No Surprise In Boehner's Response To Obama's Latest Proposal
Because the Act 1 of any political drama out of DC deserves an Act 2...
Just released by Boehner:
House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following statement in response to the President’s latest debt plan.
“Pitting one group of Americans against another is not leadership. The Joint Select Committee is engaged in serious work to tackle a serious problem: the debt crisis that is making it harder to get our economy growing and create more American jobs. Unfortunately, the President has not made a serious contribution to its work today. This administration’s insistence on raising taxes on job creators and its reluctance to take the steps necessary to strengthen our entitlement programs are the reasons the president and I were not able to reach an agreement previously, and it is evident today that these barriers remain.”
NOTE: The President’s proposal would raise taxes on both small businesses and on private capital, which is the essential ingredient for job creation in our economy. By declining to support structural improvements to strengthen our entitlement programs, the President has chosen to ignore the warnings about our debt crisis sent by the markets in August – leaving Americans exposed to the possibility of further downgrades that will further damage confidence and make it harder for our economy to grow and create jobs.
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I say 10% from everyone...no tax breaks, no set-asides, no special funding to Solyndra, etc. Everyone pays the same percentage, and the government has to live withinin its means. I know I know...crazy talk, isn't it?
Actually, the surprise is that Boehner didn't beak out in tears with his "response."
http://theworldisleft.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/john-boehner-crying.png
I found this question thought-provoking:
What if the Tea Party was black?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtH7vH4yRcY
Boehner's job creators? What jobs did they create this year? They grossed how much, and then kept or sent to some other country how much? No; They need to be taxed, and at a high level too. The USA is in need of money now, and can not afford to let such ripoffs continue. This trickle down shit is a lie, a very big lie. They get it here ,and don't spend it here. Also keep wanting more and more from the poor no less. Obama is a lie too. He signed a bill extending all those tax cuts to the filthy rich a year ago, and now wants to have them taxed?? It's all cake and circus. This will never happen to any meaning full degree, and those here on ZH know it well!
"Boehner's job creators?"
Incomprehensible sentence fragment; care to rephrase?
(pssst: It isn't governments job to create JOBS, but rather NOT to place IMPEDIMENTS in the way! Geesh! This is not HARD to figure out!)
No, it's not an incomprehensible sentence fragment. Care to reread?
And thanks for telling us what government's job is, even if the only support you have for such a statement is personal fiat.
The jobs they created can be found on the other side of the globe, and with Jeffy Immelt on board as Obama's Outsourcing Czar, I don't expect any improvement.
This is what we get from a one-party political system. At least the USSR didn't pour billions of dollars annually into marketing the idea that the "red" commies and the "blue" commies were separate parties with real differences.
Marked down.
My short and sweet fix for our broken fraudulent joke of a govt-
ALL politicians get 4 years maximum, I dont care to hear about how 'special' they are at their jobs, thats all BS, and most important ALL politicians salaries ONLY come from certified budget surpluses. Govt numbers are also scored by outside accountants who also get 4 year contracts at the most. Any politician or accountant found taking bribes, kickbacks, or inside trading gets a LIFE sentence at Leavenworth Federal Prison.
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Do away with the seniority system in congress. Assign committee seats by lottery.
That way a district wouldn't be throwing away millions in pork by replacing a long term crook.
Making them live under the rules they create for us, instead of exempting themselves, would help also.
Any taxation scheme is crazy, because they'll just spend it.
I say the incoome tax is unconstitutional.
It is for the individual, the great stupidity of our legal system (and there are many) is the legal recognition of the corporation as an individual with all of the associated protections but due to spinoffs etc. few if any of the liabilities.
Taxing corporations is the way to go, taxing the income of individuals is bullshit.
For all those proposing no taxes let me suggest that is ludicrous. Do away with the FED, the IRS and default on debt owed to the FED. Then revoke income tax on indviduals and leave taxes on corporations. We need infrastructure and other minimal government regulation (I prefer my drinking water to be arsenic free but I'm a crazed greenie that way I guess by ZH standards).
