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No IMF, EFSF Participation In European Bailout: Merkel Says G20 Fails To Reach Agreement On IMF Resources, Nobody Wants Any Piece Of EFSF

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Yesterday we reported that the latest deus ex machina in the endless European bailout was to proceed with IMF monetization and failing that, just a narrower US-funded bailout of Europe. That ain't happening.

  • German Chancellor Merkel says the G20 failed to agree on IMF resources
  • German Chancellor Merkel says will make sure that the IMF has sufficient resources, but also new instruments

And it gets worse:

  • German Chancellor Merkel says hardly any countries in G20 have said they will participate in the EFSF

Which means we are back to the old and now expired fallback deus exes: China and the magical, wonderful and totally unfunded EFSF. No wonder the EURUSD is dropping on the news, as for the BTP-Bunds spread, well, following the Merkel announcement that Italy has to come under IMF monitoring, see below...

 

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Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:07 | 1844422 Archimedes
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The IMF is the United States. Period! And there ain't no way in hell Obummer is going to write a check to the IMF for Europe before elections.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:14 | 1844456 jekyll island
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No, but the Bernank might do it off balance sheet

 

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:43 | 1844575 MonsterBox
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"might"?  no, Beryank will do it, as his habit:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/21/audit-fed-gave-16-trillion-in-emergency-loans/

maybe make it an even $20 Trillion this time.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:03 | 1844666 SwingForce
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He's already done it...

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:06 | 1844675 I am more equal...
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A coward dies a thousand deaths and a hero but once. 

They know the system is dying. We are watching the death throws - there is no 9-1-1, no doctor - nothing can save this terminal condition.  Enough already - die system - die!  I'm frustrated and bored with the melodrama.  In the words of Pink Floyd 'goodbye cruel world - goodbye'

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:46 | 1844861 jekyll island
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It was only 1.1x the US GDP.  Pocket change.  We will get that money back, right?  

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:12 | 1844703 Life of Illusion
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Bernank can secure his investment with SDR’s.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:16 | 1844466 paarsons
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Good Citizens of Metropolis!

Do you know what I want to do?

I want to take my pants in front of Angie Merkel and start jerking-off.

Why?  Just for the fuck of it.

But that's just me.

Anyway, God bless.

http://fucklloydblankfein.blogspot.com

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:21 | 1844489 GeneMarchbanks
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You're obscene, yet you capitalize 'god'. paarsons... I'm starting to (kinda) like you...

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:07 | 1844682 disabledvet
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What kind of Parson are you?

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:29 | 1844779 slewie the pi-rat
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he's a troll-bot

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 10:43 | 1845136 CPL
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Follow your bliss baby....follow your bliss.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:20 | 1844481 GeneMarchbanks
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If by US you mean TBTF banks, then yes. In turn they(TBTF) rely on an unaware, unsuspecting, unintelligent un(fill in the blank) public who pays taxes without asking any questions like good sheeples.

Am I close?

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:25 | 1844500 CPL
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You are thinking in narrow terms.  The US/Mexico/Canada is zone 1, Europe is zone 2, etc...IMF, EFSF all are extensions of the central banking cartels.

 

Nationalism is dead as a stone.  Religion died years ago.  Banks are the only sovereign entities that act as the binding agent for society.  They push and move local, regional and national policies, define the news, influence all media and make the decisions (poorly) of your daily life. 

 

There simply is nothing currently that replaces the almighty FIAT in terms of sway and influence.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:49 | 1844587 Ghordius
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from someone that sports Che Guevara on his avatar I would have expected a slightly different tack...

                            "the almighty FIAT in terms of sway and influence"

This reminds me that every time someone wrote "This is SPARTAAAA" I had to think that the ancient Spartans were proud of having a FIAT currency, proud of this currency having no intrinsic value and forbade all gold and silver on their territory. They had values different from ours.

Fiat is what held many military empires together? Fiat is what brought many empires down?

Blah, fiat is just a tool - like the anvil in a blacksmith's shop. But it can make it more difficult to find value if handled improperly.

 

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 10:34 | 1845089 CPL
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My Che picks his nose and is a regular cult of personality with the MO of a murder and general societal rot.  For some odd reason school children idolize this, just as their skank parents did in the 60's.

 

FIAT is the tool used, use anything else and you are walking into a heap of trouble. 

Unlike the Spartans though we use roughly the full gamble (not gambit) of tools and hidey holes to stretch and justify our nonsense.  I don't remember reading that deeply into the leveraged buy out situations of the Spartans or the triage liquidity gambles with people savings, pensions and housing. 

