arab League is going to step up and throw Syria under the bus and issue a declaration to protect it's citizens from the mass slaughter from a dictator?! Huh?! Did the whole middle east suddenly take a big chug of the kool-aid? When did they find Allah?

Most of those bully-state schmucks will find it a tough pill to swallow when suddenly confronted with the angry hornet's nest in their own country as the population looks over at hypocrisy of their own personal dictators suddenly acting so sanctimoniously and they will undoubted take to the street, only to be met with a crack-down consisting of tanks and AK's. Then they'll be pissed.

My, we live in interesting times. 

I think oil is about to go up. Way, way, up!

 

Herkimer Jerkimer

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:23 | 1904630 Troll Magnet
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Syria must be stopped because, um, it's like, Iran is high dangerous because like, um, I guess like, um, EPA?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:35 | 1904652 lincolnsteffens
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Aren't we lucky. This could be bullish for owners of oil floating in takers hoping for a pop in prices. The oil producing states must be having a problem with the value of the amazing incredible shrinking dollar.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:40 | 1905461 trav7777
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wtf shit are you smoking, dude, Brent crude has been way over $100 for like eons now

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 02:01 | 1905782 lolmao500
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Yes but they made their budget according to $120 a barrel. Those damn fools.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:41 | 1904828 SHEEPFUKKER
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Can't I just ask Siri-ya on my iphone for the oil and gold?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:53 | 1905027 philipat
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And besides, we need something to distract the sheeple from thinking about the economy and being ripped off by the banksters. So we can all get wrapped up in the flag and support our brave boys.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:29 | 1904641 f16hoser
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Let the bombing, Oops, No Fly Zone begin! Pentagon is in fear of a budget cut. How dare they cut my funding during a No Fly Zone Operation.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:04 | 1904724 SHEEPFUKKER
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War Whores

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:25 | 1904779 Bumblebee Tuna
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The Fog of Whore

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 00:17 | 1905575 DarkestPhoenix
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I think it's just Cloudy Discharge.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:57 | 1904872 living on the edge
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One can only hope for a No Fly Zone Operation over Washington DC next. The objective to stop terrorism at the source.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 01:14 | 1905709 Ima anal sphincter
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Absolutely beautiful statement.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 02:01 | 1905781 James T. Kirk
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I'd be happy to help out by supplying an orbital platform that supports, let's just say, a mix of extremely exotic and technologically superior weaponry.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 04:04 | 1905883 StychoKiller
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Please?  And thank you!  Toss out the Prime Directive one more time (you know you want to!)

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 09:29 | 1906280 sessinpo
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There already is a no fly zone operation over DC as well as other special places around the US.  It still didn't prevent the attack on the pentagon. The problem we have here is that the people that have created and enforce this no fly zone are quite possibly the terrorists themselves. Imagine that, the source of terrorism (or at least one souce) is Washington DC.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:40 | 1905216 CrockettAlmanac.com
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"No Fly Zone" is grammatically incorrect. It should be "No Flying Zone" or "No Flight Zone." A "No Fly Zone" is an area in which buzzy little insects are prohibited.

If "No Fly Zone" made sense for the intended purpose then we'd also see signs reading, "No Smoke," "No Hunt" and "No Trespass." Are government officials capable of nothing more than pidgin English?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:35 | 1905445 cartonero
Wed, 11/23/2011 - 01:00 | 1905678 Cathartes Aura
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"war on terror" says pidgin english is spoken at the highest levels.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:30 | 1904645 aVian
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Central Bank of Syria in 3..2..1  who will Goldman Sachs appoint there?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:51 | 1904697 SHEEPFUKKER
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J. Corzine?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:15 | 1904748 knukles
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Fuck yeah!  Transfer that gold into a segregated accout.
Bomb some more them brown people.
Make the Universe safe for Peace in Our Time.
Bomb all them liitle shits back to the stone age from which they never escaped.  
Love the smell of burning flesh in the morning.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:22 | 1904771 Long-John-Silver
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Love the smell of burning White phosphorous and flesh in the morning.

 

Fixed it for you.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:41 | 1904995 Chupacabra-322
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Don't forget the DU either.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:27 | 1904785 spekulatn
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NO BLOOD FOR GOLD OIL, bitchez.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:19 | 1905134 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The US is in the unfortunate habit of using other people's blood to pay for oil.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:26 | 1905411 spekulatn
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Green up arrow to you CA.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 00:23 | 1905593 CompassionateFascist
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Syria has very little oil...but is allied with Iran. Once again it's about the Israelites. Why? Those who control the gold make the rules.  