We need less wasteful government, less graft (FED/IRS) and less career politicians, not NO government. My preference is to maximize local government and minimize Federal Government.
Yeah it is, because what you say is a made up, cut your cock off, idiocy.
You Glass-Steagall the fraud, then you don't have the debt to pay back. Well most of it. Then with the rest you bankruptcy court. Wow 15 trillion knocked down to 5 or 3 or 6...either way it ain't 15. Then you make the deal with the chinese and get their holdings out of the way for...treasuries for raw materials deal (all put forward before so look it up).
'live within it's means' is an entirely made up concept. What are the means? What is that cutoff point? It's entirely made up and arbitrary, thus the cut off point we 'live within' will arbitrarily be constrained....based on dogmatic bullshit.
Your 'crazy' solution is not a solution, it's another MONETARIST tactic. You know monetarism, the anti-american viewpoint. Keynesian, Austrian, all monetary schools of thought are FOREIGN, anti-american, BULLSHIT.
So yeah, quit the crazy talk, and start thinking of real solutions.
It's fraud....so CANCEL the fraud.
It's they physical economy that is crashing...so get it moving with a science driver program. We need energy, we need water, we need infrastructure (real like mag lev, waterways)....
None of what you propose does anything to change the rot of the system, it only constrains people, gives tax breaks to people that don't need it BEFORE seeing what can actually needs to be cut or raised based on reality(which is idiocy), assumes we need to pay off fraud, and that some magical 'means limit' exists. Monetarism, it makes people sound like Hannibal. We need to cancel the fraud, and change the system. The system we run is anti-american, time to get back to an American System. No Austrian or Keynesian anti-americans monetarist dogmatic fucktards are patriotic enough to engage in reality. It's all got to be dogmatic sophistry filled talking points by banksters, FOR banksters.
Banksters love Austrian ideology, they also love Keynesian ideology. Just if we switch to another fucktard monetary way, many of the banksters won't survive, but those that do will LOVE austrian ideology. Because it's another rig job.
Sorry I don't want another rig job based on bullshit.
Glass-Steagall
American Credit System
NOT MONETARY BULLSHIT WITH THEIR BULLSHIT IDEAS BASED ON BULLSHIT
Hoof,
Yes that would solve tons of issues, but it's logical, and nada that is in the 10sq miles of shit is.
The reason it will NEVER fly, is it would do away with an IRS so bloated w/paperwork, and rules and regs(not to mention jobs), that the PTB could never give that power away.
WHere we have MAJOR problems is all govt agencies, are at the whim, and will of the party in power.
IF we could just get them to follow their IN PRINT guidelines, and the law, same for all.............we would have a shot.
But, to get funded you have to eat the meat.
"WHere we have MAJOR problems is all govt agencies, are at the whim, and will of the party in power. IF we could just get them to follow their IN PRINT guidelines, and the law, same for all.............we would have a shot.!
Or, we could just remove their power to act. Just sayin'.
Exactly! The Welfare Class benefits from taxpayers. Why shouldn't they pay at least some nominal amount to have skin in the game? I guess those votes won't stay bought if we all paid a fair share.
Ummm........but it is what the elite and their minions (politicians) do to keep the masses disorganized and desperate.
Pitting one group of americans against the other is the ONLY political formula this country has had for decades for EITHER wing of the 1 party system.
Exactly. It's not leadership, it's stewardship, and most of America is riding in steerage.
can we create a pirate party? I think the German's have it right.
Will they accept po people?
Canada has one and their platform is not half bad.
http://www.pirateparty.ca/
yarrrrr!
CD, I love you, the way you think.
Sucking up does not win points; unless it actually does ...
"This administration’s insistence on raising taxes on job creators people who create jobs in China and suck off the taxpayer teat in America while complaining about "entitlements" and its reluctance to take the steps necessary...." There, fixed it.
I'm in the midst of turning a young ladie friend to the proper "Ron Paul" channel and now that she is off Romney (Thankyou Pr. Carter).