I do recall from reading a book or five that once someone showed up with better metal than bronze to counter the idea of a phalanx the Spartans were obliterated then turned into action figures and t-shirts (much like the murderous Che).

Sad thing is this is only a repeat to other past empires, we only obtained the current status of "awesome" by proxy of oil and combustion engines.  I'm sure someone will eventually figure something out in 150 years and start the cycle all over again.  This time frame we live in will be a small blurb in a dusty book left unread and ignored come 200 years.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:35 | 1845311 Ghordius
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I met a traveller from an antique land / Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone / Stand in the desert... Near them, on the sand, / Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, / And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, / Tell that its sculptor well those passions read / Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, / The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed. / And on the pedestal these words appear -- / "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: / Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" / Nothing beside remains. Round the decay / Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare /The lone and level sands stretch far away

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:56 | 1844896 doggings
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You are thinking in narrow terms.  The US/Mexico/Canada is zone 1, Europe is zone 2, etc...IMF, EFSF all are extensions of the central banking cartels.
Indeed, as Stefan Molyneux puts it, "livestock management techniques" - you left the communists out. 
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 10:41 | 1845124 CPL
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It certainly is.

 

The North American Sow is an amazing beast. 

 

It consumes far more than it will ever produce in a lifetime, they are of low to average intelligence and can be slaughtered later after its production years as the meat stays firm with agressive health modifications and feed changes.  The marble in the meat allows the meat to stay sweet with the extra layers of fat this beast puts on during it's lifecycle.

The piglets are the most delicious treat, currently testing the idea of fattening from a young age to ripen their productivity cycle with health insurance, lowered intelligence and sense of self entitlement without ownership.  So far this new breed is a fine crop of consumers and will be ready for slaughter earlier than their older counter parts.

 

Delicious.

Sat, 11/05/2011 - 01:54 | 1847953 FlyPaper
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Woah~ there buckaroo.  We bought Alaska, natives and all, from Russia.  Obama might be able to buy Portugal for cheap, and make them new proletariat voters so he can get reelected!    

Of course Obama will write a check.  Just not now.  He can't appear to be bailing out Europe; what he will be bailing out are US entities that are exposed to Europe and present a systemic threat to the US economy.   The FED loaned, what, $13 Trillion? under everyone's noses to stabilize financial entities, many of them European banks.   

Right now he doesn't have the cover.  He might well in a few weeks or months.  

His problem will be getting this past Congress.  I suspect a maelstorm when this comes up again.  He'll do another one of his 'executive' orders, claim this is a "crisis" and suspend guberment operations to seize control.   Iceland (go check that out - zoikes); Argentina in 2001....    pattern is quite established.   Same trick Roosevelt used (Barak is FDR's mini-me).  Nothing new with the Progressive/marxists.

 

 

 

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:07 | 1844425 msmith
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A look at CL, EURUSD, and USDCAD, show mixed signals from the market.  Bias remains for USD strength to be very near.  http://bit.ly/rqn8XZ

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:09 | 1844428 GeneMarchbanks
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Probably because EFSF is an insane solution put together by panicky sociopaths...

Just guessin'

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:27 | 1844467 Ghordius
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insane problems need insane solutions? (I mean yes, EFSF is insane)

seems Ms Merkel forgot to put her power-pijamas on for a night session...

and for this we had to move the City of Cannes to Spain? They promised me a new world and new ideas!

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:08 | 1844429 qussl3
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NO PRINT.

YET.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:15 | 1844459 Ivanovich
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Nah, they just printed the dollars in "portrait" instead of "landscape" and had to scratch the whole deal until they can get the Help Desk on the line.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:08 | 1844430 knight99
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If Italy goes all bets are off. In another life I would have been a reporter who actually asked real questions to Super Mario. Italy refuses to reform yet you continue to buy their bonds so why should anything the ECB says be taken seriously.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:29 | 1844495 Ghordius
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nah, an "Italy goes off" event takes some time,

even if Tyler thinks it's nearly instantaneous

 

Reforms in Italy also need time - for all this AgitProp that the PM is "the problem" the left still has no clue which entitlements they would have to cut and the right still has no clue how to reform the half-broken tax system - see the new divisions at cabinet level

the real problem of Italy is the aggregate mediocrity - parts are sterling, parts are rubbish - some pay taxes, some don't - some produce plenty, some don't, in both society and geographically...

meanwhile the budget deficit is nowhere near Greek, Spanish, Portugiese or even US levels - time.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:59 | 1844647 Triggernometry
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Actually, at about 120%, Italy's debt to GDP is greater than Portugal(106%), Ireland (109%), and Spain (56%). Italy is next on the chopping block, and I'm worried why the problem continues to be swept under the media rug.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:12 | 1844704 disabledvet
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but the deficit is almost in balance. better than anyone else in Europe actually. of course if we're living in an age of moral hazard for governments themselves it might be better to "max out the credit card" just prior to you know what...one way is to actually invade Libya perhaps?