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:38 | 1904649 end da fed
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for those of you who are wondering wtf is "Lebensraum" (like myself)... per Wikipedia:

Lebensraum (German for "habitat" or literally "living space") was one of the major political ideas of Adolf Hitler, and an important component of Nazi ideology. It served as the motivation for the expansionist policies of Nazi Germany, aiming to provide extra space for the growth of the German population, for a Greater Germany

 

lmao- the tylers are so brilliant and funny!

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:31 | 1904798 Jendrzejczyk
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You'll never get banned with that avatar.

Marla is probably puking up blood though.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:43 | 1905137 Carlyle Groupie
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Everything will be fine as long as no one tries to bind ZH only Tyler can bind the zero hedge.

"But we're all Tyler Durden".

I would have loved to have heard that conversation.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 22:01 | 1909157 Use of Weapons
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.

 

Paid troll. Blocking in effect.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:42 | 1904832 Kayman
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Much of southern and western Russia was populated by people of Germanic descent. Look where Hudderites, Doukhabors, and Mennonites came from.

The Czar and ultimately the Commies ran them out.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:26 | 1905163 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Hitler was misquoted. He was just wanted a nice living room with burgundy armchairs and a matching settee.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 02:01 | 1905785 palmereldritch
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and a shrubbery

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:55 | 1904651 Comay Mierda
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HUMANITARIAN BOMBS BITCHEZ

another peace prize is in the works

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:36 | 1904654 tekhneek
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"No Fly Zone" Over Syria Imminent?

What is that headline really a question? Here, fixed it for you:

"No Fly Zone" Over Syria Imminent.

Syria: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VCmsvRLMBX4/TYdmVbaDgEI/AAAAAAAACw8/tdk-_kCC7H...

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:37 | 1904655 jonjon831983
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Sigh... here we go again...

People thought it wouldn't be possible for the US to get engaged in another conflict, but they didn't think about the proxies.

To add legitimacy, even Canada of all places is keeping its fleet (2 ships) :P in Mediterranean.

 

Any context to the General Wesley Clark clip from around Iraq War?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:55 | 1904706 Lord Welligton
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Some more from the General.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yws3zkPCA

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:37 | 1904656 Alpacanio
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Russia will soon have a statement saying... The Russian airforce will enforce a new anti Arab/NATO no fly zone over Syria. Also, no Nato warships near Syria's ports. 

 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:22 | 1904770 johny2
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Russia will do nothing. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:36 | 1904810 Long-John-Silver
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I'm not so sure of that. This stuff is starting to cut into Russia’s Foreign Military Arms Sales.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:47 | 1904846 johny2
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Even if they wanted, they can't do anything. And they would be stupid to get involved in any case, as they would get nothing good from it in any case. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:59 | 1904868 CrashisOptimistic
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NATO didn't move without some sort of UN resolution for cover in Libya.

China and Russia abstained from that vote.

They won't abstain again.  They will veto any Syrian intervention resolution in the Security Council and that will be the end of authorizing of anything.

Furthermore, at 10 million bpd Russia pumps more oil than any other country on the planet.  If they don't like something, they don't have to take military action.  They can just close the spigot and watch the price go up, and quietly inform the relevant countries of what their behavior will be if they want oil.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:01 | 1904891 johny2
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Obama does not need Security Councils resolution, he's got Nobels prize for Peace. You are right though, Russia will do that, they will veto resolution and make some noise, but that is all.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:43 | 1904997 Big Corked Boots
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Russia will indeed make a great noise, then enjoy selling oil at $300 per barrel.

Capitalism, bitchez. We taught them well.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:28 | 1905175 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Russian warships in Syrian waters

 

Three Russian warships have entered Syrian territorial waters, Russian wire services reported on Tuesday citing Syrian sources. The news came a day after Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the West and Arab monarchies of engaging in “political provocation” in Syria by rejecting dialogue between the opposition and authorities and welcoming armed attacks on government offices.

 

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article2650542.ece

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 08:07 | 1906064 johny2
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Exactly. How some people don't get it, is beyond me. Russia would gain nothing from fighting in Syria. If the weapons they sold to Syria work well, they will sell more. Price of oil goes up, bingo! USA deeper in debt, result! Capitalism at its best. 

As for Syria, I hope that somehow it gets solved without war and bombings.  But we are humans, after all.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:00 | 1905335 Alpacanio
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Great point CrashisOptimistic!

