NSA Whistleblower Speaks Live: "The Government Is Lying To You"

Tyler Durden's picture

Just a month ago we raised more than a proverbial eyebrow when we noted the creation of the NSA's Utah Data Center (codename Stellar Wind) and William Binney's formidable statement that "we are this far from a turnkey totalitarian state". Democracy Now has the former National Security Agency technical director whistleblower's first TV interview in which he discusses the NSA's massive power to spy on Americans and why the FBI raided his home. Since retiring from the NSA in 2001, he has warned that the NSA’s data-mining program has become so vast that it could "create an Orwellian state." Today marks the first time Binney has spoken on national TV about NSA surveillance. Starting with his pre-9-11 identification of the world-wide-web as a voluminous problem since the NSA was 'falling behind the rate-of-change', his success in creating a system (codenamed Thin-Thread) for 'grabbing' all the data and the critical 'lawful' anonymization of that data (according to mandate at the time) which as soon as 9-11 occurred went out of the window as all domestic and foreign communications was now stored (starting with AT&T's forking over their data). This direct violation of the constitutional rights of everybody in the country was why Binney decided he could not stay (leaving one month after 9-11) along with the violation of almost every privacy and intelligence act as near-bottomless databases store all forms of communication collected by the agency, including private emails, cell phone calls, Google searches and other personal data.

There was a time when Americans still cared about matters such as personal privacy. Luckily, they now have iGadgets to keep them distracted as they hand over their last pieces of individuality to the Tzar of conformity.


Part 1 - Exclusive: National Security Agency Whistleblower William Binney on Growing State Surveillance

William Binney's shocking facts start at around 15:00...



Part 2 - Detained in the U.S.: Filmmaker Laura Poitras Held, Questioned Some 40 Times at U.S. Airports

The Academy Award-nominated filmmaker Laura Poitras discusses how she has been repeatedly detained and questioned by federal agents whenever she enters the United States. Poitras said the interrogations began after she began working on her documentary, "My Country, My Country," about post-invasion Iraq. Her most recent film, "The Oath," was about Yemen and Guantánamo and follows the lives of two past associates of Osama bin Laden. She estimates she has been detained approximately 40 times and has had her laptop, cell phone and personal belongings repeatedly searched.




Part 3 - "We Don’t Live in a Free Country": Jacob Appelbaum on Being Target of Widespread Gov’t Surveillance

We speak with Jacob Appelbaum, a computer researcher who has faced a stream of interrogations and electronic surveillance since he volunteered with the whistleblowing website, WikiLeaks. He describes being detained more than a dozen times at the airport and interrogated by federal agents who asked about his political views and confiscated his cell phone and laptop. When asked why he cannot talk about what happened after he was questioned, Appelbaum says, "Because we don’t live in a free country. And if I did, I guess I could tell you about it." A federal judge ordered Twitter to hand over information about Appelbaum’s account. Meanwhile, he continues to work on the Tor Project, an anonymity network that ensures every person has the right to browse the internet without restriction and the right to speak freely.




Part 4 - Whistleblower: The NSA is Lying–U.S. Government Has Copies of Most of Your Emails

National Security Agency whistleblower

William Binney reveals he believes domestic surveillance has become more expansive under President Obama than President George W. Bush. He estimates the NSA has assembled 20 trillion "transactions" — phone calls, emails and other forms of data — from Americans. This likely includes copies of almost all of the emails sent and received from most people living in the United States. Binney talks about Section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act and challenges NSA Director Keith Alexander’s assertion that the NSA is not intercepting information about U.S. Citizens.



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CH1's picture

PGP rocks, and every adult should be using it.

Nonetheless, they know who talks to whom, how often, how many bits are exchanged, and so on.

You can beat that, but it takes effort and/or you must pay.

JohnG's picture

Brute force will eventually work.  Problem is, the encryption key could be 1000 characters long.  That might take at least centuries to hit the key, perhaps millenia.

So, it comes down to money.  How much is an entity (probably a country) willing to spend to build a fast enough machine(s) to brute force atttack with,  and get that down to a reasonable timeframe before the information is obsolete?  It might take a lot.