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:09 | 1844435 Dr. Engali
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Correction: no help from the IMF until after weeks of political theater keeping us all waiting with baited breath to see whether or not the will save us from certain doom.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:10 | 1844438 maxmad
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This is bearish!

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:16 | 1844465 jekyll island
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You are right!  I might think about shorting MF Global, Bear Stearns and Lehman Bros if this gets much worse.  

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:21 | 1844490 HelluvaEngineer
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No way.  Our team got to G-Pap and made him an offer he couldn't refuse.  Rally on!

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:11 | 1844442 TradingJoe
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As i stated many times already THEY GOT NOTHING AINT GONNA HAVE NOTHING!!! We'll still see a santa rally though, not sure how and when :))) but we'll have one, pension funds need 8% or else...!

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:11 | 1844444 pendragon
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but  gereece is not going to have a referendum so buy the euro!

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:13 | 1844446 Peter K
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EUR/USD dropping?  Levitating is more like it:)

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:12 | 1844447 firstdivision
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...aaaannnd there go the futures

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:18 | 1844476 J 457
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Starting to slip down.  Waiting for 8:30.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:47 | 1844584 bernorange
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Risk on, risk off, risk on, risk off  /Mr. Miyagi

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:14 | 1844453 Dick Darlington
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*MERKEL SAYS ITALY TO COME UNDER IMF 'MONITORING'

 

So the saga of bloodless conquering continues (until it stops being bloodless...)

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:24 | 1844499 GeneMarchbanks
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Is it possible that she's trying to hand-off the PIIGS to the IMF in order to create a two-tier Eurozone? A "bad" Europe financed by a bankrupt IMF?

 

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:28 | 1844509 Gief Gold Plox
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Slovenia's ex p.m. spoke of two-tiering the Eurozone in near future on the telly yesterday too. Could be something to it, coz it keeps coming up lately.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:31 | 1844520 Dick Darlington
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Could be. I think Edward Hugh wrote a story abt two-tiering the death err eurozone in his "Spain economy watch" blog.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:38 | 1844549 Ghordius
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GeneMarchbanks, in my knowledge of the German history and it's People all the serious troubles they ever had came from "sticking to their commitments" and "marching on, regardless".

All those theories about what the Germans might do to somehow escape obligations and challenges somehow forget the basics - that they are Germans instead of British or Americans or French or Italians.

They will stick to the EZ, period, even if this leads to Götterdämmerung. Perhaps you should have a couple of German gf for a while to appreciate this point...

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:34 | 1844702 i-dog
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+1 from me. Very true. I highly recommend the german gf approach, too!

 

(which shows there are no hard feelings for your silly questions when you say something sensible ;).

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 11:29 | 1845293 Ghordius
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;-) which reminds me I haven't found your "Jesuit Rant" yet

can you help an old man to get into the ring?

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:15 | 1844722 disabledvet
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this would be the tack i would take only obviously you would be asking the IMF to back stop the healthy economies of the "core" while the core restructures "the little people." it's also something that the IMF would agree to i think...as well as many global investors. trying to restructure "Europe as a whole" when not even Greece is being aided but destroyed...and now threatened apparently...is clearly not working.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:14 | 1844454 Irish66
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Germany trying to kick out Greece

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:14 | 1844455 HD
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Yea! More pointless volatility. You would think that CNBC's ratings would be higher.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:14 | 1844458 Peter K
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... and on an aside. Just shows how overvalued actual physical hard dosh is in this Bank Crisis/EFSF/SMP/Euroland equation.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:15 | 1844460 ReallySparky
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Good Grief. I have headline fatigue,is there a pill or shot for that?

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:53 | 1844614 WonderDawg
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A bong is the preferred treatment.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 10:53 | 1845183 slewie the pi-rat
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in the words of the late johnny cochran:

if you smoke a bong, you can't go wrong

BiCheZ!