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:46 | 1905480 trav7777
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lol...did you read?  ARAB LEAGUE will do this

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:11 | 1904918 DosZap
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Alpacanio

They already have warships is the area..................Rooskies.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:38 | 1904665 TheJokingJollyRoger
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Let's just get this world war III bullshit out of the way already........

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:58 | 1904712 moonstears
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It's WW XI or so, actually(see "Legends, Lies and Cherished Myths of World History" R. Shenkman 1993)

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:42 | 1904672 navy62802
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US politicians are itching for a global mass-death conflict. And if things maintain their current trajectory, we may well have one. The Republicans in the US have gone so long without such a mass-death event that they're gnawing at the bone. It's been about 50 or so years since they've seen enough death to placate their blood-lust. And Obama is only too ready to invoke his Nobel Peace Prize for the sake of liberating millions from the burden of life. The stage is set, my friends, and the US has run empty on wisdom. If you belong to an age group which will be alive to witness the next 10 years, I think you will see massive armed conflict and commensurate death. We live in truly interesting times. It seems the balance of power in the world is about to be tested.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:52 | 1904702 OutLookingIn
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Hey Navy - right on! You are correct Sir.

Only three ways to dispose of the massive amount of debt.

1/ Pay it off - aint going to happen. Not a hope in hell!

2/ Default - no way. The rich want their cake and eat it to!

3/ Go to war. Debt taken care of. The rich get richer. Unemployment to zero. Reduce the population.

So tuck your heads down and prepare accordingly.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:55 | 1905038 Things that go bump
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Hopefully, they will be stretched so thin they won't have the resources to deal with matters when the states start seceding.    

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:33 | 1905194 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Republicans in the US have gone so long without such a mass-death event that they're gnawing at the bone. It's been about 50 or so years since they've seen enough death to placate their blood-lust.

 

The Republicans were the peace party leading into World War II. The Democrats cheered on that one just as they did for World War I and Vietnam. Wilson, FDR and LBJ were the one's with blood on their hands and gore between their teeth. And don't forget that in was Republican Ike Eisenhower who got us out of Democrat Truman's little war in Korea.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:49 | 1904680 HamyWanger
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Finally, some action is taken against this dirty shithole named "Syria".

I hope our Boys will cause as much destruction as possible, something like Kosovo ca. 1999. Phosphorus and hollow point would be a good topping.

It is NOT acceptable to be an enemy of America and Israel (The Holy Land of Nazareth) in the XXIth century. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:51 | 1904692 kito
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yeah hamy!!! fuck them up!!! all in the name of democracy and freedom!! after all thats really why we liberate countries!! the u.s.a cares about the global citizens!!!!!

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:59 | 1904877 Conrad Murray
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Woodrow Wilson was the devil.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:35 | 1905202 phyuckyiu
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Hamy is da man! I don't think anyone has built a better resume of junks, maybe Robot might be second, but not close.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 07:18 | 1906000 Element
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But the good Dr. krugman has real potential too overtake

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:55 | 1904708 yabyum
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Send your friends and family Hamy....mine are staying home.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:14 | 1904747 Bansters-in-my-...
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3O SECONDS hammy......

I would just about sell my soul,for 30 seconds ,alone ,in a room with my favourite little douche bag.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:18 | 1904756 knukles
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Needs serious professional help

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:26 | 1904781 Let them eat iPads
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The only good thing about this is that israel may get obliterated in the fallout.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:44 | 1905249 CrockettAlmanac.com
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I don't want to see the Palestinians have to suffer any further.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:39 | 1904816 jonjon831983
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Don't know if there's some sarc or something here...

 

but I think you forgot to add to your list the Depleted Uranium!

 

Terrible sarcasm though if it is.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:56 | 1904869 Coke and Hookers
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Zerohedge is probably a fun place to troll because wery few members seem to have a working sarcasm detector.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:47 | 1905269 CrockettAlmanac.com
Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:03 | 1904880 Kayman
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HamyWanger

Too bad there isn't a drone circling over your head, Asshole.

The dentist is a piece of shit, but the rest of the Syrians don't need to be barbequed to complete the caveman drivel in the Old Testament.

Holy Land is just another piece of dirt, found anywhere on the planet.

Sarc on/ Irony off

 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:21 | 1904939 DosZap
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Hamy Wanger,

Holy Land is just another piece of dirt, found anywhere on the planet

Think so?, look at Israel on the world map.

It is at the CENTER of the world.