To share a bit:
Well, US Navy keeps sea lines open in the Gulf and Pacific -- a free benefit for the global economy. Paid by the US taxpayers. In good old times, the city citizens used to hire a sheriff and paid him to keep things in order, but now this benefit many countries economies enjoy comes as a free gift from Uncle Sam. Pacific trade can quickly come to the halt if US Navy goes away and China, Japan and Vietnam start fighting for island and other good things over there. Gulf oil -- the same.
Sadly, you do not address the mollificatioon of the "poor"(those with the cell phones, tats, etc) whose electoral pasivity is bought and paid for by using other's money. Honorable politicians paid for their votes out of their own pockets enforcing an economy of spending. Using others cash means never having to say you're responsible.
It seems to me that the out of power party always talks the talk, but they never walk the walk when they get into office.
Throw all the bums out.
Yeah, I would forget about that "Contract with America" from a congress a few decades back, it didn't really happen, did it?
Bhoaner is just popping off half-cocked. His response is the same copy-and-paste boilerplate screed that he always uses.
It also seems to me that Obamatron's notions of raising taxes BEFORE even looking into reining in the Decepticrats' sacrosanct Govt entitlement programs is cut'n'paste as well!
They're all fuckers and we're all fucked.
Pitting one economic group against another is only a construct of the Republican party in this instance. It shouldn't matter how you earn your money, you should pay the same rate. Why are we subsidizing the casino that is Wall Street on the backs of people who produce tangible goods and services that don't end up requiring a bailout at an ever increasing frequency?
LMAO oh sure 'Only replucrats do it'...another political rube.
I said no such thing.
You Sir/Madam, are a fucking clueless tool.
dbach says on: Mon, 09/19/2011 - 12:14
Pitting one economic group against another is only a construct of the Republican party in this instance.
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Is this "Opposite Day" or something?
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So when does the final curtain come down? Are we at intermission yet?
blah blah bitchez....
The president is a douche nozzle.
Have fun america...you bought it, now you ride it.
Boner sucks other boners. Not sure when he has time to speak, with so much meat in his mouth.
And all future "responses" can be summed up as follows:
"Blah blah blah. Blah, blah blah. Blah blah blah bluh-blah! BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!"
-Politicians name here
Economic growth is the problem, not the solution. And the way to deal with unemployment is to reduce the work week, not grasp at some futile attempt to make the economy bigger. This is nothing but an ill-fated ponzi scheme that cannot possibly succeed. Wake up, economists, get with the program.
Wow, that is FUNNY.
Germany did the same thing after WWI when they decided that Keynes was a fiscal god.
Didn't work for them, but somehow it will for us.
FAIR trade, not FREE trade, would fix part of the job issue.
The government getting the hell out of our lives would fix another.
Eliminating free stuff for all would solve the rest.
Reducing the work week wouldn't solve ANYTHING.
Except fewer private jobs as thousands of businessmen give the hell up and go on the government tit.
Not at all true. You are telling me that 50 years (that is the last time the work week was reduced) of technological automation has done NOTHING to improve the efficiency with which labour "produces" things? That's what you are saying. BTW, labour produces absolutely nothing; labour takes and transforms.
Our wealth is being stolen by the bond parasites. Our government is enslaved by them, as we all are, to the same central bank that is the machine of oppression the bond parasites use to effect their control.
Blaming the government as the scapegoat is the easy, stupid way out. Our governments (especially in the US) are puppets. They have no more say over anythign than voters in the farcical 2 party dictatorship AMerians like to call "democracy".
Perpetual economic growth is nothing more than a perpetual motion machine. These were disproven centuries ago. I invite economists to drag their profession into at least the 19th century. Animals that have tape worms need to eat more and more food because they ar feeding someone else besides themselves. That is why we must work more and more to get by.
Love it or hate it, at least the republican party has backbone and stands for something. What do the democrats stand for? NAFTA? Organised Labour?