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:15 | 1844463 EL INDIO
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EFSF = European Failed Shit Fund.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:18 | 1844474 Messianic
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European Failed Slush Fund?

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:23 | 1844494 qussl3
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Elites' Flunkies Slush Fund.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:30 | 1844518 Gief Gold Plox
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Everyone fuck-up something fast!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 17:17 | 1844689 barkster
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...

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:16 | 1844468 Clowns on Acid
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So....now ES prices in .....QE3...buy buy buy! (not...but maybe).

I do think that the only thing holding up the EUR / USD right now is the prospect that US / helicopter Ben will see his role as back stop to the US and Europen economies and begin talking QE3....I mean otherwise ES = 1000 and EUR = 1.3000... chop chop.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:18 | 1844475 rubearish10
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Really? ES still in the 12's. This is a mirage! Valuations still focus primarily on EPS. USD strength is never sustained, therefore EPS will be affected materially as long as there's so much USD overseas. 

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:24 | 1844478 HD
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I would like to remind everyone that the reason Lehman's last chance at a Barclay's deal was extinguished was because British regulators said "no".

Pay back is a bitch.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:20 | 1844483 Freebird
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In other news, the ECB has just completed a vast, just in time, purchase of hairdryers.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:21 | 1844485 Tuffmug
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Who woud a thought the G-20 was smarter than a mentally challenged 3 year old. Guess even they could smell the steaming BS the EU has been trying to shovel. LaGuarde must be pissed as I am sure she promised Sarkozy an IMF stick save of Greece.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:21 | 1844486 junkyardjack
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Who needs the G20? Can't the Libyan Rebels bail out Europe? I expect this rumor to be denied shortly followed by no one from the G20 investing in the EFSF but no one blabbing about it

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:21 | 1844488 Cult_of_Reason
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Berlusconi: "Euro is a disaster... Euro screwed everyone".

LOL

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:40 | 1844558 IrritableBowels
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Well he kinda has a point, no?

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:22 | 1844493 mn2
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youre delusional!!  euro going close to its highs...

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:27 | 1844508 Schmuck Raker
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NEWS FLASH:

Generalissimo Fondo Europeo de Estabilidad Financiera is STILL dead.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:28 | 1844512 jiggerjuice
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Greek 1 year bonds at 233%. That is already a default, and a huge joke. When does it end for Greece? 500%? 1000%? When have you ever seen a non-bankrupt company issue 233% 1 year bonds? At this point is there even a ratings agency "rating" for it? Lowest rating is what, BBB-? More like F-. Sub F-. In school 59% is an F. Greek bonds below F par.

Portugal, Spain, Italy, all at sub-10%. 1 year ago 1 yr Greek debt was at... 5%. Steady climbing over the year, and then the waterfall. Expect Eurozone waterfalls to start gushing soon. Short sovereign debt directly, rather than let Goldman/JPM/whoever write you a CDS "contract" that their lawyers worded to never pay out.

Or just load up on leveraged ETNs and wait for the Big One. I'm assuming everyone here is waiting for the next Big One, the next Big Waterfall, to load up before the Fed emits digits at turboblast.

But there can't possibly be anyone here who doesn't think there's another HUGE waterfall coming soon. It's so obvious... Maybe too obvious. We are all going to get farmed.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:37 | 1844545 hollowbody
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Lets not forget that tucked away in a corner of the IMF is their very own printing machine... Ive got a feeling we are going to be hearing a little more about SDRs shortly.....

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:18 | 1844732 disabledvet
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not for European peripheral debt. European "core" debt...sure, that's possible. Is Germany in trouble yet? Because if there's a problem with that we might have to say no to that as well.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:06 | 1844673 MFL8240
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Seems to me that since we cannot pay back the currevt debt and Europe is gonna implode, why not have the US bail out Europe so we can have a nice Holiday season, than a collapse??

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:30 | 1844786 slewie the pi-rat
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another day, another clown-car show, BiCheZ!

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:38 | 1844823 f16hoser
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Last Resort: Bernanke Bucks!

There, problem solved. I did that in less than 5 seconds from the comfort of my home. World leaders can't decide during another 3-day summit.

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:45 | 1844857 Anne Ominous
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DOOM...

Fri, 11/04/2011 - 10:15 | 1844982 slewie the pi-rat
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i see this is your 2nd post, so, hi!

welcome to zH and thxz for sharing the doom!

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