2000yrs ago, a prophet knew the earth was round,and said so in the scriptures.

1000yrs later the Europeans were thinking it was flat.

Jerusalem is HOLY and is the city of GOD.

So, the Holy Land is just that, Holy(set apart).

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:06 | 1905090 PaperBugsBurn
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What? What? What the fuck are you talking about moron? I could take Gawaii a d claim it was at the center of the world.

Pull your head out of your ass, man!

Zioconned bitch.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:16 | 1905117 john39
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if so holy, why filled with satanists?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:37 | 1905212 phyuckyiu
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+1 moloch statue.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:48 | 1905277 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The universe is infinite and therefore each of us occupies its apparent center.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 00:16 | 1905572 Coronal Mass Ej...
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You demented, stupid motherfucker....you are the epidomy of the US problem...right there in living colour behind your computer monitior chomping on nachos and swigging beer....fuck you, sir.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:49 | 1904687 Alpacanio
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Think of it... If the US was being nuked, would Obama have the balls to pass the codes for launch? Even if bombs were landing in US citys?

 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:17 | 1905127 john39
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yeah, because really, he has showed so much restraint in not attacking Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, and various african countries.  you know, peace lover and all.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:51 | 1905291 CrockettAlmanac.com
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When Bush was told that America was under attack he couldn't have launched a counterattack if necessary because he kept on reading that damned goat book long after submarine based missiles could have taken out our entire coastline.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:51 | 1904698 Royal Fleming
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obooba is ready.he is stockpiling illegal mexicans for carpet bombing of syria, they are armed with personal stereos with the most hideous music known to man.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:53 | 1905299 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Faster and Furiouser.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:52 | 1904700 SHEEPFUKKER
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Bombs for oil, gold.......I mean, peace and liberation!! Winning!!!

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:54 | 1904705 Elwood P Suggins
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$200.00 oil for Christmas anyone?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:57 | 1904711 Alpacanio
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Is Santa allowed to fly in "NO FLY ZONES" ???

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:39 | 1904990 Lord Welligton
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"The boy said, Dad they're going to take me to task. But I'll be back by Christmas. It's just a rumour that was spread around town.

Will the troops be back by Christmas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuPrrdRzlxc

Soon we'll be shipbuilding.

Wed, 11/23/2011 - 01:18 | 1905716 Cathartes Aura
Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:55 | 1905309 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Air Force has been escorting Santa for years. At least that's what they tell little kids so they can raise up a new crop of willing cannon fodder. Thank you for your service, Saint Nick.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:06 | 1904718 Bansters-in-my-...
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But No boots on the ground comming .....right.....

Right....?

War mongers.......

War makes work these days,and covers up or overshadows the real crimes......

 Federal Reserve Banking......................................Corrupt western goverments.

Keep your eyes on the ball boys and girls.....

Keep your eyes on the ball....

Can't wait till I go to my new world.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 19:59 | 1904719 SHEEPFUKKER
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Can we establish a "no idiot zone" around the Pentagon for this crap?

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:02 | 1904721 johny2
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It looks like Ottoman empire is making a comeback. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:39 | 1904820 Long-John-Silver
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With help from Obama. Little wonder people continue to believe he's a Muslim.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:51 | 1904854 johny2
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He is a puppet, that is for sure.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:18 | 1905131 john39
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yes the give away is all the muslims he orders killed, and all the muslim countries he orders attacked.   gotta be a muslim.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:20 | 1905394 earnyermoney
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Those Muslims he's killing are the wrong types of Muslims.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:59 | 1905504 john39
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Yeah, the ones that aren't crypto Zionists.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 23:50 | 1905326 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Stupid people believe stupid things. Obama seems to be a lightning rod for that sort of thing. Some people say he's the Messiah while others claim he's a Muslim. He's just another suit.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:04 | 1904726 Bansters-in-my-...
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HammyWanger.......

Would LOVE.....LOVE.... to be locked in a room alone with you for about 30 seconds........