LOL! You forgot your < sarc > flags. Yeah, Bush Junior really had a backbone when Paulson came into his office demanded a fucking bailout (TARP and TALF) for the financial fuckwads who caused and then profitted from the collapse.
Crash the fucking system already. Only then will compensation find its way back to people who are actually worth a shit.
Try harder troll.
Bogan, just because you don't have a future doesn't mean the sky is going to fall. The people in Detroit might be sad at their children’s destitution, but so are the slum dwellers in Mumbai. You have an alternative to neoliberalism i'm all ears? I love it how Americans think because all the sudden they are going on the reservation that somehow pinot noir is going to stop flowing in London and Zurich.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIIpdIBNFDk&NR=1
And your point is? You reflect my thoughts exactly. A system collapse will NOT stop people from drinking wine or getting by just fine, BUT those that do will actually have to provide a service of REAL VALUE.
However, you are still ignoring the energy input to maintain any system. The world's economy still relies on cheap energy input for growth. Infinite cheap energy and infinite growth are impossible and if you think there won't be a lot less pinot noir being drunk in the future, then you are truly are a moron. Folks in my neck of the woods are already firing up stills (for both fuel and personal consumption) and reviving grandpa's recipes for fermentation of everything. Technically even your "neoliberalistic" countries are doing the same thing . Look up the "ABE process" for producing acetone, butanol, and ethanol from all kinds of waste. Many companies in London are doing precisely what toothless hicks in the mountains all around the world have been doing for hundreds of years. And those "pinot noir" sipping fucks think they are so smart.
You are absolutely correct. Infinite cheap energy and infinite growth are impossible. There is a massive famine underway in East Africa right now people are dying and it isn't affecting you. Same way the tent cities and hunger in America won't affect billionaires materially or islanders in the Solomon islands. What's your point? You are either a master or a slave, how hard is that to understand? Why don't you be proactive and do something if you are so mad at your predicament.
Unless you are in the top .1%, you are a slave.
Being in control of the means of production has it's perks...
...like gallows with silk nooses?
We are doing just fine, never been busier. My point is that your neoliberals just need to be honest about being, as you put it, a master or a slave. Your initial comment was on how great the GOP was, that is a lie. Don't lie and expect no consequences. Likewise, don't steal and expect not to be shot at or killed.
I'm glad you are doing well, but talking with you is like speaking to a child.
Only children keep avoiding the consequences of their choices. Speaking of which do you still believe your original statement is true?
here is it;
"at least the republican party has backbone and stands for something".
Yea I do. They don't like taxes, and do what they can to cut them. What do the democrats do? Threaten to end funding to the troops and fold like a bitch?
All is well now in Detroit, lol. The Tigers won the division, and the Lions are 2-0!! Woo hoo!!
And soon it will be Wing's season! Double woo hoo!!!
"just because you don't have a future doesn't mean the sky is going to fall."
The sky isn't going to fall because it already fell in the last quarter of 2008.
All the King's horses and all the King's men etc. etc.
They're all the same, and they all have the same MO - 'talk the talk to the party faithful while funnelling money into Wall Street's pockets.'
demokratik soviet= blacks, jews, homos, illegals, muslims, communists, infanticide fans.
An amalgam of nation wrecking misfits bound together by nothing more than malevolent envy and hatred of Natural Law.
Got it?
Wait, you forgot public unions, Mormons, the Amish, any non-US citizen wanting to be or might be POTUS, coupon clippers, anyone that owns AAPL stock, rutabaga gardeners, OS/2 fans and all those that "Liked" Al Gore's Facebook page.
Are you going to deny that the demokratik soviet is comprised entirely of blacks, jews, homos, illegals, communists, muslims and abortion fans? Or is it that not every demokrat is a black, a jew, a homo, an illegal, a muslim, a communist and/or an abortion fan, but every black, jew, homo, illegal, muslim, communist and abortion fan is a demokrat?
"We must realize that our party's most powerful weapon is racial tensions. By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavor to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negroes to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions and in the world of sports and entertainment. With this prestige, the Negro will be able to intermarry with the whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause."