There are secure communication protocols that work.  As the above poster wrote, "It takes effort and/or money.


aphlaque_duck's picture

No, the number are ridiculous. Brute-force decryption of just one day's worth of internet traffic would use enough CPU time to consume all the remaining energy output of the sun.

The Alarmist's picture

The mere act of sending encrypted data flags you as one who has something to hide, and in most cases the crack of your code will be a piece of cake, and when they prosecute ... and they will ... the fact that you encrypted will give them probable cause to indict, and the fact that you encrypted will probably be used for at least one count of wire fraud. Since the average user will obtain their encryption software from vendors like Symantec, you can be assured that cracking the vast majority of encrypted data will not be very taxing, so it will not overwhelm TPTB.

Reptil's picture

Good point. Remaining invisible is the best defence.

So instead Anonymous should encourage EVERYONE to encrypt their emails, instead of asking the Facebook users to paint their avatar green as a first stage to counter the war on drugs.

CH1's picture

The mere act of sending encrypted data flags you as one who has something to hide

We call that FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt, and it is false.

All the big corps use encrypted connections every day. There are millions of them.

The Alarmist's picture

LPI ... Low Probability of Intercept ... is your best friend, pal.

Yep, the big corps all use encryption, but the keys to that have already been given to TPTB.

It's when lone-wolf wing nuts like those of us on ZH start encrypting things in otherwise relatively public circuits that ears perk up.

krispkritter's picture

I think you're correct. The only depressing part is they have a seemingly endless supply of 'taxpayer's dollars' to continue this farce, ad infinitum. OK, close. Should the Failat, er, fiat, crumble, it becomes much harder to do. But it's not like they won't spend your last damn dollar attempting it. I think just the intention of trying it speaks volumes about where we as a country are headed. 

ebworthen's picture

Utopian scheme dreamed up by conformist weiners.

"If we can just monitor EVERYTHING we'll be seure!"

No, you won't.

Besides, what is the point of being "secure" yet surrendering your liberty, rights, and money?

CH1's picture

"If we can just monitor EVERYTHING we'll be seure!"

Fully agreed that this is BS, but it isn't about security, it's about intimidation and control.

The Alarmist's picture

The delicious irony is that as they gather more data, they appear to be growing even more insecure. That'll always bring a smile to my face as I continue to resist in the Gulag.

Reptil's picture

Perhaps they're finding that the sheeple aren't that sheepish.

nmewn's picture

Fucking cocksuckers...and you can quote me on that NSA.

krispkritter's picture

NSA=No Secrets Anymore


Numbers of Serious Assholes


He made me say it! He made me!....

nmewn's picture

Everything I say is a lie and thats the truth ;-)


geekgrrl's picture

Hey hey hey, nothing wrong with cocksuckers. ;-)

These voyeurs are more like peeping tom perverts standing outside your window masturbating.

nmewn's picture

Why do I feel like I've just been violated?...lol.

Good points all...a toast of Ron Zacapa Centenario on the rocks to you ;-)

krispkritter's picture

Oh God that makes me miss Costa Rica.  First time I came back from there I had close to a dozen bottles of rum and liquor in a duffle bag( I think the 'limit' was 5).  I walked through Customs and the bag CLANKED with every step because some bottles(which were duct taped in freezer bags and towels) came 'unglued'.  The Customs guy waived me through and I swear he was smiling. The CR family behind me probably got cavity searched because they never made it to the concourse.  I was in heaven for 6 months....(PS. stick that in your Supercomputer and anal-yze it ya pricks)...next time I need a 40' shipping container for luggage...

nmewn's picture

lol...sounds like you got through on the right guy...dis stuff is smooove. Never been to CR but I'm lookin in that direction. Thinkin about Panama when I retire, they're not all freaked out about personal arms as much as the others.

Oh crap, I forgot to say bio-weapon as first words to troll the NSA ;-)

krispkritter's picture

Look up www.spiritair.com and Quepos(http://www.condotel-lascascadas.com/) The location is awesome, hosts are great, and the CR experience is still exquisite...I think this vid says it all about the last CR trip:


Teamtc321's picture

Lol, I am not sticking up for the NSA serf's but I bet they are laughing there asses off right now. If you are NSA serf's, shut the fuck up!! This is our party lol.  