You Authority cum swallowing scumbag.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:10 | 1904736 Lord Welligton
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The clue is in the first name.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:10 | 1904737 f16hoser
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Don't forget about Libya's Gold. I'm sure Syria has some too. Uncle Sam loves Gold. Especially since we don't have as much as he claims too.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:24 | 1904777 SHEEPFUKKER
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Uncle Sam has plenty of tungsten gold. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:41 | 1904825 Long-John-Silver
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Gold pressed Tungsten  Fixed it for you.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:42 | 1904831 SHEEPFUKKER
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TY Johnny boy. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:11 | 1904740 Bunker Boy
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If this is true- and that is a big if- then Syria will activate it's Hizb'Allah ally in Lebanon to begin launching missiles into Israel in the hopes of drawing Israel into this mess and kicking off another round of Israeli-Arab war, though this time with much more devastating consequences.  Likewise, Iran has a mutual defense pace with Syria and will not stand idly by. If Iran has achieved nuclear capability, this may be the opportunity to bring out its new toys. Then there is Russia which has moved its warships into Syrian waters over the last few days. I'm sure Russia has intel that things may soon get hot and moved a few naval assets into position.

Then there  is always the possibility this is an Arab gambit to bait Israel into responding to missiles raining down on its nations and beginning a very large regional war- possibly spreading to a world war- that will be short and very bitter to all involved.

We are certainly living in interesting times. This is ultimately inevitable, but it would be nice if this thing were put off a few more years.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:19 | 1904760 Lord Welligton
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Then there is Russia which has moved its warships into Syrian waters over the last few days. I'm sure Russia has intel that things may soon get hot and moved a few naval assets into position.

And maybe they brought some toys.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:44 | 1904836 Elwood P Suggins
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We are certainly living in interesting times. This is ultimately inevitable, but it would be nice if this thing were put off a few more years.

 

Well it would stop people worrying about EU debt.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:16 | 1904750 Winterland
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We are truly simple beasts.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:19 | 1904762 Aengrod
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I'm not, you might be indeed ....

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:08 | 1904910 Winterland
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The royal we my friend. The human race.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:22 | 1904766 Catalyst
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Like Libya, does Syria have oil that Europe can't afford to pay for so they'll borrow the US military to secure it? I'm a little behind on my knowledge of which Middle Eastern power will be toppled next to help keep the lights on in Europe. 

 

We heard this same song and dance with Libya. "Arab warplanes and Ottomans will assist" only to find out that they have three functioning aircraft combined and are incapable of policing their own skies, let alone Syria's. 

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:28 | 1904791 Aengrod
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Watch out for Turkey. It always was a main motor (engine) of muslim world. Now it is slowly reclaiming the land that was lost after the fall of Ottoman Empire. Give or take few years. It is no coincidence that Greece and Israel are backing each other when dealing with Turkey.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:09 | 1904912 hangemhigh
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TO: Catalyst

"I'm a little behind on my knowledge of which Middle Eastern power will be toppled next to help keep the lights on in Europe." 

only the ones that need to be.........................

http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-cia-spies-caught-fear-execution-middle-east-233819159.html

kreig macht frei!!!

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:22 | 1904773 stock trout
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Wouldn't it be easier to just take out Syria's air power, one 1978 Hughes 500D chopper and 2 1983 Mig 21s, while they are on the ground? Seems it would be cheaper than flying sorties 24x7.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:38 | 1904817 SHEEPFUKKER
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The more destruction that is caused, the more no-bid contracts that the U.S. industrials will have for the "reconstruct Syria" program to add a few ticks onto GDP.  

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 21:12 | 1904920 hangemhigh
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we have a winner!!!..............give that feepshukker a pallet of frn's...............

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:53 | 1905300 Carlyle Groupie
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Arr. And when the battle is finished we'll have to 'auction' off all our war equipment cuz that shiz is too expensive to ship back home.

Winning bidder?

Israel.

Hummm. Just like Iraq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:02 | 1905068 Things that go bump
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You must be from Wisconsin.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 20:35 | 1904805 Coke and Hookers
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Russia will eventually have to take a stand. They see this for what it really is, a globalist takeover of the middle east with them as the ultimate target. They are feeling cornered and will get involved, either in Syria or in Iran. An involvement now might be tempting because the invasion of Syria is mostly going to be a proxy war using Arab forces and they can possibly avoid direct confrontation with the US there. Iran will probably not be subdued without a direct US intervention so they will want to avoid that scenario. If I were in charge of Russia, I would be moving anti-aircraft systems into Syria now and a couple of thousand 'advisors'. I'm bullish on Russian missiles knocking down a few Arab planes in the coming months and would go long General Dynamics stock.

Tue, 11/22/2011 - 22:45 | 1905258 phyuckyiu
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I would think you'd want to be short any American weapons manufacturers when the S-300 systems and the moskit/sunburn systems start hitting targets. When 5-10m missles cause 50-500m damage per, General Dynamics will not be doing well.

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