Israel Cohen, A Racial Program for he Twentieth Century, 1912. Also in the Congressional Record, Vol. 103, p. 8559, June 7, 1957
yep and so we look at just who it is that finances and promotes organizations such as the naacp and core etc..........hmmm? diversity is good in only someone's mind because it works best for that someone. now who is that someone? it is a good thing in someone's mind to create racial disharmony and racial discord to distract the sheep and have them fight each other instead of focusing on the one and true enemy.....
uncle miltie discusses the obvious...
http://www.youtube.com/user/zionget#p/u/19/QiwRZZqK3Ns
Hey Mr Outlaw
Thanks for reminding me of something I heard some time ago. It went something like.......
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but all stupid people are conservative" Is that what you are trying to say?
Bill
You're enumerating the symptoms, not the problems.
These must be the Republicans you're referring to:
Bread and circuses. Seems like Boner is much better at sticking to the Banker's script. Ron Paul 2012.
boehner is a sell out and a traitor and always has been. he is bought and sold and does what he is told like the good little slave he is. i am sick of them. imho,
Boner says??
Pitting one group against another is not what?? it is ALL the Leadership of the United States does!
Billion Dollar Lobby v. Po Sheepish Consumers of the World
All Day! Every Day!!
Lets get this Austerity up and going already!! if we are going to have any real change we need the Masses Hungry (Pun Intended) for it! LOL!!
Exactly, 'pit one group against another class warfare or race warfare' is ALL demicans and republicrats have been doing for decades, while behind the scenes robbing everyone blind.
What will it take for people to see the obvious? Worst case scenario I guess. In the meantime, american sheeple just LOVE being told who to be mad at as the reason for their shitty empty slave lives by the politicians who then dangle the 'But we'll get back at them for you' carrot out in front of their faces.
Don't forget gender warfare. Kinda brings it right into your house.
Yes any type of difference in people imaginable, the repubicrat/demican govt has a war designed for it!
hey dog. its monday . who is playing tonight on monday night football?
Rams and Giants. It's a joke.
In measure of good faith, Obama and Boehner should volunteer their lungs to an MRI machine. No doubt they'd be as black as their collective soul.
They have souls?
The world would be infinitely happier and more free if london and its vassalage on the potomac were leveled by nuclear bombs.
"Our" government has become a sworn enemy within representing international interests at the expense of the citizens of America.
Europe is in complete lockdown. The serfs are slaves with NO participation in their economic or political affairs. We are at an inflection point.
"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." - Lord Acton
And so the political theater continues with everyone pointing fingers and blaming the other person for all the troubles and ills that we suffer. There must be a lack of mirrors in Washington because the real cause is the people up there pointing fingers.
Funny, I'd bet that we could find enough ZH'ers to represent all 50 states in both houses of Congress. Give us a week and we could not only cut the deficit, but probably provide a surplus to boot. Of course there would be a lot of Government workers looking for jobs after that week was over and a lot of folks on the dole who would be having to take that minimum wage job because the benis from Uncle Sam would be over and done with.
So is this supposed to be some kind of staged fight between the apparently wealthy "job creators" and the apparently unemployed "job doers"? Are we supposed to pick sides or place bets? Is this part of the bread thing or the circus thing?
Right, now is the time the 2 headed 1 party WWF show picks a fight between 'the rich' and 'the poor'...which is really a joke these days as all 'millionaires' I know are feeling the pinch big time. This is just cheap class warfare BS and I hope americans see thru it and reject the billionaires who are trying to make the public mad at millionaires. Something tells me its not working anymore, I even see kids today with 'End The FED' t shirts.
Don't get mad at the politicos. They're just looking to see if anything from a very successful 1970s playbook will work now.
Well it wont, today we're nothing like the 70's after a 30 year concerted plan to sell off all american manufacturing and jobs overseas under the guise of 'free trade' BS.
Not even inflation with fixed tax brackets?
There may be something in Rasputin's playbook. You should check it out.