The Alarmist's picture

Like a good little slave, I actually declared one litre of Kahlua as I drove back from Mexico, and the mother f*ckers took my car apart looking for drugs.

lakecity55's picture

Ah, now I know where the gooey stuff leaking from the spare usb port is coming from.

NSA pricks.

Hey, at least kiss me if yer gonna fuck me!

Dr. Engali's picture

Are you speaking from experience ?

geekgrrl's picture

I only comment on things I know. I leave things like Tier 1 capital requirements to TD. :-)

Yen Cross's picture

You are a hoot! Tier 1 capital?  Visit this site! http://www.newyorkfed.org/index.html

 If you need a short cut, just let me know. I'm watching South Park reruns<>

dumpster's picture

topical e-mail from dumpster

4kktliy;l ...ert56..yt...sum gum  .. 35thbrutusllehh..

that will gum up some of the clatter

SheepDog-One's picture

The govt lies and spies and is a Stasi Orwellian nightmare? Well frankly, I'm SHOCKED!

lakecity55's picture

Yes, "Gambling at Rick's? I'm Shocked! Shocked, I say!"

reTARD's picture


Yen Cross's picture

 The biggest problem with organizations like the NSA is redundancy. Information is only as good as it's source, and has a very short half life. Bottomless " MINORITY REPORTS" are useless!


SlorgGamma's picture

We've seen this movie before: the death-throes of that other Cold War empire, the USSR.

Obama ran as America's Gorbachev, but has delivered nothing but Yeltsin.

Widowmaker's picture

Fuck the NSA.

Come get me you spineless fucks.

Widowmaker's picture

I've got all the time in the world to waste, and all the digital diarrhea those ass chuggers can swallow.

Fuck Congress Inc that made the [anything but] "Patriot" Bullshit.


slewie the-pi-rat's picture

now we'll turn it up a notch


man I had to take that video down (CIA?? water boarding video) way too disturbing

but if you still want to see it, it's at this link



nmewn's picture

He's a persistent little troll ain't he?...and we missed his one week birthday to boot.

No wonder he's mad ;-)

The Alarmist's picture

It's more fun to give than to get.

pops's picture

Let's overload their asses.  Email everyone about anything all the time.  Choke them.  I don't care how big their "hard drive" is, if enough people just engage in endless, meaningless emailing, we can fill it with trash and eat popcorn while they sift thru it all.  Use words like "bomb" and "death to America" a lot and in no particular context...just load the dam thing to the gills with worthless crap.




Atomizer's picture

Hello fellow NSA fucksticks. If you're so cutting edge in the information collection services, tell us where the MF GLOBAL money went.

Yen Cross's picture

I have to replace my keypad. I just barfed up [ Jon Corzines' remains]!  You made my day!


Teamtc321's picture

Agreed!! NSA fuckstick's could help bummer team to fake a better birth cert also. Atleast let his attorney's have some meat in there defense. 

Log this NSA..

Jon Corzine Still Bundling for Obama

Corzine, according to the Obama campaign, has once again helped raise more than $500,000. 

(He was likewise named a bundler in January, when the Obama campaign last released the names of their money men.)


Listen up NSA, log this one as well.

Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate,Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.



WillyGroper's picture

To help fund the site in Utah. That's why Corzine will take Timmay's place if BO gets re-elected. 

WTFx10's picture

Into the owners of the countrys pockets silly.

walküre's picture

"The government is lying to you"

So many lies so little time.. to list them all here. Where do we begin?

I'm contemplating to join the Amish. Love the decency, honesty and simple & traditional lifestyle. Half way there anyway but still riding a tractor on Diesel.

FYI. Buy Silver. Every chance you get. Every opportunity that presents itself to give a present. Forget toys, spa vouchers, gift cards.

Big Corked Boots's picture

Just don't drink unpasturized milk. They're already beating on the Amish for that.